I thought Pryor was a guy who could walk in and be ready day 1 as a freshman, but of course those were ridiculous expectations that you get when you're super high on a prospect.
He struggled last year, but your first year as part of the depth chart will have those ups and downs.
That play he made against Minnesota was great, just gotta hope he is trending the right direction. Lots of changes this year, as long as he's bought in and committed to improving, no reason to think he can't take the steps forward.
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I was at the TCU game last season and I've never seen a safety more lost during a game in all my life. Really hoping the young man gets things figured out, for his sake and the team's.
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I was there as well and I couldn’t believe the angles taken that led to the wrong records broken
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I'd rather play a freshman.
Like the article said, there are about 3 or four guys that could and should play ahead of him (Fuller, Proctor. Wade and White). Do not think he sees much action other than special teams or if someone is injured. Hopefully he improves with better coaching.
It was a real chore watching him last season. He was lost in the sauce most games. I do hope he can figure it out.
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Well White may be the new bullet, so he may not be a safety anymore in the scheme. Likewise, Wade may play more nickel and traditional corner.
That would only have Fuller and Proctor ahead of him, and Proctor hasn't proven anything himself (not saying he shouldn't start but he's not a sure thing either)
But having White play bullet or Wade playing nickel takes the place of the 2nd safety, which would be Pryor's position. And they'll each be moved back to play the traditional safety spot at some points in the game.
The bullet is the 3rd linebacker based on what people have been saying (no one has been clear exactly the body type as of now of course, so we won't know until it's put into practice).
If Wade is one of the 3 rotating reps on the outside (which OSU had done the past 3 years or so) then he may not be playing as much nickel.
I am hoping Pryor improves and can make some plays for us. Always like to see kids who struggled early come through big later on and succeed
There will be times the 3 linebackers are on the field + Brendon White.
I think we had Pryor thinking too much last year rather than just reacting and playing. Coaches need to do a better job with him, not to say some of it isn't his own fault. But it goes both ways imo, put him in positions where he can succeed.
I think Pryor will have a chance at some point this year. There are a lot of tough games, and injuries happen. He's still an incredible athlete and the new coaches might be able to pull the great safety out of him.
It is my opinion that Pryor was hurt a lot by scheme last season. I have reservedly high hopes for him this season with new scheme and coaching. I hope the young man excels and the coaches cannot keep him off of the field because of his high level of play.
I'm a big Isaiah Pryor fan. I think he, Werner and Borland became easy and convenient whipping boys as it related to the back seven's struggles, which I attribute more to inept coaching. I am hoping that with better coaching, he will have a bounce-back year like Gareon Conley did.
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Agree...staff changes can make a world of difference (re: Brian Hartline)...
I'll be first in line hoping Borland and Werner improve this year. I dont have much hope in the event, and my aggravation will have a short leash.
Borland and Werner not playing the run plays effectively had nothing to do with the defensive backfield players or coach. Davis or Schiano maybe.....hopefully. from watching football for 3 decades it's really not often a player at linebacker goes from looking out of place to be legit after a year. Lil animal, AJ Hawk, Spielman, Tovar, Katzenmoyer, Carpenter, Rolle....brought it for the most part with stout desire to not be beat, from the get go.
IMO, Borland and Werner cant get of blocks are a bit slow and make tackles far too often 7 yards off the line of scrimmage
I'm not hating, just being honest about what I see.
Werner was in pass coverage majority of time, with large majority of long runs not attributed to him. I also wouldn't call him slow. Agree that he can make Improvements in getting off of blocks. I do think new schemes will benefit his athleticism.
Im not going to be to harsh on the kid. Alot of the defense struggled and I want to see what new coaches can do. I think everyone here would love to see each of these guys reach their maximum potential.
Whether physical or not, I don't think Pryor has the coverage skills to be successful at this level.
Maybe not a starter at the beginning of the year but we will need him to play well at some point in the next season with 13-15 games
He is our 4th or 5th best option at safety. He will be, and should be, on the bench.
I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't return this fall.
Light doesnt always come on quickly for high ranked recruits. Sometimes it doesn't come on at all, but sometimes you have guys that play big their senior years.
I hope Pryor has a great year, and he certainly has the raw athleticism to step up--not to mention maybe having the right coaching now, as well as a better scheme to help him out--but I'd be lying if I didn't admit that I'll be nervous when he first steps onto the field.
It'l probably stay that way, too, until the eye test and stat line prove that he's made a turnaround.
I forget which national stat compiler showed that Pryor had the worst season of any DB in college football in 2018 (and it wasn't even close), but frankly, that didn't surprise me at all. From the first quarter of the first game against Oregon State, I was able to watch him playing up close, and it was clear to me and a whole crew that was watching the game that he just wasn't ready to start, and neither was Wint.
It REALLY stood out like a sore thumb.
Or even a sore hamstring, the problem being that he was perfectly healthy.
Now, I could blame Pryor and Wint for all that--and, man, I'm not sure I've seen more obvious case where guys just weren't ready to play--however, anytime you have a stat line that shows a kid is getting burned on a routine basis at nearly 38% clipe, and yet, the coach keeps...
1) playing him, and 2) he doesn't change up the scheme for the play or else the player's technique, or 3) he doesn't try out a backup vs. continuing to play a kid that obviously isn't ready to play, and 4) the player is one of the fastest guys on the team, and yet, he clearly played exceptionally slow (which is a pretty sure indicator that the player's thinking too much or he's confused, etc.), well...
Then I think it's fair to say that a whole lot of those stats are on the coach. Worse yet, by putting the player out on the field time after time, said coach not only is reinforcing bad habits but he's seriously eroding the kid's confidence.
In short, because of some clearly inept coaching decisions in 2018, Pryor needs to overcome inexperience, a predictable lack of confidence, a really bad year, and a whole lot of criticism.
However, like I said, not only does he have the physical ability and coaching to make a huge turnaround, I took it as a great sign that I didn't hear him complain or say anything about transferring, which would have been the easy way it.
To me, that shows someone who's willing to learn and make the most of his opportunities, and I'd love nothing more than for him to be the comeback story of the year.
I think he has the physical talent. He has to get his head right and good coaching could still make him an asset to our defense. However, the competition will be tough!
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It did seem to be a "head" problem in 2018, at least on the field in the sense of not being mentally prepared (and maybe being confused by bad coaching, too), but the good news is that he doesn't seem to be a "head" problem where it counts most--maturity.
As far as I can tell, he's putting the axe to the grindstone and focusing on getting better. Let's hope his head harnesses all that talent in 2019.
Right--great point. He has never had an attitude issue that I have seen or heard of. I think the new coaching staff can get him more mentally prepared.
I am rooting for this kid and glad there is tough competition because that will only make our entire defense better.