I wouldn't put anything past TTUN fans. They have a weird obsession with OSU.
Three posts below this one you can find a post about what their WR coach recently tweeted.
We have a mutually weird obsession with each other.
As opposed to OSU fans who have no obsession with Mich.
Correct. Our obsession with TTUN is natural and understandable......TTUN fans' obsession with us is strange and represents all that is wrong in this world.
Southern collusion! Southern collusion!
Seriously though? Yes, I think this absolutely happens. Just another reason to burn Twitter to the ground.
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Sooner or later Twitter will be gone for the greater good. Name one single good thing that has come from twitter. I'll give you a minute, I could list off about 2000 bad things that have happened though.
Social media was a net positive from like 2005-2009, and has been nothing but bad for the world ever since.
1) Improved customer service experiences with companies who are now publicly called out on a daily basis so they have to get better.
2) Easy way to get curated lists of specific pieces of news/content you want on one feed that isn't another email filling your inbox.
3) The entertainment of watching keyboard warriors get called out for BS they post when they know nothing.
4) The invention of hashtags to sort content for any number of reasons (fundraisers, event updates, emergency situations, etc).
To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.
1) Airing your frustrations with a company publicly versus handling it in a professional manner (maybe make a phone call) is only pushing our society further out of touch with reality. Every company that has ever wronged me has known about it and the issue has been resolved because I picked up the phone like an adult.
2) It's called websites...go to the websites you prefer to get your news from, easy fix.
3) The keyboard warriors were given a platform BECAUSE of things like Twitter...this is a negative.
4) The hashtags are juvenile. Maybe they work in very isolated cases as you mentioned, but all in all saying things like #mypeepsbettathanyopeeps is juvenile.
This will probably end up an "agree to disagree" situation. I work in social media so I tend to see the positives pretty often, but there are SO many negatives to social media in general. That's a fact. But...
1) I've spent countless hours on hold waiting for customer service for companies in the past. Being able to tweet at a company (which you can also do privately) and get a response much more quickly is a huge plus. There's nothing immature about telling a company on Twitter that you have a problem. How you tell them is another thing entirely.
2) Yes, but if I have a choice of going to 20 different websites and having to find the content I want on each as opposed to having a curated list that's laid out already...why would I ever choose the website option? It's a time saver and allows me to cut through all of the content I don't want to read immediately.
3) I see, and agree with, your point. But I'm choosing the silver lining here.
4) I was speaking towards the functionality of hashtags, not how some people use them. Just like the first point, how one uses them can be juvenile but that doesn't mean their existence is. You asked for positives and the "invention" of how hashtags can be used now is a positive.
I think you are right, and I plead ignorance on the viewpoint you have. I have never worked in social media so therefore my opinions are based off of the fallout that has come from so many different examples of social media taking someones life in a negative direction. We are looking at this from two totally different viewpoints, knowing that you work in social media would obviously have you seeing benefits that the public wouldn't. Either way, don't tweet at recruits haha.
Yeah, Millhouse is 100% right on Number 4.
The initial purpose of hashtags was for the convenient and interactive way of tagging posts that relate to certain topics, events, or movements. There was a lost child in my Chicago neighborhood that was found via the extensive use of a hashtag.
Now, it's #somehowbecomethiswayofrantingwithoutusinganypunctuation
Interesting, I never had Twitter so I wasn't privy to the infancy of the hashtags, only what has become of the evolution of hashtags which are absolutely insane as you said.
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
Did the hashtag physically walk around the neighborhood and find the kid? Too many people overinflated the medium-twitter, with the desired outcome/message-coordinating a search for a kid, thinking you are swag, whatever............
Yeah. The hashtag drove around the neighborhood in a vehicle and found the kid. Then returned to kid safely to his parents.
In 140 characters or less.
I agree with it having some positives. For background, I have no FaceBook, Instagram, Snapchat, or any other social media, but I do use Twitter for educational discussions (this is why hashtags are good). It is a great way to get information/ideas from others when they have live #edchats. As far as sending information, I have retweeted about a dozen times total since 2009 so I really don’t use it to express any ideas or my opinion, but it can have its value.
2) One doesn't need Twitter for this. There are quite a few options for this, as I'm sure you know. Besides, Google knows where your interests lie. It's pretty creepy.
My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)
Google knows where your interests lie
Usually before you do...
Boom, boom, boom, and boom. Great post-and spot on, on all points. At the end of the day, customer service means making a living, breathing, flesh and blood individual satisfied with their treatment and experience-and sometimes algorithms just can't do that.
It's of my opinion that if you can't find the positives in social media, it's likely you aren't using it properly. Yes, Twitter will be gone someday, but only when it is replaced by a more popular product (Myspace -> Facebook -> Twitter/Instagram). There is far too big of an audience and far too large of an addiction to information (good and bad information, unfortunately) for social media to ever go away entirely.
There are definitely negatives to twitter and social media, but it provides an extremely valuable (and necessary, imo) service to society whether you like the tool or not.
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Name one single good thing that has come from twitter.
another day volunteering at the betsy ross museum. everyone keeps asking me if they can fuck the flag. buddy, they wont even let me fuck it
— wint (@dril) February 20, 2012
When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.
I get your sly dig.
i actually have 13 stars interspersed with the double Celtic spiral tattoo’d on my arm.
not because I support slavery. Because my ancestor got deported from the UK for basically adhering to an obscure religion. - you know the one, the guy on the oats.
most of the people on that ship died in passage. Pissed them off he did.
one generation later - beat them for independence.
i also have the symbols bordered by pikes. The weapon of the working
Spot on response
The very moment that social media decided to push a particular political agenda AND silence those who have views different it was dead to me. Facebook, Twitter, Google Reddit etc should have their exemption stripped because they ARE acting as a publisher
You WIN with people.
I guess nothing could stop people from doing that, but as dumb as fans are for tweeting at 'croots, if your decision on where to go to college is in any way impacted by what a bunch of strangers say online you might not be too bright yourself.
I see what your saying, but at the same time Mark Pantoni has said that this sort of fan behavior has a legitimate negative effect on recruiting.
"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."
Oh I have no doubt it makes the experience less enjoyable for the kids, who would probably rather be mostly left alone. But I just don't think "I'm going to PSU instead of OSU because GoBucks3252352 told me I was gay" really happens very much.
Given that your username is actually bitching about a media drama queen, it would seem to me that these types of drama-whore shenanigans are right up your alley-you seem to put some stock into it. We have a 1st Amendment-it applies equally to Lonzo Ball, ESPN, and Hobby Lobby.
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A long time ago (2006) I imagined a style of Martial Arts where you make your opponent laugh.
The concept was a REAL hard core martial art, though.
i think I dubbed it Gu Fi Do.
God bless Jackie Chan’s early movies!
That must obviously be some other Zimmy.
)” as I was a bit sloshed from having just watched (& celebrated) the OSU Michigan game (I was born in Ohio).”
The First Amendment does apply equally to those "individuals", but probably not how you think it does.
make up fake social media accounts
Aren't all social media accounts fake to an extent?
With how many people there are on social media that think they are "sneaky" this absolutely does happen. Hopefully most recruits we are targeting don't buy in to this either way and know how to spot fake people on the internet. I'm sure this is also something they learn about when OSU teaches brand management for the players.
I never underestimate the idiocy of people on the interwebz. Yes, I'm sure people would set up fake accounts to catfish/annoy./scam/whatever recruits.
I have my fair share of experience with meme accounts and being a twitter/social media troll. Although I never would tweet at recruits, especially some of the things I hear and see.
Every once in a while though an overzealous fan deserves to have a little bit of ironic reality pushed in their face to combat all the unhinged garbage.
We win games and get guys to the NFL no player is going to care what some stupid idiot on Twitter says. It's not like those people are part of the program itself. On the rare occasions I've seen OSU players in person they tend to get mobbed by fans who love them and want to wish them well. But I agree, the one thing I hate about Twitter is the anonymity of it. Just because there's a Twitter profile with a photo doesnt mean that's who is really speaking.
"I find your lack of kalua disturbing" - Darth Lebowski
Do you think fans ever make up fake social media accounts, pretending to be fans for other schools, and intentionally tweet cringey things at recruits just to scare them away?
Back when Sports Illustrated was actually a magazine, they had a feature called "This Week's Sign That The Apocalypse Is Upon Us". I think this is absolutely happening and I think it absolutely means that the end is near.
That was my favorite section.
I also liked the Dum Quote of the Weak. My favorite was when someone asked a Clemson defensive player if fatigue was a factor in a game, and his response was, "Who?".
This Week's Sign That The Apocalypse Is Upon Us
That was always one of my favorite features. It was ahead of its time.
Well, prognostications of the apocalypse frequently are.
Yea but eventually they're going to be exactly right.
Briefly, but still.
Just ask the Mayans...
In regards to that question above I am as sure of that as I am that OSU and scUM fans are guilty of sending hate mail to players (see Ryan Hamby and Tyler Durbin and in scUM's case John O'Korn).
Exhibit A (not directed at anyone here, just for general reference):
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
11w should run that every offseason as a refresher. Besides, it's Ramzy.
Oh, I guarantee this has already occurred and likely still does.
Football is, after all, a wonderful way to get rid of your aggressions without going to jail for it. - Woody Hayes
Social media is not inherently bad. It is a tool, and like all tools, the problem is not with the tool, it is with some of the tools who use it.
Nail, meet Earle. He's the one who just hit you on the head.
Society in general, and social media in particular needs to figure out better ways of putting boots up said tools asses.
A false flag op? I'm sure that has happened. Think about the money involved and the effect that can have on ethics. Think about how it wouldn't even take any money for some people to be total shits.
There are idiot fans in every fanbase. For the life of me, I don't know why any fan EVER, under any circumstance, contacts an athlete or a recruit that they don't know personally. I don't have a twitter account and have no desire to ever have a twitter account. I don't care whether you use snapchat, instagram, twitter, facebook, email, or some other social media of the day, it is just unacceptable, imhe. IIRC, some of your proprietors have put up articles about this in the past which were pretty good and to the point.
Now, you never know what goes through the mind of an athlete. But I have to believe that they understand what a loser a fan is who spends time actually figuring out how to contact them, and actually does it. And it would really be a totally loser fan who would contact a potential recruit, posing as a fan of another team. People need to get a life. Smh.
As regards Michigan fans, there are certainly some idiots in the fanbase. And I wouldn't put it past some of them to do something like this. But then, you've got Buckeye Guy and Big Nut, so you know something about over the top fans.
Here's a piece a crazy OSU fan wrote ripping your own kicker after the Clemson game a couple years back. This kind of fandom is unreal, and just wrong. A total embarassment.
So I guess setting up a fake Dabo account and tweeting recruits is not a good idea.
“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden
Looking at it from the other side, though, if something like that were to be discovered (that a school had more or less commissioned one of their fans to impersonate a psycho fan of a rival in order to sway recruits), the blowback would be massive.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
I guess I would need to see a "post" to understand what you are referring to. I follow A LOT of the tOSU recruits but don't really see anything that would be so egregious that it would make me raise my eyebrows. I see OTHER teams fans say some shit that is just horrible but none that would disguise as a Buckeye nut
"it matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul.
I know it’s not social media, but I’m honestly surprised fans from other teams haven’t set up players by wearing gear from the other school, paying the player, have some one else take photos/video, and then turn it into the NCAA. Creepy? Absolutely, but actually pretty simple scheme I wouldn’t put past the bagmen of the sec. I guess the only thing that would hinder this whole scenario would be the fact that it is so rampant down there and no one cares if it’s the sec.
My Bad didn't read all the responses but here is my 2 cents and not a stupid question. Coach's tell players and families to avoid these chat boards for the simple reason fans getting on here and busting a recruit and even a player on the team. Hamby was eaten alive on many boards back when he dropped the pass vs Texas some years ago and sometimes I think it bothered him for some time after that. I know I get on Victor here but I only tell the truth about what he has done in his time here and if I was the coach he flat out wouldn't play. For the other stuff fans are not going to bust a kid if we are recruiting him that would be stupid only another fan base would bust him to make us look bad. Our fan base would bust his chops if he went to another school all sour grapes though. Either way we should stay out of the mix and let the kid select the school that's right for him not for us. So many other things come into play that a kid is looking for besides football. CBus is a big place not everyone wants that and places like ND and PSU come into play then. Field of study playing time liking your team mates and staff so much more than just football so let them be and make their own bed.
I highly doubt kids decide to go or not go to a school because of fans tweeting at them.
Class of 2010.
Well Bama fan posioned/killed 100 yr oak trees at Toomer's corner just to spite Auburn fans after Tigers defeat Tide. SO, I would put nothing past fanatics, even Buckeyes. I've been around a few that was over the top wit hactions. My language at times has crossed the line as has my pivate actions (cursing and throwing hat at TV), stomping mad during Cooper years.
I've toned it down as I;ve gotten older (thanks Tress and Urb).
You win with people.