Interesting paradigm with the portal in that, if you enter the portal have you burnt a bridge with the school you’re at? And if you enter the portal, have burnt the bridge, and there are no FBS options for you, have you done yourself a disservice? Hadn’t actually thought of that
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
I think that the portal will balance out itself somewhat in a few years. Teams will always “ find room” for the Fields and Hurts of the world. Lesser players will eventually realize that the FCS or Division II may be their only option (unless the player fills a spot on a team from a “position of need” standpoint). Some Power 5 teams that are at the bottom of its conference standings could be a landing point for backup players from the top tier teams such as Alabama and Ohio State.
If I understood the article correctly the problem is exceeding 25 signees a year and not the 85 total scholly numbers. I can see the affect if the player is looking for immediate eligibility, but if not, a little planning should make it pretty manageable. Also, players are going to have to be savvy as to when they enter the portal.
The soldier is my son. The school I gone to didn’t teach much grammar.
I guess the question to be answered is, will this lead to a "greyshirt" type of scenario (teams oversign and don't add a player to the active roster leaving them to be a glorified walk-on for a year) for some players if they want to transfer to a different team but can't fit in that 25 member class?
“The Big Ten Conference has established a new benchmark...college sports finance “ This is the biggest reason why you won’t see the conference CG eliminated to add a playoff round. It is all about the Benjamin’s and there is no way that conferences are going to give up that revenue.
I tend to want to call bullshit on Genes comments above. You are correct the B10 will never give up the championship game because it means to much money. As for the wear and tear, gtfo, every other division has a true playoff. So many excuses to cover the true reason. THEY ARE ALL SCARED TO ROCK THE BOAT AND LOSE MONEY. Bad news, the dying bowl system will start to lose ticket sales much like the over priced regular season sleepers. At some point they will be forced to have the best teams play numerous playoff games. As opposed to the 3rd place MAC team playing the 7th place B10 team at Ford field the week before Christmas.
Ohio, the greatest state in the Union!
The networks will not let the bowls die. They get to fill 3 hours with stuff people at home will still watch and get the commercials in. The TV money is way more important than the ticket sales for most of those games.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
It’s not three hours. It’s three WEEKS of programming. I know a true playoff would be hugely valuable, but that’s a lot of money to offset.
Exactly. The leagues get the TV revenue, the TV networks get product that people watch, the coaching staff gets extra practice/evaluation time, and the players get electronic swag and what not.
I understand that some fanboy types out there want nothing less than Bama,tOSU,Clemson,etc,etc. being forced to play a schedule consisting entirely of Top 25 (or higher, ideally) opponents, but get real people.
Sorry, I said ticket sales, but truly meant ticket and media income. Sponsors won’t be paying for these crap games that pull ratings less than 2am reruns of ridiculousness.
Pockets are fat and everyone is still scratching their buddies backs.
A football playoff would be an epic event and would generate much more interest and money, but that means current fat cats have to get of their ass and fight for their share...
Agreed. Give up one of your useless OOC games that you still charge outrageous prices to attend. Have the SEC give up those games right before they play their rivalry games at the end of the season. There was a time not long ago when they played a total of 11 regular season games (changed in 2002) and that was fine until they got greedy.
Exactly, get rid of chicken-shit Saturday where the SEC plays a local high school team every year and everyone else plays a division two team, reducing the regular season by one. Keep the conference championship game and expand the playoff to one more game, or eight teams. It’s not rocket science.
I agree with Jay, gene's comments are bullshit, but politically correct-and typical. They want to protect the players at all costs and make the game safer for them. Except when they see $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ free for the taking. It's never about the money! But it always about How Much Money!! Since the BIG has been shut out of the playoffs for what could be the 3rd year, some of the ad's would like to expand the playoff to eight. That way they get some of the money. LOL One thing for sure, if the ad's are for it, the president's will fall in line meekly and willingly like the good ole boys they are. I imagine the pac 12 feels the same way, since they can't get in a playoff any other way. The sec will be in lock step, since they'll get two in every year and possibly three some years. The rich just keep on getting richer, as they say. Link; https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2019/05/penn-states-x-factor-...
The sec commisioner's have always been so much smarter than the Big's commissioner's when it comes to football and scheduling. The Big thought they could pressure the sec into playing nine league games, in the hope that the sec would have to follow suit in order to be fair and equitable. Now it's the Big beating itself up and knocking each other out of the playoff. They'd look like fools if they went back to 8 games now. Then, playing a patsy before the rival game is smart too, look at who osu plays before it's rival game. The sec allowed multiple teams to play bowl games probably 40 years before the Big did. That is one of the reasons why the Big will always be chasing the sec in football.
Miller sure can throw that thing!! Got to believe he has a great chance to be great!! And there's still a year to improve!!!
As hard as I try to stay calm, cool, and collected, it getting really hard not to get excited as hell about the coming season and seasons beyond!
Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!
And I love the fact that Miller is not fazed by other QBs already on campus or QB recruits the Bucks are going after.
“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden
Neither was Baldwin
In this case, Miller will have the advantage over McCord because he’ll have competed with Fields and Hoak his freshman season. The question will be whether Fields performs well enough to leave after next season. If not, things get really interesting with Miller. And Day would likely be on the hot seat. This is not what I anticipate though
The question will be whether Fields performs well enough to leave after next season
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Fields will be a sophomore in 2019 so I believe he has at least two years in Columbus before he can go play on Sundays.
"Defiance in Silence"
This is correct.
Good morning (although it’s evening now)!
When I said next season, I meant after 2020. I know we haven’t gotten to the 2019 games yet, but cfb feels like a year round sport now.
How many guys enter the transfer portal but don't end up transferring? Or is the portal so far down the road that once it gets to that point, theres just no coming back?
On behalf of Ohio State, to the rest of the B1G, you're welcome. Now if the rest of the conference could carry their weight with that revenue thing, that'd be great.
If you enter the portal the team can eliminate your scholarship after the semester. They’re not mandated to. If a player enters portal and they’re a marginal contributor, it’s likely a one way street.
Those Scarlet basketball uniforms are incredible. Sometimes simple is just better.
Those Scarlet basketball uniforms are incredible
I'll second that notion everyday of the week and twice on game day! SO much Scarlet swag it hurts my Buckeye eyes!
This might not be a popular opinion, but I'd be down with a black uniform to match the football team.
Word is the recruits love that black swag thing too...
The playoff does not need to extend the season. This is not an oversight...the strawman if you will. Shorten the season. The Game is the third week of November. 10 or 11 regular season, and no more. They do this to profit off the athletes. Never forget the motivation.
If the season is shortened a lot of teams will lose revenue (what have there been, perhaps eight different teams that have actually played in the CFP?). Since, as you suggested, money is the motivation the reduction in games played isn’t likely to occur.
You are correct in that a 10/11 game regular seaon is one reason they can run a 16 team playoff in the lower divisions, But none of those schools are putting 100,000 in the stands for any of those games, nor do they have TV contracts for that lost week or two of football. Eliminating a week of the regular seaon asks Ohio State to give up 7M+ in revenue for a maybe chance. While I'd do that in a heartbeat, it'd not my $.
ONE Not Done!
Ya, I don't understand why no one ever talks about eliminating non-conference games to counter balance playoff expansion. It seems the general public have been complaining about the relative throw-away games at the beginning of the season and the need for more games at the end, so it just makes sense. Instead of forcing these money grab neutral site non-conference games, let everyone battle out in their respective conferences and your non-conference schedule flips to the playoff. Should theoretically level the playing field between conferences as well.
The SEC already does that. It's called Chickenshit Saturday and their starters all get to rest and recover in November. It's a guaranteed win and it has had proven success in the playoff. Their uncanny ability (and Notre Dame's) to have teams that take Championship Satirday off, still get into they playoff does the same thing.
Exactly, and while OSU has been making efforts to schedule home and aways to impress the judges with their tough non-conference schedule, the SEC simply refused to do any such thing or even go play an OOC opponent on their soil. Adding insult to injury, they schedule a chickenshit team to end the year and have actually been rewarded for this strategy versus penalized, having received every benefit of the doubt and being the only conference to get two teams into a four team playoff twice.
The problem with the portal is players can enter anytime they want. I’ve suggested before, open it Sep 1st-Nov 31st, for the early signing period. Then again after spring practices. Say April through the end of June. Most kids transfer after fall camp and spring camps. At least both players and schools will have a timeline to be prepare for. Having it open 365 days a year is a total mess imo.
Personally I’ve never hated any particular throw back uniform, the scarlet that oozes throughout my body overrides. The kids love it. Especially during official visits when they dress up for their pictures. They probably have a pretty cool walk-in closet.
Kevin,since the off season sucks for everyone, especially journalists and bloggers scratching their heads trying to figure out another week of stories. I’d love to see a look at the ever changing OSU campus and surrounding area hang outs & restaurants. For us expats living abroad, all the changes year to year can be overwhelming when visiting. I always remembered The Varsity Club as a dive. Last November I was impressed with how great the place looked. As well as the “huge” menu,
Have a great hump day dubbers.
MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS
Hey Awlin, I don’t know how long you’ve been out of the country, but we generally call Wednesday hump day here in America.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
I would add that no team be allowed to accept a portal player that doesn't have an available spot at the time the kid enters it (or maybe 87)so others aren't dumped. It could make those that push over the limit too far rethink.
On the transfer portal, as the young man feels the need to transfer to get more playing time, believe me the headcoach too wishes the young man would have developed into the starter he would have hoped when he offered the young man in HS one of is few precious scholarships.
Now you are saying the young man could be burnt by entering the portal itself. You mean there are actually consequences for the choices a 20 year old makes college student make. What, omg!!!
I don't think you get rid of a the conference title games. You get rid of a regular season game. Getting rid of the conf title game would basically leave the play offs completely up to the committee, which I don't like.
"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI
Yep totally agree. I could do without the OSU vs FIU clash of the titans.
The entire CFB will not give up a regular season game so Bama, Clemson, OSU, Oklahoma, or Georgia can play another playoff game.
You’re proposing 130 schools cut 65 regular season games and all the revenue that comes with it, even if they’re the sacrificial lamb, so that four teams could play one extra game, and when at least one or two of them likely won’t have played in their CCG? When B1G teams are already making more money than 80% of FBS teams, you’d take money out of their wallets? Sorry, son, but that dawg don’t hunt.
Too many people have conflicting agendas: protect the players, the regular season, the CCGs, or the bowl system. But figuring this out isn’t that hard. It’s like a group puzzle—everyone’s so busy moving pieces around, they just need to step back a moment and look at differently.
Correct. What a lot of fans don't appreciate is how much money places like Ohio State have BORROWED +$100 million to build their massive stadiums and players' lounges that are nicer than the Four Seasons. The people who lent OSU money, want to be repaid which means OSU needs a reliable revenue stream to service this debt.
It will be a cold day in hell before OSU agrees to anything that would shorten their home schedule.
A playoff Doesn’t seem to be a problem for FCS schools.
College football never should have added the twelfth game to the regular season. Obviously this was for money and I get that. What always bothered me about 12 games was when it comes to bowl eligibility. With the 11 game season you had to have a winning record period, 6-5 at worst and could then finish no worse than .500. If you eliminate an out of conference game this still works.
Dating in Tunisia must really suck if cold calling random numbers is the best idea they have. Interesting link in a way, but also an odd one to those of us over here in more open society.
"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen. I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie
Terry should have just rode with it, gave them some wild scoop, and seen how far it got.
For some reason it's not uncommon for people I meet to say "You look familiar". My typical response is to say "Well you've probably seen me on TV". It's amazing how easy it is to string someone along for a couple minutes before they figure out you are bullshitting them. Mrs BBQ gets very irritated when I do this BTW
Same here, deal with it everyday.
And we don't resemble Terry, or Simba.
I think TMZ just didn't do their homework, so I'll give them a stupidity pass.
However many people just see what they want to see in people. For instance, I have dreadlocks. I've sat 2 seats from a guy for about a year. In a company of 1500, another guy starts working here with dreadlocks. Guy who sits near me say, "Hey MassiveAttack, you have a double working here on the 2nd floor!" I have seen the other dreadlocks-having guy. He is 6 inches shorter, 20 years younger, significantly lighter in complexion, has a full beard to my mustache, and likely 75 pounds lighter. Point is, all my neighbor saw was dreadlocks.
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Baskin Robbins? Nah, Haskins Dobbins - KannonMic
Sorry to hear that Massive, +1. WaPo just recently ran an article on this phenomenon:
BTW - If I were Terry, I would have suggested they come out to the parking lot for a ride in the Bentley. Lol.
Miller looks great, especially with a season of experience yet to gain. Heck, if I was a tight end I'd be drooling over those seam route passes he throws with pin-point accuracy. If you're looking at him through without scarlet-and-gray tinted glasses, my assessment of him is that he's got tremendous upside, but right now he stares down receivers. If you watch his tape, you can see where he's going with the ball based on where he's looking after the snap. No progression reads, and he doesn't have a cannon for an arm. But that's all perfectly normal stuff for a high schooler (heck, for most levels). He'll learn how to read the options based on route trees, how to not look at the guy he's going to until it's time to throw etc. Overall very impressed with him, both from what I see on the field and from what read about his mindset -- seems like a smart kid.
The future looks bright.
With respect to the number of games played by division
D1 FCS - 11 regular season games plus 4 or 5 playoff games depending upon first round byes. Teams in the championship game have typically had a bye so total schedule would be 15 games (24 team playoff)
D2 - same as D1 FCS (28 team playoff)
D3 - 10 regular season games plus 5 playoff games with no byes (32 team playoff but over 300 teams)
Therefore all three lower divisions with larger playoffs have a typical maximum of 15 games with an outside chance of a team getting hot in D1 FCS or D2 without a bye and playing 16 games.
This is the same current maximum for D1 FBS. (12+1+2)
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If they expand the playoff, they HAVE to get rid of at least one regular season game. I know that won't sit well with losing a home game, but it's the only logical thing to do, other than, as previously stated, getting rid of conference championship games which I wouldn't be opposed to.
Another way to counter the loss of a home game is to let the higher seeded playoff teams host the semifinal matchups.
But that only benefits a handful of teams at the expense of every other team that didn't make the playoffs. It'll never happen.
Give me a couple slices of ExtraMedium today. The sauce is otherworldly.
Bottomline: they are not going to take dough off the table just to put more dough on the table. And probably for less dough at that.
The Pillsbury Dough boy would have a word with you.
Meh. I’d poke him in the belly and he’d giggle.
I always thought a 6 team playoff would be best with the top 2 teams getting a bye
LunchMeat isn’t good for you. It warps your thinking. So they’re concerned about players’ health and your solution is to give the two best teams a pass so they’re fresher when they play two teams that already played a game? Tilting the deck to favor the two best teams would create an inequitable imbalance in a system that’s supposed to be about fairness. (And please don’t mention the NFL playoffs; they’re not the same thing.)
Many feel that way but the money wasn't good enough.
I'd agree with LunchMeat's take here, I'd say he's onto something.
Make it a 6-team playoff, give the top two seeds a bye and let them have at it.
Any playoff system has it's issues, right? Take for example that in many (if not all) sports, the lowest seed is pitted against the top seed. How the hell is that fair, right?!? It's the playoffs in (insert your sport here) so fair is not in the equation and shouldn't be the only reason you do or don't make a change. Shoot, tOSU Buckeyes won the whole damn thing in 2015 as a #4 seed and had to play through the top two seeds AND 3 Heisman Trophy finalists to get there and I'll tell you what. It just makes it that much sweeter when you hoist the trophy!
1. I don't vilipend the wear-and-tear factor. My solution is for P5 leagues to contract the regular season by one game. Allow the G5 and others to have the spotlight in week zero. Finish the regular season the week before Thanksgiving and play the conference championships Thanksgiving weekend. First round playoff games played at campuses of the top four teams the first Saturday in December. That will allow the losers to have a bowl experience. Proceed as now with the final four.
2. As I posted last week, Gene Smith said over 2,000 players have entered the portal. That is 18% of FBS scholarship positions. Keep in mind some of those are walk-ons. IIRC, OSU had two. If they don't find scholarships, I assume they could return to walk-on status.
3. The $54M figure is more than TV revenues. It includes bowl and NCAA basketball money. The B1G, BTW, leads in basketball money as well.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.
They won't give up the money for that.
A rare red Ferrari is missing? I suggest they look for this man.
Jim Delany leaving (any update on if he's announced a hard date?) the B1G in good financial health.
I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...
The Honda Accord's longevity is legendary. My wife had an '03 that we gave to our son when he graduated from high school. By the time he got out of college, that car had over a quarter million miles on it, and still going strong when he sold it in Fort Benning preparatory to his assignment in Germany.
I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes
I watched / listened to the video but i swear the reporter said, three engines later? So the car lasted 1 million miles but it had three engines?
I know one of the first Toyota trucks went over 1 million miles, Toyota gave the guy a new truck to take the old one back and disassemble it.
I drive Ford F150's,usually keep them four years and put somewhere around 125K miles on them. I have a 2013 with only 78K on it now. I haul, tow and drive in some rough terrain with my trucks so it will be interesting to see how far this one will go. Besides gas and oil changes my biggest expense is windshields.
My Girlfriend has a 2011 camaro, that is paid off that has a ton of miles but my lawn mower rides better than that POS.
"...Three engines later..."
You're right, Jmmy. Given that fact, I'm not quite so impressed. That averages out to only 333K per engine. ;-)
I've got an '07 Corolla approaching 210K right now. Three windshields, three sets of tires, new struts at 150K, refurbished clutch/pressure plate, and various other little repairs (cruise control, light bulbs, etc.), but still with the original engine.
Once I heard he had changed engines a couple times, I stopped there. Most cars could go s million on 3 engines. I put 335k on a 4 cylinder Ford Ranger......one engine, original clutch (standard), original exhaust. I never had to touch the engine.
Our '04 Pilot doing great at 285k.
b.t.w. its for sale !
Good morning everyone and Happy Day before the Day!!
I mean, just watch his highlights. I couldn't hand the ball to those receivers any better. And he still has another year in high school!
I watched the highlights from Miller's junior season and all I can say is wow! He can definitely sling the rock and with a touch you don't normally see from a high school junior and he's still got the wheels to pick up those tough yards when things break down!!
Adding additional teams into the playoff solves nothing.... fix the entry process and stick with the four team format.
The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced
I charged $18,000 for a static HTML page and got away with it...
This links to an article by Ibrahim Diallo.
Isn't that the name of the new recruit?
In old Ohio there's a team that's known throughout the land...
Nice. I was going to mention the same thing.
Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever. -Falco
We played Michigan. We turned around and went to the (Big Ten) championship game. We turned around and played Alabama,
We just gonna ignore that there was like a month long break snuck into the middle of that?
Not a fan of black unis. Black has been over used so much it has no meaning any longer. There are plenty of creative ways to use your team colors without having to pull out the cliche' black=badass card.
All in good fun, always all in good fun...
The playoff expansion talk is even simpler than what you present—we didn’t have 4 teams that were really championship caliber, so we don’t need to expand to 8. Kills me haw many are willing to kill the value of the best regular season in sports to add four imposters to the mix. Never change Playoff Guy, you be you.
You are entitled to you own opinion, not your own facts.
It’s impossible to know they aren’t championship caliber until the games are played. Your entire argument is based on hindsight bias. A lot of people said OSU wasn’t championship caliber in 2014 before the games were played.
We are having different conversations. For you, championship caliber is defined by being given a chance and winning “championship” games. For me, it is looking at the body of work before those games are played and saying “so and so deserves a chance.” I measure the standards against what historically has been championship caliber in CFB. We now live in a “everyone gets a trophy” t-ball era where people are willing to pretend teams are championship teams with 2, 3, 4 losses because, well, we have been conditioned to absorb bloated playoff brackets whose primary purpose is to sell more content to viewers. It’s amazing how few question the Giants 12-7 champs over 18-1 Patriots when they split games head to head. Kudos to NFL for getting people to slurp that crap up i guess, but at least this guy doesn’t want such stupidity on Saturdays.
As for your example, you do make a point. But that was a 1 loss OSU team. Expand to 8, and we will regularly see 2 and 3 loss teams in the mix. This is why I didn’t want 4 (which I can live with), because for many, it is just the start/slippery slope.
I can see a scenario becoming more and more common where the Conference Championship game is just something to " get through" before the playoffs, especially if playoffs move to 8 teams.
I have never been a fan of the Conference Championship game, it seems artificial and contrived to me. Just think of all the SEC championship games that featured a 12-0 or and 11-1 team against an 8-4 or 9-3 team. Last year's game against Northwestern is another good example.
Expanded playoffs will also lead to situations where a team would do better to rest guys in a CC game rather than go all out to win it. Lets' say there is one undefeated team, two one loss teams and maybe 6 two loss teams out there. No way would the undefeated team losing the CC game keep them out of the playoffs,unless they got completely humiliated. I think ending CC games is a MUST if the playoffs are ever expanded.
Options for expanded playoff (8 teams)
Reduce conference games by 1 (get rid of divisions while you're at it, oh and Rutgers too)
Play the conference championship game one week after the season (1st weekend of December)
Play the first round two weeks after conference championships (3rd weekend of December)
Play the second round a week later (4th weekend of December)
Play the championship two weeks later (2nd weekend in January)
This extends the season by a week, but gives teams a chance to prepare for the championship instead of being ready to play in 10 days.
I am for a 6 team playoff. The champion from each Power 5 conference (eliminates tanking the CCG) and the top ranked “Group of Five” team. Top two ranked teams get a bye. The four remaining teams play each other (#3 vs #6 and #4 vs #5) at the home field of the highest seed. The lowest remaining seed after the first round plays the top seed and the other two teams left play each other at the designated bowl as the final four currently does under the current format. This eliminates multiple teams from one conference and the bias that comes with the selection process. There will be years when 2-3 loss teams make the playoffs if a particular conference has a down year but that is a small price to pay to prevent favoritism of teams from a certain conference.
I mean, if Ohio State wins the title this year, it would mean a stretch of Penn State, Michigan, a Big Ten Championship game, and then back-to-back games against top-four teams. And I'm sure there are other teams with similar gauntlets.
The simple solution to that is get rid of the divisions and the conference championship game and just award the title to the best regular season record holder. That eliminates one game from the schedule and gives you another week to recover before the playoffs start.
Strength equipment is expensive & guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free & will give you everything you need.
Getting rid of the conference championship game also means getting rid of $30M+.
So, you're saying it's not about student welfare? ;)
@ Link Locker... why is the Honda making a million miles news? I've got a buddy with a 1977 BMW that has nearly two million miles on it, original engine. Mercedes-Benz has a very populated million mile club... hell my friend Sammy has a 1974 BMW MOTORCYCLE that has nearly a million miles on an original engine and frame.
"Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war."
First, I want to apologize for posting this here. This unfortunately will be the biggest story since the Penn State abuse scandal. According to ESPN ( of course).
the football program according to this story has the most abuse victims. Oh no...
Hold your breath, this could bring some very dark days ahead.
Oh my goodness our Buckeyes