Mekhail Sherman Commits to Georgia

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BuckLife's picture

Didn't want him anyway.

“You know how they say we only use 10 percent of our brains? I think we only use 10 percent of our hearts.”

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buckbuck12's picture

Think we got enough Linebackers and the fact is that Case Stover is coming in who is massively underrated to.

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

Massively underrated? He was highly touted!

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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aj99's picture

I don't think Cade is close to the caliber of Sherman.

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Woodshed's picture

I couldn’t disagree more, and stover isn’t coming off of a torn acl.

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aj99's picture

Umm. Stover played against absolutely no one.  He hasn't seen any and I mean any decent competition. He's a big dude who knows the game and could dominate against the schools in the Mansfield area which I happen to know very well. They're not good.  Sherman played against the best schools in the nation. Every week Sherman was playing against one of the top programs while every week Stover was playing against the best Richland county Ohio had to offer. Stover might be solid. Sherman is elite.

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Woodshed's picture

Sherman didn’t play at all last year.

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KlayDog's picture

*Missed almost his entire junior season* Played against the best schools every week

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aj99's picture

Lol. You two don't read well, do you? You're projecting what you want to hear.  I never said a word about last year. The fact is that Stover hasn't played against top talent, and Sherman has. Even the scouting services note that as a concern for Stover. I've seen him play. I've seen the teams he played against.  They were terrible. He did very well against terrible competition.  He's unproven.  

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Woodshed's picture

Stover did what you would expect an elite prospect would do vs bad competition. 

Dominate. Just like Ezekiel Elliot did.

predicting how a kid comes off of a major knee injury before he plays a snap is dumb. Just like claiming that you know that stover "isn't close to Sherman" before either one has played one snap of college ball.

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aj99's picture

Come on.  I hear what you're saying.  But Stover is no Zeke. He's just not. Stover had a weird career. He even played some qb. It was strange.  I don't know if he ever got settled in to any position.  The competition he was up against was just that bad, and his coaching staff was all over the place because of their limited talent to work with. I agree that it's difficult to project careers, especially after an injury, but I'm not just spouting off crap because I feel like it.  The recruiting services kept Sherman a 5 star and still project him as a first round draft guy. Sherman is ranked 18th in his class.  Stover is 96.  They're not close. I hope Stover has an awesome career- I graduated from same high school a long time ago. But, I just don't see super star potential.  Then again people were saying similar things re AJ Hawk. My original point stands. I don't think we can just say, "No big deal, because Stover is coming." 

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stxbuck's picture

Exactly. In HS Curtis Samuel played against some of the worst teams I have ever seen-he looked like a human x-box out there.

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GunnerBuck's picture

Who has Sherman played against? 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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stxbuck's picture

I've seen St. John's play before(not recently-Andre Monroe-all B10 DT for Maryland a few years ago-was a senior)-they play a national schedule b/c the competition in DC/Maryland tends to be very top heavy. That said, an Ohio D1/2/3 playoff run caliber team-like Stover's-is nothing to sneeze at. The difference tends to come b/c the average good Ohio team is more solid, well coached, and executes better while the team like St. John's might have some talented freaks, but isn't as well coached/disciplined-both physically and mentally- as a whole. Also, a HS OL consisting of 5 6'0 230 seniors who are excellent, sound football players but not D-1 prospects for size reasons, will often wreak havoc against a fatter, more undisciplined defense, even if the defense has a couple of SEC caliber recruits playing on it.

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GunnerBuck's picture

They played.... they. Not doubting him, he's an elite athlete but you completely shitting on Stover is ridiculous. 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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LouBuck35's picture

*shrug*

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

He's a monster, but if we're going to lose him, it might as well be now so that we can turn our full attention to other recruits. Best of luck to him. 

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NHBuckeye's picture

Poop!  Oh well, it hasn’t been trending our way for a while.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Spanky3000's picture

It is very troubling how the SEC and ACC are raiding Maryland and Washington D.C. for elite players. That is supposed to be Big Ten territory and the Big Ten isn't close to getting any of them.

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buckslan's picture

Dwayne Haskins?? Chase Young??

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Spanky3000's picture

I am talking about this recruiting cycle. The emergence of Georgia and Clemson is really hurting the Buckeyes.

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tjjordan's picture

That's true but I'm not very worried Clemson showed me that you can win without having the best recruiting class they beat us and Alabama with classes that were ranked 11,9,16 and 15 according to 24/7 sports. If you get good players and hit on a few 5 stars I think you have a shot to be contenders. Anyway all this ranking stuff isn't perfect for example Shea Patterson and about 3 other QB's I haven't heard of to this day were ranked ahead of Haskins as a recruit...they definitely got it wrong on that . 

tj

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FunkyWorm's picture

Yep just look at the RBs ranked ahead of Zeke

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BuckZealot's picture

...Although Shea Patterson was the best quarterback in 2018 according to some Pro ranking site./s

Enjoy the wins over *ichigan, ....I still remember the dark days of the 1990's....

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Doesn’t hurt Clemson because they give steroids to its players. 

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NHBuckeye's picture

'That was accidental.  It's a funny story actually'.  -Dabo probably.

Fields of Dreams

 

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SaltyD0gg's picture

And cash.

Pain of Discipline

Pain of Regret

Take Your Pick

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chibucks's picture

not steroids...  vitamins.  

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seyekcuB's picture

I'm sorry but Ohio state needs to recruit Ohio more. Ga and FL sure but the recent classes have been way light on Ohio players imho.

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Hanawi_'s picture

The recent classes in Ohio were pretty poor. 2020 is looking good and 2021 looks like an excellent class in Ohio, so I expect double-digit commits.

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oztintacius's picture

Then you will have a team that is more like Kentucky than Alabama/Clemson.
 

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Hanawi_'s picture

It's really killing Penn State. Their class is looking like it's going to be quite mediocre. Think the bloom is off the rose for Franklin. He needs a big year this year or next to get momentum back. 

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KBonay's picture

It's really killing Penn State. Their class is looking like it's going to be quite mediocre. Think the bloom is off the rose for Franklin. He needs a big year this year or next to get momentum back. 

Uhh........

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Hanawi_'s picture

They aren't in on many top 100 guys though. They'll fall off quickly. 

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Hovenaut's picture

DMV and DC has been more of Penn State's territory throughout the years...Ohio State has had some recent successes (especially with LJSR's experience in the area).

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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Buck68's picture

spanky ... hurty?

Really?   ;-{)}

Perhaps we are a tad submerged in emergence.

Even the Coopster once said, "if you don't like it [getting beat like a drum by Clem & Joeja] ...

go DO SUMTHIN' 'bout it!"

A most welcome departure from his nolo contendre mantra of "I coach coaches"....

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NoMad Buck's picture

“Big Ten” territory? Are we taking pride in “Big Ten” recruiting accomplishments now? If so, the I’m sure you will be happy to know that Locklsey will have that area locked down soon enough, so score some points for the conference. He’s a bigger threat to that area.

I don’t care if we lose the guy to Georgia, Clemson, or Rutgers—it sucks. Fortunately, for anyone that has followed his recruitment, this isn’t a surprise. On to the next...

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OSU56's picture

Next Man up!

Enjoying daily the 62-39 ttun beatdown.

 

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ThePritch's picture

Feel like we’ve really been seeing some commitment percentage inflation, recently. It started at “100% committed” then we gradually saw it rise to the 110/120 range. Now we are all the way up to 1000000000%? These are some dangerous levels of inflation, folks

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FieldsofJreams's picture

So in 2019 what does 100000000% mean to a teenager?  Maybe like 60% lol?

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Not_Sure's picture

It means that he has already de-committed before even committing. Maybe we still have a chance. 

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LCT's picture

It's Zimbabwe territory.

Lifetime vs. UM: L 8-1, C 7-0, T 4-0

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Buck68's picture

;-{)}  "Inflation" you say?  

Yes, Virginia, the 'thing'...

[In this case, the sentence subject, 'commitment'... "it ... started...".]

... did it?

Thus... "the danger", is ever, not the inanimate 'thing'

...but ...whatever... 'level' I AM... 'on'... in my own mind.

====>OH the exquisite irony of a single word - "recently" - for what we have been doing since... uh... 'way back when'...?  In this moment of temporary clarity... IO ...a Uni-verse more, than i can repay.   

 ;-{)}

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buckeyeEddie27's picture

Sucks.

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

I Believe In Ohio State.

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buckbornbred's picture

Every cloud has a silver lining . . .
 

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DiasporaBuck's picture

Mekhail Sherman Commits to Georgia

That's a strange way to spell Ohio State

OSU Class of 1999

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

No worries, Georgia will misuse and underutilize him...

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tjjordan's picture

You hit it right on the nose I'm not predicting what Georgia will do with him but how you utilize players is sometimes more important than their talent. Look at all the talent we had on those teams after we won the title we should have been playing for a championship every year....also that Clemson team that beat us didn't have all the top rated classes like we did some of their classes were not even top 10. I believe if we get top 5 classes each year, have great game strategy and utilize players right we have a shot.

tj

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Look what Georgia did with Brenton Cox. He was a five star DE and they turned him into a LB. Had he come to Ohio State he would have been a top DE prospect and a top pick in the NFL draft. At Georgia, it seems that he isn’t being utilized to the best of his abilities. 

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tjjordan's picture

wow didn't know that no wonder someone said Georgia does the least with the most talent  

tj

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shawn kemps kids's picture

UGA runs a 3-4 defense with 1 DE, 1 DT and 1 NT on the line. Last year he played the Jack LB spot for UGA as a back up to DeAndre Walker, which for UGA is an "Edge" position. It's basically a combo DE/OLB spot. 

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Buck68's picture

Good!  This should help remove this distraction and illustrate the importance to adults of... self-control and patience.

[added]

Overall, IMO, 11W posters did a helpful job of pointing out some of the lesser caveats in this greater great one.  It's just not helpful selling your heritage for a... bowl of hype... even a bowl of soup.

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Ohio1111's picture

Day is a crap recruiter. Loosing big time recruits is just the reality now. Day Won’t last but 2 seasons here if this continues to happen.

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

I'm willing to chalk this comment to the OP not having his morning coffee yet. 

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Furious George 27's picture

I’d also say convincing a former 5* QB recruit to transfer is also a part recruiting. 

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

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BuckZealot's picture

And I think the Bucks and Day will be 'loosing' a can of whoop a$$ on the BIg this fall with said recruit.

Enjoy the wins over *ichigan, ....I still remember the dark days of the 1990's....

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Ohio1111's picture

Urban brought us to the same class as Bama and Clemson. That is the expectation now, but it seems that Day is content with going back to being a B level program. 

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GeorgiaBuckeye2114's picture

Urban spoiled us. There are only a handful of coaches that can recruit at his level. In Dabo's first 4 years at head coach, he only had one class in the top 20. Granted, he didn't take over a Ferrari like Ryan Day did. Give Ryan a year to prove himself on the field as a head coach in front of recruits and I believe that the recruits will come.

Additionally- I think it's time time stop bragging about bringing Fields in as some recruiting jewel. He wanted out of UGA and saw an open position at a top 5 school where he could start immediately.

"We talkin' about practice?!" -Allen Iverson 2002

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Hovenaut's picture

Agree on both points, and Day will prove his worth in due time.

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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Buck68's picture

IMO recruiting is a journey in human dynamics and relationships; of perseverance, not a place or a 'level'.

Just as 'versatility' is educational, positive, developing attribute in maturity....  Compare to Di-versity, which manipulates others by dividing and scattering.

Finally, IMO, since we're 'so great' and 'so smart', surely We of Ego [rhymes with WIGO]... spoil our selves.  Agree we 'adults'... often blame it on... whoever or whatever.   ;-{)}

And, once again, TODAY, "it is time"....  Rise & shine!

GO BUCKS.

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Ohio1111's picture

AGreed, Fields was looking for a way out and low hanging fruit. Additionally I give more credit to Haskins for his recruitment than Day as that’s where the real relationship was.

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Buckeye06's picture

I see you are just attempting to give credit to anyone outside of Day for any recruiting success and only blame Day for the failures

Fields is a Haskins recruit, even though Haskins only went top in the draft because of Day. Is Jack Sawyer a Johnson recruit, and Day gets no credit?  What about Miller and Wilson last year, who have basically said they are at OSU because of Day; how bout Harrison? We were losing ground with him when Meyer was HC and won that sweepstakes because of Day.

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drinks2muchcoffee's picture

Urban never landed more than two five stars in a class until his sixth year at Ohio State. Day could easily get two or three depending on what happens with Fleming and Milton. Yes, this Day class won’t be like the 2017 and 2018 classes, but it definitely could be in the range of the 2012-2016 classes 

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allinosu's picture

It appears to be on the defensive side of the ball only. With the crap we seen last year from our defense (which wasn't Day), it's probably going to take a very good year on the defensive side to show recruits we do have something to offer them. Fickell left and the LB play has been bad and Coombs left and the DB play has dropped, so it's time to bring it back.

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LCT's picture

This is a good point. We have some reputational rehab to do...there's a story on the home page right now about rebuilding our rush offense, for example.

Lifetime vs. UM: L 8-1, C 7-0, T 4-0

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

With such huge turnover on the defensive staff it will take a while to build relationships with recruits. Also depends on how our defense plays this year. If we play well, they will come. The Fickell loss was a huge blow to our defense and hopefully the new staff can return us to that level. 

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Buck68's picture

Will it "take a while"? 

Rather, doesn't this old human nature maxim, wile away the time:

"work expands to meet the time allotted".   ;-{)}

No wonder we so often 'don't have the time' to do it right...

but have years and years to do it over!

===>agree this is a huge year for our defensive coaching staff, and talented but under-performing players.  Agree with several that have pointed out the rashness of talking/marketing BEFORE the walk on the field this fall.  A reasonable recruiting point would be...

"We ask you, to let us show you on the field this fall - then decide between those who have been selling last year, and us... now.

GO BUCKS.

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Furious George 27's picture

One of the big reasons why Meyer hires coaches is based on their ability to recruit. So I doubt you’re knee-jerk reaction is an accurate portrayal of his ability. The negative on Day is he’s an unknown coach and the D was utter garbage last season. Every established program will use that to negatively recruit against OSU when it comes to elite prospects. Day just needs to win. As long as his offense is still dominating and the D turns around he’ll do that. For perspective, Dabo was a relative unknown and didn’t really turn Clemson into the power it is until 2015 and he’s been there since 2008. 

Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.

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Hovenaut's picture

Should that continue to happen, I'm concerned over how you'll be able to function here.

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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buckslan's picture

How the hell did this get 5 upvotes?

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NHBuckeye's picture

maybe he has 5 accounts.  

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stxbuck's picture

Are you always this dumb, or just pushing the panic button right now?

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

Can't blame him. Until our linebacker coaching proves it won't waste 5-star talent, I don't expect us to get these elite players at that position.

Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith

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BrewstersMillions's picture

Yep. This is pretty spot on. This is part of the transitional period. Day is a virtual unknown as a head coach. Great offensive mind but there are more established, well-rounded coaches.

I think that all changes after a season or two but for now, we will just have to ride it out.

We gon' be all right.

Proudly dispensing unbridled arrogance since 1983.

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oztintacius's picture

Folks in the south refer to OSU as "the place 5* linebackers go to disappear"; it is definitely used against OSU in recruiting.

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buckbuck12's picture

Yup he will get all the five stars we want once he goes out and proves this fall imo.

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Hanawi_'s picture

Insider from another board was pretty adamant that Ohio State dropped him due to demands he made. The reason he went home from his official early wasn't flight related. Similar story with Jarrett. Don't think Day is going to eff around with guys trying to play the game.

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osurox's picture

Care to elaborate?

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That's_Mr_Donald_Nicholas's picture

Like I said...unmarked, non-sequential bills in small denominations. /s

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Rico411's picture

This one hurts and after losing this recruit I find it hard to believe that we finish in the top 10 for this class. Smh

" we play to win the game "

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Zimmy07's picture

You’d think Georgia would be a bit gun shy of a Sherman coming down there from DC.

Too soon?

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TURD_BUCKET's picture

It may not do any good, but why stop recruiting the guy? Keep after him! 

“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden

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