Hypothetical Recruiting Issue

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

I wouldn't put anything past TTUN fans. They have a weird obsession with OSU.

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BrutusB's picture

Three posts below this one you can find a post about what their WR coach recently tweeted.

We have a mutually weird obsession with each other. 

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lesajima's picture

As opposed to OSU fans who have no obsession with Mich.

Lesajima

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

Correct. Our obsession with TTUN is natural and understandable......TTUN fans' obsession with us is strange and represents all that is wrong in this world.

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

Southern collusion! Southern collusion!

Seriously though? Yes, I think this absolutely happens.  Just another reason to burn Twitter to the ground.

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

Sooner or later Twitter will be gone for the greater good.  Name one single good thing that has come from twitter.  I'll give you a minute, I could list off about 2000 bad things that have happened though.

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BrutusB's picture

Social media was a net positive from like 2005-2009, and has been nothing but bad for the world ever since.

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milhouse4588's picture

1) Improved customer service experiences with companies who are now publicly called out on a daily basis so they have to get better.

2) Easy way to get curated lists of specific pieces of news/content you want on one feed that isn't another email filling your inbox.

3) The entertainment of watching keyboard warriors get called out for BS they post when they know nothing.

4) The invention of hashtags to sort content for any number of reasons (fundraisers, event updates, emergency situations, etc).

To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

1)  Airing your frustrations with a company publicly versus handling it in a professional manner (maybe make a phone call) is only pushing our society further out of touch with reality.  Every company that has ever wronged me has known about it and the issue has been resolved because I picked up the phone like an adult.

2)  It's called websites...go to the websites you prefer to get your news from, easy fix.

3)  The keyboard warriors were given a platform BECAUSE of things like Twitter...this is a negative.

4)  The hashtags are juvenile.  Maybe they work in very isolated cases as you mentioned, but all in all saying things like #mypeepsbettathanyopeeps is juvenile.

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milhouse4588's picture

This will probably end up an "agree to disagree" situation. I work in social media so I tend to see the positives pretty often, but there are SO many negatives to social media in general. That's a fact. But...

1) I've spent countless hours on hold waiting for customer service for companies in the past. Being able to tweet at a company (which you can also do privately) and get a response much more quickly is a huge plus. There's nothing immature about telling a company on Twitter that you have a problem. How you tell them is another thing entirely.

2) Yes, but if I have a choice of going to 20 different websites and having to find the content I want on each as opposed to having a curated list that's laid out already...why would I ever choose the website option? It's a time saver and allows me to cut through all of the content I don't want to read immediately.

3) I see, and agree with, your point. But I'm choosing the silver lining here.

4) I was speaking towards the functionality of hashtags, not how some people use them. Just like the first point, how one uses them can be juvenile but that doesn't mean their existence is. You asked for positives and the "invention" of how hashtags can be used now is a positive.

To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

I think you are right, and I plead ignorance on the viewpoint you have.  I have never worked in social media so therefore my opinions are based off of the fallout that has come from so many different examples of social media taking someones life in a negative direction.  We are looking at this from two totally different viewpoints, knowing that you work in social media would obviously have you seeing benefits that the public wouldn't.  Either way, don't tweet at recruits haha.

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ChicagoBuckeye10's picture

Yeah, Millhouse is 100% right on Number 4.

The initial purpose of hashtags was for the convenient and interactive way of tagging posts that relate to certain topics, events, or movements.  There was a lost child in my Chicago neighborhood that was found via the extensive use of a hashtag.

Now, it's #somehowbecomethiswayofrantingwithoutusinganypunctuation

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

Interesting, I never had Twitter so I wasn't privy to the infancy of the hashtags, only what has become of the evolution of hashtags which are absolutely insane as you said.

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Sanantonefan's picture

#firetheoffseason

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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stxbuck's picture

Did the hashtag physically walk around the neighborhood and find the kid? Too many people overinflated the medium-twitter, with the desired outcome/message-coordinating a search for a kid, thinking you are swag, whatever............

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ChicagoBuckeye10's picture

Yeah. The hashtag drove around the neighborhood in a vehicle and found the kid. Then returned to kid safely to his parents.

In 140 characters or less.

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tunehtraef's picture

I agree with it having some positives. For background, I have no FaceBook, Instagram, Snapchat, or any other social media, but I do use Twitter for educational discussions (this is why hashtags are good). It is a great way to get information/ideas from others when they have live #edchats. As far as sending information, I have retweeted about a dozen times total since 2009 so I really don’t use it to express any ideas or my opinion, but it can have its value. 

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LeftCoastBuckeye's picture

2) One doesn't need Twitter for this. There are quite a few options for this, as I'm sure you know. Besides, Google knows where your interests lie. It's pretty creepy.

My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.   - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)

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BuckeyeInOrlando's picture

Google knows where your interests lie

Usually before you do...

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stxbuck's picture

Boom, boom, boom,  and boom. Great post-and spot on, on all points. At the end of the day, customer service means making a living, breathing, flesh and blood individual satisfied with their treatment and experience-and sometimes algorithms just can't do that.

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Triv's picture

It's of my opinion that if you can't find the positives in social media, it's likely you aren't using it properly. Yes, Twitter will be gone someday, but only when it is replaced by a more popular product (Myspace -> Facebook -> Twitter/Instagram). There is far too big of an audience and far too large of an addiction to information (good and bad information, unfortunately) for social media to ever go away entirely.

There are definitely negatives to twitter and social media, but it provides an extremely valuable (and necessary, imo) service to society whether you like the tool or not.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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TheBadOwl's picture

Name one single good thing that has come from twitter.

When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.

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Zimmy07's picture

I get your sly dig.

i actually have 13 stars interspersed with the double Celtic spiral tattoo’d on my arm.

not because I support slavery.  Because my ancestor got deported from the UK for basically adhering to an obscure religion. - you know the one, the guy on the oats.

most of the people on that ship died in passage. Pissed them off he did.

one generation later - beat them for independence.

i also have the symbols bordered by pikes.  The weapon of the working 

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Bukirob's picture

The very moment that social media decided to push a particular political agenda AND silence those who have views different it was dead to me.  Facebook, Twitter, Google Reddit  etc should have their exemption stripped because they ARE acting as a publisher

You WIN with people.

 

 

WW Hayes

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BrutusB's picture

I guess nothing could stop people from doing that, but as dumb as fans are for tweeting at 'croots, if your decision on where to go to college is in any way impacted by what a bunch of strangers say online you might not be too bright yourself.

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PaulFinebaumIsBiased's picture

I see what your saying, but at the same time Mark Pantoni has said that this sort of fan behavior has a legitimate negative effect on recruiting.

"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."

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BrutusB's picture

Oh I have no doubt it makes the experience less enjoyable for the kids, who would probably rather be mostly left alone.  But I just don't think "I'm going to PSU instead of OSU because GoBucks3252352 told me I was gay" really happens very much.

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stxbuck's picture

Given that your username is actually bitching about a media drama queen, it would seem to me that these types of drama-whore shenanigans are right up your alley-you seem to put some stock into it. We have a 1st Amendment-it applies equally to Lonzo Ball, ESPN, and Hobby Lobby.

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PaulFinebaumIsBiased's picture

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"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."

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stxbuck's picture

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Zimmy07's picture

Comment frowned upon by MOD for not being funny.

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Madbuckeye's picture

Wish I could Upvote this multiple times lmao.

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Zimmy07's picture

A long time ago (2006) I imagined a style of Martial Arts where you make your opponent laugh.

The concept was a REAL hard core martial art, though.

i think I dubbed it Gu Fi Do.

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Zimmy07's picture

God bless Jackie Chan’s early movies!

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Zimmy07's picture

That must obviously be some other Zimmy.

)” as I was a bit sloshed from having just watched (& celebrated) the OSU Michigan game (I was born in Ohio).”

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smith5568's picture

The First Amendment does apply equally to those "individuals", but probably not how you think it does. 

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BuckeyeIn NY's picture

make up fake social media accounts

Aren't all social media accounts fake to an extent?  

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milhouse4588's picture

With how many people there are on social media that think they are "sneaky" this absolutely does happen. Hopefully most recruits we are targeting don't buy in to this either way and know how to spot fake people on the internet. I'm sure this is also something they learn about when OSU teaches brand management for the players.

To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

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stxbuck's picture

I never underestimate the idiocy of people on the interwebz. Yes, I'm sure people would set up fake accounts to catfish/annoy./scam/whatever recruits.

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BuckeyeBulldog's picture

I have my fair share of experience with meme accounts and being a twitter/social media troll. Although I never would tweet at recruits, especially some of the things I hear and see.
Every once in a while though an overzealous fan deserves to have a little bit of ironic reality pushed in their face to combat all the unhinged garbage.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

We win games and get guys to the NFL no player is going to care what some stupid idiot on Twitter says. It's not like those people are part of the program itself. On the rare occasions I've seen OSU players in person they tend to get mobbed by fans who love them and want to wish them well. But I agree, the one thing I hate about Twitter is the anonymity of it. Just because there's a Twitter profile with a photo doesnt mean that's who is really speaking.

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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Earle's picture

Do you think fans ever make up fake social media accounts, pretending to be fans for other schools, and intentionally tweet cringey things at recruits just to scare them away? 

Back when Sports Illustrated was actually a magazine, they had a feature called "This Week's Sign That The Apocalypse Is Upon Us".  I think this is absolutely happening and I think it absolutely means that the end is near.

Axe leukemia!
#Poppystrong

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

That was my favorite section.

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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Earle's picture

I also liked the Dum Quote of the Weak.  My favorite was when someone asked a Clemson defensive player if fatigue was a factor in a game, and his response was, "Who?".

Axe leukemia!
#Poppystrong

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

This Week's Sign That The Apocalypse Is Upon Us

That was always one of my favorite features. It was ahead of its time.

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Earle's picture

Well, prognostications of the apocalypse frequently are.

Axe leukemia!
#Poppystrong

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BrutusB's picture

Yea but eventually they're going to be exactly right.

Briefly, but still.

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Dstacify's picture

In regards to that question above I am as sure of that as I am that OSU and scUM fans are guilty of sending hate mail to players (see Ryan Hamby and Tyler Durbin and in scUM's case John O'Korn).

11 Strong.

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Hovenaut's picture

Exhibit A (not directed at anyone here, just for general reference):

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/college-football-recruiting/2014/06/36419...

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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LeftCoastBuckeye's picture

11w should run that every offseason as a refresher. Besides, it's Ramzy.

My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.   - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)

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bennyhana311's picture

Oh, I guarantee this has already occurred and likely still does.

Football is, after all, a wonderful way to get rid of your aggressions without going to jail for it.
- Woody Hayes

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Earle's picture

Social media is not inherently bad.  It is a tool, and like all tools, the problem is not with the tool, it is with some of the tools who use it.

Axe leukemia!
#Poppystrong

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Triv's picture

Nail, meet Earle. He's the one who just hit you on the head.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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stxbuck's picture

Society in general, and social media in particular needs to figure out better ways of putting boots up said tools asses.

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Northbrook's picture

A false flag op? I'm sure that has happened. Think about the money involved and the effect that can have on ethics. Think about how it wouldn't even take any money for some people to be total shits.

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blu.fan's picture

There are idiot fans in every fanbase. For the life of me, I don't know why any fan EVER, under any circumstance, contacts an athlete or a recruit that they don't know personally. I don't have a twitter account and have no desire to ever have a twitter account. I don't care whether you use snapchat, instagram, twitter, facebook, email, or some other social media of the day, it is just unacceptable, imhe. IIRC, some of your proprietors have put up articles about this in the past which were pretty good and to the point.

Now, you never know what goes through the mind of an athlete. But I have to believe that they understand what a loser a fan is who spends time actually figuring out how to contact them, and actually does it. And it would really be a totally loser fan who would contact a potential recruit, posing as a fan of another team. People need to get a life. Smh.

As regards Michigan fans, there are certainly some idiots in the fanbase. And I wouldn't put it past some of them to do something like this. But then, you've got Buckeye Guy and Big Nut, so you know something about over the top fans.

Here's a piece a crazy OSU fan wrote ripping your own kicker after the Clemson game a couple years back. This kind of fandom is unreal, and just wrong. A total embarassment.

https://totalfratmove.com/ohio-state-angry-email-kicker-fan/

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TURD_BUCKET's picture

So I guess setting up a fake Dabo account and tweeting recruits is not a good idea.

“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

Looking at it from the other side, though, if something like that were to be discovered (that a school had more or less commissioned one of their fans to impersonate a psycho fan of a rival in order to sway recruits), the blowback would be massive.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

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ScarletnGreyTexan's picture

I guess I would need to see a "post" to understand what you are referring to. I follow A LOT of the tOSU recruits but don't really see anything that would be so egregious that it would make me raise my eyebrows. I see OTHER teams fans say some shit that is just horrible but none that would disguise as a Buckeye nut

"it matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul.
GO BUCKS!!!!!

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Smitty516's picture

I know it’s not social media, but I’m honestly surprised fans from other teams haven’t set up players by wearing gear from the other school, paying the player, have some one else take photos/video, and then turn it into the NCAA. Creepy? Absolutely, but actually pretty simple scheme I wouldn’t put past the bagmen of the sec. I guess the only thing that would hinder this whole scenario would be the fact that it is so rampant down there and no one cares if it’s the sec.

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gobucks1966's picture

My Bad didn't read all the responses but here is my 2 cents and not a stupid question. Coach's tell players and families to avoid these chat boards for the simple reason fans getting on here and busting a recruit and even a player on the team. Hamby was eaten alive on many boards back when he dropped the pass vs Texas some years ago and sometimes I think it bothered him for some time after that. I know I get on Victor here but I only tell the truth about what he has done in his time here and if I was the coach he flat out wouldn't play. For the other stuff fans are not going to bust a kid if we are recruiting him that would be stupid only another fan base would bust him to make us look bad. Our fan base would bust his chops if he went to another school all sour grapes though. Either way we should stay out of the mix and let the kid select the school that's right for him not for us. So many other things come into play that a kid is looking for besides football. CBus is a big place not everyone wants that and places like ND and PSU come into play then. Field of study  playing time liking your team mates and staff so much more than just football so let them be and make their own bed.

Denny

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

I highly doubt kids decide to go or not go to a school because of fans tweeting at them. 

Class of 2010.

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CreekBuck's picture

Well Bama fan posioned/killed 100 yr oak trees at Toomer's corner just to spite Auburn fans after Tigers defeat Tide.  SO, I would put nothing past fanatics, even Buckeyes.  I've been around a few that was over the top wit hactions.  My language at times has crossed the line as has my pivate actions (cursing and throwing hat at TV), stomping mad during Cooper years.

I've toned it down as I;ve gotten older (thanks Tress and Urb). 

You win with people.

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