The Real Reason You Don’t Want Coach Meyer Returning to Coaching (coach Marotti)

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Cincybuckeye's picture

Not only Coach Mick, but Pantoni and a lot of other support staffers would probably leave as well. It would hit us pretty hard.

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Neutz's picture

Oh man didn’t even think about Pantoni 

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LCT's picture

Program>Men

Urban Meyer didn't make Ohio State.

Lifetime vs. UM: L 8-1, C 7-0, T 4-0

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Neutz's picture

No doubt they would bounce back but the loss of Marotti and Pantoni would absolutely hurt in the short term.

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@osu.fbu's picture

Ohio State is bigger than these coaches, but losing them all at once would be a huge loss. Losing them gradually, I expect Day to find solid replacements and acclimate them to the program.

But if you're Pantoni or Marotti, how many times are you going to pack your bags for Coach Meyer? What if he retires again in 3 years?

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stuckupnorth's picture

A+ statement. Played in 3 national championships in the 10 years before he showed up, owned Michigan before he showed up, beat sec before he showed up.Tressel in hindsight woke the Phoenix 

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Extramedium's picture

The SEC did a lot more beating of us while Tressel was here than the other way around.  In fact that whole "SEC speed" meme started when Urban and Florida destroyed us in the Fiesta Bowl.  I could be wrong since I'm on 3 hours of sleep over the last few days but I think our only semi-notable win was over a not very good Arkansas that was vacated.

As far as the program being bigger than the men who run it, I'd say TTUN and ND thought the same thing.  We really can't take excellent coaches and their staffs for granted or just assume that we'll plug in another great hire.

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stxbuck's picture

I'm pretty sure that team that the Buckeyes physically kicked the shit out of in the 02' NC game under JT was faster than any SEC team-and from the same geographic area-just sayin...........................but don't let facts get in the way of a popular narrative. Besides, Florida's WRs and DBs weren't the difference in the Fiesta Bowl..........

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logamaniac's picture

I mean if you’re hanging your hat on that 02 game then you’re really patting Cooper on the back for stocking the kitchen aren’t you?

It was clear that tress had problems competing against a good spread and teams with athletes on a comparable or higher level including shitty Illinois.  If you want to blame his loyalty to his staff or players that’s fine but if a company takes a loss it’s typically on the head of the CEO.   Just like it is with Meyer underachieving here most years.

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stxbuck's picture

Damn right I'll give Coop credit for stocking the cupboard-younger fans still don't get the idea that tOSU football is bigger than any one coaching regime. Urban won the the 14' NC w/ plenty of JT recruits-and I'm sure JT was thrilled to see him do it with them.

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stxbuck's picture

"Tress had problems competing against good spread teams"-please tell me you are too young to have seen the 09' season Rose Bowl-Chip Kelly is rolling his eyes at your statement. Also, the ass kicking by USC in 08' was a lot of ugly things, but it wasn't getting outschemed/out ran by a spread team.

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logamaniac's picture

chip kelly is the king of the walk of doing more with less than anyone you'll see featured by the sporting world as far as coaches go.  I made reference to comparable/better athletes within that spread.  Zook went out and got better athletes than we were getting at the time and despite the fact he couldn't coach them, managed to beat OSU with them.  He also stocked Meyer's cupboard with them at Florida but didn't really get a lot of credit for that either.

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stxbuck's picture

The refs cost tOSU the Illinois game in 07', not Zook's acumen................they did have a nice team, but not enough to seriously justify your anti-JT whining

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CowCat's picture

I agree with you partly. After we got an a$$-kicking by Urban Meyer and the spread, Tressel adjusted. TTUN thought they could duplicate what Florida did and hired Rich Rodriguez. Unfortunately for them we were already prepared and he thought he could win with WVU-caliber players. We saw how that went. 

The differences between Meyer and Rodriguez's approach were the line game and the running game. Rodriguez thought the spread scheme itself would dominate. Meyer ran basically the classic OSU offense (power, counter) but he added the spread flavor to it.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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CowCat's picture

Tressel did have problems against the spread against Florida, for sure. But he and the defense figured it out after that, beating up on RichRod's teams and Oregon.

The difference with Urban's offense is that it's "power spread", a blend of spread formations, but running good old Buckeye run plays like power, counter and option.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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ashtabulassassin's picture

Extramedium's comment couldn't be better. The idea that OSU is fine without Urban is just silly. Tell that to USC... who by the way will also be fine again someday... the day they bring in Urban. 

Here is straight truth... your program is as good as your head coach not the other way around. If Michigan hires Nick Saban, you are playing a Nick Saban team in short order. Every single program Urban went to was best when he was running it. Utah wasn't a good program til they hired Urban. Florida was good but became elite because of Urban. You take Dennis Erickson out of Miami, a few coaches from notre dame's history out of ND, you remove pete carroll from USC... and what are those programs? nothing.

Buckshots... always there for you if you missed the news last month

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kmp10's picture

Urban Meyer didn't make Ohio State.

...church.

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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The Rill Dill's picture

Had NFL rosters and didn’t even make playoffs every season. 

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stxbuck's picture

Marotti is a huge upgrade from from the last dude JT had as S&C coach-a true strength coach, not a pretty boy body shaping fiend.

Just like Alan Johnson was a huge improvement over Coop's S&C guy Kennedy, for the same reason-football strength emphasis vs. looking pretty for the combine emphasis.

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Buck68's picture

LCT and all Buckeyes...

i'm guessin' "the list is long" of who "didn't"... and longer still is the list of those who 'feel' they 'think' 'i did this' AFTER it was 'deemed' 'successful'.  Such is the CYA caveat nature of human 'humility'. [Except for You and Me... and often i'm not so sure about Me.]

There are loads of us fanatics in, and wannabe in, the 'shovel-ready jobs' of our comments and feelings. In the same way doers distinguish themselves from talkers only, by their problem-solving, over-achieving actions, rather than claims in their words  ;-{)}

In terms of basic leader criteria - always have a backup plan.  For what, you did not ask?  Ans:  everything, and some things more than one.  "Developing" leaves no participant 'out'... and is a 'walk the talk' of Honesty and Integrity.  H&I are no less honorable or essential, regardless of who's wall they are written on...or not.  All thanks to The Unique Who!  ;-{)}  Otherwise, 'we' all would be 'left' with... the ubiquitous 'happenings' of 'whatever'...while deluding ourselves It is I!  'Honestly'... 'I AM right in my own mind'!  ;-{)}

Finally, it wouldn't surprise me if the inputs and comments on this thread have been discussed in some form, almost daily... from Day 1... and before.  That said, agree heartily with others on this thread, that every staffer cited has been what i would term 'exceptional' in his contributions to the transition to 'the Day Era'. 

IMO at the end of this 2019-2020 season, the transition that began well before [I 'felt'] it started... will be formally complete.

GO BUCKS.

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Wyandot Buckeye Fan's picture

Your exactly right! SOME people act like Ohio St. football didn't start till Urban arrived.

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The Rill Dill's picture

Urban Meyer= the coach that accomplished less with more. 

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Extramedium's picture

He certainly brought it out of a very dangerous period and onto another level of prominence.  Depending on who we hired after Fickell's interim season, we could very well have been the next MSU or UM.  

That season very clearly shows that the program isn't bigger than the coaches, and what a blind statement that is.  Meyer and his staff took almost the exact same players and went undefeated the next year.

Day's looking good so far but it's far from guaranteed he's be able to get anyone as effective as Marotti, or anyone else who might leave the staff if Meyer took another job. 

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logamaniac's picture

Mick just proved that S&C is an important aspect for the program.  He’s been great but if he leaves OSU will find someone just as qualified.  

One of the big complaints Meyer had day 1 when he got here was the lack of “football players” because we didn’t emphasize the S&C. 

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DiasporaBuck's picture

It wasn't SEC speed? /s

OSU Class of 1999

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mb5599's picture

if urban taking coach mick and pantoni away would cripple us, we are screwed anyway.  i find it hard to believe that both of these guys do not have assistants that they are mentoring to take over when they eventually leave (retire or new job).  if not, that is poor management and day needs to put assistants in their hip pocket to learn their techniques and how they make their decisions. 

Big B

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magruder80's picture

Why on earth would anyone train anyone on how they got to be successful at their jobs? They have tricks of the trade they use and things they have learned over many years of experience. To expect them to be 'mentoring' anyone is not the right train of thought, it is up to that assistant to pay attention and learn not the other way around.

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osu78's picture

I disagree. While it is important for the assistant to watch and learn, true leaders mentor those who may one day replace them. It give the organization long term stability and succes; in addition you get people who want to be there becasue they will learn and grow.

Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.

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BuckBornandBred's picture

Key Phrase here is “true leader”. My mentor told me that it is part of my responsibilities as a leader to train my eventual replacement. And he is 100% correct. 

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cpewster's picture

Both Marotti and Pantoni have trained guys under them how to do what they do. There's numerous assistants to both men. Someone would step right in.

Si vis pacem parabellum.

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OSU56's picture

Like next man up.....Next "coach" up......

Enjoying daily the 62-39 ttun beatdown.

 

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BuckIDave's picture

The way Coach Day convinced 2 Michigan assistants to come to OSU, I have confidence that he would find some very good replacements.

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stxbuck's picture

Mariotti is a native of Grove City, I doubt he would leave tOSU at Meyer's beck and call.

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kmp10's picture

Moratti was born and bred in Pennsylvania.

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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stxbuck's picture

D'oh-wrong Grove City, apparently................

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

His first job was at Grove City High School ---not too far from Columbus, OH.

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ELJTSA76's picture

Don’t mean to pick on you Styx - this is a “me problem.”  

“Beckoned call” is what you meant, I think. It’s a commonly misunderstood phrase.  “Drivel” is another. There are many. So many people repeat these terms without knowing the spelling or even the words themselves. It drives me nuts. Sorry. 

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Nutinpa's picture

Always good to have a resident linguist, 76.   

I am sure your (sic) the best!   Okay, that was our moment of levity here.  No more drivel.  Oops, I did it again, as Brittany Spears once cooed.

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Byaaaahhh's picture

Pretty sure beck and call is the correct phrase unless the sources I learned from are wrong.

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analyticalguy's picture

Beck and call is indeed correct

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stxbuck's picture

Nope, I meant "beck and call". Beck is being used as a noun, not an adjective. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/beck?s=t

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

“Beckoned call” ... So many people repeat these terms without knowing the spelling or even the words themselves. It drives me nuts.

Beck and call is the correct phrase.

https://grammarist.com/idiom/beck-and-call-vs-beckon-call/

https://writingexplained.org/beck-and-call-or-beckon-call

Shandy is not beer

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kmp10's picture

No, 'beck and call' is correct... at least specific to English language idioms.

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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Earle's picture

I thought beck was the bread they used for sandwiches back when it was still BW-3?

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Crimson's picture

I believe it's Buffalo Wild Wings & Weck (BW3).

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KCAlum's picture

Beck was a complete bum as a coach, we don't want him back! 

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osu78's picture

Are you saying the program was a complete weck?

Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.

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ShaneFalco's picture

I love asking for weck (remember beef-on-weck?) at BW3s just to get the dumbfounded looks on servers faces.......

I read blitz

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BestDamnTeamInTheLand's picture

Nope. According to both of these sources, the correct phrase is "beck and call".

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Fatpants's picture

“Beck and call” is proper 

PG <3 PG

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magruder80's picture

Regardless of where he is from, if the guy you have been with since Day 1 and had success with and told every new job this is my guy pay him what he wants.  You are telling me Mariotti wouldnt leave for that?  I am sure Florida said the same thing.

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countrybuckeye's picture

if your ‘tell’ is a ‘Beck’, then I would call 

“Save yourself and relax during every game. I recommend a fine bourbon.”

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wojodta's picture

I'd hope the assistants would be loyal to the program and not to a coach.

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

Didn't both Marotti and Pantoni basically follow Meyer from Florida to here (if you ignore Urban's 1 year retirement)?

Shandy is not beer

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MindSurfr's picture

...or did Meyer offer a lifeline out of a toxic environment?? 

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

I echoed this sentiment a few months ago but recently changed it a bit when i realized Pantoni runs the recruiting department but doesnt do much, if any, 1-on-1 recruiting with the kids. He can't. He's not an assistant. Pantoni's main job was making Urban's job (and now Day's job) much much easier. Who's to say if Pantoni were to leave that we wouldnt go to another major program with an up-and-coming recruiting person and poach them and not lose any steam?

As for Mariotti, he would hurt but we likely wouldnt feel that right away. It would take a few seasons when we find ourselves getting physically dominated by teams. Of course that's ONLY if we pick a replacement who isnt near as good as Mariotti. My guess is Mariotti has assistants he's mentored and we just promote them. I'd be fine with that.

Hopefully, one thing Urban taught Day was how to organize the OSU football machine so Day knows what to do if staffers start leaving.

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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Byaaaahhh's picture

Marotti leaving would be the best thing for the program his ways are antiquated and don't benefit the player at all if you ignore all the before and after pictures where ripped high school kids look like skinny toothpicks compared to their junior and senior pictures you should read a book called "body by science" by this one doctor where I'm assuming he says a bunch of stuff about how traditional knowledge on exercise is completely wrong I don't know I never read the book and this sentence is getting pretty long. 

Just thought I'd get this in before the real post comes :)

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Mean Mr Mustard's picture

Trainers hate the guy that wrote that book

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Daniel's picture

I was gasping for air reading that really long sentence.  A period every once in a while is a good thing.

Va Buck

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Mean Mr Mustard's picture

Sounds like you need to work on your conditioning

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Byaaaahhh's picture

How will I know you read everything I wrote if I give you an opportunity to stop?

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Buckfrombirth's picture

HAHAHAHA!!! Thanks for getting that post in under the wire, Byaaaahhh. It made my day.

I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.

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Spartan13's picture

The problem Urban would face at USC is they don't have as high of a commitment to winning as OSU. While the allure to build something new and live in Los Angeles as a final job would be very enticing for many on the support staff they would have to take a pay cut as OSU would be willing and able to offer a lot more money. USC would have to throw a lot of money at Urban and pay Helton/the staffs buyout, and USC isn't known for spending a lot of money. Also for most of the assistant coaches it wouldn't make much sense unless they would be getting a promotion, Hartline going to OC at USC is the only offensive option and I doubt Urban would give that to Hartline, and on defense Washington or Hafley are the only ones it would be an option for(LJ is too old) and Hafley turned down the Bengals DC job and will be the sole DC within a couple years. 

If it happens(doubt it) I could see Chris Ash going there with him but I doubt he could pull much from OSU. 

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MindSurfr's picture

We have to remember that Urban doesn't want to be babysitting kids.... who will be enticed by the allure of everything Southern Cali (LA/OC/LV) has to offer... Its too much of a headache that will affect his health. He's too smart to endanger his health. USC can't promise that all the players will be quarantined their 4 years. 

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adrianbuck's picture

lets hope he enjoys living in c-bus & enjoys retirement.totally keeping this option off the board.

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Earle's picture

The Buckeyes will be just fine.  Plenty of qualified dudes who would love the opportunity to ply their trades at The Ohio State University.

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

I'm not convinced Marriotti would leave OSU for somewhere like USC:

  •  His daughter is currently a student at OSU.
  •  He's a graduate of OSU.
  • He's lived all but about 6 years of his life in the Midwest; it's very questionable that he would want to uproot his home for a place like LA in the twilight of his career (he's at least 55 years old).
  • If Ryan Day is half as good as we think he is----being the strength coach at OSU will remain highly coveted.
  • USC can not pay him as much as OSU can (assuming OSU is willing to do it). 
  • USC's facilities are below OSU standards - yes, Urban could negotiate for a major upgrade; however, getting the funding and actually building it will take at least 3 years - when Mickey is pushing 60 years old. 
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OsuSuperman's picture

Do you think we could keep Pantoni as well?

Go Bucks!

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Hovenaut's picture

Took some scrolling, but found the comment I like best.

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buckeyeradar's picture

I too was looking for a crumb in this non-football time of the year.  I'm retired and it's the best job I've ever had and the Coach is beginning to get it as well.  Being retired I sometimes need to look to see what day it is, oh Friday. The rest of all y'all get back to work.

I may not be the sharpest crayon in the box but I'm one of the most colorful.

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binger18's picture

Pantoni's organizational skills with recruiting would be missed more than Marotti would be missed . Marotti is a great football s & c coach but has created problems with Ohio State's other 35 sports. Several years ago, in Ohio State's attempt to get Marotti more money to stay in Columbus without destroying the football salary structure for the more senior assistant coaches already on staff, Gene Smith made him an associate AD to oversee the other 35 sports S & C programs. The problem was that he did not have time to administer all of the other sports and the football program. His style, while successful for football didn't relate to many of the other sports...ie: 4-6 seconds, point a-b, quick bursts with rest in between doesn't equate to sports that may need long term endurance like swimming, water polo or track or flexibility like gymnastics. So Ohio State brought in an administrator from Tennessee to oversee Marotti's directions.  Ohio State has @ 8 other S & C coaches that divide up the remaining 35 sports ( most have 4 or 5 sports they are responsible for exceptions being M & W basketball).  They were immediately reassigned and given new teams.  So you had national championship teams that had their successful S & C coaches yanked from them with programs scripted for that sport that were being forced to implement similar football styles of conditioning. Many of the head coaches had to fight tooth and nail to keep their existing coaches from being reassigned  and some were not successful. The 2nd policy the new administration made was that the S & C coach must be present for all home matches/games.  That is not a problem with football with 7 home games but when you have a coach that may be assigned baseball with 30 home games, mens and womens track with numerous meets, volleyball with @15 home matches and swimming, many of which are played the same day at different venues, you can see where there are not enough hours in a day to accomplish this on top of regular training of 40 hours per week.  Many of the established and championship S & C coaches have left OSU in the last 3 or 4 years .While I'm sure Marotti is respected for football, he is not well loved within the rest of the OSU sports community.  Pantoni's recruiting skills would be musch harder to replace in my opinion.

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bd2999's picture

I would be more surprised that Meyer goes anywhere else honestly. I do think he wants to coach again. But given his health issues, it is hard for me to imagine he goes somewhere else, if they are as bad as what was reported and Meyer has indicated.

Not even sure why you would push for a guy that was struggling with pain like that without much that could be done about it.

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CowCat's picture

I honestly think it's highly improbable that Meyer goes anywhere else as a HC. He would be ridiculed by the media -- much worse than when he left Florida.

His family is in Ohio, and he would have to uproot his wife, children and grandchildren from Columbus. I don't think that will happen.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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logamaniac's picture

Or he brings his son-in-law with him and pays him well including padding his resume, bringing his family not including his son with him.  

I don’t think the media ridicules Meyer either because it gives them another iconic coach to follow at a program that needs to be back in the light.  The truth is college football is better with regional powers and there needs to be a power from the west. 

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buckeye_in_WI's picture

The real reason I dont want Urban returning and coaching a different team is because he is an absolute force recruiting. And his ties to Ohio would mean we would lose out on a lot of targets, both in state and out.

I'm holding out that these "Urban may come back someday" whispers mean only that hed consider taking back the tOSU job after Ryan Days time here is done. If we find instant success with Day and he wins a NC within the next 3 years, the NFL is going to come calling and they will push hard for Day. I'm not sure where Days priorities would fall in that scenario, but he may take an NFL job.

A Meyer-Day-Meyer sandwich would be just ok by me :)

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Brutus Buckeye's picture

Ryan Day will knock it out of the park and get poached by the NFL, then Urban will have to come out of retirement and coach Ohio State. 

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YinzerBuck's picture

I think Urban would be miserable in LA. He'd never see Shelley, his kids, or his grandkids.

There was an article about the USC coaching staff when Carroll was still there. His guys were sleeping on air mattresses in their offices because the commute was awful. Compare that with a 10 min car ride from Muirfield to the WHAC.

I don't see him embracing the SoCal life the way Pete did.

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bucknut1994's picture

I get what you're saying but it isn't a 10 minute car ride from Muirfield to the WHAC anymore.

#94Ways

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stxbuck's picture

Columbus-20 minute drive to anywhere. Helluva lot better than any USC commute.

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ShaneFalco's picture

Spoken like Fred Ricart..........

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

That's a really good question. Urban Meyer gave them a pretty massive platform to stand on, so would they follow him out of loyalty? Or stick with the brand that they're currently taking to levels previously unseen? No way to answer that, especially when you think about personal relationships being involved. 

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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29Peck39's picture

Personally, I feel that based on Urban Meyer's accomplishments at OSU, he was treated pretty shabbily by the powers-that-be over the course of the last year. I have watched coaches come and go since Woody's early years. There is no doubt that all those coming to OSU enjoyed the benefits of the Scarlet and Gray prestige. It still takes someone to put everything together into a cohesive and productive unit. Meyer's first head coaching job was at my alma mater, BGSU. His coaching skills could definitely be observed and appreciated there. One thing that I really loved as he proceeded along his stepping stones to Columbus was the fact that he was an Ohioan who really wanted to be on that list of successful Buckeye coaches. Will he go to USC? Only time will tell. But I think it would be mainly for the money, not his intense love for their program. Now it is up to Ryan Day to maintain the legacy.

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GunnerBuck's picture

Are we sure Mick would leave? Yes he's got Urban connections but he's also got Ohio St connections. He graduated from Ohio St and was a Grad Assistant after the fact. He was also at ND for 5 years after Urban left, coached at WVU and Cincinnati. He's build a giant at Ohio St and has been here for 8 years now, I'm not really sure he's down to up and leave. Especially with his daughter on the softball team and his whole family being Ohio St graduates. 

Now Pantoni, I think theres a logical case he could leave but again, he's been here 8 years now and also has 2 young children. Not to mention he's helped create a monster and if/when Day can expand on that and keep dumping trucks of cash up to his house, Idk if he'll be leaving either. 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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6foot1athlete's picture

Urban's not coaching. Per Reggie Bush, Can we spread this like wildfire on this board and other Ohio State Football Boards? click the link. https://youtu.be/grPFSaqGirA

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Nice try bruh

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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dkgaffney's picture

There will be rumors of Meyer coaching somewhere else for the next 15 years

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Zonabuck's picture

Which is funny, because a lot of success Ryan Day and staff are having in recruiting this year is because other coaches are throwing around the “Urban’s going to retire within the next year or two”. I think Urban did a much better job of being CEO at times at OSU than he was at Florida, but he’s retire twice now do to two different health issues. I’d be extremely surprised if he returned, and at this point I wonder if his guys would follow him to Cali. 

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Independence Village 22's picture

Would be Florida x10. He would be hated by most fans. His track record of turning assistants into Head coaches would make him desirable. He could dominate the pac-12. Doubt he would ever win another title but he would probably come damn close.

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Belliott's picture

And that says nothing of the negative recruiting he’d get because of the smith situation and how bad the defense was last year. 

“You really want to send your kid to school with a coach that allows nepotism to reign supreme and who will allow people like that to run wild around your kid?”

agree or not, fair or not, but that’s going to turn a lot of parents off. 

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NoVAsmitty's picture

I think the negative would more likely be “you want to play for a guy who retired THREE times?  How long until the INOPERABLE brain cyst forces him to retire for the fourth time?”  He knows the only way he could coach again is if he can say the inoperable brain cyst has been successfully operated on and removed. And then the questions become “were you lying then or are you lying now?”

Urban will never coach again. 

“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman

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stxbuck's picture

If Urban takes another high profile job he will lose some credibility on the recruiting trail/coaching circles. USC is recruiting godawful this year tho, so their AD/boosters won’t care-they need help.

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kmp10's picture

...but he’s retire twice now do to two different health issues.

Thrice...  two times at Florida, and then last year at OSU. He has as many "retirements" as national titles, and he's now crossed over into 'the boy who cried wolf' territory.  

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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Octobersownlibra's picture

Meyer had a lot of respect for ohiostate even by helping having a plan in place when he retires. Not so sure urban would automatically just go after pantoni and mick...then again who knows

Also the media when or if Meyer ever coaches again...will be say the least very very interesting especially the impact it may or would have on field or off

Ryan day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Losing Marotti would sting the most. Everyone knows what he means to the program. Pantoni the 2nd most. His job is to make life easier for Ryan Day. Everything Urban did to set OSU up for future success would be for nothing if he comes back next year and raids our staff. His word would be bullshit in Columbus, where his family lives mind you.

Then again maybe he wants to shove a big middle finger at TOSU BOA and President. Get back at them over last August and weaken a potential CFP and recruiting foe in one fell swoop.

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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Rockfordbuckeye's picture

I personally could care less if he coaches again though I do believe he loves Ohio State and is being sincere.  Hearts can change though and he’s a fiercely ambitious man.  He may not know himself yet how he’ll feel in 2, 5, 10 years you know?

I have always felt sad Tressel never returned to it too even though he seems happy though perhaps a bit wistful at new gig. 

If he does coach again I look forward to some epic game day posters. 

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