He's not in shape and athletic enough to get drafted into the NBA yet.
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Hes plenty athletic enough. He's just not in the shape he needs to be in. And I'm sure these teams are going to tell him what exactly he needs to work on.
Who does he compare to athletically in the NBA?
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I think that Kaleb will be back in Columbus next season for sure. After that, I can see him entertaining the prospect of playing overseas.
I am not sure Kaleb has the skills (mental, physical, and emotional) yet to play in the NBA. Maybe he will after another year at Ohio State. Then again, he may never play in the NBA. But he may well play pro ball somewhere—in a year or two.
I would like to see a good comparison between Kaleb and Sullinger, whom the Celtics drafted, but then cut loose.
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Sully was a consensus All American, 2 year Wooden Award Finalist, BIG Fresh of the Year and was drafted in the first round by Boston after his 2nd year pick#21 ... Wesson is not that close
And even Sully admits to screwing up his NBA career pretty much the same way that Kaleb is not disciplined and focusing on his problems.
No comparison between the two. Not even close !!
I agree I think you are dead on. This will be his last season at osu. He's not entertaining the pro's because he's wanting to play two more years in college. He/his family have probably already told H., put it this way, it they get a verbal commit from a wing and a big, the hand writing is on the wall.
Perhaps sweet nothings are being whispered to the young man and he thinks that he could go in the first round
Purely for evaluation purposes. He wants to know what to work on and what to demand from himself and set his goals when he comes back. Smart.
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The only sweet nothings being whispered are his chances of being drafted, they are zero and he's already gotten that feedback.
The only league he is playing in after TOSU is overseas.
I really do wish him well and think he is a definite asset to our team, but I really don't see how he possibly fits in today's NBA game. It would have been interesting to see his combine stats compared to other bigs.
Long story short he may have the skills to get to the NBA but he lacks discipline , focus and drive to get there right now.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s unreal how people make these assumptions but people they don’t know.
Pretty sure Boston drafted Sullinger, so they could give him pretty good feedback on what to work on. He still seems a little soft, and could use a little more quickness. Not sure what his role would be on a NBA team, but he has the body type of a Draymond Green or Glen "Big Baby" Davis. Not as skilled as Green right now but could play like a Davis who was valuable to the Doc Rivers teams as a role guy.
completely different nba nowadays
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Wesson is MUCH heavier than Green and not near as athletic, perhaps Davis is a better comparison at 280-290 but Green is not even close at 6'7" and 230
Wesson is to Davis as Davis was to Barkley. Some compared Davis to Barkley, but he simply wasn't on that level athletically. Kaleb might have had a shot in the nba 30 years ago. He's just not quick enough for today's game.
I think a Terrence Dials comparison is probably a little closer. Dials was very effective in the midrange game, but couldn't expand to the 3 point line like Kaleb. Neither is terribly athletic, but I do think Dials had more lift and was quicker off the floor. Kaleb is probably an inch or two taller.
Green is 6' 8" tall and way more athletic than Big Baby or Wesson, that is not even close to a good comparison.
And a MUCH MUCH MUCH better defender and passer than those guys as well... I've got NO LOVE for Green but Big Baby and Wesson not even in the same universe basketball-wise.
I'm just giving a comparison to height and body type. Wesson would need to lose 20 lbs. to be in 255-260 range. And Big Baby is a petty good comparison actually. Small ball 5 or bigger lineup if he plays the 4. Comparison to Green is based on the ideal type of basketball Kaleb would have to play to be effective. Green is more athletic and versatile but given Kaleb's height, he will have to get in better shape to compete in the NBA. And he is actually a pretty skilled passer. Green didn't get the hype out of college and developed as he has been in the NBA.
Wesson is not Green right now. But would have to develop that type of play to be effective. That is the best case scenario.
Sorry, but I do have to chuckle at the mention of Wesson playing the 4 in the NBA.
I can see some comparisons to Green on the offensive end, but Wesson is not as good a passer or off the dribble. Wesson is so much slower laterally that there is no comparison on the defensive end.
Correct. But when is Green at his best? It's in the "death lineup" where he plays the small ball 5. Which is what Wesson would have to be. He's not big enough to be a true 5. Same with Sullinger. Which is why I thought his best comp was a Big Baby Davis who was effective for those Doc Rivers teams in Boston and LA.
Green was playing at 255this year until he lost weight for the playoffs. Wesson would be 255-260 if he lost 20 lbs. Again, in my original post I said he is not as athletic as Green or as skilled. But that is one of the players he should be looking at to try to develop into an NBA player.
And lebron plays at 260. ITs not just about weight. There are a bunch of skinny people that don't have much athletic ability either. Again, you are comparing Wesson to guys who were quicker and more athletic and just shedding 10-20 pounds isn't going to move the needle that much for him. He's probably the least athletic starting center (maybe any center) in the B1G. Some people have mistaken that for laziness. He isn't lazy, just doesn't have good genes.
Love the way Coach Holtmann handles these types of things with the players. He's a class act.
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So is Wesson missing any workouts with the team or conditioning or anything that would potentially hurt him or the team next season?
Love KW and wish him the best but not convinced that he is near a first round pick at this point in his career. Hope he receives good pointers on improving his game but returns for another year or two to the Bucks to work on his conditioning and sharpening his game which Holtmann and staff can do.
He was born in the wrong decade. Not sure he can fix his two biggest problems. He's not tall enough to play center in the NBA in 2019 ( there's ZERO chance he could hang with Embid, Towns, Ayton etc) and he's not quick enough to hang with NBA small forwards. Small forwards would eat him alive and your traditional power forward role has vanished every year. He can get stronger for sure but I don't see how he would guard guys like AD, LeBron, Blake, Kevin Love etc that are just so much quicker than him... The forward positions have just gotten really athletic here lately and every year get more and more athletic.
I still think his path to a basketball paycheck is overseas.. but good for him going through all of this to get a good sense of what the NBA thinks of him..
Wesson will never play in the NBA. He’s just a good college player. Not even a very good College player
He's going to average almost 14 ppg over three years, that's a pretty good college player. Especially one who doesn't dominate the ball. That's 1400 pts. in 3 years @ 25 min. per game. I'd call that a pretty good college player.
There’s a difference in pretty good and very good. I’ll give you pretty but he’s not very
Why are people saying he doesnt fit in todays NBA? Hes obviously worked hard on his outside shot because he was pretty smooth at it last year and I'd assume it would continue that trajectory.
I get that he got suspended at a bad time last year and that easily brings character into question and thats on him. But we have no idea even what the suspension was for and tell me if i'm wrong, but outside of fans, has anyone heard anyone say a single bad thing about the kid? No one has even leaked the reason for the suspensions, which in 2019 tells me something.
He needs to come back, but I'm no NBA scout. Who knows what they're telling him.
For a large majority of the people on this message board it makes them feel good to think their opinions matter. Like you said not one person on here is a scout and no you knows a word of what they’re talking about.
"Why are people saying he doesnt fit in todays NBA? "
Mostly because he is slow and can't jump. He can't score inside against college guys that can match his size. He has good hands, good vision and feel for the game and shoots well for his size, but doesn't rebound out of his area and struggles guarding outside 15 feet.
Today's centers are either stretch 4's that can switch on the perimeter, or big guys that can protect the paint and knock down open jumpers. Wesson can knock down open shots, but offers nothing on the defensive end at the NBA level.
You are speaking from a position of what you think. I’m speaking from a position of what I know. I know the feedback Kaleb’s received from the NBA. Kaleb is not a product but the feedback he’s receiving is not consistent with what the people on this site are saying about his game.
I haven't seen you post a thing on what scouts have said about Kaleb, so I have no idea what you know. I also know that what one scout says, doesn't speak for all scouts.
"Bryan Kalbrosky of Hoops Hype aggregates 5 different mocks from Bleacher Report, SI.com, ESPN, The Athletic and NBA Draft. Wesson doesn’t appear on any of them.
Aran Smith’s NBA Draft Net ranks 100 prospects, and Wesson again is off the list. ESPN’s Draft Board doesn’t rank him, either."
ITs clear he isn't getting drafted this year. I'm guessing the feedback is work on upper body strength, quickness, agility, cardio and defensive positioning. They are never going to tell an underclassman he has no chance. Its not in their interested to do so.
Wishing Kaleb good luck. I'm sure he's getting quality feedback from folks who really know about basketball, and Kaleb will have a better understanding on how he can improve his game. It takes some guts to put yourself out there to be judged, but it sounds like Kaleb is motivated to be the best player he can be. He's gotten in much better shape from his senior year in high school, and his game has expanded in his 2 years at Ohio State. Looking forward to next season's basketball Bucks.
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