Skull Session: Bosas' Mob Boss Ancestor, Gene Smith Doesn't Believe Urban Meyer Will Return to Coaching, and Guessing Ohio State's GameDay Dates

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Gene smith thinks urban won’t coach again..: also hopes he won’t coach again. 

Bosa should have had a huge moment, spear tackle Jon snow or something 

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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Buck298's picture

It would have been more interesting if Bosa was swinging a bat at a few heads. Speaking of familial historical accuracy. 

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BucksHave7's picture

Let Urban coach if he wants to.  We will always have a great football coach at tOSU no matter what.  Its like golf, worry about your maximizing your own game, rest of field will always be there to be beat you. 

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Buctor's picture

"rest of field will always be there to be beat you."

l'd prefer: "rest of field will always be there for you to beat."

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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kmp10's picture

Who's stopping him? Go ahead and coach again... but on your way to wherever it is you're going, know that you quit on Ohio State, that you unfathomably and arrogantly put Zach Smith above the program, and that you allowed a bitch like Courtney Smith, and an even bigger bitch like Brett McMurphy, to drive you out. Meyer's 55... five more years at his home state school coaching the program he grew up idolizing would have perfectly capped one of college football's great coaching careers, but Meyer walked. He can say it was due to the headaches, which are very real and very debilitating, I'm sure, but had last summer's insanity not happened, Meyer would be OSU's coach today, with or without headaches... and in spite of Michael Drake. If Meyer does go to USC or ND, he'll come for Moratti, Pantoni, and Voltolini...and maybe LJ. Let's see how many people want Meyer to succeed when he's looting the OSU program to help build the USC program. Elite football coaches are like elite NFL quarterbacks... there are only a handful to go around, and when your elite coach quits you usually can't just go out to the elite coaches tree and pick another one off the branch, even if you're one of the most storied, tradition-laden programs in college football history. 

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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BbBnD's picture

Michigan and USC agree with that last part. 

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BucksHave7's picture

Good point in that we forget Meyer's flaws. 

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ashtabulassassin's picture

Count me in the group of the more mature that want him to coach again even if it means taking his coaches back. CFB is just better with it's elite. I also care more about how much good he's going to do for those young men then anything else.
Also won't blame any coaches for following him. They need to take care of their careers and coaching for Urban has gotten many of them where they are and is a safer and usually higher paying bet than coaching for an unproven like Day.

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SilverHaven's picture

RER83, Gene always says the right things.  He may not do the right things, but he has that wonderful ability to always say the right thing, in the right way, with the right tone.

Ua Mau ke Ea o ka 'Aina I ka Pono. The life of the land is preserved in righteousness. (Hawai'i state motto) Aloha nui kakou.

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Buck298's picture

I am now convinced the Urban will coach again. He will be coaching coaches as an Athletic Director. And at OSU, and as Gene himself said, he's still young. 

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MichiBuck12's picture

Interesting stuff about the Bosa's great grandfather. Quick note though, theres still not evidence that Capone was behind the St. Valentines day massacre. Its the common belief simply because he would be the obvious suspect, but the actual evidence suggests it wasn't him. 

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blueblazer22's picture

This is true MB. It may have been Big Al and his associates, but it looks like there's is just as good a chance that it wasn't. I have taken the mobster tours around downtown Chicago that always stop at the site of the St. Valentine's Day massacre, and I forget the name of the rival but they always mention that Capone wasn't necessarily the guy for that one. 

There also used to be a restaurant out in the suburbs called Al Capone's Hideaway that had a bunch of Capone memorabilia which also queried that Al did plenty of interesting things but that the massacre wasn't him. Too bad the restaurant closed-it had a wonderful prime rib special on Saturdays. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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MichiBuck12's picture

The whole idea seems to be that it was an attempted hit from Capone on Bugs Moran. And that doesn't make much sense to me because 1. Moran wasn't there. 2. Capone knew Moran well enough not to botch the hit this badly.  And 3. There was never another attempt at Moran after this. Basically, if the St. Valentines Massacre was an attempt on Bugs Moran, it was an incredibly sloppy attempt. Al Capone was a ruthless son of a bitch, but he was never sloppy like this and I refuse to believe that the one time he got sloppy was the time he tried to take out his biggest rival. It just doesn't make sense. On top of that, Morans guys in that garage would have recognized the guys Capone would have sent to do the job and most certainly would not have gone down with such little resistance. 

I haven't been to Chicago in a really long time, but the next time I go, I plan on doing at least one or more of those gangster tours. I'm also going to the Mob Museum where they have the St. Valentines Massacre wall when I'm in Vegas later this year. To be honest that might be the thing I most look forward to doing out there.

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semperfibuck's picture

MB - you must be a real boring dude! :>)

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Monclovabuckeye's picture

If Accardo was questioned about his possible involvement in the St. Valentine's day massacre by police, do you think he gave them the shrug move?

I don't give a damn for the whole state of Xichigan.

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lamplighter's picture

Good Friday.

Who y'all got in the Derby this year?

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peidiwch â ffycin gyda'r Cymry
 

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BuckInNashville's picture

Don’t remind me. I drive up two hours every year to the Derby to meet friends from Chicago, Cincinnati, and Canton. But I promised myself after last year’s torrential downpour that’s I’d never do that again. It’s pouring right now and there is a 95% chance of rain all day in Louisville. Just not going to do it - you can’t even keep your racing form dry.

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BBQ_Fan's picture

I grew up in the 'Ville but went to Derby only twice. The first time was in the infield and the second time ,(about 30 years later) I was up in the Sky Terrace. It was unbelievably sloppy the second time, so I was fortunate - and I had table service. Anyway, Derby Day in the rain can be nasty for the horses and the fans.

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BuckInNashville's picture

Well, I woke up, and my crew called to ask what time I’d be rolling into Churchill Downs. I couldn’t resist. Actually it stayed dry until about 4:00 pm which made it a lot more tolerable. It’s too bad though, because it can be such an amazing experience and event when the sun shines.

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TMac's picture

Lamp - I'll go with Game Winner - won the Juvenile at Churchill Downs last fall. 

ONE Not Done!

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Dillon G's picture

I thought Meyer to Notre Dame makes the most sense, if he returned to coaching. Not that I want ND to move to the top of the football world.

Penn State, Michigan and a Big Ten Championship game all back-to-back-to-back should be worrisome, but honestly, bring it the hell on. It's just like the playoff starting a few weeks early.

Meanwhile on chickenshit Saturday....

#walkaway

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Schizo's picture

Shelly won't want to live in South Bend

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Iwouldliketotalktoyou's picture

No one wants to live in South Bend...FIFY. LOL

Gotta love it.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I’ve long been fascinated with organized crime and have known about “Joey Batters” connection to the Bosas since Eric and Cheryl Kumerow were at Ohio State. What I never understood and would be interested to know was how Palmer Pyle (who’s still alive at 81) could’ve let another man give his name to his children. It makes me wonder if Accardo—whose other nickname was the Big Tuna—might've had something to do with that.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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MichiBuck12's picture

I too am fascinated with organized crime and Al Capone specifically. I read this article a while back about the St. Valentines Day Massacre and found it a very compelling argument for the idea that Capone wasn't actually behind it like most people still believe.

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Bucky Buck's picture

From what I’ve been able to tell, Eric Kumerow’s mother Marie was married three times. Her second husband was former labor union boss Ernie Kumerow, who adopted Eric. He was also a pitcher at the Univerity of Illinois. Ernie was connected to the Chicago mob’s Southside Chinatown crew. This should explain why Eric kept the Kumerow name after Marie married Pyle. 

Born a Badger, Raised a Buckeye

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iowabuckeyes's picture

The way I read your version, you make it sound like Pyle was Marie’s third husband. I do t know how many times she was married but Pyle was her first husband. He and Marie eloped and he is Eric and Cheryl’s father. Kumerow adopted them when he and Marie got married, as this 1991 Chicago Tribune article states:

Kumerow`s genes have football in them. His natural father, Palmer Pyle, was an offensive lineman who was a Bear teammate of Ditka`s at one time during the 1965 season (as a taxi squader), and spent time playing in Minnesota, Oakland and Baltimore. Palmer`s brother is former Bears center Mike Pyle.

Kumerow`s mother remarried during his childhood, however, and he was adopted by stepfather Ernie Kumerow, a labor union president in Chicago and a former minor-league baseball player.

Kumerow declined to talk about Palmer Pyle and shuns discussions of personal family matters.

''My father played baseball, not football,'' he says.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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b01000100's picture

The New 10-Year War never materialized, partly because Urban Meyer left after Year 4, but mostly because Jim Harbaugh never beat him in any of those four.

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NOBLUE's picture

Mr Urban Meyer should sit down with The Senator and have a long talk about how to live a stress free life....

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rkylet83's picture

I’d bet Tressel gets stressed quite a bit as university president.  The key is moderation.  Some stress is necessary for growth, just not a constant all year grind.  

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Hovenaut's picture

The Lordstown, OH (factory town) link is a sobering, yet compelling read.

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Falcon Transport just [w/o warning] announced its closing the other day. 550+ jobs. Also, Austintown schools announced jobs cuts due to declining enrollment. 

Lordstown closing- which has been a concern around here for many years - will have a huge impact in this area, to say the least. 

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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Hovenaut's picture

That's very sad, I'm sorry to read.

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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Trebor40's picture

I am very sorry to read this for all in that community! 

I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk

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twotimebuck's picture

It's tough to study economic theory and reallocation (not meant to play on the plant closing phrase). Theories hold the merits of ithe efficiencies, but the stories of those affected are never really elevated or focused on. The people affected are more of a footnote in the story of rational markets.

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UFest57's picture

I instantly thought of Lima when I read the link. Wasn't shocked to see an Ohio city as the subject of the article. It's a sad and sobering reality for many. 

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Hovenaut's picture

Have an aunt and uncle in Lima, have been there for over 55 years now, they represent some of my last direct (that I'm close with) family left in the homeland.
 

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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mtrotb's picture

Kevin, how did your blue jackets make out last night?

mtrotb

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Guess the Bruins are alive for another game this series.

TennBuck16's picture

The factory link is quite sobering. Because of this (and many other) reasons, I will never ever buy a G.M. produced car. Profits over people will never make you a good business to work for or with.

Hello, my name is Rico and I like to party.

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UFest57's picture

Let's just all buy Jeeps. I love mine...trying to get my lady to get a new JL. Fun to drive and made right here in OHIO. 

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mtrotb's picture

I understand your point, but just the Wrangler is made in Ohio.  The other Jeeps are made in MI & IL.

mtrotb

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GlassCityBuckeyes's picture

The truck is as well

Noon games suck

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BucksHave7's picture

We forget that if Urban wanted to coach, he would still be our HC.  And that USC could pony up $8M/yr while tOSU couldnt.  Dont get that point. 

BucksHave7

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ashtabulassassin's picture

Too stressful to continue at OSU. The admin didn't have his back so I wouldn't want to if I was him anyways. But when your legacy of wins is basically perfect... Its way too stressful to keep that up esp at the school/legacy you care most about. Than to start fresh.

Buckshots... always there for you if you missed the news last month

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

The cafeteria link 

"If I don't get them now, I will get them tomorrow at lunch,"

Damn. That’s cold. In my elementary years we were always on the lookout for Madge - and her big spoon. Get a little too loud and she’d bang on that table like Lars. Lunch was in the gym and one end had a stage. Ultimately, you could get sent there - which on occasion....funny thing is my Mom even worked in that cafeteria [too]. 

And yes, I walked to school: both ways!

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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Buctor's picture

But was it up hill both ways?

I told an uncle that wasn't possible.  He said you dumb little kid, didn't they teach you the earth spins on a tilted axis?  

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Relatively flat actually. But I was paddled by El Principal - guy even lived in our neighborhood. Diff times. 

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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Buctor's picture

Got the paddle several times too.  Went to an Ohio public school with nuns, rulers to the hands were more painful.  Totally agree different times.  Was never afraid of school punishment, but scared to death to go home and tell parents!!  Was only spanked a couple of times, but that was enough to always be in the back of my mind.

I want to be very clear, my parents or teachers never beat me.  

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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Trebor40's picture

Agreed, we are certainly in an age of whine and become loud, not endure and become strong! 

I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Yeah Buctor. I got ya. I was never “beat” either. Now my 5 older brothers on the other hand....

I always joke I was a Momma’s boy and still got paddled by the principal who was a neighbor, at the school where my Mother worked! Funny. Could you imagine that now?

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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blueblazer22's picture

Kind of disappointing to read about the multivitamin link, but I guess it also shouldn't be shocking. I had taken one every day for years and years until recently when I ran out and simply decided not to buy anymore. I guess I will do my own case study now and check the results at my next couple of checkups and see if I am deficient in any way. 

If Urban does coach again, more power to him. For his health he shouldn't it seems, but if that challenge arises maybe he does it. And if so why anyone would begrudge him that is a mystery. I would have expected ND to be the school he would go to "rescue" but it seems that Kelly has done enough of late to stay employed there so who knows. OSU fans should enjoy what he brought to Columbus and for as long as he stays. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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McGrind's picture

Last year, I had Urb staying and Day going to USC. Complete power vacuum for west coast football. cali kids going to LSU and Nebraska? If college football continues down the regional (southeast) path...not good for the networks and hence not good for the NCAA. Clemson, Bama, GA and a midwest team to be named later starts to look more like hockey or nascar as a regional sport. 

If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

I'd argue Marotti, Mark Pantoni and Ryan Stamper were more crucial to Ohio State's success under Urban Meyer than Urban Meyer was, and Ryan Day gets to keep them all.

I don't know if I'd say they are more crucial than Urban, but they were and are definitely very important to Ohio State football. 

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

It's pretty clear that Meyer needs to do something with his time, and that's where the speculation starts. But there are a ton of somethings that don't include coaching football and don't turn his brain into a pressure cooker for three months of the year.

He's not the type to just sit around in retirement, but the doesn't mean he has to jump at the first opportunity to coach football again, either.

With UFM holding a Master's degree from TOSU, I think he'd make a perfect fit heading up the school's Alumni Association. Archie left behind some big shoes to fill.

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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cricejr's picture

Could we please stop talking about the Bosa?  I know there are people here who will defend anything to the death but they are no longer hear.  Plus the more I hear about Joey and their father beliefs the more I just want to distance myself from them and the fact that they even attended The Ohio State University when perhaps they would have felt more comfortable at Alabama or Mississippi or some other school below the Mason-Dixon line.

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Neutz's picture

Ok so you wish they never attended OSU because of their political beliefs? You need to be able to separate the player with their political beliefs. Im a conservative (on most issues), but I promise if we met we would get along perfectly fine. Ive met both Bosa brothers and they are good dudes. Maybe leave politics on the sideline and just enjoy your fandom for a few hours every Saturday. 

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cricejr's picture

No, it's not exactly their political beliefs but I won't get in depth about my rational because of site policy issues.  Also, I cannot just "leave politics on the side" as I do not have the same luxury as you to just forget all my troubles for 4 hours. And something tells me that your experience with the Bosas would me markedly different than mine, just do the research on papa Bosa, it's quite discouraging.

College football isn't an escape for me, it's a sport that I enjoy watching and supporting, but my support isn't unconditional.

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Neutz's picture

Care to explain why you don’t have that luxury? Forget me if I’m wrong but isn’t that kind of the point of enjoying a sport? And to give you some advice don’t refuse to associate with those who do not share the same beliefs as you. I’ve had some amazing bosses and friends who did not see he same as me politically. But we got a long fine because we’re both decent human beings. If you cut those out who do not vote the same as you then you’re cutting out half the world, especially in a very purple state like Ohio.

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Neutz's picture

And even if the father has done or said some bad things, which I have never even heard of, why would you hold that against his children? 

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Buck298's picture

I’m here for the football. 

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Nah, I’m going to talk about the Bosas just like I talk about every other former Buckeye. Probably more, in fact, because they’re even better at football than most other former Buckeyes, so they’ll be relevant for a while.

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Agree, wasn't a big fan of Cricejr's comment. Perfect example of someone who cannot separate their political beliefs from the rest of their lives. Probably the life of any party he goes to. 

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BuckNut_1974's picture

That's typical of many liberals/progressives. They love to make EVERYTHING about politics.

As long as their politics don't end up on the field, I couldn't care less about it.

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martin anderson's picture

Sounds like you're an elitist conservative snob

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Buck298's picture

So we now have to recruit players based upon their political beliefs? Ohio is a battleground purple state, which party are we supposed to choose? 

I do not care what party the players individually choose to embrace. Or not embrace any at all. 

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Freaks number 75's picture

Back to football, girls. 

Urban to USC is a joke. Period. 

"and there he is... The Big Kat"

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