50 Years Ago, Michigan and Bo Schembechler Drew First Blood in the 10-Year War

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kmp10's picture

Fuck *ichigan... on the 4th of July and every other day.

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Always fun to reminisce, even if it’s doesn't always turn out well. But...

 Barry Pierson – one of 21 Ohioans on the Wolverines roster 

...like we say, *ichignan wouldn’t have a program if not for OHIO.

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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shiloh's picture

Unfortunately, old enough to remember. Remember Bo and Billy Taylor were both from Barberton and several ttun starters from Ohio. Don't remember the 7 turnovers. Damn, score could/should have been worse than it was. Remember Woody pretty much forsake the run in favor of passing every play in the second half. :o

If you compare 1969 scores between the two teams up until The Game it was not as earth shattering an upset as portrayed back then. The expectations were increased by the shellacking the Buckeyes gave Purdue the week before 42-14. That game was also on national tv.

And yes, Michigan sucked back then and continues to suck!

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btw, don't expect many up votes in this thread lol.

Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. ~ Mark Twain

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Well I turned 50 this past Memorial Day actually, and while I don’t remember this one [obviously], but I do recall some gut-wrenchers. Being from Youngstown, there was nothing better to me to bask in Tressel’s glow. At the same time, there’s nothing worse to me than the kids that head up north, from the great state of Ohio. 

And while I thought I’d never leave, my wife and I are planning a move to Tennessee [long story that nobody cares to hear]. Going down in a few weeks to look for a home...forever a Buckeye though!

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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Capt. Kline's picture

Which part of the state ? I retired few years ago after living in that state up north, (due to job). Cost of living is extremely low here -low property tax, no state income tax. 

Weather now is ungodly hot but we only had 1/2" of snow this winter. 

Born and bred a Buckeye - Buckeye 'til I die

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Knoxville area

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Capt. Kline's picture

We are west of there close to Fort Loudon dam. 

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IGotAWoody's picture

Fort Loudon... damn.

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Well more specifically we are looking South and west, so Madisonville, Sweetwater, Lenoir, Maryville etc. 

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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Capt. Kline's picture

We are on the ridge that faces dam/canal from the east. We can see the marina and Calhouns from here. It's a half hour to either Maryville or Knoxville. I go to "Murlvill" 99% of the time.

The area between Lenoir City and Farragut is rapidly growing, lot of construction, homes and commercial.

Madisonville and Sweetwater are a long way from everything. Maryville is growing like crazy but traffic is horrendous. Especially with all the damn "turists" down here now.

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Cool. Thanks. My sister in law has lived in west Knoxville for 25+ years. We are actually flying down next Monday 7/22 to look at homes/land. 

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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Capt. Kline's picture

How did your search go in TN?

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TossTrap's picture

That loss hurt more than any other in my lifetime.

Most sports analysts at the time called the squad unbeatable. 

First and goal at the five and Arch is getting the ball.

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Hovenaut's picture

It happened a few years before I was born, but I remember it being mentioned at almost any discussion my elders had on Ohio State and the rivalry.

I also remember reading (maybe SI) early college previews of the 1969 season stating the best football game to see would be Ohio State's first team offense going up against the first team defense in practices.

Man.

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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2morrow's picture

Totally agree Trap.
I can remember watching the game and thinking we would mount a comeback. We really couldn't get out of our own way that day.

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allinosu's picture

That's the one that hurts me the most also. It was unbelievable and really hard to watch. I started hating them during the countdown and never stopped.

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PRO8's picture

Yes that hurt but what really sort of piled on was losing another chance at a National Championship the next year . The Buckeyes went 9-0 beating ttun 20-9 and then went and got upset again this time by a Stanford team they would beat 8 out of 10 times, that just made the whole Super Sophs run seem so wasted . Those two losses at the end of those two seasons  sucked big time.. 

I'll tell you the 70's sucked, the Buckeyes had such good teams but could not get the job done ... there were some really painful loses during that era.. the tie with ttun in 73 that probably cost the Buckeyes a natty even though we did get the trip to the Rose Bowl as Bo went ballistic ... .MSU...UCLA for another National Championship  in the Rose  Bowl ,could have been loss. A team we beat by 20 during the reg season IIRC... painful memories...

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NorthBerg's picture

I was in attendance at that game in Ann Arbor. Schembechler simply has his team better prepared for the game than did Woody. OSU had the superior talent, UM had the superior desire and effort. The 24-12 game was the precursor to almost 30 years of struggles against the Wolverines. The moral to the story is that pride goes before the fall.  It happened then and it will happen again, which might be necessary for Michigan to remain our rivals in a meaningful way.

Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72

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45has2's picture

Bo's shining achievement. No NCs and 5-12 in bowl games. But with Woody's playbook he gave him fits for 10 years. 

Censores irrumasti.

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RollRedRoll's picture

To hell with Bo, Woodson, Howard and every other player or coach born and raised in Ohio who went and played or coached for TTUN. 

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Amen. Now let’s go blow some sh*t up!

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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RollRedRoll's picture

Hell Yes!! I say we start with whore arbor!! 

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PRO8's picture

Blow shit up is my middle name.... Juggernaut

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MGOBLUE0205's picture

To hell with Craig Krenzel :)

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RollRedRoll's picture

MGOBLUE0205, thats the spirit. +1

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buckeye phi's picture

It happened then and it will happen again, which might be necessary for Michigan to remain our rivals in a meaningful way.

I'm hoping we can learn from the past and keep the same thing from happening again.  There are few things I'd like better than watching TTUN fade (even further) in to football obscurity - accentuated by their inability to compete with us for an extended period of time.  I don't want them to remain our rivals in a "meaningful way" - that is, if a meaningful way implies they are beating us sometimes. 

Screw Michigan!  I hope the roll we're presently on vs them continues indefinitely.  At least until we pull comfortably ahead in the all-time series - which is still a fair way off, unfortunately..  

Besides, unlike 1969, we are not currently considered to be an "unbeatable" team like that spectacular squad.  Remember - when it comes to actual results on the national stage, we're not even playing second fiddle to Alabama and Clemson (Oklahoma fits that billing better than we do, right now). 

For that matter, we haven't even made it to the playoff the last two seasons - and I, for one, would like to forget our appearance three seasons ago, wouldn't you?. 

Taking off the scarlet tinted glasses for a moment, we're just not that much higher in college football's pecking order than the skunkweasels to even think about overlooking them at this point in time.  It's nothing like '69 in that regard -

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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PRO8's picture

I remember a few years ago on another forum how one of the commentors was lamenting how the rivalry had died and how it would be nice to see the rivalry rejuvenated in his words..  Its like I said at that time and I'll say it again if  the Buckeyes went on to win every game  the next 20 years, just beating the crap out of ttun that it would not bother me at all if ttun was relegated to an after thought, just another game to go and kick ass like a normal everyday thing, maybe  getting to the  Illinois or Rutgers level  .

people/fans  thinking about the rivalry needing to  be rejuvenated just piss me off.... I like it just the way it is right now,  screw ttun...  The Buckeyes winning is all I'm concerned about , you play the game to win , not lament about the other team not being good enough to win..

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BeatMeechigun's picture

I don't think any Buckeye fan wants 1995-1997 for the sake of the rivalry.  Or even 1994-1998 if we want to argue a closer record.

There are some of us though who love (schaddenfreude is the word I believe) to not merely see Ohio State win but to see Michigan suffer.  What the Illinois program is going through right now is not suffering, it is simple irrelevancy.  Their fans have and will continue to disappear in number across the state, leaving only the rah-rah alumni core.  What I want is 2016, 2018, 2006, 2007, 2012, etc. etc.  rather than 2008-2010.  I want to see arrogant Michigan fans GENUINELY believing they have the better team year after year, whether based on rankings, pre-season projections, or delusions.  I want every game they play us to feel like 1993, 1995, 1996, or 1997 in reverse.  Beating a 2008 Michigan team still counts and still yields the same gold pants.  But I want more.  I want to see our Buckeyes take EVERYTHING from them like we did in 2006, 2016, and 2018.  We could (and hopefully do) win the next 20 in a row.  I just want to see Michigan ranked top 10 in many of those occasions to make it hurt more.  That may be playing with fire but that's what I want.

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buckeye phi's picture

I don't think we'll ever really have to worry about their fans believing they have better teams than they actually do.  The September Heismans will undoubtedly continue to be a thing up there, as well. 

Remember the Hoke era?  There really wasn't much of a dip in delusion in their fan base when they actually did suck.  I want TTUN to fail and fail miserably.  And I'd like our program to be one of the main reasons why. 

At this point I'd rather see us in nail-biters vs Alabama or Clemson in the National Championship Playoff - having destroyed the skunkweasels on our way to greater glory. 

Screw Michigan!

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement. - Will Rogers

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

Screw Michigan!  I hope the roll we're presently on vs them continues indefinitely.  At least until we pull comfortably ahead in the all-time series - which is still a fair way off, unfortunately.. 

Preach, Phi! And welcome back.

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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funkyfarmer's picture

Remember this so well. 17 years old, my 1st OSU-UM game. Local standout Otis playing fullback. Parked and tailgated on the golf course. The turnovers, and that Terrier named “Blu” rolling a soccer ball end zone to end zone. The following year, sitting in Block O was much better.

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DonTurner's picture

OMG, now OSU fans are reminiscing the old days of Michigan.     I like them better as a badminton school. 

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Art Harrell's picture

I remember the Game...arrived home from Vietnam April 1969...as always Fuck Bo...Fuck scUm...Fuck scUm coach's...Fuck scUm fans...Fuck Ann Arbor...GO BUCKS...

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TURD_BUCKET's picture

Woody called the 1969 team the best team that he ever coached.  Woody put a rug that reflected the score of the 1969 game, on the floor of the dressing room, that the players had to cross every day heading to practice.  The thing I remember most about this game were the many turnovers by the Buckeyes....And crying after the game.

“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden

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Buctor's picture

Is this the game Kern hurt his shoulder?  Seems I remember him being driven into the ground, just not sure which game.  

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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SilverHaven's picture

Coach Woody Hayes was a military historian. 

He knew about the extended Hundred Years' War, a series of wars between the "English" House of Plantagenet and the French House of Valois that were fought for the Kingdom of France. Evenly matched, neither side could deliver the deciding blow for decades.

Woody also knew about the devastating Thirty Years' War fought over the Holy Roman Empire of central Europe. Again the Catholic kingdoms could not defeat the Protestant princes of the German states and vice versa.

And he most certainly knew about the Seven Years' War in the mid 1700s, which drew in the major European powers and began with the French and Indian War in the American colonies.

Woody even knew about the Ten Years' War (la Guerra de los Diez Anos) fought in the mid 1800s by Cuba for independence from Spain.  It was the first of three Cuban conflicts that were undecided until 1898, when the United States joined the struggle and tipped the balance in what is called the Spanish-American War.

And so given Woody's interest in military history, the fierce rivalry between Ohio State and Michigan in the 1970s, with neither side getting the upper hand (4-5-1), was dubbed the Ten Years' War.

Not the 10-Year War.

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Chargerbuck's picture

Worst loss of my lifetime...  plenty of painful ones since, but this one...   24-12...   Rex and the boys should have won three straight national titles...  the “Super Sophs” were probably the best collection of players ever recruited in one season...  If I am not mistaken, I think 3 of the DBs (Tatum, Sensibaugh, and Anderson) were 1st round picks...  

That loss still makes me want to throw up...   

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Goby's picture

I'll take my share of the blame for this one.  At just shy of 9 months old, I didn't quite completely grasp the magnitude of the last Saturday in November.  My parents set me straight and I improved in 1970.

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