Class of 2020 Recruiting News (Part 49)

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Class Prediction 7/2019 

QB: Miller
RB: Bijan Robinson 
APB: Jaylan Knighton 
WR: Scott
WR: JSN
WR: Fleming 
WR: Mookie
TE: Royer
OL: Johnson
OL: Wypler
OL: James
OL: Fryar
OL: Toutant 
OL: Leroux 
DL: Henry
DL: KBJ
DL: Cowan 
DL: Hamilton 
Hybrid Rush: Melton 
LB/Bullet: Williams
LB: Simon
DB: Cavazos
DB: Phillips 
DB: Martinez 
DB: Ransom

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

This is basically what BG had today as well for his guess. 

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LandonTruckedCollins's picture

Seems like a pretty safe, albeit likely prediction.

Hopefully this list gets locked up and we can flip Ricks or Jarrett.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Sign me up for this as the completed class.  Would love to see a 'big surprise' at the finish, but this is outstanding as-is.

Also, want to add in the #1 kicker in the nation (Seibert).  

It's insane what Day and that staff have pulled off in Year One. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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BPOSU's picture

I assume he left Seibert off because of the rumored greyshirt 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

I'm not adding Seibert bc he isn't counting against the numbers for this year as to stands now. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Isn't 2019 Punter Michael O'Shaughnessy supposed to be grayshirting this year? Per this 11/30/18 article on 11W announcing his commitment:

In terms of scholarships, O'Shaughnessy is expected to grayshirt — meaning he won't be on scholarship until after his first semester, a practice that's often seen with specialists.

If so, wouldn't he count toward 2020?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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MrElectric's picture

Is anyone else worried about only taking two CBs  after taking none last year? 

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Triv's picture

Yes and No. The yes isn't even regarding the recruiting numbers for this class, but moreso that in a worst case scenario Ohio State will have to start 2 corners who have never played serious minutes if Okudah and Wade both turn pro.

In that scenario though, OSU will still have 7 scholarship corners (Williamson, Riep, Banks, Brown, Johnson, Cavazos, Phillips) which is only 1 fewer than we have this season. We also have to account for the fact that OSU will chase Ricks until he puts pen to paper for another school.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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buddyguy's picture

I think they're going to take 3 corners in this class.  Ricks is the big name but something of a long shot.  I think new names will emerge in the next month or two.

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Bignate102's picture

Good points by triv and buddyguy also you never know who may pop in the transfer portal next year if it ends up being a problem.

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stxbuck's picture

I wouldn't say "worried', but yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing another CB in the class if possible. If I had to choose, I'd rather see 3 CBs instead of 2 RBs.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Two DLs out of NC seems like an ambitious projection.

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CCBucks's picture

I don't know if we'll manage to snag both KBJ and Cowan.

I think UNC and Georgia are front runners at the moment.

I would add Ricks...just because...you know...good vibes, right?

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BTBuckeye's picture

I'll take that all DAY. Great class. 

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Sanantonefan's picture

And twice on Saturdays...

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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stxbuck's picture

Can't see anything I would disagree with in that list.

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BennyOhio's picture

I would be surprised if we got Bijan Robinson. 

BennyFootball

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NHBuckeye's picture

Prepare to be surprised then. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

You want a fucking cookie?

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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WildBear Buckeye's picture

Told you.

You want a fucking cookie?

While going back to a thread from a month ago to rub it in is pretty petty, the dude got negged into oblivion for a prediction that turned out to be true. And not just that, the snarky responses to him got tons of knee jerk upvotes. To offset that BS as much as I can, I'm negging them and you and upvoting Benny. He said something you and others didn't like that turned out to be true, at least for now. Certainly he characterized the Robinson situation more accurately than anyone who said "We got him!" That doesn't deserve downvotes.

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BennyOhio's picture

Wouldn't be surprised at all if we got Bijan Robinson!

BennyFootball

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Sanantonefan's picture

I think part 49 will be a boomingly good thread!

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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BuckDrew's picture

That prediction gives us I believe 16 players in the top 200. 

2018 which is the best class I’ve ever seen... had 16 in the top 200

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USNbuckeyeBG's picture

Hoping to see the CB for Bijan that AE referenced yesterday that we should have seen yesterday or today.  Guessing it will start a flood of CBs. 

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Bignate102's picture

The recruiting this year has me even more excited for this season!

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Txsbuckeye's picture

Anyone know the dates our commits are supposed to announce?

#TheBuckeyesAgainstTheWorld

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buckbuck12's picture

You should check the last thread.

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Brohio's picture

I know I will get killed for this but I’ll ask anyway. What am I missing about Royer? He’s not terrible or anything and I don’t have any issue with him taking his time. But if I’m going off of HS tape, it barely looks like he is playing the same sport as Ruckert and Farrell coming out of high school. Is it just because people hate playing the waiting game or do you guys think we need specifically him that badly? Not many other big programs are offering him. It seems like it is more about having a body to fill the position need rather than we absolutely need Joe Royer. What are you guys seeing that I’m not?

And please lighten up about criticizing “kids”. If you’re a senior in high school and can’t handle a mild critique from an internet stranger, the worlds gonna be a pretty tough scene for you. 

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Triv's picture

Not many other big programs are offering him

He has an offer from every single program in the B1G.

It seems like it is more about having a body to fill the position need rather than we absolutely need Joe Royer

Isn't that technically every recruit? OSU doesn't need any one player. They're all just bodies to fill a position. Royer is a very polished pass catcher for his age (in one of the best HS football divisons in the country), just needs to add weight and improve his blocking. He's a guy who's almost certainly going to redshirt, so fretting over SR film (which actually isn't that bad, Ruckert's is just insane) seems short sighted

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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Brohio's picture

He has an offer from every single program in the B1G.

I compare OSU with the blue bloods like Bama, Clemson, etc. Would he be a Bama or Clemson take right now? My contention is no he wouldn't but I guess that is subjective. Most B1G schools are taking any 3 star w a pulse at this point so having offers from Wisco, TTUN, and MSU isn't doing much for me. Again, I'm not saying Royer is a scrub and I'm not even saying there is a better realistic option for us in 2020. I'm just saying we have 4(?) TEs on roster now, and we have taken a total of 2 CB's in the last 2 years. If we're going to go with a body to fill a need, I'd rather burn that schollie for a bigger position need than TE

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keith7456's picture

If you want to look specifically at the TE position Alabama has Caden Clark committed who is currently just one spot higher than Royer. So do you think that because Alabama took him he is suddenly that much better than Royer

https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings/?Ins...

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BuckeyeBulldog's picture

Bama has Caden Clark as their TE commit who is 14 spots below Royer in the composite rankings at the position.

I agree about wanting to see more focus on DB recruiting but it's not like the cupboards are bare, they just lack experience right now... even if Okuda and Wade leave after this season.

Edit, I was looking at 247's own rankings which have Royer at#3 not composite where he is 13.

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Brohio's picture

Bama has offered a whopping 9 TEs this year. Royer isn't one of them. 

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Royer is ranked 5 spots higher amongst TE than Clemson's TE recruit. Royer is ranked 1 spot behind Bama's TE commit and 247 has him far higher than both with a recent bump. Maybe you don't like Royer as much as those guys but others do who watch all of these players. Given how these ranking services go, that means there's a good chance the other ones will also give him a bump eventually.

You honestly don't want OSU to take a TE in this class? Pretty solid chance the Buckeyes are down to 3 TEs after this season. I don't think you can count on Hausmann being back when he never plays. He's a prime grad transfer candidate. The staff clearly would like to maintain 5 TE on roster, which seems appropriate given that injuries happen and freshmen many times aren't ready to play a role.

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

This sounds terrible, but given the lack of passes thrown to the TE's over the last 10 years, I really don't care who OSU offers. We could land the #1 TE or the #40 TE and it makes no difference to me.

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RaleighBuckeye's picture

Clemson started off taking the Royer type players, didn’t get there overnight, that then a Deshaun zests in type qb, our Buckeyes are ahead of that, so relax and enjoy our young morphed Urban like coach, he’s taking Royer and you opinion does not matter, his does  GO Bucks!!!!!

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stxbuck's picture

Clemson just took a 3 star TE from Tallahassee that tOSU had zero interest in. 

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JimCleOSU's picture

insanity.  What were they thinking?  They only get 5 stars.  The program is about to fall off a cliff. 

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FieldsofJreams's picture

OSU doesn't need any one player.

Unfortunately we have to hit on an elite passer every other year.

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SuperAP3's picture

Actually, he doesn’t even have Senior film yet. He has only played through his Junior season.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

He was a camp offer so they saw something there that they liked.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Woodshed's picture

Osu needs a TE this year. He’s the one they want. 

Hes not Jeremy ruckert as a prospect. Not many kids are. 

What exactly are you looking for? Is it that you want osu to get a 5* TE? If so, that’s obviously not happening.

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Buckeye06's picture

I don't watch HS tape often, but 247 has him rated as the #3 TE in the country.  I won't claim to be an expert by any means, but top 5-10 at any position would likely be a take.

We need a TE in this class for numbers sake, and he seems to be rated as good one.  Our TEs need to be physical and run block 70% of the time, and he has the body type to do that IMO

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Brohio's picture

He's 13th, not 3rd, but it's a weak TE class overall. 

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Weave77's picture

He's 3rd according to 247, and he's 13th according to the composite.

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Brohio's picture

I didn't realize people cared about anything but the composite. That's on me I guess

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WoullyBear's picture

Considering the fact rivals doesn't have him nationally ranked and has him lower for in-state rankings than about 25 kids I've never heard of, I think 247's rating may have a little more accuracy here.

If Ann Arbor is a whore, what's Harbaugh for going back to her?

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Bucks19's picture

So you pick the service who has him ranked the highest and go with it? Why did you pick 247?

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stxbuck's picture

So what do YOU look for in TEs that you recruit? What physical and performance benchmarks are important to you?

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NW Buckeye's picture

Mark Pantoni had this take on dissing recruits (I realize that comments on 11W are not direct texts to the kids, however this forum does qualify as social media, and the 'kids' and their parents get on here to read about their prospective school):

Don't tweet at recruits!

Ever heard this one before? Well, Pantoni backed it up. He said both recruits and parents have approached him to talk about how fans treat them on social media, sometimes after the prospect names a non-Ohio State team as the leader in his recruitment. Naturally, Pantoni said, fans can "sometimes play a negative impact" in recruiting.

Pantoni: "And they report it back to us and just say, 'Hey, why would we want to go to a school where the fans are going at us like that?' It's best the fans just kind of lay low, realize you're dealing with kids, and kids got a lot of pressure on them through the recruiting process. Any of that outside recruiting pressure from fans really doesn't help them in their decision."

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Brohio's picture

I'll stand by my earlier sentiment in the original post. I wrote that 2 TE's on our roster are much better than him and we typically sign TE prospects with more impressive tape. I didn't call him a bum and I'm not even talking to him. I'm talking to you guys. And if Joe Royer somehow scrolls 50 comments deep in a message board thread, reads what I wrote, and decides to go elsewhere, then I would advise him to grow the fuck up lol. 

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B1Gbuckeye's picture

I think Kevin Wilson knows more than you.

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stxbuck's picture

FWIW, Elder HS is kind of a TE factory-but most of them sign w/ ND.

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Txsbuckeye's picture

So Pantoni said it sarcastically?

#TheBuckeyesAgainstTheWorld

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Brohio's picture

Tweeting at 18 year old dudes is something I would never do. Regardless if it was positive or negative. Im pretty sure thats what Pantoni meant. I said Royer's tape is nowhere near Ruckerts or Farrells, because it isn't. If there was a meeting on 11W where we decided that everyone has to pretend everyone is the best player of all time, then I must have been sick that day. There are bigger position needs than TE. I asked if I was missing something about Royer that justified him as a must take, which has still yet to be answered by anyone. 

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AC's picture

I don’t agree with Brohio on Royer, I think he’s a solid player who fits with what the staff is looking for (or appears to be looking for). 

However, I don’t think this is even close to what Pantoni is talking about when he says “don’t tweet recruits.” It is not okay to go after a kid on his social media account, but it’s ridiculous to say/assume that people can’t/aren’t going to discuss high school prospects on an Ohio State football recruiting forum. As long as someone isn’t attacking a potential recruit personally or directly, I don’t see why people think it’s taboo to have a discussion about what we like and dislike with a players game. Imo you just have to keep it civil. 

emotionally exhausted and morally bankrupt 

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keith7456's picture

The coaching staff personally watched him and decided that they like him and want him on the team. It isn't always about what you do in High School. They like the way he projects and think that he has the tools they can build into a very good player. He isn't going to be expected to come in next year and play meaningful or any snaps so the staff has plenty of time to develop him into the player they believe that he can be.

Stars aren't everything.

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stxbuck's picture

tOSU isn't looking to split TEs out like Gronk or like Oklahoma does. Quality in-line TEs-like Travis Kelce-don't have the oooohhh n aaahhhh factor like some 6'5 220 dude split wide going deep constantly in his HS film. If Royer wasn't an excellent blocker and didn't know his assignments in the run and pass game cold, he wouldn't be getting a tOSU offer. tOSU needs a TE in this class-Royer impressed the coaches more than any other in-state option

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ChillicotheBuck's picture

Poster has a legitimate concern that everyone seems to be forgetting.  We are always playing 2 or 3 guys with Cb coverage skills.  The last class was weak on cb`s and now this class seems to have one guy that is a high 4 star cb with good coverage skills.  I am not sure what gives but I guess the coaches see a bunch of studs sitting.  Odds are we lose all 3 starters next year,  I don`t see 2 new 5 stars we have recruited that are capable of immediate playing time.  We also lost our ace recruiter and coach to the NFL.  For a comparison.....compare db recruiting to wr recruiting.  Its amazingly different.  Wade and Okudha were and are studs.  We have not filled in with similar guys as far as I can tell.  Ricks would be that type of guy but he seems lsu bound.  I am sure next year our new coaches will pick it up but to me that is 2 years too late.  Can`t outscore everyone.  Go Bucks

C. Brian Massie

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Buckeye06's picture

The last class was weak on cb`s and now this class seems to have one guy that is a high 4 star cb with good coverage skills

Lejond is playing corner for us (or starting there at least).  He is a good cover corner as well.  

Comparing WRs to CBs isn't really fair, would be more fair to compare WRs to the entire secondary, which has been recruiting fine.  If we get Ransom that will be a hell of a DB class (and Paige if there is room)

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ChillicotheBuck's picture

Dont want to take this awesome thread another direction but Okudah and Wade and were top 3 in the country and it has taken them time to start and play at a high level .  We are not and have not recruited at the level now going on 2 years.  Johnson hasn`t been mentioned at all as an up and comer.  Many seen Johnson like Lejond as a coverage safety.  Phillips seems to be a very good talent but is probably going to have to play a year sooner than he should.  I dont see that level of recruiting....guys that can play on an island and excel.  We took 1 db last year who many said was a safety or project....but obviously a highly rated one.  Lejond is starting at corner but many have placed him as a safety.  We need 2 or 3 guys every play that have the ability to play man on man.....that has been a big deal at tOSU and in the big10 for years.  There is a reason we are db U.  We have studs that can lock down in man coverage.  Combs was our ace recruiter and he is gone.  Look at what our new wr(coach) recruiter is doing.  That was my point.  Coaching laid an egg last year and they are gone.  New coaches are trying but are not Combs.  Next year is 2 years too late.  I am sure we will see the affect on the field as we play more zone and other coverages next year until we reload or some guys that haven`t shined start shinning.  Again Ricks would fill that roll.  Go Bucks

C. Brian Massie

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Buckeye06's picture

Let's name the corners who have been 1st rounders then look at how many of them were 5* guys

Roby - nope he was a 3*

Apple - nope a high 4*

Conley - nope mid 4* again

Ward - 3*-low 4* guy as well

Lattimore - top 100 player mid 4* again

Wade/Okudah are actually our highest rated corners over the past 10 years.  

I don't think this is derailing the thread as it's a relevant recruiting discussion.  I think we will see more of Williamson/Banks this year, as OSU prepares itself to lose Arnette/Okudah and maybe Wade.  We don't know what we have behind Okudah/Arnette yet, as we didn't know what we had behind Conley/Apple or behind Lattimore/Conley.  Maybe these young guys will be as good as the guys in the past, but we don't know because we haven't seen them on the field yet 

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OsuSuperman's picture

I'm going to guess that Wade stays and next year will be Wade and Williamson starting at corner.

Go Bucks!

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

I think Wade's definitely staying for 2020 so that he becomes the #1 CB at OSU - succeed in that role, and you're pretty guaranteed to be a 1st round draft pick.

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FieldsofJreams's picture

look at how many of them were 5* guys

Your list is all well and good, but we haven't even had a draft-eligible 5* CB on the team in the last decade.  Apple was the best recruit unless you want to count Webb, who was .008 higher.  I would feel a lot better w/ another elite CB prospect, rather than assuming Williamson/Banks works out.  Sign me up for We Need Ricks!  

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Buckeye06's picture

You must have been nervous when Doran Grant left and Conley had to start, and when Apple left and Lattimore had to start, and when Lattimore/Conley left and Ward had to start

You must be nervous a lot 

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FieldsofJreams's picture

Nervous nah, I think this team is going to the CFP pretty much every year for the next decade.

Saying that I am fine w/ the guys we already got is such a 2nd-tier program mentality.   

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Buckeye06's picture

It's a 2nd tier mentality because I think the guys we have on the roster can win a national title without another freshman corner in 2020?

Of course everyone here wants every single 5* recruit to play for OSU but that's not realistic

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ChillicotheBuck's picture

Great point.  All those guys were pure corners with the hips to play corner.  My point is that Johnson was considered a safety by many last year.....hearing the same on Lejond this year.   I didnt really care last year if we brought in a 3 or 4 star cb.  We only brought in one guy who wasnt known to be a lock down corner.  This year we have one guy who fits that description.  A guy like Ward or Roby in last years class and one in this years class and I don`t think we would be having this conversation.  Also Ward and Roby had high level offers and were both ranked way too low.  The staff knew it and film showed it.  I have not seen that lately except for Phillips film....which I like a lot.  One lock down cb in 2 recruiting classes is tough for tOSU standards and compared to WR recruiting is not even close.  Go Bucks

C. Brian Massie

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Triv's picture

Okudah and Wade and were top 3 in the country and it has taken them time to start and play at a high level 

Okudah played a lot of minutes as a true freshman and was a starter as a true sophomore, and Wade was injured his entire true freshman season and was a starter/heavily used in the CB rotation by midway through his RS Freshman season. I have no idea what you're talking about "taking time to start."

As for the current CBs on the roster, Banks and Brown have both gotten rave reviews from the staff this spring, and Tyreke is raw but ultra talented. Of our recent CB draft picks (Lattimore, Ward, Conley, Apple) none of them were stud contributors by their 2nd year on the team except maybe Apple (he was CB2 on the natty team). Hell, both Lattimore and Conley were openly chastised as liabilities in coverage on this very board during their 2nd years on the team. 

Trust Hafley. Step away from the ledge. We are going to be just fine at corner.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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CCBucks's picture

Hafley and Mattison have already stated that they are going to use more mixed coverages, and are starting to look for a more well-rounded corner.

With the added benefit of the Bullet position, you'll start to see more 5 DB sets, which means the days of playing 99.9% man coverage is gone. You need a guy that is fast, but can tackle guys in space. Guys that read-and-react in zone with instinct, but guys that don't do it all with just speed. 

Previously we recruited  guys who could RUN which lends a lot to a DB's ranking. 

What I'm trying to say is we're looking for a slightly different DB. Like LJ is looking for interchangable parts on the DL, Halfey is looking for the same in the secondary.

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stxbuck's picture

So how do you know that 5 star Ricks would not perform/adapt at the same level as 5 stars Wade and Okudah, as opposed to 4 star Denzel Ward? Why do you think the starhanderouters on 24/7 know more about DBs than guys like Hafley who actually coach and evaluate DBs for a living, as opposed to star chugging on the interwebz?

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STU10's picture

I really like how this 2020 class is coming together -- BUT -- if I am totally 'nit-picking' (nice luxury) I would say the 2020 class is lacking just two things: but imho, they represent the two most important positions in CFB besides QB -- an ELITE speed Pass rush DE AND a 6'1/6'2 ELITE CB -- I certainly do like the two CB's we have so far -- but -- neither is well over 6'0 to deal with the long Clemson-like WR's @ 6'3/6'4 and I don't see any Bosa/Young type elite game-changer that can come off the edge at DE and alter games...

I also am trying to 'trust the staff' that there are some 'studs in waiting' at these positions on the roster already, but with the new phenomenon known as the 'transfer portal' -- can ANY class in any year be missing these type of players?

I think Ricks could solve the taller elite CB concerns but I do not know of any game changing off the edge DE's we are in on this year?

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tkrussell's picture

Isnt Lejond 6'1 and doesn't he run a 4.4 40? He has the tools to be Elite, atleast thats what Urban told he and his father. 

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JimCleOSU's picture

STU, the transfer portable also brings the option of getting one of those players from another team.   That next great DE or CB might come from the portal.  Interesting times. 

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Buckeye06's picture

https://247sports.com/Board/30/Contents/LIVE-UPDATES-The-Opening-Finals-...

Day 2 live updates;

Sounds like Fleming is killing it already.  Phillips has been called out on multiple occasions for blanketing guys.  Scott has a TD

Clark Phillips with back to back plays with tight coverage in the end zone. Ohio State commit.

LB Cody Simon with a nice deflection in the end zone, Ohio State commits all over the field today.

Lejond Cavazos nice PBU on TJ Finley pass in first play of 7on7

CJ Stroud finds Buckeyes commit Julian Fleming in the EZ for six. They then connected for a 40-yard score on the next series.

Clark Phillips with blanket coverage in the end zone leads to an incompletion and Malachi Moore with an INT in the end zone on the next play.

Clark Phillips does a good job of playing big, using his strength in the end zone.

Garrett Greene to Gee Scott for a quick TD. WVU to Ohio State right there.

PI on Cavazos but it was close.

Think that is all of them as of now for OSU guys 

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milhouse4588's picture

Not sure if it's the same as listed by 06 but Fleming had another TD: 

Next play it's Young to Julian Fleming for a TD on a nice run after catch, Fleming is special.

To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

What stood out on the Fleming "go route" video that Lehman posted on Twitter was his long strides and how tall he looked.

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BTBuckeye's picture

Devin Smith-esque...awe yeah

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Buckeye06's picture

no that's a different one.

Work is a bit slow so I will update throughout day as long as i can:

Clark Phillips has looked quick and reactive in coverage and breaking on the ball

Young to Gee Scott for a TD, this offense is so loaded with Fleming, Demas, Scott and Mayer at TE not to mention Tyree at RB

Granted the group of Fleming, Demas, Scott, Washington and Mayer is unfair out here.

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FieldsofJreams's picture

My sources at BlueWhite.com have recently stated otherwise, Fleming is still overrated:

We are probably Top 2 for Lambert. If we land him, ta hell with Fleming. This dude is a baller. 

Yesterday at 10:27 PM

KeAndre Lambert #38 WR

Downs = 4.46 forty, 42" vertical
Fleming = 4.63 forty, 37" vertical

Judge Smails, Jun 25, 2019

Josh Downs #42 WR

Going to be in for a real shock when they flunk out of the football factories, don’t make the NFL, and end up pumping gas.

Or in the case of Fleming, he'll be working at Boyer's Food Market in Elysburg bagging groceries for minimum wage
 

JoeDidntKnow, Jun 23, 2019

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tunehtraef's picture

You’re saying the guy with the username “joedidntknow” isn’t a go to for accurate information. I’m shocked!

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Tipp2Cbus's picture

In the Opening Day 2 thread there is a podcast posted with the recruiting guys like Wiltfong, Simons and Power. It was from last night were they were talking about possible 5 stars. One of them was fully in on Gee being a 5 star, but the others were skeptic for the following reasons:

They were concerned about his straight line speed and how many wide receivers have been drafted in the 1st round with his speed.

One of them, not sure who, questioned whether Gee had reached his ceiling. He stated that he has the best route running skills and that it almost can’t get better and because his speed isn’t 4.4 he thinks he can’t get better for some reason. 

The other concern some had was his statistics in high school, which is a little low. But the guy who had Gee’s back was adamant that this was because he doesn’t have a good QB in high school. They questioned whether or not he can produce more with a better QB

To me the guys who are concerned about his speed are ridiculous. They even admitted that he has elite route running and ball skills ability. Like Brian Hartline said recently, you’d rather have a slow player who plays efficiently, because they play faster, than a super fast guy who is sloppy bc they play slow.  

Have we always been a dynasty ?

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BTBuckeye's picture

One of them, not sure who, questioned whether Gee had reached his ceiling. He stated that he has the best route running skills and that it almost can’t get better and because his speed isn’t 4.4 he thinks he can’t get better for some reason. 

High school kid has "reached his ceiling". I wonder how many college coaches would agree with that sentiment. 

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LB U's picture

The kid is only 17.. He's only going to get bigger and faster. His route running is flawless and he's got great hands. I dont understand the hate.. He's easily a top 5 WR in this class.

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js2378's picture

So Gee's high school WR coach is as good as Brian Hartline and knows those NFL secrets to route running? Maybe we can hire the guy as a GA!

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Sanantonefan's picture

A high school kid who has reached his ceiling?!?!?!?! If that's the case, coach Hartline wouldn't be doing his job. I don't think that's the case and Hartline will help him reach his true potential.

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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irishfury's picture

His speed is just fine.  Wasn't it timed at 4.6?  No doubt he can pull .1 .2 off that time over his college years people just silly.

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Attack51's picture

Agree. When you have that size/physicality combo, low-4.5's is plenty fine

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FTWinfrey08's picture

Same guys thought Joey Bosa peaked in high school. 

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Andrew Ellis's picture

Rivals guy who covers Texas put in a pick for Bijan Robinson to OSU this morning fwiw.

JimCleOSU's picture

Tried to post a gif. It didn't work. 

NICE!!!

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tajikey's picture

Same here. So, in lieu of, {Insert Napoleon Dynamite "Sweet" and Kip "Yes".gif}

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Bucksknowwhatitis's picture

I like it.

The Future is Bright at Ohio State

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Done. Finished. Over. 

Make it public. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Brohio's picture

Hello Darkness my old friend....
 

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lesajima's picture

I guess we can zero in on your age :)

Lesajima

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fin3321's picture

(Herman finishing up the song lyrics): "I thought when Urban left that this would end"

“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.”

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Buctor's picture

Brohio, are you saying he's over troubled waters?

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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TobyMagic's picture

Is this the one we were waiting for? Is it over?

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EBBuck03's picture

Is this the “significant CB” you were referring to yesterday?

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avail31678's picture

On 247?  The only CB for OSU I see is from AE.

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LB U's picture
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Attack51's picture

wow....this is some very pleasant news. Sewell looked amazing in the Cat and Mouse drill last night at The Opening. I share the same thought as many that he could add 15 lbs and potentially be the next Aaron Donald, but he looks like a great Mike as well.

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bucknutz18's picture

Sewell is a top 5 LB nationally imo.  He's a traditional thumper ILB and would pair wonderfully with an exceptional athlete in Simon.  I'd put this in the slim to none category, especially without Urban but glad to see we might get two visits.  I'm in the minority here but would love to see us take another LB and CB in this class.  2019 and 2020 classes combined having only two sure-fire CBs (Phillips & Lejond) and LBs (Stover & Simon) is a bit of a risk if the tweener kids don't pan out as anticipated.  

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Triv's picture

The 2018 class took 3 pure LBs, the 2019 class took 2 pure LBs (Stover and Eichenberg) along with a freak athlete in Craig Young. With our transition towards preferring 2 LBs and  Bullet in favor of 3 pure LBs, LB depth is a non-issue if we only take 1 plus Kourt Williams. There's also Melton who could play LB or rush end in college. We're looking at potentially 12 LBs on the roster in 2020 if Williams and Melton commit.

That being said, I'm just fine with taking Sewell if we can swing that. He's a beast and you don't say no to kids of that talent level.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

I don't even know that I'd call Sewell a traditional ILB. The dude is a complete outlier from what I can see and it's kind of fascinating. As a LB he is 6'2 and hovering around 270 pounds. Basically he's 25-55 pounds heavier than other LBs in the class. He's also a great athlete and I'm really interested as to what he turns into in college. For comparison, Teradja Mitchell was considered a stout ILB prospect two years ago and was listed at 6'2 232 and may have been around 240 at times during his recruitment. He's now listed at 242 in college.

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LB U's picture

Kid is just so smooth with it. There is no way 12 WR's are better than him in this class.

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I WANT CAKE NOW's picture

I have a feeling Bama is going to be yanking Bryce Young away from SC before its all said and done...

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keith7456's picture

Urban won't let that happen.

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irishfury's picture

This is a great post lol.  But If Young was 6'3 he be hyped up so much more.

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OSU_Alum06's picture

I’m on board with Scott being a 5 Star and beyond excited to see him in Columbus, but that looked like a pitch and catch. The safety was lost (granted he is good enough to be at this event, so that’s something). 

OSU Fan & Alum living in SEC Country

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Buckeye06's picture

Going through these updates and it sounds like Phillips has just been a beast today, and in 7 on 7 it is a WR dream and a DB nightmare.  

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Buckeye06's picture

Farrell Rivals predictions:

https://n.rivals.com/news/rivals100-five-star-challenge-farrell-s-commit...
 

Bijan Robinson
 – Ohio State – This appears to be down to Ohio State and Texas and everything I heard at the event led to Robinson ending up in the Buckeyes' class. However, it’s still very close and you can’t count Texas out as he had a great visit there.
Mookie Cooper
 – Ohio State – The former Texas commitment was thought to be an Illinois lean, but his recent trip to Ohio State has changed everything and he appears to be a lock for the Buckeyes.

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CardaleFTW's picture

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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OsuSuperman's picture

In another interview Ricks said that he used to speak with Urban Meyer daily and was hurt when stepped down. He said that he would have committed to Ohio State if Urban was still there. 

He also said he is firm in his commitment to LSU and would only consider going elsewhere if something drastic were to happen like a coaching change.

I would like to be optimistic that we can flip him but I am not going to hold my breath. He is tremendously talented and I would love to have him as a Buckeye.

Go Bucks!

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Triv's picture

he would have committed to Ohio State if Urban was still there. 

Sounds like he's USC bound then

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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Octobersownlibra's picture

It's cfb recruiting it's possible I mean

..Ttun did flip dax hill even after commiting to bama...

Ryan day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time

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buckbuck12's picture

Don't think this is mentioned here but Bijan Robinson and Paris did an Instagram live together and they seemed to have a really great relationship. This might be great for because him building a relation with our recruits will really help.

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EZE4TD's picture

Just had three legends move on and have a crowded WR room this year looking to step up, including freshman Garrett Wilson, the highest-rated WR recruit we’ve ever had. That will be until Julian Fleming signs with us next year. 247 just posted an article (sorry if repeating) that named the top pass catchers from the first day of The Opening. It listed 12 total names. It had Notre Dame TE commit Michael Mayer as the “Alpha Dog,” but Gee Scott was the first person mentioned in the “Next 3,” saying he “might have been the most polished route runner” and has “better long speed than given credit for.”

In the notes section, it said Fleming “has a college body right now and has tremendous speed.” He “didn’t disappoint,” but suffered from spotty QB play. Jaxon Smith-Njigba “had a very good day and showed he belonged,” and “catches the ball as well as anyone, has high level body control and runs really well.” The article also mentioned target Mookie Cooper, saying he is one of the most versatile athletes in the country, and “every time we looked up, he was getting deep and running past a defender.”

I would say the future of Zone 6 is looking bright. I would also say we need to monitor Brian Hartline’s phones, and block any calls from Mike Vrabel (or anyone else for that matter) for the next 10 years or so.

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ELJTSA76's picture

They said that the best WR in the country is a TE?

i can’t really make a judgement, as I’m not seeing what they’re seeing, but that comment is interesting. 

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BuckDrew's picture

No. They said he’s the best pass catcher for one day of the opening 

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Buckeye06's picture

Williams hurt his shoulder playing in a 7v7 even last weekend with his Bosco team and will not be able to work out this week. He was hoping he could go but was told by the trainers to shut it down- final five- Ohio State, Oklahoma, Penn State, Tennessee and Texas A&M.

Update from the Opening.  Kourt seems to be a bit dinged up 

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buckbuck12's picture

We will get 9 Three star recruits but I think five of them might end up as four stars. These might be Martinez, Toutant, Royer.

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CCBucks's picture

Royer is well on his way to that next star.

247 has already given him a huge ratings bump and moved him up to a 4-star and #3TE

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buckbuck12's picture

All the players I listed are 4 stars according to 247 but not in the composite. Rivals rankings for the Ohio is actually Soo weird.

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NHBuckeye's picture

I thought Toutant was already up to 4-star?  

But yeah, all 3 of those guys should end up there.   

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buckbuck12's picture

Anyways Brian Hartline is a fucking monster. Mookie Cooper just said "I'm commiting next week" on his Instagram live.

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CardaleFTW's picture

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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buckeyetyler's picture

Gifs of Office Space or Ron Swanson are always upvote-worthy. 

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

I guess all of the Illinois recruits at The Opening got to him. 

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Dasniksder's picture

That is hilarious. If I can trust 247, Illinois only has 3 commits. OSU has more guys committed for 2021. That’s insane. Maybe I’m reading something wrong because that can’t be right, can it?

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CleveState's picture

As far as Gee Scot Jr having already reached his potential it isn’t unheard of in college football. This isn’t in anyway to disparage the kid it just might mean the analyst thinks he could be 2nd or 3rd round pick as a high 4 star.

This criticism of reaching full potential already has actually been something that a lot of coaches have been leery on with players from Texas. There are assistant coaches that I know that have told me that some players are so fundamentally sound at many of the Texas schools that they end up being highly ranked recruits but didn’t have as much potential compared to a more raw athlete. They thought that was part of the downfall of Mack Brown is they become so reliant on the rankings of recruits in Texas and missed on guys not from the pro typical football factories.

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Rgeiger24's picture

You just have to understand that ceiling. If someone IS an elite route runner, is 6'3, 220, has phenomenal hands, and ran a 4.6 40, then how much more "potential" do you need. Gee is clearly incredibly talented and if he was perfect in every aspect of the game, he's more than capable of being an elite receiver. IMO, when you get in trouble is when a guys is probably relying on his technicality and skill and does not really have ideal physicals but hes so skilled right now that it doesnt matter. I would argue with Gee that he clearly has the measurables of a great player. If someone looked like gee Scott and ran a 4.6 flat but didnt have the hands, route running, ect.. wouldnt he be a "raw player with ideal size and strength" that needs to be developed? "Not being able to develop more" is not a bad thing if they have elite size.

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stxbuck's picture

I'd like to see some of these starhanderouter tools get in Julio Jones' or Larry Fitzgerald's faces and explain to them that they lack "elite speed" to be truly great WRs. 

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AC's picture

While I agree with your premise, Julio Jones can flat out fly. He ran a 4.39 at the NFL combine with a fractured foot. Jones has never lacked foot speed. 

emotionally exhausted and morally bankrupt 

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stxbuck's picture

Never knew Jones was that fast-he doesn’t rely on it.

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CleveState's picture

What you are missing though is that you can be a great WR and be a 2nd round draft pick. There are tons of great WRs who went in the 2nd round. 5 star ratings are for 1str round graded players. The reality is not many 4.6 WRs taken in the first round in today’s game.

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seyekcuB's picture

Some guy named Jerry Rice ran a 4.6.

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BuckDrew's picture

Its very rare that someone who runs a 4.6 in high school isn't going to get faster after 3 years of college

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

They are just looking for excuses to cover themselves because the were totally wrong on Gee Scott. Saying he has peaked as a high school junior is beyond weak sauce. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Did not see this posted and we all figured this was the case but here is public confirmation:

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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EBBuck03's picture

If you think about it, it’s pretty crazy and there isn’t a single recruiting service that has Paris #1 overall. It’s widely considered that he’s a once in a decade OT and they still have LBs and RBs ahead of him. SMH...

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AC's picture

They can’t say there isn’t precedent for having OT’s that high either, in 2017 247 ranked Walker Little (OT) as the top player in the country. Same year they had OT’s Alex Leatherwood at #3 and Trey Smith at #5. 

emotionally exhausted and morally bankrupt 

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Woodshed's picture

How can I believe this?

we were told he gave a verbal to uga. Then gave one to LSU.

Am I just supposed to believe those posters/fans weren’t correct??

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Bucks19's picture

Who exactly said he verballed?

And did you read the story on him? At one point he almost committed to GA 

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Woodshed's picture

There was a poster here that commented numerous times that he committed to Uga.

there were numerous lsu and Uga fans on various sites/social media accounts claiming the same.

and yes, I read the article.

thanks for your contribution.

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Bucks19's picture

AH!!!! Social  media and fans. Great sources. 

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seltsaC's picture

Marcus Dumervil being touted as one of the best OL at the opening so far. He goes to Aquinas so surprised we didn't go after him harder but I suppose that ship has long sailed.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

He was just stonewalling fools at The Opening; they were literally landing at his feet. 

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George Hennen's picture

Yea, we will land Fryar on the 4th and OL will be done. I don’t think we’ve been recruiting him for a while. 

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seltsaC's picture

I know. Love his versatility, seems like a great fit to close out the class.

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stxbuck's picture

Aquinas has a lot of kids who are typical "South Florida" recruitments-drama, bagmen,etc,etc. Maybe the staff realized Dumervil was one of those-I have know idea-and passed.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

He's really good but tough to know the circumstances. He was offered but it's possible he made it clear he wasn't interested in heading up north. If that was the case it's all of question of priorities and how much time you want to spend with a kid that is going to be an unlikely pull when Paris still needed to be secured in that same potential role. I think OSU did the right thing focusing in on Paris as their only real option at LT and then pursuing regional RT possibilities like Carmody, Toutant, and Fryar. 

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Hanawi_'s picture

That's too far away for Stud to recruit.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Insane in the membrane. 

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LouBuck35's picture

Good lord.  4 WRs who are all Top 100 overall players in the country.  We seem light years away from the WR room being called a clown show now.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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Day_Man's picture

you know what to do, Mr. Cooper

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Bignate102's picture

This kid needs a raise, knew exactly what was going to happen with UCLA haha

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Spartan13's picture

Its also amazing the versatility he was able to get. These guys are all at the top of the board and very different types of receivers.

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NHBuckeye's picture

During one of our early blowouts Coach Day should put all 4 of these guys out there together.   Give the B1G D-coordinators nightmares....  

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Osunut91's picture

These four kids to go with Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson, and Jameson Williams...and then adding Jayden Ballard, Lorenzo Styles, and Marvin Harrison Jr in the 21' class. The WR room has a bright future to say the least.

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NHBuckeye's picture

And I’m still holding out hope that Babb can come back.  That kid is a stud!  

Fields of Dreams

 

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NorthPoleBuckeye's picture

Haven't seen a quartet with that much talent since John, Paul, George and Ringo.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Royer in today

Melton tomorrow

Fryar in Thursday

Great week

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Osunut91's picture

And then hopefully a 4th of July weekend surprise. 

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Buckeye614's picture

Wouldn't be surprised if Cam Martinez committed this week also.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Mitchell Melton is going to be such an interesting commit for us. When you look at his finalists (the holy trinity of Midwest football), he sure wouldn't seem to be a mid-range 3*. When you look at his size, you wouldn't expect him to be out in coverage and space as much as he is. Between he and Craig Young, we'll have some really versatile guys with great size for our staff to experiment with. 

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EBBuck03's picture

Speed is an issue for me with Melton. Worried that he’s a tweener. Too slow for LB and too small to put his hand in the dirt.

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Spartan13's picture

Agree, OLB/DE is the one place where being a tweener can really hurt you when the school runs a 4-3

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Man...his offer list is mighty impressive though

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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FTWinfrey08's picture

He’s 6’4 230 and looks skinny right now. I don’t think he will have issues getting to 260ish after a couple of years. 

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Smitty516's picture

I doubt the coaching staff thinks this is a problem or they would have passed just like they did with Jahiem Thomas.

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Osunut91's picture

A year or two with Coach Mick and Melton will develop into a really good DE.

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TUNBUCK89's picture

Absolutely. And the coaching staff (Marotti & LJ) have the blueprint & testemony for that; Sam Hubbard.

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Das Hufeisen's picture

Any reason he's not listed on the Big Board at the top of the page?

AKA the Horseshoe, the Shoe, and the House That Harley Built

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Yes bc he's #17 on the updated commit list for tomorrow. 

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Rgeiger24's picture

Wiltfong on 247 board a few minutes ago, "Buckeyes trending for Mookie Cooper now.

Julian Fleming, Gee Scott and Jaxon Smith-Njigba have all proven to be difference makers here at The Opening Finals. Add Cooper to the mix makes a strong, strong case for top WR class in the nation.

Buckeyes tracking for the best offensive class in the country from top to bottom. Like them for Jaylan Knighton and possibly Bijan Robinson at RB, OL is terrific led by Paris Johnson and Wypler, landed one of the top TEs in the country today in Joe Royer."

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JTstan16's picture

2020 is looking like THE national championship year for OSU, similar to '15. All the pieces will be there. We're playing with house money this year. Enjoy the ride, folks! 

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raiderred's picture

Not sure about that. Need to see some defensive improvements first. Going to be losing a top 5 pick on defense in Chase Young also. Offensively though I agree we will have the personnel to be up there with the best of them.

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JTstan16's picture

We lose one in Chase Young but potentially gain another one in Zach Harrison. Also, offense wins championships in this era. If everything goes well this season, we’ll have a seasoned Justin Fields looking to solidify himself as a Top 10 pick leading the way in 2020 with all the weapons in the world. 

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buckslan's picture

OSU has a better chance this year than 2020 I think. We are going to be losing a lot of starters on defense.

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Smitty516's picture

Strong case? More like closed case we have the best WR class this year Mr. Wiltfong...

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CardaleFTW's picture

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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SuperFanBuck's picture

Strong case for top WR class?? Hell this is a case for the potentially the greatest WR class (on paper) ever.  Gee is still due a ratings bump.  JSN could be too. 

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SFlaBuckeye13's picture

BG CB Mookie to OSU

The world is yours

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Weave77's picture

Alright!

Also, my wife looked over at my phone while I was reading that and had absolutely zero clue what “BG CB Mookie to OSU” meant, and wondered if it was some sort of code lol. Guess I can’t blame her for that.

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BTBuckeye's picture

HARTLINE PIPELINE

Bourbon and a beer please

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Sanantonefan's picture

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Add these four receivers to Wilson and Williams...wowza. Six guys that can just break a defense.

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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BTBuckeye's picture

Bama fans still kinda salty about losing out on Jameson Williams. Kids a burner.

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Aportis0214's picture

I was thinking about him and the WRs the other day and I was wondering how people would rank the likely 6 receivers from the '19 and '20 classes. My ranking is

  1. Garrett Wilson 
  2. Julian Fleming
  3. Jameson Williams
  4. Gee Scott Jr.
  5. Mookie Cooper
  6. Jaxon Smith-Njigba 

The list was harder to make then I thought it would be. Admittedly I'd rank Wilson #1 over anyone as I think he will win the Biletnikoff as a sophomore but obviously Fleming is a bit more athletic and is the #5 player in the country for a reason. I'll probably catch flak for having Gee Scott at 4 but watching Jameson average over 20 yards a catch on bubble screens was insane on his highlight tape (I'm a sucker for speed in highlight tapes). Then I feel bad having Smith-Njigba last becuase I've seen the KJ Hill comparison thrown around and I think it's a great one. Mookie just has something different like a Rondale Moore that we dont have at the moment. 

Trying to rank these guys all ranked top 100 in the country is like splitting hairs 

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buckslan's picture

Based purely on high school I'd rank them like this.

1. Gee Scott Jr.
2. Garrett Wilson
3. Julian Fleming
4. Jaxon Smith-Njigba
5. Mookie Cooper
6. Jameson Williams

While JS is definitely a burner, I think he's going to have to become a more polished route runner and put on a lot of weight before seeing any significant minutes. Guys like JF and GSjr already have 30 or so pounds on him and look to be more ready to play now.

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Aportis0214's picture

I agree that I see Gee Scott being able to contribute game 1 whereas Williams is most likely going to redshirt. I just see Williams long strides and think about what he can be when Hartline gets his hands on him 

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Buckeye06's picture

Gee Scott has probably been the least productive high school player on that list.  His stats don’t wow you in any way.  He has torn up the camp circuit

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Buckeye06's picture

I'll add a bit of context to that as it won't be popular:

He had 48 catches for 654 yards and 6 TDs last year.  Jaxon and Fleming had double that number of yards and TDs.  I am in no way saying Scott can't come in and be a stud from day 1, but if you're going strictly off high school production, he is running 3rd for 2020, and it isn't really close.  He has dominated every camp he has been at, so could be his QB/OL are not giving time to get him the ball to make plays

Give me:

Fleming, Wilson, Scott, Cooper, JSN, Williams 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Scott's QB doesn't even have DII offers. He's not good. Was reported by 247 guys when talking about Scott's performance this week. 

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Rgeiger24's picture

Scott's QB is so bad that they don't even know if he'll start this season. They basically don't have one.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Scott's QB is so bad that they don't even know if he'll start this season. They basically don't have one.

I have to call bullshit on that considering that as a junior last year, Michael Franklin completed 58% of his passes while throwing for 1,868 yards and 22 TDs (and ran for 232 yards) in leading Eastside Catholic to a 13-1 record that included a state championship and beating Peoria Centennial, Arizona's 5A state champion, in a post-season game, 17-0.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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FieldsofJreams's picture

The scariest thing about your list is that Gee could be #1 and it still wouldn’t be wrong.

Gee 1A, Wilson 1B Fleming 1C

Williams 2

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GunnerBuck's picture

Don't forget Gill and Knighton (if it happens) 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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USArmyBuckeye's picture

Haven’t actually logged in to comment yet this off-season, but I wanted to get in here and thank all of the guys (special shout out to Spooner and AE) who contribute to these threads. It’s been great being able to read through once or twice a day and see what’s up in the world of #teenschoosingschoolstoplayfor

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Smitty516's picture

Thank you for your service! As well to all 11W that post who serve! 

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

I second that, brother in arms!

P.S. Sorry you chose Army :p

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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USArmyBuckeye's picture

Me too sometimes lol.  A nice cushy chair and AC just sound so nice every now and then ;)

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

I didn't choose the good life, the good life chose me lol. Nice to have you here brother.

Back to crootin'.

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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440Buck's picture

Go Bucks!

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Just go 5 wide all game...or 4 wide with Bijan either in the backfield or split out.  Run the same 3 plays over and over.  Someone will be open.  Works in NCAA 14. 

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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toad1204's picture

Random airplane is.... random

The offseason is the longest season.

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navybucknut's picture

It has Zone 6 as an ad behind it

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Byaaaahhh's picture

The edit as a whole is kind of a mess but that is going to be a great WR corp.

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Michsux's picture

Was just wondering if taking Fryer is that much of a priority. I know the staff would like 5-6 O-lineman,and we have 5 already, but it seems to me (from the outside looking in) that maybe with numbers possibly getting tighter in the near future,we may be better off holding that scholarship for a highly rated player later in the cycle. Seems like our depth on the O-line is pretty much taken care of.Any thoughts AE? Thanks 

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Rgeiger24's picture

Fryar is going to be in. Simple as that.

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bucks15's picture

If the staff thinks he can play a tackle spot, which seems to be indicated he can, then I think another tackle is a priority. You can never have to many players that can play tackle effectively.  

If he were strictly destined for the inside, I would agree with your point.  

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Michsux's picture

Yes, I agree that Fryer will most likely be in the class and we have to trust the coaches but,my question is should he be a priority over say a highly rated CB?

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Triv's picture

Why do we have to pick one? We can take Fryar and chase Ricks all the way to signing day... the two aren't connected in any way

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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Rgeiger24's picture

If we don't have to worry about about 25 being a strict cap, I don't think there is a concern there. Assume they could make room for 27 or 28 if necessary. I know they are very heavily recruiting Ricks for example, so they're not jeopardizing a scholarship spot that would cost them at all. It seems like they are still trying to get anyone they can thats an elite talent and guys that we haven't even heard much about, so it doesn't really seem like to me that they are worried about numbers besides with someone like Paige because they expect Ransom, Martinez, Phillips, Cavazos and MAYBE one more guy that they would see as better than Paige where you might leave a spot open.

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Northbrook's picture

I don't see any reason to question the recruiting decisions of this staff yet. Maybe I will see reasons down the line in a few years but now I'm just going to assume they know what they are doing. And even though some of their decisions may surprise me I'm not going to second guess because they know a hell of a lot more about the situation than I do.

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ChillicotheBuck's picture

No....imho.  A high upside 3 star or a solid 4 star true cb with cb hips should be priority one in this class....to compliment Phillips.  I am not saying that about Fryar but we are taking a huge oline class.....many possible projects and we are thin at the cb position and if we have injuries or guys don`t work out that we have recruited then the cb position to me should be of highest priority.  I still think that Lejond is a hybrid....cb....safety type with lots of speed....similar to Wade but with less man coverage skills than Wade.  I am surprised the staff isn`t going all in on Ricks(maybe they are) and a few other cb`s and I don`t really care about the star ratings.  Finding a Roby type was necessary last year and really important this year.  I am sure the coaches will change their approach and step away from tight man......but that is what we ran to win our last National championship and it has served many teams....including Clemson and Alabama well.  I know Saban will run other stuff but their bread and butter is tight man with their cb`s.  Go Bucks

C. Brian Massie

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Triv's picture

 I am surprised the staff isn`t going all in on Ricks(maybe they are) 

They are

I also don't understand why people are saying "we should take a CB over Fryar" because the two are literally not related. Taking Fryar does not take a spot from a corner. We always planned to take 6 OL, and the staff has always been comfortable with 2 CBs and 2 safeties. They'll chase Ricks till signing day, but nobody we take right in July has any sort of impact on whether or not we take a 3rd corner whatsoever.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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Buckeye06's picture

https://247sports.com/Article/The-Opening-Finals-roster-top-performers-K...

9. Julian Fleming

There were a lot of receivers that had more receptions than Fleming. Chris Tyree led the day with 17, Theo Johnson was a workhorse with 15, his future teammates Jaxon Smith-Njigba and Gee Scott were both dominant. But when Fleming was on the field, you felt him. He had eight catches, four of them went for touchdowns which tied for the day’s lead. He sat the first two series of his team’s tournament play and the offense stagnated. When he was in, the gears started turning again. Fleming has outstanding hands, deceptive speed (he ran in the 4.4 range) and asserted himself like the No. 1 wide receiver should.

10. Gee Scott

There may not be a more dependable receiver in Texas this weekend than Scott. He had 14 catches without any drops. He tied for the day’s leaderboard in touchdowns with four. He had a highlight worthy one-handed grab. Scott is big, powerful, crisp as a route-runner, incredibly sure-handed and he’s always available. It didn’t matter who was in at quarterback, Scott found a way to produce.

All 3 OSU commits mentioned at WR 

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Mastro16's picture

Larry Fitz feels like an obvious comp for Gee Scott Jr. But he's still got some work to do on the hair if he wants to get to that level

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

How is running a 4.4 considered "deceptive speed"

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Buckeye06's picture

Only thing I can think is he’s a long strider so he doesn’t look as fast

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milhouse4588's picture

That's exactly what this means. He won the prelims of the fastest man comp and his first 4 steps looked suuuuper slow. He's a long strider. Like T Pryor back in the day (obviously not as tall or effortless as him but in the same vein).

To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

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FieldsofJreams's picture

Anyone still claiming Fleming is overrated needs to stop watching football bc it is killing their brain cells.

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buckeyetyler's picture

And one of the things that doesn’t show up in these camp settings is that in the real games, opposing teams will have to find a way to tackle guys like JF and Gee Scott Jr. after they make the catch. 

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Nate4bucks's picture

I haven’t really heard too much about Lathan Ransom and whether or not he’s hanging out with some of the other Buckeye commitments at the opening. At one point all the crystal balls were coming in for him, but it seems like there isn’t much info lately. The last thing I heard was that he emphatically denied being a Buckeye lean and BK saying it’s not a done deal. Should we be worried here?

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

I swear more people in our fanbase need their collective hair brushed than any other. Want to be clear not directing that at the OP but I do see it everywhere. 

Lathan is deciding on his bday or before and there's a reason why all CB's are in for us. The reason why there's nothing new is bc everyone knows where he is going and is waiting for either an edit or video to be done to make it public. But when you announce a decision date/timeline it means a decision has been made. 

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BuckDrew's picture

Ok... but what does this mean for Ransom? Is he out? 

Also, future question for every single recruit we get: Does that mean that (guy that plays the same position) is out? 

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Nate4bucks's picture

The reason I asked is because I was told he was retweeting pro-ND content, specifically about ND recruits working on him at the Opening. Makes me think this isn’t a sure thing. 

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BuckDrew's picture

ND doesn't feel like theyre getting him. Classic social media manipulation. 

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Nate4bucks's picture

Awesome, thanks! Aside from BR, i think he’s the guy I’m most excited about potentially becoming a Buckeye.

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LouBuck35's picture

Nope.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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Mdesk28's picture

Apologies if this has already been answered, but do we know if there's a set announcement time for Melton? Or will it come randomly today via tweet? 

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Pick0711's picture

247 says he is on Commitment watch at 11:30.  

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buckguyfan1's picture

About ready for thread 50.

Simplify...

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Attack51's picture

Wiltfong already has posted two videos of JSN touchdowns from today. 2nd TD was a 60 yarder where he torched the zone the D was playing.

I think we can expect a nice bump for him in rankings, Gee Scott as well since they were so on the fence of him being a 5* during their roundtable.

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OsuSuperman's picture

Melton is in. I love the train of booms we have rolling.

Go Bucks!

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Sanantonefan's picture

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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DJDF's picture

Hope the formatting came out right on these. Not that this is new information to us, but Gleitman tweeted out some gif hints of upcoming commitments. People have already taken guesses on twitter and it looks like ?, ?, Josh Fryar, Lathan Ransom, and Cam Martinez. Not sure who the Jazz or Red Sox players are here to get the hint.

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Dmac3212's picture

Mookie betts = Mookie Cooper

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'57Champs's picture

That gentleman's name is Mookie Betts, probably unrelated.

Because I couldn't go for 3.

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Sims_tOSU's picture

Well i only see two here but it’s obvious who these are guys cmon now.... cam Martinez is for cam newton. And Mookie is for Mookie betts. 

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DJDF's picture

Fixed the formatting, my apologies. The previews would be Mookie Cooper, Mitchell Melton who is in, Fryar, Ransom, and Martinez. Thanks for the info guys.

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

Nothing for Bijan? Oh no it's time to freak out

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keith7456's picture

This looks to me like just a list of kids that will be committed by the end of the week/weekend.

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Mantis's picture

Seriously?  Are there no gifs of dijon mustard? 

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Aportis0214's picture

Thats an odd attempt at being cryptic when everyone has been predicting those 6 guys to OSU for over a week

The Life Of PABLO

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CardaleFTW's picture

I understand that Mookie Betts is for Mookie Cooper, Donovan Mitchell is for Mitchell Melton, Cam Newton is for Cam Martinez, I don't understand the other two though.

Edit: I get the Ransom one now, still confused how a guy in a brown robe dancing has any correlation to Josh Fryar.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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Buckeye06's picture

Mel Gibson in RANSOM

A Friar...which is self explanatory 

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CardaleFTW's picture

Ah, thanks. Makes much more sense now. I thought it was a jedi costume from Star Wars so my dumbass was trying to figure out which recruit had a similar name to Obi Wan Kenobi.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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Byaaaahhh's picture

If there's a recruit out there named Obi Wan Kenobi, you recruit that kid.

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labuck's picture

i think Donovan mitchell could also be Donovan Edwards.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Ooh that’s a good call.  AE was speculating that he could be committing very soon.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Day_Man's picture

Does anyone have any insight as to which position Melton will play at OSU (I haven't watched any of his film yet)? I'm guessing he'll be a DE, but I've read elsewhere that he could be a hybrid OLB/DE (depending on the scheme, of course). Can't wait to see what Coach Mick and Coach Johnson will have in store for Mr. Melton -- he should be a good one. 

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Buckeye06's picture

He will prob start at DE, but could be a guy who is a pass rush specialist primarily.  May never get up to 265 to be a prototypical DE in our scheme 

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Rgeiger24's picture

He said on Birminology that they view him as a Malik Harrison "type" but playing Pete Werner's position

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Buckeye06's picture

Interesting.  He plays fast on his tape; I would think faster than a 4.8 which is what he tested at

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Bucks19's picture

M LB. That's where he wants to start. At this time, he doesn't want to play with his hand in the dirt. 

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Bum juice's picture

I'm really liking this class, I think this class is going to do big things!

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

https://ohiostate.rivals.com/news/cavazos-shining-on-the-field-and-as-a-...

"I'm trying to get the whole Opening to come to Ohio State," Cavazos said with a laugh on Monday. "I've been in Kendall's (Milton) ear, but there's another running back that I've been working even more than Kendall that isn't here right now, but I've been in his ear every day. Lathan (Ransom) is out here and I've been in his ear. I think we've got a great chance for him."

Cavazos takes about as much pride in the recent wave of Ohio State commitments as a coach would. That summer commitment wave could just be getting started.

"I feel like I've been helping to get a lot of people on board," he said. "Doing some GM work for Ohio State. July will be a great month for The Ohio State Buckeyes. Mark my words."

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Mdesk28's picture

I absolutely love this guy!! 

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Buckeye06's picture

Some day 3 updates 

Ohio State WR commit Jaxon Smith-Njigba has been consistently good the last two days in 7-on-7 competition. Gets open with regularity and his explosiveness has improved significantly since we first saw him in Fall 2017.

Ransom has had a very good week, getting his hands on a lot of balls, has dropped a few but has always been involved and around the action- final three schools are Ohio State, Notre Dame and Texas

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

I think some Buckeyes will be getting bumps in the rankings. Gee Scott has already been included in a 247 article about prospects who could get a bump to 5*. There seems to be divided opinion with the 247 staff if he will get it but even if he does I think he will be right outside 5* range in the composite. My guess is 35-40th overall. Smith-Njigba is constantly being mentioned as well by the 247 staff and I think he may get bumped up 15-20 spots in the composite as well.

The other guy I'd keep an eye on is Cavazos. Sounds like he's had some up and down moments but has been mentioned as having some PBUs against some top WRs at an event that is advantageous for QBs and WRs. Sounds like he has some work to do technically but also has used his athletic ability to stay with some of the top WRs. 247 has him criminally under-ranked at 487 and I expect them to bump him into 4* status which should take him into the top 200 in the composite (he's 251st now).

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Triv's picture

Given that he's spent all week at CB, I'm curious if 247 will officially move him from S to CB in their system

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

I would think so, but it is curious they haven't changed his position or his ranking (in a positive way) before now. I get that everything isn't athletic ability but Cavazos' testing at the Opening regional a few months back was elite. He's 2nd on the national leaderboard in testing for DBs behind Kourt Williams. A player with a truly national offer sheet and elite testing should never be ranked around 500th. One of the more baffling rankings in recent memory. Even if you're going off potential he should be top 300.

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Brohio's picture

You know Spooner is just hovering over the "Post New Forum Topic" button waiting to drop Thread 50 like the Davincii sketch from SNL lol. 

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USNbuckeyeBG's picture

Just saw on Twitter someone who interviewed Mookie Cooper. Mookie is gonna announce next week, making his commitment video this weekend and has already informed the staff of the school he is choosing. 

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CardaleFTW's picture

So should we be getting the = from Nevada on Mookie soon?

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Cody Simon getting a bunch of mentions too. Nearly had 2 INTs and Clint Brewster wrote that "he's been everywhere the past two days." If you pair Simon's performance with his 99th percentile testing he's another Buckeye recruit who could get bumped up in the rankings. I think ND is going to regret not making Simon a priority and we should be glad they didn't as that recruitment could have gone the same way as Carmody. 

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Independence Village 22's picture

Hopefully he doesn't blow up enough to make ND rethink his offer status.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

I don't think it will matter. It's one thing if ND ignored him and the best he had was Iowa or something. ND had every opportunity to lock him down and they knowingly let him narrow his list down and pick Ohio State. It wasn't an overnight decision. Walking back that reasoning with a recruit and getting him to flip from a top 5 school would be pretty tough to explain.

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swflbuckeye1's picture

My prediction for July dates and commits. 

July 4: Fryar

July 5: Cam Martinez

July 8: Mookie 

July 15: Ransom 

July 19: Kourt Williams 

July 26: Bijan Robinson 

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CardaleFTW's picture

Ransom commits on the 16th. Sorry, you're already 0/1.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

Everything I read said Ransom commits on OR before the 16th

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