(Looking Ahead and Beyond:)The Horse Shoe (Nearing 100 Years)

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Leonhard's picture

No, just no. I like it as it is. It should never die.  Ive been to games.  I've played football there.  I've played ultimate frisbee there.  I've run the stadium steps there.  All with fond memories.  Figure out how to keep it.  So it has been said. So it shall be done.  This is my command.  

FWIT - if only that worked at home.

Leonhard

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mr.green's picture

Never. Absolutely never. it needs constant attention (and could use some upgrades now). But that is too special a place. Irreplaceable. 

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Hovenaut's picture

Good topic of discussion,  one I'd imagine will come up in the seasons to come.

(Added to the title, 66)

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gobucks1966's picture

Yes mine was very bland TY

Denny

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D56GoBucks's picture

If Sox ownership was able to figure out how to keep Fenway alive and better than ever, the school can figure out how to preserve The Shoe. 

"Anything easy ain't worth a damn"

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LCT's picture

I don't know why it wouldn't last 100 more with proper maintenance. Every resource imaginable is at the school's disposal.

Lifetime vs. UM: L 8-1, C 7-0, T 4-0

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NewPhilaFan's picture

The arena in Verona, Italy is still functioning for performances today although the stone seats are a bit hard.  It was built by the Romans over 2000 years ago.

Let's Go Bucks

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Rocket Man's picture

Many of their roads still work to this day too ... I think any Roman construction manager who proposed orange barrels would have ended up in the arena, fighting a lion with that barrel.

Varys: I've always hated the bells. They ring for horror, a dead king, a city under siege. 
Tyrion: A wedding. 
Varys: Exactly.

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NewPhilaFan's picture

The Romans also had cement/concrete.  The knowledge disappeared with the fall of their empire and although folks knew that the Romans used it, they didn't figure out how until how until the 1850s in Portland, England hence the reason we call it Portland cement.

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Knarcisi's picture

Lasting 

Construction 

Talk 

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Boomer's Ghost's picture

How much of the current shoe is actually 100 years old? At this point it’s going to be an entirely new building every 25 years lol. 

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

That's fascinating stuff, BB. I think I remember reading this on 11W a long time ago. It does pose interesting questions, which not only could be applied to the venerable Horseshoe, but also iconic structures like Notre Dame cathedral in Paris, and vintage vehicles.

I remember asking a docent at the AMA museum in Pickerington once about an original and rare Harley Davidson EL Knucklehead from the late 1930s they had on display. It belonged to a postman who rode it a bit, and for some odd reason then disassembled the motorcycle, crated it up, and stuffed it in his attic. His heirs found the bike, had it reassembled, and gifted it to the AMA.

My question was whether the bike would be worth more if it was professionally restored (it had faded paint and the nickel finish on the engine was mostly gone). He said it would be worth more as is, and even more valuable if it had not been previously disassembled. IOW, a completely original bike would command top dollar.

I wonder if a decision has been made yet on the restoration approach for Notre Dame cathedral.

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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NewPhilaFan's picture

Wow, GTH, there is actually an Ask Me Anything museum.  I didn't know that.

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

LOL. Or American Medical Association.

http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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NorthBerg's picture

50 years ago I was a Stadium Dorm resident.  The "Rock" was only 47 years old but was deteriorating.   Dirt, crumbling concrete, and rusting girders. My last visit in 2010 showed the new outer shell and the cosmetic changes, which were great, but I have to wonder given the proximity of the Olentangy, if the structural integrity can outlast a rising water table.

Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72

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Knarcisi's picture

They’ve changed the whole flow of the olentangy. Looks like a wildlife sanctuary. Don’t think it’s flowing through there like it once was. 

Fellow Stadium dorm alum here. Except a little under 27 years ago. 

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BrutusB's picture

They’re currently sinking a ton of money into updating the luxury boxes. They’re pretty committed. 

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

Here's some upcoming renovations planned for the old 'Shoe, mostly completed:

Ohio Stadium is one of the most recognizable landmarks in all of sports. Built in 1922 at a cost of $1.3 million and refurbished in 2001 for slightly more than $194 million, the horseshoe-shaped stadium is a monument to college football. Since the opening game against Ohio Wesleyan on Oct. 7, 1922, more than 36 million fans have streamed through the stadium’s portals.

Project timeline:

Design and build process completed in fall 2016.
C-deck concrete restoration takes place in phases from 2017-2020.
Removal of 2,600 seats begins with the 2018 season.
University Suite expansion completed in Aug., 2017.
Suites and loge seats completed in 2019.

https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/ohio-stadium-renovations-planned-for-2017-20/

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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gobucks1966's picture

When they added the seats in the south end zone it wasn't allowed to touch the rest of the stadium for historical reasons and it would take away the Horse Shoe shape. I was just wondering about it all and was hoping someone with a back ground on construction could shed some light on it.

Denny

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GranvilleBuck's picture

The rotunda really looks like they need to do some work on the concrete.  It really needs completely redone.  Some of the towers as well.

I am sure it is mostly cosmetic, but it is a bad look.

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Buckfrombirth's picture

When I started there in '92, there was a sizable crack above the rotunda which became a large hole after the season started. You can probably still see the lighter shade of concrete where it was fixed. This happened in less dramatic ways in other locations too, including a section of railing breaking away from C-deck mid-season. The Shoe was in really bad shape and how it passed structural inspection back then is still a mystery. Thankfully, all of the steel was still good. Even some NW fans we met at the Varsity Club commented how bad the place looked. Here's hoping OSU doesn't let it get like that again.

I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.

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earthpig's picture

I think a lot depends on what happens over the next 15-20 years..  Particularly in regards to the fan experience.. Do they keep the aluminum benches, or do they install seats?  Do fans finally demand unobstructed views? (B deck).  Etc..  Then there's player facilities- what needs to be done with the locker rooms, playing surfaces etc?  I think the Shoe has a lot of life yet, but you just never know with a facility that old.

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allinosu's picture

I just can't accept not having the 'shoe'.

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Spirit's picture

I have thought about this for years.

My 2 cents; stay there as long as possible. (Sacred ground)

Spirit

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

The No. 1 concern would be the condition of all load bearing areas, especially C deck. It's good the Shoe was built at a time when things were built to last. If the concrete in the load bearing areas stay strong and doesnt deteriorate it could last another century IF the maintenance costs don't make it impractical. The Roman highway and aqueduct have lasted 2000+years. Why not the Shoe?

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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rightfield's picture

No one is wanting to see the Shoe ever go away, the question is what if major structural problems happen which they eventually whether you want it to or not. The ground foundation is not the same as the Roman structures mentioned earlier. The Shoe is very close to a river and has a high water table. That in of it self will take many years off the life of a heavy structure like the Shoe. If it goes the way of Yankee Stadium then I would like to see it replicated as near as possible to its current location with a partial roof over the top deck like old Riverfront Stadium or Washington Husky stadium.

Its good to be the king

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Woodywasking69's picture

Let’s not forget it is also on the National Registry of Historic Places. So it isn’t just a tear down and rebuild issue. If they can keep making repairs and prevent the structural integrity there is no reason it can’t last a long time. As for me I’m 50 and hope that I never see the Buckeyes play a home game anywhere else in the 25 to 40 years I have left.

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JTFor President2016's picture

As long as it can stand, man. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if we see major overhauls in the future. We know attendance is dropping across college football. Thankfully, it hasn't impacted OSU as badly as some other blue-blood schools. However, that can always change. I could see 10 years from now, a major revamp to add more real seats (instead of bleachers), in order to lure people to the stadium. It seems inconceivable, but I'll be interested to see how much, if any, the donations (and season ticket purchases) to OSU drop off after the baby boomer generation. 

Elliott dots the eye, on this national championship win. 

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Buckeye_Condor's picture

the year is 4019 AD. Buckeye fans still in the Shoe, and michigan still sucks. 

Connor Brown

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