I should add that different markets may air programming at different times and we're not in the Columbus market, so YMMV.
Thanks, GV9. I might have to check it out.
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on your own 100-inch 15K screen with quantum dots.
Everybody knows there's no suck thing as 15K...
Thanks for the heads, I will try to check that out.
Fields of Dreams
It’ll be riveting, I’m sure.
Spoiler Alert!!! Blue 64, White 10, Final.
But seriously, Hoak looks likes a very capable game manager and a good passer. Quick release. I didn't count but I'd guess that he took most snaps in the game. Great Pick Up in case Fields goes down or doesn't work out as the starter for whatever reason. I hope we see a lot of him in the Fall (2nd half) where he can get in some valuable real game experience in case he's needed to step up and win at some point.
If it comes down to Gunnar Hoak, we're in big trouble. Let's keep in mind, the kid was a backup QB at Kentucky. I don't ever remember a time when the backup QB at Kentucky was good enough to start at Ohio State. We needed him for depth, but hoping it doesn't come down to him.
Haven’t watched much UK football have you? UK doesn’t run anywhere near an offense that fits what Hoak does. Hoak was hands down the best pure QB on the team at UK, but Terry Wilson is more athletic and makes plays with his feet which fits much better into the style of offense Eddie Gran wanted to run. UKs offense last year was basically hand the ball to Snell, read options, wildcat with Snell, designed QB runs, shallow crossers and jet sweeps to Bowden, and a couple play action deep balls. That’s basically it. That’s Eddie Gran football.
Don't need to watch UK football to know that never (okay maybe the rare rare exception such as Tim Couch) has a QB at Kentucky been good enough to play at Ohio State. If we start settling for UK QB's, we're just never going to compete with Bama, Clemson, and Oklahoma. I get it, we had to take this kid for depth. I hope he sits thirds string and never sees the field, because if he does, we're screwed. There's a reason this kid ended up at Kentucky and not at a better school. There's a possibility this kid is a diamond in the rough, but very unlikely.
100% get what you're saying, and I have not seen a single Hoak snap so I'm not defending his play in particular. But being a backup QB means very little in the grand scheme of things. Haskins was a backup as well when he pretty clearly could have started anywhere. There could be any number of reasons he ended up at Kentucky including a simple bad decision on his part.
If he's third string, then he's behind Chug, another career backup. I don't want either of these guys to have have to start a big game, but I think that Day & Co can have at least one of them ready to play some meaningful minutes at some point during the season.
I wasn’t trying to act like Hoak was some diamond in the rough, but just saying that since he was the backup at UK so he definitely shouldn’t be able to play at Ohio State is a little bit short sided without context as to why he was the backup at UK.
Lets be brutally honest here, Ohio St IS NOT a QB factory. That could be changing under Day and I would be willing to bet he wouldnt have taken Hoak if he wasnt at least semi confident in his ability to play the game. He was at Kentucky. Not Columbus State or some Community College. At least watch the damn kid play before you make yourself sound stupid.
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I think it is obvious the Hoak, etc are not going to be a top end player like Fields may be. But the key is can they at least play at Kenny Guiton level?
Guiton was a 3-star kid who's best offer besides us were Iowa St and Kansas.
A bit undersized, not a strong arm, with decent mobility
and on his career completed 66% of his passes, threw 16 tds vs 4 ints, and nearly 900 yards and was key to at least 3 wins, Cal, Purdue and Buffalo in his last 2 years, he also ran for 7 YPC and a handful of scores
ie a game manager no doubt and I am not sure I would like to play Bama with him at the helm, but when Miller went down in those last 2 years, he stepped up and played more than adequately to lead the team to victory.
Now if Hoak and the others are closer to Bauserman or Bellisari or Moherman etc, then yeah we are in trouble
Should the need arise, Hoak doesn't have to be a stud to win games for us. He has to be a game manager, not make mistakes and get the ball into the hands of his play makers. Several teams win this way - Georgia, Michigan, Bama most years. I am not saying Hoak can guide us to a BIG championship and beyond, but I think he can win us a few games should Fields get banged up. We have talent surrounding him.
Guiton is the model here.
Prior to the Purdue game and actually the final minute of that Purdue game, Kenny had shown nothing to think he was capable of winning games.
Prior to that final drive in regulation here was Kenny's career stat lines
9 completions on 17 atts for 67 yards with 1 TD and 2 INTs, he had run the ball 9 times for 35 yards and 1 score. That a Career QB rating of 81.93
From that last minute drive on he went 80 of 117 or 68.4%, for 826 yards, 15 TDS vs 2 INTs and ran 44 times for 348 yards (7.9 ypc) and 5 TDs -- that's a QB rating of 166.6
Granted that's primarily against Purdue, Buffalo, Cal and Florida A&M, but still more than adequate to get the job done