Skull Session: Mike Conley's Value to the Jazz, Mike Weber's Quest to Back Up Ezekiel Elliott, and Jeff Hafley's Search for Safeties

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soldierdad's picture

Other than under Withers I can’t really think of weak safety play.  We’re usually talented enough.  So if the problem was more Grinch than our talent I’d expect to see improvements no matter who is alongside Fuller.  When you just start naming names as safety possibilities it sure seems like the problem was Grinch, but it was dumbfounding how bad natural things, like taking an angle to the ball, or being deep as the deepest man, were non existent.

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

Schiano was the problem last year, Grinch came in and wasn't given control as he thought he would have when Schiano was originally on his way out.  The defense is full of high level talent, but once one guy misses an assignment, the next guy tries to make up for it therefore missing his own, and it's a domino effect.  That's why you saw so many breakdowns.  Everyone was constantly out of position, and it seemed as if they were thinking.  Blame Schiano, not Grinch.  Grinch came in as a guy that was going to bring a new look to the defense, then got his legs cut out from under him.  

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Spaghetti's picture

Not to mention, hopefully some classic Buckeye linebacker Silver Bullet blitz packages can help take pressure off of any safety.

If Coach Washington can get these guys in the right spot (and not committing to the wrong spot, or wandering around with a load in their pants), then this defense will dramatically improve. Every other position gets a major boost just by improving the weakest link.

I have confidence in our DBs to do their part.  B.I.A. BABY!

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

Yeah I think it all comes down to what they ask of the LB unit and how they perform.  The D-line is obviously the strength again.  The secondary at both the CB level and the safety/Bullet level have the guys to do big things.  If the LB unit improves (both from a coaching standpoint and an execution standpoint on the players part) then last year will be but a blip on the radar.  And I exclude Harrison from that theory, he did just about everything he could last year given the circumstances.

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IGotAWoody's picture

I don't buy the blame Schiano line of thinking. Schiano has a proven track record of success on the largest stages, Grinch's claim to fame was taking a terrible WSU defense and making it much less terrible. While that's great, it doesn't mean he has the credentials of success at the highest levels of college football.

Grinch came in, took over coaching the safeties, and the safety play took a step back. So he gets some of the blame. Truly, I think the problem was that Grinch and Schiano did not see eye to eye, and when that happens, chemistry suffers and the play on the field suffers. So blame goes to multiple coaches, including Meyer, as he's the head coach and ultimately in charge of getting everyone on the same page.

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

This is where the problem lies and goes back to my original post.  Yes it is absolutely on a collection of coaches.  But to expect Grinch to come in and throw his weight around when Schiano was all of a sudden staying is asking too much.  Can't put too much blame on a guy that had one year under a dysfunctional staff (and by all reports, it was dysfunctional) when all levels of the defense had glaring problems...that points more to the guy running the entire defense rather than a position coach.

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BbBnD's picture

Bad angles and tackling are fundamentals and have nothing to do with scheme. I’m not saying the scheme was great and Schiano and other coaches are blameless, but fundamentals went to shit under Grinch. That isn’t Schiano’s fault and it wasn’t an issue in past seasons under Schiano. 

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

The entire safety group that Grinch had were players that were there before he got there.  You think they had all of the fundamentals and angles locked while Schiano was coach then those skills completely vanished because of a coach?  Or was it because Grinch and his scheme were kicked to the side when Schiano decided to stay?  I mean a guy that was a big up and comer D-Coordinator was hired at OSU, then all of a sudden was basically demoted to safeties coach because Schiano was spurned by TN.

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BbBnD's picture

Yeah, they were there the year before and didn’t look like trash the year before either. Fundamentals are practiced every year because they absolutely do deteriorate if they aren’t regularly and properly practiced. Again, scheme doesn’t impact fundamentals like angles and tackling. You can have an awful scheme, but still have players capable of taking good angles and tackling. To further this point, if Schiano's scheme is as trash as you say, and to be fair I’m not a fan of the scheme either, how was Webb able to look like a solid starter the year before despite not being an nfl talent? I don’t disagree Schiano’s scheme was ill fitted at the college level because it does rely on a lot of talent, but he was able to make players like Webb serviceable in that scheme despite not being AA talents. Even Fuller looked worse last year. The only thing that changed was his position coach. 

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BuckeyeBen7.7's picture

Schiano didn’t seem to be the problem when Hooker was back there. Or when Fuller and Webb were together. Safety play didn’t take a step back till Grinch came, so I gonna go ahead and put the blame on him.

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

Great players make coaches look good.  Hooker is a one in a million, never played significant time, played one year and became a first round draft pick.  We don't base our conclusions off of the random outliers.  But your argument can be turned right back around against Schiano.  The guys in the secondary were there before Grinch ever came to OSU.  What does that show for the coaches that have been there since the kids got on campus?  That they weren't developed.  Schiano also had his hands in splitting the rooms up, so safeties weren't in with CB's, and they had no cohesion with the LB unit either.  Behind the scenes, that was a major problem last year, you could tell that the safeties didn't know what the CB's were doing, and neither of them knew what the LB's were doing....that was spearheaded by Schiano wanting to keep them split up.  Then Hafley comes in this year and says, we are all going to be in the same room, and therefore on the same page.  And I think that will pay out in a big way.

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BuckeyeBen7.7's picture

Who do you think took Hooker and in one year turned him from a backup who never played into an All American? Who made Fuller an All Big Ten caliber player who we thought could be an All American last year? Schiano was developing guys, and that development stopped when Grinch took over.

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

So Grinch went from a guy running a defense for 3 years to a guy that couldn't coach because he sucks?  Or was it because he was supposed to be bringing his defensive philosophy to run the OSU defense, then Schiano isn't leaving and Grinch is told ok now you coach the safeties and you can be d-coordinator?  They had two totally different coaching philosophies, which isn't going to work when you have them as co-DC's.  You think Schiano had nothing to do with the safeties?  

Also, Malik Hooker was a freak athlete that put it all together in that one season.  Anyone could have been the safety coach at that point and nobody was holding him back.  Kind of like Michael Thomas and how he was held back in college but is now setting the NFL on fire.  Sometimes the players transcend the coaches.

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BuckeyeBen7.7's picture

I think the safeties were excellent under a Schiano, but crap under Grinch. Grinch wanted to be the D coordinator, and when he wasn’t able to, his coaching went to shit. It sounds bad, but look at some of the things that happened:

-Grinch immediately left after the season to be a D coordinator at Oklahoma, he didn’t even stick around to see if he was going to be retained.

-There was a high level DB recruits that literally had to ask us to recruit him, he said Grinch never acted like he wanted to talk to him.

-You never heard players or recruits talk about how much they love Grinch, while they often said that about Schiano.

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Extramedium's picture

But they didn’t look bad before Grinch arrived. You can call him an up-and-comer because a bad pac 12 defense marginally improved under his watch, and a very bad big 12 defense may or may not marginally improve again next year.. the fact is our very good defense that Schiano previously oversaw took a nose-dive when he got here.

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TURD_BUCKET's picture

Schiano had the #3 (2016) and #15 (2017) scoring defense in the country.  There was a disconnect last year for sure.  That's on the head coach.

“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden

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Bucks19's picture

So two years ago, Schiano was the best DC in CFB. Last year Grinch was the next greatest DC in Ohio State football history. Now they both sucked?

Seriously people. No wonder our fan base gets bashed. 

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SilverHaven's picture

Haskins dialing up McLaurin. Yowzer!
I hope we see a lot more of that.
Hov prob. does, too.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Dillon G's picture

I like Arby's too.

#walkaway

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MichiBuck12's picture

There is a group of guys frequent the local Browns Backers bar on sundays. One is a Redskins fan, one is a Giants fan, One is a Cowboys fan, and one is an Eagles fan. And those guys are hilarious. They all cheer for their team and against all the others. Its actually more fun to sit with them than it is the dozen or so Browns fans that show up every week. Every time I see Dwayne Haskins highlights from offseason workouts I think about how excited the Redskins fan must be. My goal for this season is get those guys to let me in their group text.

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Sanitarian2's picture

I thought we were going to get the "A Priest, a Rabbi and a Bear walk into a bar" joke there for a second.

Sani

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

I’m hoping we don’t see a bunch of the same BS as last year at the safety position. Reliving a stretch of games where you’re fielding guys who aren’t ready and you have an all conference level player sitting on the sideline... no thanks 

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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semperfibuck's picture

“It's been a wild, wild ride for the kid we once thought was just going to suit up and play for the Buckeyes, but it's probably going to pay off.”

Surely you jest? Probably going to pay off? How do sneaker companies afford to pay some kid that most of us never heard of, and surely don’t care about (as a bball player) $14M? If he collects ¼ of that it is more than most of us will earn in a lifetime... even with our college degrees. Yes, I’d say the kid is pretty smart and already successful. Good luck to him... though I couldn’t care less about his story. 

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BucksHave7's picture

Thank you for highlighting that......And that is just one more of many countless examples of why colleges dont ever need to pay kids to play college sports. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Countless examples? The number of student-athletes who toil in anonymity and work at perfecting their craft without any hope of ever cashing out professionally is countless. Conversely, there are plenty of lists of all the people who played in the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, MLS, and WNBA and were not only paid for their prowess but also qualify for a pension. For every Michael Phelps who became a media darling and millionaire, there are countless swimmers who put in the same amount of time and effort but walked away with nothing. Why is paying them a small stipend such a threat to the NCAA’s and it’s members’ Draconian economic system? One simple reason: not every school can afford it and just as Levi’s jeans and rock ‘n rock brought the Soviet Union to its knees, so too would paying athletes destroy college sports’ fragile financial balance. The top tier schools like Ohio State, Texas and Alabama have the means to figure it out (but would also have to cut some non-revenue sports) but it would be death knell for the next tier, not just Group of 5 schools like Ohio U and Akron but also weaker P5 schools like Iowa State, Northwestern and Wake Forest that already operate in or near the red and cannot afford that added expense. And that, to me, would be a tragedy.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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BucksHave7's picture

College exists to get a college degree.

The average SAT score at tOSU is 1338.   How many football players would have gotten into the school without their football abilities?   Getting into a great college you coundnt have gotten into isnt enough?

Its a choice.  No one is forcing a swimmer to swim in college. 

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Steel City Buckeye's picture

I don't understand the rational in paying student athletes just for the sake of paying them. I just read the OSU spends over $110,000 per athlete per year across all sports which is 3 times higher than what is spent on regular paying students. I get that certain football and basketball stars can and I believe should be able to cash in on their brand but even the vast majority of athletes in those sports are not going pro. Take for example women's hockey, the only pro league is the National Women's Hockey League which has a Salery cap of 100k per team per year, significantly less than what OSU provides its amateur hockey team. Why should OSU or any college pay these non revenue generating athletes more than their respective pro leagues? Again if a booster or apparel company want to pay an athlete then they should be free to do so but Universities shouldn't be forced to pay.

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BucksHave7's picture

All these kids want everything for free today, they think they are a special generation that warrants that.  When in fact, they are the opposite.  Highest rate that still lives at home in their 20s, and least amount ever in their 401k's. 

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Steel City Buckeye's picture

And baby boomers have bankrupted this country.

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BucksHave7's picture

I dont follow, Please explain.  Im sure you realize are the richest generation in the world.  

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Steel City Buckeye's picture

$22 Trillion debt... That kind of attitude of "we'll cash in and make our kids and grand kids pay for it" is exactly the problem.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

You realize it’s not a level playing field, right? That the 3x factor includes the tuition, room and board that comes with an athletic scholarship, right?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Extramedium's picture

And many would think that’s pretty good compensation 

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Steel City Buckeye's picture

Yes I realize that. What's your point They're spending twice as much for these kids to play games then they are on actually educating them.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Oh, I just meant purely in a basketball sense. He’s already set momentarily.

Knarcisi's picture

I'd actually like to see the best 5 on the field, in the secondary, if the guys can make the transition.  I'm sure the staff is already working a plan to get guys ready.  I think Wade is a good CB, but could make an even better S.  I think Arnette is a better fit at S.  If, and that's a big "if" Arnette can clean up the mistakes and play a strong CB for us, I'd like to see Wade at the other S.  If he cannot, then Wade takes the spot and have Arnette compete with Proctor (aad maybre even Riep - see below) at S.  Speaking of, if Proctor lives up to his billing, there should be no reason he can't beat out Pryor and Wint.  I'd like to see Riep get a shot somewhere, too.  The guy seems to be able to play.  I've had my criticisms of him, but it's fair to say that if Arnette cannot make the needed improvements, he needs to sit in favor of someone that can play.  

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iowabuckeyes's picture

With the sudden introduction and rise of the transfer portal, coaches have to be extra careful about what they do and say because it won’t take much for some backups to get up and leave when you know you need roster depth to survive the season. They want players to stay engaged and encouraged and the best way to do that is to not say anything that could lead someone to leave. Coaches have navigate a different minefield than a year ago when Urban Meyer had no problems naming names.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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allinosu's picture

It's why I like the transfer portal. It gives athletes an better option if they are wasting away in their current situation. I think as a whole there will be a lot more players seeing the field earlier than up 45 late in the 4th. 

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Steel City Buckeye's picture

Agreed Allinosu. If the NCAA says these guys can't be paid then they for dam sure should be able to change their environment. 18 year old kids make mistakes and coaches getting paid millions lie straight to their face all the time. I personally don't care if OSU loses some depth if it means a kid gets to play ball some where else when he doesn't have a shot of seeing the field at OSU unless something bad happens. If they don't want to compete I also don't want them taking up a scholarship/roster spot.

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BucksHave7's picture

Nothing on the Zach Smith latest news? 

I know I dont follow him, but he says he knows a postal worker that claims Urban has been getting certified mail from USC and Zach believing USC/Urban HC thing could be real.   

I personally think someone will snag Urban as an AD and it could be that. But as afar as a HC, what could another school offer Urban that tOSU wouldnt match?

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ScarletGray43157's picture

Is that you Zach?

In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...

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Knarcisi's picture

His casts drop on Mondays, and Kevin has reported on relevant info from this past week.  I also think it's wise to take it in doses as far as the site is concerned.  I'm listening to the podcast and enjoying it.  I also buy a lot of what he is saying.  But not sure I buy this.  I'm trying to think what in the world would be needed to be sent via certified mail.  That would be something like a contract to sign, which would not be sent at this time.  Maybe a confidentiality agreement if they are wanting to have some discussions ... maybe.

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MichiBuck12's picture

I doubt it would be anything official like that. All that stuff can be signed digitally now. When I closed on my house a few years ago I did pretty much the entire thing on my phone. I only met with my closing agent face to face to get the keys. And for that reason I don't think that tidbit from Zach makes a lot of sense. Besides, they wouldn't negotiate directly. Thats what Urban has an agent for. I mean, I have no doubt that USC will come calling when its time, and I'm sure Urban will at least listen. But I wouldn't put too much stock in some mail going back and forth.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

100% spot on, from Docusign to negotiating through his agent. That’s not to say Urban to USC won’t happen but there’s no reason to send him anything certified. I question the credibility of Smith’s USPS source, if such a person even exists.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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milhouse4588's picture

You're assuming tOSU would want to match an offer another school makes for Urban. Urban isn't going to another school as anything but a HC. I don't see him being an AD.

To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

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BucksHave7's picture

The AD role would give Urban, something he has never done before, expanded responsibility across all sports, visibility and minimal travel and stress.   

Plus isnt USC and Fox's NCAA GameDay location both in LA?

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Kevin Harrish's picture

That came out on Monday and I chose not regurgitate that one. “I heard from a postal worker who said he delivered mail to his house” is just rumor peddling that you’d read on a message board (even considering the source), in my humble opinion, and very far from the legitimate insight he sometimes has on there.

Also, since when do colleges recruit head coaches through certified mail? Especially when they currently have a head coach? Is his phone broken? Does he not have a computer? And why would it come to his house? Did he fire his agent?

BucksHave7's picture

Does a first time Athletic Director use an agent?

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Yes. His agency represents him in everything. It’s not like he would have to find a new agent to become an athletic director. He’s still signed to an agency (that represents athletic directors, too), even though he’s retired from coaching. It’s not like it’s a real estate agent that stops representing you once you have a house.

BucksHave7's picture

Thanks.  I didnt know. 

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Kevin Harrish's picture

His agency is actually the same agency that represents Dwayne Haskins and Ryan Day. That's totally irrelevant, just a little fun fact.

blueblazer22's picture

I am certain that Newbury College is not the only one that is shutting down due to budget issues, but that would still have to absolutely suck to be a student who then has to start somewhere else in the middle of their academic journey. 

Hafley is saying exactly what I want him to be saying, but that said I hope the coaching staff has some idea by now of who is best suited to play the different roles, even if they aren't telling us yet. The talent should be there so make it work. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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DCDDC's picture

Only 72 days untill kick off Saturday.

Go Bucks!!!

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allinosu's picture

Do you know the date fall practice begins? I only ask because according to the scholarship count on here, the count is one over at 86 and I was under the impression it had the be 85 by the first practice.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

I believe it does have to be at 85 by the start of Fall Camp. It is possible that, if someone doesn't transfer, a walk-on turned scholarship player could lose his scholarship before the start of Fall Camp.

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

So Fuller is a given and then we have the likes of Wade, Pryor, Wint and even Hooker and others, in the wings. I’ll trust the “best 11” will be out there. I’m just hoping to see Proctor somewhere, sometime. Practically an embarrassment of riches.

"You have to play with emotion, you can't let emotion play with you." - Ryan Day

 

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MassiveAttack's picture

Does anyone know why Mike Weber, who had a 3rd round grade, slipped all the way until the 7th round?  I wouldn't really have any questions if he was a late round grade, then was selected in the 7th.  Something must have happened between the grading and the actual draft.  I remember reading a quote from him along the lines of, "some things happened that were out of my control."

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iowabuckeyes's picture

First, that was the Cowboys’ grade and they could’ve had a lot of other players with third round or better grades on their board or other positions than RB that were higher priorities. Second, not every team needed a running back—only 25 were drafted, fewer than one per team, and the Cowboys took two of them in Tony Pollard (4th round) and Weber.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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DCDDC's picture

My guess would be size and/or durability being suspect.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

My educated speculation is that it had little to do with his play on the field, but by all accounts it seems like the cowboys believe they got a steal.

southalabamabuckeye's picture

Best wishes to Weber as he works to make the Cowboys as Zeke's backup. I hope that happens.

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ToTheHouse's picture

Baker Mayfield Has Brutally Honest Comment About Texas QB Sam Ehlinger

“Westlake is a great program, but the two best quarterbacks to come out of there are Drew Brees and Nick Foles. Sam can stay down there in Texas,” Mayfield said. “That will stir the pot. He doesn’t like me and I hope he knows I don’t like him either.”

Yes 5:59 Skulls are pro Buck FB. Yes this can be mod moved or removed to; Mod: "put this on a other news forum." But since bake planted a midfield dagger & I'm a by the lake homer, & if you've checked lately the Brown helmets are being given preseason *lofty status* via the talking heads...their Heis qb has proved last season to back his mouth.

I like.

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jpfbucks01's picture

There is no doubt that Mike Conley is a talented player. His issue has always been durability.

This past season marked the first time in 4 years that he played in at least 85% of his team's games. And he has not played in at least 90% since 2012-13 or 6 years ago.

He has missed 9 or more games in 7 of the last 8 years and missed at least 12 games in 6 of those years. This from a guy who hasn't been in a post season game ie extending his season in 3 years and only played in 21 in the last 6 years. So not like he has put the kind of wear and tear on his body as say Curry did playing at least 15 extra games in the post season each of the last 5 years.

So if Conley can stay on the court and not get bit by the injury bug again, he will improve Utah, otherwise, it may be a wash as they gave a ton for him

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

 Beatles naysayers point out that a lot of the innovations of the 60s weren’t theirs, that they tended to be sparked by others’ ideas – from Bob Dylan’s lyricism to the Band’s rootsy, back-to-basics approach to the vast debt to black American music that runs through their catalogue – but, aided by the fact that they were just better songwriters and more alive to the possibilities of the studio-as-extra-instrument than anyone else, the Beatles tended to hone those ideas to their point of greatest effect.

Mustn't also forget the influence (or even cross-pollination) the Beach Boys had on The Beatles as well. Sgt. Pepper was influenced by Pet Sounds. And if The Fab Four had not existed, some other band from the British Invasion would have picked up the flag and marched on to America, maybe The Who or The Stones.

https://www.culturesonar.com/beach-boys-and-beatles-inspiration/

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Hovenaut's picture

Well stated, GTH.

There's no overlooking the impact the Fab Four had on rock music history, but as they are cited as a great influence it's important to note who influenced them - predecessors and contemporaries alike.

I've spent more time listening to The Who and The Stones over time than I have the Beatles...but I will say I had to come around to the later (Rubber Soul on) music. My mother was (is) a big fan, especially the early years...took me some time to warm up to the Beatles and understand how important they were (from songwriting, to musicianship, to their evolution...all in the span of roughly a decade).

The Beach Boys reference (Pet Sounds) is spot on...and a happy 79th birthday to Brian Wilson.

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jpfbucks01's picture

So my take on the Beatles. There is no doubt about their influence on rock and roll and other artists. No one can take that from them as even the concept of a "rock band" ie 4 essentially equal contributing members really starts with them. Most before had been bands of person X and the so and so's like Bill Haley and the Comets, Buddy Holly and the Crickets, etc ie a clear lead person.

That all said, they were essentially a pop band similar to the Bobby Darin, The Righteous Bros,  and Frankie Avalon except, and this is a big difference, they played their own instruments so more similar to earlier rock artists like Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, and Chuck Berry, etc. But style wise they were musically often closer to the pop singers of the time.

Their debut album (Please Please Me) included 6 cover songs in the 14 total songs including "Twist and Shout" released 2 years earlier, "Anna", released the previous year, "Chains" released the year prior, "Boys" released 3 years earlier, "Baby It's You" released 2 years earlier, "A Taste of Honey" released 2 years earlier all by other artists in the pop space including acts like the Shirelles

Although given George Martin's influence they often more a bit more inventive musically than other pop bands, they didn't really stretch what was considered Rock and Roll, until at the earliest Hard Day's Night in 1964 but more completely on Rubber Soul at the end of 1965 early 66. By this time other acts like the Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, The Who, The Stones, The Kinks, The Yardbirds, The Animals, The Beach Boys, The Byrds, The Pretty Things, The Zombies, etc had already released albums that were stretching conventional boundaries, so at this point the Beatles became influenced by these interests and started including them in their music

Even Bob Dylan's Highway 61 Revisited pre-dates Rubber Soul as is an acknowledged big influence on them.

So to their credit, they allowed themselves to be influenced by these sources and to my mind made them a better band.

My personal taste is that prior to Rubber Soul much of their music is fairly mundane pop, but after that, they made a significant amount of good music. I prefer a hard rock style and hence more into the Stones, Kinks, Yardbirds from the era and especially Zeppelin, Hendrix and Deep Purple a few years later

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Hovenaut's picture

That's a comment and a half...well said, JPF, I feel the same.

The Beatles are a real anomaly for me. Most bands with longevity that I care for I'm usually a fan of the early stuff - let's say U2, just as an example. In the Beatles case, as I alluded to, I'm listening more to their catalog from the back half of their run. And they were absolutely influenced by others as well, and it was what they were able to do based on those influences, how they evolved and interpreted into their own music, that appealed to me.

I'm more of a classic rock guy as well - my mother's interest in the British Invasion helped lead me towards the Yardbirds, John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, The Animals, and onto the Who, Stones, Zeppelin, and others you've listed.

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

Wow. Reads like a Rolling Stone magazine article. Very interesting analysis, Jpf.

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DCDDC's picture

In light of all of this fine analysis so well conveyed all I can say is, if the Beatles come on the radio I am more likely to turn it up than to change the chanel.

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Not_Sure's picture

Reading the Cleaning the Glass section made me think of this

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mugbucket's picture

Dude got pwned by a mime. Hilarious!

+1

Despite the high cost of living, it still remains popular.

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milhouse4588's picture

I had read about that McLaurin catch in a few places and figured some of it was hyperbole. After watching the catch...how did he actually catch it? That was nuts.

Haskins to McLaurin is going to be a great partnership for the next few years.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater's picture

My favorite part is watching the DB's reaction - when he sees McLaurin with the ball he does a double take and you can almost hear him saying "how the hell did you catch that?".   He just kind of gives a helpless half shrug at the end too, you almost feel bad for the defender, haha.

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Tony Stark's picture

Did McLaurin attend The Xavier School for Gifted Youngsters before high school?  I keep watching that video to see how he did it and the only assumption I can make is that he phased his arms through the DB to get that ball.  Great post of the pic Kevin and a "good" reference to teleporting.  But actually that skill is phasing as opposed to a full body teleport.  Now excuse my while I go in the backyard and practice my lightsaber fight moves for the next Orlando Comicon.

Tony Stark

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letsgobucks's picture

Is the bullet going to be on the field THAT much that we have to find another safety? My expectation for the bullet is its used similar to a nickel. So can't White still play safety, move to bullet when needed with (probably Proctor) coming in at safety in this package? Unless the bullet will be more than a package, I guess I'm missing why we need a whole new safety..

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Kevin Harrish's picture

It sounds like that’s still up in the air, but I would expect bullet to be a big part of the defense and not just a slightly-used package. Mattison said there might be times where they’re in bullet the entire game, depending on the opponent. It’s just a matter of finding what works right now, but it definitely seems like they want another first-team safety.

Buck298's picture

Count me as not worried about the safety play. We got some good young athletes. More than one will step up. Once that light bulb comes on, it will be good. 

Of course I’m always the hopeless optimist. 

Send the Earth Reverberating

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DCDDC's picture

UV for optimism.

m GO BLOW!!!

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DCDDC's picture

UV for optimism.

m GO BLOW!!!

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Bringthejuice's picture

Interesting article about the author’s inheritance and the economy. I, too, have an older relative that concerted about 75% of his total wealth into gold and silver for the exact same reasons 

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moopdawg's picture

Can someone please clarify this about Bazley?  "...as he signed $14 million deal with New Balance interned with the company from January til March."

Does this mean the kid got 14 mil to be an intern?  What the hell, man!!!!!?????  I'll fetch coffee all day for a cool 500 grand.  Please show me the application.

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OsuSuperman's picture

He signed a shoe deal for $14 million.

Go Bucks!

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BuckEif4Life's picture

Two 1,000-yard rushers from Ohio State sounds like one hell of a one-two punch. I can't wait until they add J.K. Dobbins next season. Hell, Carlos Hyde will be a free agent too. Let's just get the band back together.

Haha I love it. I still don't understand why the browns gave him up. Then again I don't understand a lot of things that team does. 

We've always had the best damn band in the land...
- Jim Tressle

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