Ohio State Quarterbacks Justin Fields, Gunnar Hoak Must Put in Work on Their Own This Summer to Be Ready to Play This Fall

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BrutusB's picture

coaches are not allowed to conduct practices that include throwing and catching of actual footballs until preseason camp begins in late July or early August. They’re also limited to just eight hours per week in which they are allowed to meet with players during the summer.

What exactly CAN they do over the summer?  Are they holding team meetings and watching film together? Or doing non-contact drills that don't involve throwing? 

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Interrobanged's picture

Basically working on fundamentals without using footballs.

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mtrotb's picture

They can do now more than they did in the past.  10 years ago there was none of this allowed with coaches.

mtrotb

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BuckeyeJAK's picture

Is that eight hours per coach or total ?

Mark May is a mental midget

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Major H's picture

I read that as 8 hours of being coached. Eight hours x 10 coaches = fulltime gig.

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

Chris Chugunov is almost never mentioned. Typically WV is as good or better than KY. He's been here longer than the suggested QB 1 and 2. He should be polished and prepared to be in the race. An article on his progress would be nice.

https://247sports.com/Player/Chris-Chugunov-35748/

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BrutusB's picture

In his last game action (bowl vs Utah 2 years ago), he went 9 for 28 with 2 INTs.  I'm glad he's here and he should provide good depth, but if he's actually in the race we're in a LOT of trouble.

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Blackcoffee's picture

There is not a "race". Chris Fields will be the guy leading this team come fall. He played a year at Georgia, at backup, but still played. He is not coming right from high school. He is too talented.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Has Chris Fields enrolled yet? ;) 

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

.No, but Chris Chugunov has enrolled. ;0)

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buckzilla1's picture

Between Chug and the veteran receivers and backs throwing and running routes I would say there will be a very polished group come time for the first game. Think of it this way. Do you think all of the vets who have so much at stake are going to settle for a lesser work ethic then displayed by JT and Haskins? 

You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. Urban Frank Meyer

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Chris Chugunov did not come to Ohio State to be the starter, or even the backup for that matter, and didn't even really expect to be on the roster this year. To be blunt, everyone involved – him included – would probably be shocked if he ended any higher than third on the depth chart.

BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

Every player comes to OSU to be a starter. Do they arrive with enough talent and hype ? Not always. The ex WVU QB has the most MUD. Months under Day. What should I be working on coach ? Absolutely nothing. You came here to be 3rd team. Stay out of the way ! Uh No. Development of all players to be their best is essential. I believe our staff will elevate all Buckeyes and God will work on the small details like health and availability.
In August of our last championship season, few were on the Cardale train. Sometimes a chance is the only missing piece.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Development is good, for sure, but I’m just informing you that there is no expectation from him or the staff that he compete for the starting quarterback spot or even the backup spot this offseason, which is what you seemed to be hinting at.

But if you would like to read about him, Dan did do a nice piece on him not too long ago. https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2019/03/102916/third-...

buckeye1964's picture

if anyone believes this qb competiton nonsense and that fields has to earn the starting spot - then i have some wonderful, prime real estate to sell you - at a great price! LOL. he had the job as soon as he agreed to come here.

and what's even more head-shaking to me is this: OSU is one of the top 3 programs in the country - and we have 3 transfer qbs that have never played one play in a game for the buckeyes.......amazing.

danny

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Welcome to the transfer portal era of college football...

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Colortv1967's picture

That’s head coaching for you. Day should have done whatever it took to keep Martell and Baldwin on campus. Does anyone really believe that the only reason Baldwin left was “homesickness “?  Nope, he had something like, “ it would be in your best interest to move on” whispered in his ear or even shouted. 

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Martell was allegedly told that by the staff but there was no way that Baldwin was told that by the staff. He was going to be #2 on the depth chart, at worst. Baldwin chose to leave for reasons only known to him. Martell left because Ohio State was transitioning to a passing-heavy offense and he was more of a read-option guy. 

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BuckeyeBulldog's picture

From what I know of the qb situation at TCU I'd be surprised if Baldwin actually plays much this season. He would have been a clear #2 and likely played a fair bit at OSU this season. I'm inclined to believe that wanting to be close to home was a big part of his decision, especially since I'm sure there were other D1 teams that could offer him playing time.
As for Martell, the writing was on the wall for his transfer since last year. The supposed "Tate package" amounted to little more than some telegraphed redzone runs.

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Big Horn Buckeye's picture

I am a fan, but Ohio State is not a top 3 program. 3 programs have more appearances in the playoffs than Ohio State. Oklahoma is a better program right now than Ohio State. Arguably Georgia is better than Ohio State now with Kirby Smart. It’s easy to see a noticeable gap between Ohio State and the top tier programs of Alabama and Clemson.

New Head coach, with 8 weeks of head coaching experience before being hired. QB that has never started, 4 new starters on the offensive line. A defense that wasn’t good. With new defensive coaches that held our offense to only 55 points and weren’t able to adjust and we laughed about it.

Ohio State can get there but there is more work to do to get there than at those other places. 9 wins would be a good record this year.

Always and forever, Go Bucks!

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

The guy running the defense for TTUN was Brown. He was making all the calls. Ohio State burnt TTUN with their speed. Ohio State picked on Watson the entire game. And no matter how good of a position coach you may be, you can’t make Watson faster than he was at that point. 

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Big Horn Buckeye's picture

There are things that can de done to not give up 55 points. 

Always and forever, Go Bucks!

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Perhaps you should have contacted Brown during the game because I am sure that he was looking for answers. 

BTW...what could they have done to not give up 55 points? 

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Big Horn Buckeye's picture

More than one way to do that. Oregon State is the only other team that didn’t keep Ohio State under 55 points. 

Always and forever, Go Bucks!

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

"More than one way to do that"

Well, I guess they could have quit after the 3rd quarter?

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BuckeyeInDenver's picture

You failed to mention that Oklahoma has not won a single playoff game. And in the Urban Meyer era they went 1-1 against tOSU. You’d have an easier time arguing that Stoops’ program was better than Tressel’s, and even then I think you’d probably be wrong. OSU is clearly the third best program in college football behind Bama and Clemson. OU is clearly fourth. 

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CowCat's picture

Can Hoak learn the playbook on his own and throw to receivers on his own?

In any case, Fields and Hoak will be at varying levels of experience when they enter fall camp. I hope the coaches focus on what each player can do well and start from there.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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ELJTSA76's picture

I have this nervous energy when I think about the QB position - thanks Dwayne. I mean that, though, you were special enough to be one-and-done and a Heisman invitee at the QB position, which just doesn’t happen often. 

I know the starting job is Fields’ job, maybe not even “to lose,” unless he is injured. So there’s no reason to discuss Hoak, even though he is more of a known and probably more consistent commodity going into this year. I really want Fields to be the greatest QB of all time, like many here believe he will be from day one. But that doesn’t happen. Fields is all hype at this point. All we have seen from him is garbage time at UGA, and a cringeworthy spring game performance. I don’t have a lot of confidence like a lot of you. This kid is an exceptional athlete, yes, but learning a new offense as a first time starter with less than a year of offseason... it’s mot ideal. I think it’s going to be tough sledding and a lot of ups and downs for Fields. I still think my Braxton Millet comparison is worthy. He’s going to tuck and run a lot, he’s going to throw a lot of incompletions and more interceptions that we want while trying to figure out how to play this position against first string college defenses, and he is behind the 8-ball with the transfer. The spring practices were probably a big help, but I’d rather have seen Balwin’s 24-36 (or whatever it was) than a 4-11 ( or whatever it was) performance against his own defensive teammates. I hope he is studying hard, is a quick learner, and that OSU has a cutting edge film editing and learning format for him to use on that iPad. It is great to hear that he is throwing with teammates this offseason. But I’m anxious to get started and see how this thing goes, and hoping he’s a quick learner. There’s a lot of talent on this team, and thank to the transfer portal, he can’t take a year to develop. I hope for the best. 

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Braxton'sSpinMove's picture

I mean we are all entitled to our own opinions but to say Fields performance was cringe worthy after about 10 practices and not even knowing the offense is kind of over analyzing the results. People need to relax... of course he’s not going to name Fields the starter yet he has to learn the play book and retain the information, he has to bond with his teammates and become a leader all in which happen over time. Day didn’t name him the starter yet because he doesn’t have a reason to. Let these guys go through fall camp before we push the panic button.

The mark of excellence, the test of greatness, is consistency

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Colortv1967's picture

Another disadvantage not mentioned for Fields is the chop job the Georgia crew did on him. They cut his self confidence legs right out from under him. He refused to walk the company line and was starting to expose some of what had been promised him by the Kirby carousel. I hope he can get it back, for his sake and OSUs. 

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Big Horn Buckeye's picture

I agree with you ELJSTA76. The stuff mentioned after your post are excuses for not performing well. Are those same people willing to accept poor performance this fall? How does 9-4 sound? Keeping in mind that there will be 4 new starters on the OLine. Coaches thought so much of our depth on the OLine that they brought in a transfer to start. This will be guys protecting our QB or opening holes for Dobbins.

Always and forever, Go Bucks!

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JimmyVanP's picture

well good thing fields has quincy avery to help him out

"I feel ready for whatever awaits me on the other side. I don’t fear adversity. I don’t fear the spotlight. I don’t fear success. And I don’t fear failure." - Braxton Miller

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Turfgrad's picture

Wake up, eat, lift, eat, go to bed, Repeat 60 times.

"I think Alabama would beat Ohio State if they played next weekend!" Clay Travis Fox Sports Post Championship Show 1.12.2015.  Needs no explanation.

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Maka's picture

I was at the Woody Monday and Tuesday for the youth camp(5th-8th grade). From my limited time there, Fields is putting in the work with the WRs. Didnt see every WR but Victor was working hard both days. I assumed the other QB I seen working with the group was Chug but I could be wrong. 

My son had a great time at camp. Coaches were outstanding as were a few players that got involved. Rashod Berry is an absolute class act guy. Him and Ruckert ran a drill day one and you could see he truly enjoyed being around the kids. Chase Young was another guy that impressed me. Both days he made himself available and interacted with the kids. Im sure it wasnt a requirement for him to mingle with kids and parents. Great kid. 

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Exile's picture

What the limitations on coaching really mean to me is that we're going to see a lot about the character and work ethic that Justin Fields brings to the table. He may be a lock to start, whatever the coaches say, but if his attitude is that he's got this, then he's almost certainly going to fail. I don't think he's that kind of kid, but what do I--a random fan on the internet--know? Not much, but I'm waiting anxiously to find out how he responds to the situation. 

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Steelydan54's picture

QB's and receivers spend most of the summer working on routes and timing so they are 90% ready by fall practice. Fields won't be Haskins for week one but as long as he doesn't throw 3 picks, he'll be fine running, handing off to JK and throwing when receiver is obviously open... meet JT 2.0.  I expect him to evolve into a more confident passer as the year progresses. 

Steelybuck54

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

"meet JT 2.0"

Only Fields has Braxton type speed...

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Nikkibucksfan's picture

I hope all our qb’s get plenty of time in with the receivers . We need them to be ready. #GoBucks

Nikki emmerson

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