That Tribe sign just made my day, and it is only 4:22am here in the Midwest. That is a beautiful thing.
The story about the drug lord escape somehow seems fitting. Guy has been sitting around in jail for more than 2 years awaiting extradition and finally he has had enough and sneaks out through a hole in the roof. To top it off, 3 other inmates go with him and even rob the house next door. Justice, or not.
"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen. I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie
Go to bed the booms will come soon.
Fuck eSECpn and fuck Mythigan.
Back home in the Toledo area, the Tigers fans also worshiped at the altar of Bo.
West of Toledo...10 miles from the #ichigan state line. Tiger fans who love the sign in Cleveland.
Went to 2012 World Series game in Detroit with my Tiger's jersey and OSU hat. Pleasantly surprised by how many OH and Go Bucks I received.
Trying to decide if this is a jersey foul or justified steps to show everyone that you're not associated with scUM.
I went to Comerica Park shortly after it opened. It is as good as any, from my perspective. And they kicked the Yankees ass that day, so every one was happy.
It will be very interesting to see what happens with this California bill. I haven't read too much into it but it sounds pretty much like what I've been suggesting for years. You don't have to pay the players if you allow them to get paid on their own. I really hope they force the NCAA to make some changes on this.
Speaking of players getting paid, how bout LSU?! Recruits dad got paid $150,000 and nobody is covering it. Imagine the media coverage if Ohio State had done that.
Just another of a ton of reasons that we need to really please just let California secede from the United States. California really deserves to be its own screwed up country.
In most instances I agree. But I'm actually on board with what they're doing here.
Why? Don't you realize that recruits will be bought by the highest bidder with promises of huge deals for likeness if they go to certain schools. They aren't capping that so there will be a slew of agents brokering deals for them from HS. Do you have a solution that would stop that? It's a can of worms with most schools pulling out to a lessor division of which I think the BIG as a whole would also do.
Agree with both of you. Players should be able to benefit from their likeness but I have no idea how you can regulate it and keep parity.
Hey, I'm all for it IF there is a way to regulate it. It used to be a fair deal, a college education and sports development for a possible pro career but college got way to greedy. Coaching salaries and huge money deals makes it look more than ever that they are using these kids as slave labor.
So you are against Title IX?
I see your point but they went way to far. Coaching salaries spiraled out of control.
Fair enough. Supply and demand. I would say coaching salaries and athletic departments (from the spiraled programs you refer to) are completely self funded. And lets not throw out the baby to change the bath water.
Plus I would love to see the billions of $ brand awareness dollars generated from college sports programs for better good of the school. For instance, I doubt tOSU's recent Frosh class would have (all time tOSU high) an average SAT score of 1338 without Urban Meyer having been there.
They were self funded before the big jump from Woody's days. I'm just saying a million dollars to me would be enough. If they capped it we wouldn't have so many coaches jumping at every opportunity. I like the idea of a better student for the university. I've pondered myself about changes that would benefit the overall of the college like a 5th year for master degrees or grade point averages in more advanced classes. My wildest thought was for an NFL type team made up of graduates (who will be paid and working on post graduate)of their universities for the spring and summer that the fans already love and give them something for the off season. Just thoughts.
Do you believe there is a chance in our lifetime that there would be a rule that college coaches cant be paid more than $1M/yr?
No, that ship sailed already. The only way is if the players get paid and do everything they can do as professionals which would create a super league and a minor league(those that can pay and those that can't). The minor league (which I think the BIG would be included) will operate with less scholarships and less coaching money. The only reason I brought it up was that it looks a little bad for coaches to be jumping all over the place to grab millions upon millions while the athlete has to miss a year to do the same thing in most cases.
Seriously? A rule against how much a college coach can make? Say what?
This is a good point. Oregon would suddenly become a powerhouse, with Nike suddenly able to pay kids for their "likeness".
small media market and a weak program. Also too far west.
The top schools and Los Angeles teams will benefit most. Very good for osu
Its one of the reasons paying playings wont happen. People forget that it further separates competitive parity. Let me add that about only 25 schools athletic departments of all colleges actually operate in the green. Most colleges out there literally cant afford to pay athletes.
However, I do somewhat admire the Unicorns and Rainbow Dreaming from you guys though.
Beware of the "Shitwalkers".
Only if they take Florida with them
Enjoy the beaches of Cleveland.
Honestly, how many people in here not living in CA have traveled to CA for a beach vacation? I know no one.
Yawn, more boring, uninformed California hate. Dime a dozen
For the next six weeks, I will still be a resident of this place, and when I leave, after having lived here for 20 years, I will never look back. This "dime a dozen", "...California hate" you refer to is not unfounded or "...uninformed...". The rest of the country SHOULD be looking at California as a way to NOT be doing just about everything, and this piece of legislation is another example; housing costs, homelessness, hyper-regulation, high taxation - and few other issues I won't name here so as to stay on the right side of the comment policy - are actually sinking this place. This move by the legislature is emblematic of the root cause of many of these symptoms, and if you see that as "hate", I'm sorry, but that's on you.
From just yesterday: https://wolfstreet.com/2019/06/24/california-panics-about-losing-busines... . Still want to stand by that position?
I for one will be glad to show this state my backside. Good luck to anyone who is left to deal with what remains of it. The term is "bagholders".
The only thing that's new in the world is the history that we have forgotten.
LOL quoting a site called "wolfstreet". So many people love to imagine that somehow Texas is a major winner at California's expense. Couldn't be further from the truth. They have one of the largest economies in the world, they won't mind if you leave.
LOL ignoring data. This really doesn't have anything to do with Texas. Everyone wants to talk about what a big economy California has, but that really means nothing as your quality of life is going to shit, and if you really think it hasn't, you are either really rich (good for you - they're going to keep taking more from you, so you'll need it) or ignorant of what's happening (bad for you, because it's all around you, and you are still blinded somehow, perhaps so enamored of "the great weather that makes it all worth it").
I, along with all the others who are leaving, will grab some popcorn and watch from the distance as you all drown in your own filth.
ah yes, citing fake "data" is a way to really win an argument. but hey, that's the trend from the top of our country lately
You’re joking, right? Did you even read it? You did see that all of the data was from the CA EDD, didn’t you? That’s a California governmental agency, you know, the one to whom your employer pays payroll taxes and to whom you pay your SUI? Are you alleging that the EDD is making up numbers?
If what you’re saying is that you think the data was made up by a blog writer at Wolfstreet to prop up an invalid position, c’mon - you really are in denial about what is going on in this state. There isn’t any argument, only data. Being both ill-informed as well as unable to think critically is the real affliction that currently plagues us.
The 8th biggest economy in the world. Kinda think we need em despite your political views.
As someone who actually lives here, I always hear about the economy thing, yet I drive by a dozen or so homeless people on my way to work each day. I pay $4K/year in *city* property taxes, and gas is nearly $4/gallon. It leaves me wondering where the state would be if we took Hollywood revenue and Disneyland out of the calculations.
Probably end up just fine with the whole tech thing, massive amounts of agriculture, oil refineries, biotech and revenue from the ports.
That sounds an awfully lot like Mexico.
You're right, Mexico has their own Silicon Valley with equivalents to Apple, Google, Cisco, Oracle, Salesforce, Tesla, HP, Facebook, Twitter, etc...
They also have very large plant-based pharmaceutical industry!
Wow. I don't even wanna take the time to write about how ignorant this is. But its not surprising.
I bleed scarlet...literally
This is one of the most hilariously ignorant comments I’ve read in a while. I don’t live in California, but this made me laugh.
I think Six Flags, Lego Land and Seaworld can help pick up the slack from Disney. Crisis averted.
Yes. Yes. Yes!
Do we need their $1.15 TRILLION debt as well?
Hard to think of a non-political reason to so despise California. Gorgeous state with beautiful weather. A huge economy. Multiple great cities that dot the great countryside (LA not being one).
I guess the traffic sucks pretty hard. I'll say that.
It's fine, we have plenty of people here already so it's not like we need to convince more people from Ohio to keep our economy from booming.
You don't have any idea what you are talking about. California, if it were its own country, would be the fifth largest economy in the world. As someone who spends a lot of time there, it is a very desirable place to live, which is why almost no one can afford a home any more. Also, I will remind you about the site's policy on politics, as it is clear you are dancing on the edge. Stick to your bad opinions on Buckeye football.
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
NCAA is about to find out that California does not care what any other organization thinks or wants. And generally, because it would be like the 5th largest economy in the world on it's own, it does what it wants. About time the NCAA found out that it is far less powerful than it really is even though I also would have no issue if California decided it wanted to be it's own country.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
I’ll make the same argument I have with people who think Texas has a large enough economy to go it alone: what happens to the economy when they lose NASA & all the military bases?
What happens when [insert state name here] has to build their own military with advanced weapon systems?
We are stronger together. Just like Buckeye nation is stronger together.
Actually the US military would probably just lease the land from Cali and Texas like they do with other countries this generating more revenue for those new countries. Then those bases also act as a deterrent from attack without paying a dime.
Not saying any of it is a good idea, just the military part of it is realistically doable since they make More money then most countries with militaries.
"I spent 90 percent of my money on women and drink. The rest I wasted." - George Best
I actually never even considered that. Very interesting counter point. I also wondered what would happen to the significant number of US National headquarters. Obviously they’d have to relocate quite a few of the jobs.
Not a damn thing happens. Instead of sending their tax dollars to Washington they will build their own military. Neither California or Texas need the federal military spend to keep their economies going.
The one fair point for the NCAA on the Cali bill is that it would put CA schools at a recruiting advantage vs. everyone else. Every 5 star will go to USC. This needs to happen all across the country, not in one state.
That is a fair point. Counterpoint, this bill is something the NCAA should have done on their own a long time ago. I don't know if its greed, or incompetence or both. But the NCAA needs to modify their amateur rules. We have all been in agreement on that for a long time. Sometimes to make an omelette you need to break a few eggs. I am glad somebody is trying to force the issue.
this bill is something the NCAA should have done on their own a long time ago
Give me your Idea on how this could be done.
The NCAA would have to set up a "salary cap" like pro sports. There would be a cap on how much total money the football players could earn for their image/likeness, both as an individual and as a team. Each team could recruit players as they do now but would have to keep under the proposed salary cap. I know it wouldn't be a perfect world but that is something that might have a shot at working. Some might say schools would cheat by giving players money "under the table" but that actually happens now.
The NCAA is on its way out as we know it. It has been a corrupt organization for decades and now that corruption is going to bring it down unless they make changes (which they probably won't).
If the NCAA makes good on its threat to ban California teams from playing for NCAA championships, it could cause a domino effect. What if the Pac 12, Big 12, and Big Ten decide to form its own organization and leave the NCAA? It could be an interesting time ahead for college sports.
Why would there be a cap on endorsements? As long as the money isn't coming from the school or its boosters, why should a college athletes income be limited?
The only reason to cap it would be to stop schools with deep pockets (boosters) from paying players or, as stated above, Nike throwing even more money to get players to Oregon. No system would be perfect but if every player goes to the highest bidder there would be schools stockpiling the best players by paying them (not for their likeness or endorsement money, simply to get them on its campus).
I don't think its as difficult as its made out to be. Allow the players to make money off their own likeness. Meaning they can do commercials and endorsements, they can get paid for autographs, ect. Basically allow them to participate in the free market. There would have to be rules in place for exactly what the players share of jersey and merchandise sales would be. I still don't want to see schools paying the kids (outside of a cut of the merchandise), and I would still not allow boosters to participate in any endorsement. But if a kid goes to the local sporting goods store and signs autographs for $20 each, or does a commercial for a local car dealership, so be it. If Nike or Adidas want to sign a kid, fine. As long as the deal is not contingent on where the kid plays in college. And quite frankly, I don't think there is a lot of national appeal for individual college football players. Basketball maybe. But I don't think we'd see the massive deals that people are afraid of. But if we did, who cares? Maybe one or two every now and then, but there are very very few college athletes that have national appeal that would be worth even a midsize endorsement contract let alone the big ones. We've learned over the last couple years that Adidas is already doing some of that shit and its not going to stop. Basically I think that not only is it the right thing to do for the players, but also I think allowing these deals to operate in the light of day will expose and weed out some of the dirty shit thats going on. The argument against this plan is that players will go to the highest bidder or that boosters will sign endorsement deals with kids and it will make the playing field uneven. Basically it will further the divide between the haves and have nots. But that divide is not going to change. If at the Ohio States, Clemsons, and Alabamas of the world the kids started getting endorsement deals, how would our recruiting classes look at all different than they do now in comparison to the Rutgers, Boston College's, and Vanderbilts? We will still be us, and they will still be them. Any kid that would possibly get an endorsement deal is going to the haves already. So even in the worst case scenario, it doesn't change the playing field.
and I would still not allow boosters to participate in any endorsement.
Good luck with that. The most common example: Nike, booster, Oregon.
Not allowing boosters to pay kids is already against the rules. It would be no more or less against the rules under my plan. Is your argument that we should not allow kids a legitimate avenue to make money because some people might continue to break rules that are already in place?
How do you separate "booster" from "paying for likeness"?
Sports media markets are as important as media markets to athletes. So current top athletic schools, especially those in urban markets will be fine. Osu is gonna be just fine.
Are there free market folks hating this free market move by Cali?
Proud that Chimdi Chekwa is a Buckeye.
“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden
He got a lot of grief from Buckeye fans, including me, about his coverage skills despite being an All American. Seeing a video like that reminds you there is much more to these athletes than what we see on the field. Wish him nothing but the best and hope he continues to be a positive influence in whatever he is involved in.
He seems like a great guy. I also enjoyed the Beanie & Boom episode that they did on location at his restaurant. I'm going to have to put his BBQ joint on my itinerary when I get back to Cbus this fall.
My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)
That was a great piece on him. I remember his recruitment. He was a nice find by Tressel's staff, one of those sleeper recruits.
I remember when Ken-Yon Rambo visited Columbus for his official visit. Being from LA, he said he expected to see cows walking around Columbus.
Those days are long gone.
With the possible exception of Austin, there is no city even close to the size of Columbus where college sports are king. Columbus is a pearl compared to other "college towns."
Places like LA and NYC can keep their 7 hour commutes and ridiculously priced real estate.
To err is human. Really sucking requires having yellow stripes on your helmet.
That was an epic face plant
I believe they teach a class in face planting in the General Studies Program.
So if the NCAA kicks California schools out does that mean they'll also no longer make use of their locations (re: Rose Bowl)?
I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...
Maybe for the CFP but the NCAA does not directly control the bowl games. Now, they might threaten any team from outside California with sanctions if they agree to play there but I suspect that the NCAA is going to have to quickly rethink their position because other states will follow suit. As they say, when California sneezes the rest of the country catches a cold.
I just always find it funny how we act like the NCAA is a governing board put in place by our alien overlords, or even a legal ruling body that must be obeyed lest we get vaporized or jailed. The schools created it themselves and could very well get rid of it.. or just ignore them and go about their football season if they wanted to.
They’re akin to an HOA though. Maybe most don’t want it anymore but you need a huge majority to get rid of it.
Maybe not a huge majority...just a few of the Power 5 conferences could do the trick.
California sneezes a LOT.
Sadly, yes it does.
Ir would rub some salt into the wound.
It would also make Rose Bowl more of a neutral site.
Both are okey dokey with me.
I would think the NCAA would fold or risk becoming irrelevant. The PAC 12 commisioner, Larry Scott,. made women's tennis into a moneymaker and he knows how to create a sports powerhouse. He was behind the Pac-12 B1G football matchup plan that fell apart with realignment but was still a great idea and would have been very lucrative as well as help both conference's reputations. Kick their Cali schools out and I would not be surprised to see him pull together a Power 5 organization that leaves the NCAA or makes the NCAA capitul;ate.
Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.
Hey Hove no way.
Another couple big markets will make the same move. It’ll be over before it begins for the ncaa
While I hate that it is ttun I am happy that Midwest baseball is able to show you don't have to be from the south or far west to do well. And our Buckeyes owned them this year.
Shelly Meyer is not pleased. Palm tress and beaches we're in her future.
This is absolutely going to turn into a gigantic game of chicken between the NCAA and California lawmakers...
Completely aside from the NCAA issue, California lawmakers, without debate, are the dumbest group of legislators in America... and that is really saying something.
When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's
Leave politics off 11w. You make yourself sound stupid
Challenge accepted, Washington legislature says "hold my beer."
Let's not leave out the final state on the West Coast. Just saw Oregon legislators have fled the State in an attempt to block a House vote -- i.e., a critical part of their respective jobs. "A" for creativity, I'll say.
Not going to get to far into politics here, but even though the California legislature makes some ridiculous laws, there's other state legislatures that are probably dumber.
That's a Buckeye touchdown!
Chase Young's sophomore season changed in a flash. Like you said Kevin, if last season was just okay, look out this year.
Thank you for an actual FOOTBALL comment.
If someone on the opposite side of chase young makes it so he gets the occasional 1 on 1 on passing downs, then he should be getting after the QB like a total savage
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
"Thrown into the fire"
That play wasn’t going anywhere, even if he pulled it and ran or threw it.
I'm glad last year's defense picked that play to be functional. It was the only time all year.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
I'm really hoping we can get Robinson or Knighton in this class. I love the burst from both backs. Not as concerned about what stars they are (even though Robinson is a 5 star). Also, I believe Mook ie Cooper would be a huuuge get. I put him in the same breath as Fleming. He's a threat to take it to the house every time he touches the ball..
I forgot, I found myself not rooting for Vandy in yesterday's baseball game. I agree with the above that it's time to show that the Midwest can play the game too.
Big10! Big10! ??
That's a no.
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Chimdi’s restaurant is located in a really rough neighborhood of North Linden. I’m glad he’s been able to have a successful restaurant (at least according to the reviews and the length it has been open) with a relatively affordable menu for the people in that area. It’s also extremely hard to find a good po’ boy in Columbus.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
Apparently they’re opening another Pit BBQ on Parsons really soon and are aiming to add another restaurant in North Columbus. Good for them.
It’s hard to find a good poboy outside of Louisiana.
Eh, a lot of the people who flooded to the North from the Great Migration increased the culinary standards up here. Louisiana is the standard, but Cleveland has some really great places to get a good po’ boy. Columbus actually has a lot of choices, but everything is kind of spread out in variety. There isn’t a lot of speciality outside of German Village.
Do they have muffelatas? I was nothing but poor when I lived in New Orleans. I found exactly ONE place in Houston that does a decent poboy.
we’re 6 hours away & have all the Katrina relocations.
I live right on the edge of Cajun country.
Ain’t 1 single good Poboy in Houston, TX that I know of that compares to any in Lafayette, Baton Rouge, or New Orleans.
Sorry, Rajun Cajun, in the loop. I know you catered our wedding preview sort of thing - you do Many Things Very well w/ Cajun food. I think the poboys are not the same.
Give me California every single time... I could do without Texas, Georgia, and Alabama though!
The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced
or mississippi or louisiana. i'll keep georgia bc atlanta is good
I could be talked into keeping Georgia on the Atlanta argument!
I really respected Chimdi’s strength and honesty about his path up to this point. I really felt what it must be like to end football and then say now what? He’s obviously a good, hard working man and he makes good choices. A great support system around him too. I wish him all the luck in the world. Humble guy who’s doing his best with his family it seems.
All I know is if you got them by the balls, squeeze them until they bleed
So treating your children like they are people is good for both the parent and the child....who would have thought?
More bs from another director of recruiting M.Farrell playing the same game Wiltfong does. USU Texas and Buckeyes on my mind but heard the Buckeyes lead. Tomorrow's report there maybe a change of heart looks like Texas. Keep your yap shut unless you have some meat. They just love to mess with fan bases. Love to know how to become a director of a recruiting service.
Haven’t commented since the Rose Bowl. Things seem to have gone downhill - just like California. And yes, I have been there recently - just last week. When you have homeless people on every street corner around Disneyland, you have a problems. Lots of problems.
Warm climates appear to have more homeless. It’s easy to live on the streets when there’s no frost. Here in Florida seems this way too. Goes with the climate.
Cali has Highest population (over 35 mill) with 4th best state economy. Hard to pull off.
Ive never understood why people move there with expenses being so high. But they still do in droves.