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Dstacify's picture

Until Muhammad proves to be a more consistent shooter he needs to be further down the list. His shooting in the back half of the season last year was just bad and he couldn't finish worth a damn to save his life. Hopefully that slump is firmly behind him by the time next season begins.

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bsk33's picture

I don't really agree with you on the shooting front for Muhammad. As bad as he was the last 15 games or so of the season, he was pretty damn good for the first 20. He still ended up 2nd on the team with a 37.5 % from 3pt range. It's not crazy to think that the high #of mins Muhammad received through January, led to Luther slamming into a Freshmen wall and struggling mightily in February and March. I don't think he will ever be a great outside shooter, but I think between 35-40% from deep would be more than fine, given everything else he brings to the table. Hopefully, the late season slump was a one year thing.

I do think he needs to take the ball all the way to the rim way more often. He has a pretty good first step/cross-over move, but he almost always pulls up for a mid range jumper after he does that. Unless you can make that at a crazy good rate (i.e. Grant Williams from Tennessee), it is not a smart shot to take on a regular basis.

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seyekcuB's picture

Players can make a big jump from age 18 to 20. Especially in this program with a new coach who clearly is more interested in developing talent than the Matta teams. There is a great weight room in the woody, hit it up.

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Dubs's picture

Andre Wesson is a top 3 player

Dubs

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wigmon's picture

an argument can certainly be made for that and if I were doing a rating of last years team after the end of the season, I would have put him at #3 and ahead of washington and muhammed.  Its my opinion that washington and muhammad are likely to improve more in this off season and that they will benefit from improved PG play and will not have to look to create as much which is something they were forced to do this past season.  If andre is a top 3 player, then I think we are looking at being a borderline top 25 team.  I think he will play a valuable role on our team, but I don't see a guy likely to make an all B1G team.  also, it seems to be a popular opinion that he is a really good defender, but he had the worst d-rating on the team last year.  Thats not to say I think he is a bad defender, but I see him as just average on that end of the floor especially when asked to guard athletic wings.

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bsk33's picture

Good work, Wigmon. Hard to argue with those rankings. Also difficult for me to see those 1-8 guys not all getting consistent mins. I think all 8 have a strong potential to start, though the only likely locks to start are the Wesson brothers.

Where it really gets interesting is 9-12. I could see a 9-10 man rotation with this team, but that would still leave 2-3 guys on the outside looking in.

My guess is Diallo will play 5-15 mins a game most nights. Just seems like they would have brought in a grad transfer if they thought he couldn't play some somewhat consistent mins as the back-up center. But it also would not completely shock me if he played minimal mins and/or redshirted. Hard to predict a raw, 3 star Freshmen's mins even given the fact there is only one other true center on the team.

Ahrens/Jallow- would not surprise me if it plays out similar to last year, where both players had games and stretches of the season when they played big mins, but both had plenty of games when they did not get off the bench. Gaffney's arrival brings up the possibility of even more inconsistent mins for that duo.

Gaffney- The biggest wildcard on the team in my humble opinion. He has one of the highest ceilings on the team, but how ready will he be ready to play his first year? It's definitely possible he is better than expected and plays 15-20 mins a game, making Ahrens and/or Jallow potential transfer candidates. Or I could see him struggling to get off the bench and becoming a transfer candidate himself. Probably be somewhere in between and have an up and down season like Ahrens and Jallow had last year, but who knows? It will certainly be interesting.

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wigmon's picture

We did look for grad transfer bigs and none materialized.  I think the staff sees diallo as a project and that young gets the lions share of the backup center minutes.  diallo obviously has something to offer physically, but I don't think his basketball IQ is at a high enough level.  With kalebs foul issues he probably won't redshirt, but I do think it would be the best scenario for him.

It was really difficult to project ahrens and jallow.  On the one hand, I could easily see jallow taking more minutes at the 3 if his ball handling improves because his confidence seemed to grow at the end of the season.  ahrens showed a little more athleticism than I expected and with the 3 point line moving back, I think the adjustment will be easiest for him as he clearly has the range.  His question is more on the defensive end and that he is pretty much stuck at 1 position.

agree on Gaffney and am basing my projection on the fact that he was more of a role player this past season in hs.  now it was a very talented hs team, but he was less than consistent on the offensive end.  If something clicks for him over the next 5 months he's certainly capable of being a 20 mpg guy. 

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stxbuck's picture

Interesting list-I certainly can't argue w/ the logic of any of it. Having not seen either, is it fair to say that Liddell has a more polished offensive game than Gaffney right now?

I think Diallo might surprise a lot of people-he had decent stats for a very good HS team, and will be able to contribute of the defensive end immediately. To be honest, I think he might take a lot of minutes away from Young-Young is basically just a jumping jack on the offensive end right now, and he certainly doesn't have the length/wingspan of Diallo on defense.

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Keze's picture

Waiting to see how Oden improves Diallo. Oden could mean a big difference for the Buckeyes this year if he can get Diallo going.

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wigmon's picture

Is Oden going to be on staff at OSU?  He was a student assistant the last couple of years, but now that he's graduated, I think he's looking for a full time coaching position somewhere (and I'm pretty sure its a requirement that you are enrolled in a graduate program to stay on as a graduate assistant).

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