If you're a great player at a deep position, you're on the front of everyone's mind.
If you're a good player at a thin position, same deal.
If you're a good player at a deep position, you get lost in the weeds a bit. We're deep at WR, TE, LB, DB, and DL so we've got a lot of guys that will contribute big minutes that are flying under the radar. This is their chance to become a household name!
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Man I don’t even want say it [injury bug] but we have many guys just one play away from playing....and we’d be just fine. Depth is crazy good at some positions - but this is where we also talk about The Culture, and keeping Marotti to help keep that alive. The Next Man Up is alive and well. Furthermore, maybe a significant diff form last season, we may just see multiple guys/combinations play - particularly on D - whereas last season it took some time before White got his chance....
"You have to play with emotion, you can't let emotion play with you." - Ryan Day
It sucks when anyone loses their spot to injury, seriously, feel for those dudes. But in some cases that's when you see the likes of Brendan White come onto the scene. Def. a good with the bad type of situation.
White finally got his chance not because of someone's injury, rather the continued pathetic play of both Pryor & Wint.
Pretty sure White got his shot when Fuller was ejected for targeting in the Nebraska game. Will agree that he retained his spot due to the spotty play of Pryor and Wint.
By the time Ohio State suited up again, this time at home for a showdown with Nebraska, Meyer hadn't made a significant personnel change. But the defensive staff had their hand forced when Jordan Fuller was ejected early for targeting, so they turned to Brendon White.
Great call with White obviously
" It's real good whatcha done Anthony, real good ! "
I could see (and hope) ALL six of these dudes playing great this year. GO BUCKS!
“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden
I think Harrison is also underappreciated...a rock in an unit that had their fair share of issues last season.
Hamilton was our second best tackle last year and not nearly enough people recognize it. Think he is even underrated in this article’s description.
His per-play production this year is going to be fantastic when last year it was very good.
Totally. His freshman spring game was dominating
Man, I would love to see Justin Hilliard have a monster season. I was so hyped when he chose the Buckeyes, but the injury bug just won't go away for that man. That would certainly be an under the radar player.
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I’ve never felt worse for any player than Mr. Hilliard. From a five star with huge upside, to an injury riddled career. Thank OSU for real life Wednesday’s. Just love this kid
Given the changes in defensive scheme, I'm wondering if the "space eater" interior DLmen like Davon Hamilton and Tommy Togiai will be somewhat upgraded in importance compared to the "twitchy" interior DLmen like Jashon Cornell and Robert Landers. No matter what, though, this is the most loaded DL I've ever seen at Ohio State, if you factor in all four positions and the 2/3 deep embarrassment-of-depth.
Cooper is another player who has been here a while who is unlikely to be a superstar but could play an important role. He's overlooked even as an overlooked player.
Hamilton is who I hoped would start and BB coming in to give an offense fits with adjusting, yet I would rather see Hamilton on first down and most second downs 60/40
I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk
I was going to write some smart-assed comment about appreciating Harrison because of everyone else around him but, truth be told, I want all of these guys to break out. With OSU's depth, if that happens, we are all in for a great year.
I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.
Harrison is not under appreciated or overlooked. He was our best LB and could have went to the NFL last year. He's the only guaranteed starter at LB and only one who played at a high level last year.
I predict Harrison has a season to remember and elevates himself to first round pick status in 2020. Who knows if Borland and Werner will improve or not (it is concerning that Borland is injured yet again and has yet to practice under Al Washington since he's been here considering I highly suspect that Borland's Achilles injury affected his play last season). But I think Bill Davis's coaching greatly affected this LB group the last two seasons and it's telling that Harrison was talented enough to overcome that last season and still play at a high level. Devin Bush turned into a first round pick last year under Washington and I think it's very possible Harrison could do the same.
Harrison getting lost in the shuffle is a good thing. That means that he is doing things right so he isn't lumped into the category with Werner and Borland.
Victor, in my opinion, is lost more in the shuffle than he not. I hope he can change that narrative this season. Step up, big man!
I think he has the talent to do it. People forget that Terry and Parris last year really put it all toghther for the first time on the field. I'm hopping Victor can make the same jump.
Improved QB passing had as much, if not more to do with the “putting it together” by the WRs last year, as anything else!
I don't think Victor or Harrison are overlooked. McCall and Jackson and any backup linebacker are being overlooked.
Does anyone else think Victor's lack of production was related to the piss poor WR Coach we had in place for most of Urban's era? We have had some pretty stellar potential come into the WR Room over the last 8 years and a lot of it never developed the way it should have. You can attribute some of that to Urban's dedication to the QB Run, but even before the whole Domestic Violence stuff broke last year that guy just never developed his players.
I almost wonder if Victor's story would have been a lot different if Hartline were in that room sooner?
I might agree with this if it weren't for the fact that Devin Smith, Michael Thomas, Campbell, Johnny Dixon, Terry McClaurin, and KJ Hill all suffered under the same piss poor WR coach. Why did they manage to power thru the bad coaching and Victor did not? That said, I hope Victor is just a late bloomer and really shines this year.
First off ZS was a very good coach and recruiter until what happened very few had a bad word about him. I think as fans we should get off his back as a coach. Not only that why hasn't Victor improved like everyone else under Hartline since he gets all the credit and Haskins had nothing to do with better receiver play. My take on Victor is he is scared and looking through his ear hole along with alligator arms. The catch he made at PSU wasn't clean and was bobbled. How many times has he fumbled and lucky to get it back. Does he work hard in the weight room ? It looks to me no and looks frail as day one. He should never see the field there are just to many better than him that should get his minutes. Something to chew on I would like to see that 90 yard td play with another team on defense and not our kids. He knew he wouldn't get hit or at least very hard by his own team mates.
I am wincing. Pretty brutal but....
I throw Urban under the bus far more than I should for a hall of fame coach, but I recall there being a culture enforced that required wide receivers must establish themselves on special teams and be dominant run blockers to garner snaps and increased playing time. I think Victor and CJ Saunders both suffered from that mentality with their physical traits and playstyle.
We'll see if that changes this year under a new regime however. Hopefully I'm just blowing smoke and their only inhibiting factor was their own play itself, and not only the earned success that a coaching staff allows.
Victor to me has shown what he is...but....we all remember Parris Campbell also having the drops early in his career, and was able to work hard to improve it. Hopefully Victor has also put in the work. The other thing is he's got to get stronger to the ball. With that height/length, he should have no problem with jump balls He's got a Randy Moss-type frame, but Moss didn't get pushed around. Victor just gets outmuscled for position to easily for those balls, to the point he can't make a play.
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He hasn't gained a pound or gotten stronger in three years here so don't expect anything different.
I'm very surprised there are not any of the OL kids on this list....
Harrison belongs on the first list if expected great players.
Two. I really want Victor to be great but he was still dropping big passes in the last 3 games. Hopefully he’ll step up in ‘19