ehhh the Patriots are kinda big too. But I'll take that from my Head Coach any day.
That first quote was from his brother, not Ryan directly. But the whole article focused on roots and home and how that's always been his motivation. It even talks about how he turned down the Oregon OC job because he didn't want to move there despite the promotion and it was with his mentor.
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I like the brother's style.
Great find, TNB.
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It really was a terrific article. In my opinion, if you are going choose one subscription sports site, make it The Athletic, because Ari Wasserman and Bill Landis do an absolutely incredible job writing about the Buckeyes.
I remember when Ari was the most hated reporter at BSB. I've always liked his stuff.
If he wins games, I’ll want him to stay here, as well.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
Beat TTUN soundly, year to year, and his lease shall renew.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
Many OSU fans will still call bullshit on this and say he's simply trying not to burn bridges with his employers (and will still bail on OSU for the NFL the first chance he gets). I however believe him and take him at his word. OSU isn't a typical CFB program that you'd use as a stepping stone to the NFL (in fact I don't believe any OSU head coach has done that since Paul Brown himself). I think if Day is successful he will likely be here for awhile (though the NFL rumors will never stop swirling around him).
Many OSU fans will still call bullshit on this and say he's simply trying not to burn bridges
I've always felt that people who think like that...that's more of a reflection on who THEY are and how they think. They project that onto their thoughts about others.
in fact I don't believe any OSU head coach has done that since Paul Brown himself
Jim Tressel used OSU as a stepping stone to Indianapolis Colts Video Coordinator
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Sure he did. I'm sure a certain show-cause penalty that effectively banned Tressel from ever coaching at the college level again had nothing to do with that lol.
You mean like Penn State?
If a big time college coach does jump to the NFL(no, Kliff Kingsbury does not count), it is usually after he has won a NC or two, made his mark, and is looking for a new challenge-Barry Switzer, Jimmy Johnson, Steve Spurrier, Pete Carroll. If Day has a run at tOSU equivalent to that of any of those guys at their programs, I will happily wish him good luck and thank him for the memories.
Let’s hope it works out for OSU and Day.
I season my simple food with hunger
It's cool that he says that, but it's a little too early to hedge too many bets. We'll see how he fares at OSU first and how fans react to him as he progresses through his first season. It's also one thing to say and another to have a bonafide offer from a team like the Patriots. The luster is still shiny on being the HC at OSU. After a few seasons that may diminish a bit. Anyways, it's cool to say, but I wouldn't put much stock into that yet beyond he's happy right now.
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Speaking of pay sites, this seems like a quality for-pay take. Do you have Venmo or PayPal?
The Patriots without Brady and Belichick there immediately become a significantly less attractive job (which is the reality Day would face if that job opened up since I doubt Brady wants to play for any other HC at this stage in his career). You really think the Pats are going to remain a dynasty with Jarrett Stidham at QB when Brady retires (especially if Belichick is no longer coaching the team)? Not to mention the uncertainty surrounding Robert Kraft's future is no question a cloud hanging over the organization (despite his faults in his personal life choices outside of the NFL Kraft is a fantastic owner who rarely meddles in football decisions and to say his son will be just as good as he is won't be an easy task to live up to).
OSU isn't better than EVERY NFL job no question but it is better than a significant number of NFL jobs (the same could be said for numerous other CFB blue bloods as well).
Who the fuck is hedging bets? This article was a character study and a deep dive on his roots and what shaped his character. Its about his goals and desires and what drives him. ITs not a road map for his career.
Beat tTUN, win the B1G, and he can stay as long as he likes. Don't and it won't be up to him at some point.
ONE Not Done!
If he wins a lot of games, I'm fine whether he leaves in 3 years or 20. Doesn't matter much to me what his long-term plans are, as long as OSU football remains in capable hands. But, because I have a feeling he's going to be a winner and an elite head coach, I'll take the good news that he wants to stay.
I know Meyer, at least at this point, had to call it quits due to health concerns and, despite what the clown drake wanted, was not forced out. Considering how much he loves the program, no way Meyer is handing the reigns over to Day without a national search, if he hasn’t vetted and reflected strongly on Day’s seriousness about being here for the long haul.
The common perception seems to be that Meyer was full of it in regards to his health problems and that he was just looking for an excuse to leave OSU solely because of Drake (despite numerous other people involved with the University being firmly in his corner, Gene most of all). What Meyer choosing to open up a restaurant in Dublin tells me is that he has no desire to leave Columbus anytime soon regardless of whether the USC job opens up or not (and keep in mind LA is a ridiculously expensive place to live). He seems happy being retired and honestly why wouldn't he be. He really has nothing left to prove as a college head coach at this point unless he wants to chase Saban's Natty record (which would take time and likely have him coaching well into his 60s which Meyer has said repeatedly he doesn't want to do).
In all honesty, WTF does that have to do with this thread?
His current position debunks that in an instant, you dont stick around in an administration role of all things if you can't stand the university leadership. Other fans are so caught up in the Florida situation that they make nonsensical conclusions about the guy. While I just see a man that loves OSU and Columbus and someone whose competitive nature gets the best of him.
The common perception seems to be that Meyer was full of it in regards to his health problems and that he was just looking for an excuse to leave OSU solely because of Drake
Look, I know that Drake has cursed the boxer, the Raptors, and other sports teams, but I don’t think he ever had a photo with Urban Meyer.
And if, by chance, you meant Michael Drake, OSU President, then I think your definition of common is much different than mine.
Good he has that mentality. It is what you want to hear. The Patriots thing is probably true in some respects. The NFL is the next level in terms of talent and so on but people that went to a given school will always probably have an interest or passing interest in their teams. The NFL is often very regional in terms of fans and people can stop being fans of a given team. It is hard to change time and not go to a school retroactively.
Just like everyone else, I am hoping for Day's success and longtime tenure here. Assuming the former, it is good to hear that the goal is to remain here for the long term. There are added pressures/duties in the college game that aren't there at the NFL level. Recruiting never stops...ever! Urban was a clearly elite at this portion of the of the job. There also seems to be a number of other non-football factors at the college level, catering to alums, administration and kids parents. Where NFL seems to be much more focused on actual football (I'm sure that I'm discounting other NFL head coaching duties). Day has had a stint in both arenas so I don't think that he will be surprised by demands of being the guy here, but I think that what he enjoys about coaching football is what will ultimately decide where he ends up.
The article addresses that from the perspective of those closest to him. I laugh at some of these posters, who haven't even read the article, but bloviate some kind of judgement on what he will do.
But that wasn't the point of the article nor my reason for posting it. The old saying, "How to make God laugh? Tell him your plans." Obviously that is always in play. This article isn't about what WILL happen, because no one knows. But it IS an article about who Ryan Day IS and what is his long term goal. And THAT is good news.
I read the article. And if you truly are annoyed by people speculating on what Day is most likely to do down the road in his career maybe you should've titled the forum post differently. Just food for thought. The reality is there are fans who are going to think he's not being sincere when he says he wants to stay at OSU and that he's just saying that to keep his employers happy atm. I personally think he means it but at the same time he'll make the decision that best benefits his career. None of us know what that's going to be down the road.
he reality is there are fans who are going to think he's not being sincere when he says he wants to stay at OSU and that he's just saying that to keep his employers happy atm.
And there is no basis for them to come to that conclusion by anything they know other than pulling some deep seated cynicism out of their ass. And that says a hell of a lot more about them than it does Ryan Day.
I laugh at some of these posters who post statements on an article from a pay site that I'm guessing most people aren't interested in paying for, title it "Ryan Day Wants to Stay Here" then complain about the direction that people take the conversation.
So, you're fine with people talking out of their ass. Got it.
I started the thread with a couple of quotes that I found interesting and tried to describe what was said within and what i learned from it. you know, sharing information. I didn't post it for some look at me narcisstic need. I value knowledge and facts. Not halfassed half formed half ignorant opinions If it was up to me, those who do, can go somewhere else.
I didn't think you posted article as a narcissistic look at me post and actually appreciated the info from the article. All I was putting forth is that assuming success here doesn't mean there aren't factors that would be weighed if other opportunities in the NFL arise. Not sure how that equated to "bloviating on some kind of judgement on what he WILL do"
BTW...last I checked all forums are pretty much everyone putting forth their opinions. I'm sure I have expressed some "halfassed" "half formed" or even "ignorant" opinions but even if that is your opinion then you don't have to value my input. However, people expressing their opinions are what people call a discussion. So, get off your high horse!
Just stepping in, even if this shows as a reply to Atl above, as a call for a truce here.
Don't let this offseason get you, it ain't worth it.
I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...
My horse is more of a Shetland Pony. But, I do criticize half assed poorly thought out posts. Its what I do. i try to raise the quality of discussions around here. There are people who's opinions are worth more than others for me. But, if you're going to bring an opinion; bring it strong. Otherwise, as Austin Carr would say:
There are added pressures/duties in the college game that aren't there at the NFL level.
The NFL and CFB are different, to be sure, but I don't agree that college has more pressures.
In college a coach needs to recruit year round, but in the NFL coaches have to rebuild their teams practically every year due to the salary cap and free agency. The only NFL team that has it figured out is the Patriots. In college you have twice as many players as an NFL team and you know you have them for at least 3 years each -- You can stockpile talent and redshirt them. The only thing to keep count of is the number of scholarships. 85 scholarships is still 33 more players than an NFL team has.
Would the Patriots job be better than, say, being the Indiana head coach? No argument. But not if you're the OSU head coach. We have a program that's rolling in money and will spend anything legally to keep the program in the top 5-10 every year. We have the largest CFB fanbase in the country.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
I'm sure Ryan Day and his family are currently 100% confident he will be head ball coach at OSU forever; however, the first time when/if he loses a couple games to TTUN (God help us) or he suffers a couple 4 loss seasons (God help us), and an NFL owner starts whispering sweet nothings in his ear......ALL BETS ARE OFF.
But you can say this about pretty any college coach....in the mean time, I'm not worrying about it, and want to watch him kick some serious tail in Columbus in perpetuity.
The only ways Ryan Day leaves Ohio State is in 15-20 years when it's on his terms or anytime on our terms for whatever reason. Those of you who think he jumps to the NFL or another job is severly disrespecting the value of what it means to be the head coach at OSU. Its THE best job in football and it's not even close.
It sure as hell is a top of the mountain first-time HC job.
I hope you're right about the only way he leaves....but if he ever loses 2 in a row (or one by 40 points) we all know the pitchforks will be out.
but if he ever loses 2 in a row (or one by 40 points) we all know the pitchforks will be out.
Which is why I said he could possibly be gone on our terms but I don't think that will happen.
If he's successful-I expect 8-10 years which seems to be the going average after Woody..
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Woody was one of the youngest tOSU head coaches at 38 when he was hired. Earle was 48 when hired, Cooper was 51, Tressel was 49, and Urban was 48. Ryan Day was hired at 39.
Paul Brown was 33 when hired.
“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman
Why do they get into things about asking coach's if they want to stay here?? Are they going to say no or anything negative. It would be really stupid to put a time period on being here it would kill recruiting down the road. Even at 80+ years old Paterno told recruits he would be there for their entire career at PSU. How can any recruit buy into 4 more years to a man in his 80's he can't promise 4 more minutes at that age. Trust me I'm 70 and in good shape too. I know many just love Tress but TAT GATE was the best thing for Tress the program was sinking if your honest with yourself. The coaching staff has poor and out of brothers who never had a major job and GA's to coach the qb's too it was getting bad. He was old school when he got here and never was going to change either.
Yeah, that program was sinking so far, so fast they were on the verge of being a favorite to play for and possibly win a Natty and for sure had the odds on favorite to win the Heisman.
No way in Hell on any of that but lets agree to disagree.
NO way in hell what? That before May of 2011 when Tressell was fired, tOSU wasn't a favorite to make the BCS Title game? That Terrell Pryor wasn't the preseason favorite to win the Heisman? Because those were both indeed true. Oh, And all those Tressell players went 12-0 in 2012.
Pre-tattgate suspensions you seriously thought the 11' squad was going to stink the joint up? That's crazy talk, imo.
LOL.. So true.. I tell my boss at every annual review I plan on being around another 10 years at least..
Funny... Since 1950 no Ohio St head coach has gone elsewhere to become a head coach elsewhere except for Wes Fesler who quit because of "excessive pressure to win games".
And for clarification, no I don't count Fickell as a head coach, sorry.
"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI
Urban to USC but wouldn't be surprised and heard he is drinking water that Minister gives away on tv late at night.lol
Could someone please translate that to English so I can see what he is trying to say?