Not if they're realistically comparing the team, Not if they've watch the games.
No wait, ya, it probably is brutal.
Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!
Thanks for the comparison. I didn't feel like digging through the data.
Let's Go Bucks
I view it a bit differently: it shows they are stil attracting some bona fife NFL talent and Ohio State is still emerging victorious year after year and, in the most recent instance, in a blowout.
I also found it of interest that the University of Washington had four players selected in the first two rounds. I realize one of them was unable to play in the Rose Bowl due to injuries but, still, UW’s record in the NFL draft underscores that the Buckeyes were not exactly playing against slouches on New Year’s Day.
That should read “bona fide.”
That should read "bona fide".
I knew precisely what you meant, '47. No need to self-correct. You're good.
Washington has been producing drafted players for a few years now. Makes you wonder why they can’t put it together in that shitty conference though.
Washington had 8 overall, tied for third with Oklahoma and behind OSU (9) and Bama (10).
It’s crazy that Jake Browning started four years, went 39-15 as a starter and threw for 12,028 yards and 93 TDs and wasn’t drafted. And Myles Gaskin also started four seasons, ran for at least 1,000 yards each year and is Washington’s all-time leading rusher and he was 20 picks away from not getting drafted at all.
UCLA had one player drafted: Mr. Irrelevant 2019, TE Caleb Wilson.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
Anyone have a count for all colleges? I only found the first few rounds.
"I'm not going to lie. We're anxious to be a part of a matchup like that. It's two states that love the game of football." -Jim Tressel
But wait - where is Tennessee? ;0
Michigan tied with Kentucky at 5 each.
Send the Earth Reverberating
3 of Kentucky's 5 are Ohio kids. Ohio high school coaches doing work.
I'll take "Who's got it better than Michigan?" for $1000 Alex.
AKA the Horseshoe, the Shoe, and the House That Harley Built
The cycle continues.
Those five are just a mirage.
Fuck eSECpn and fuck Mythigan.
I really can't stop laughing at Rashan Gary being drafted at #12 by GB. To me, that was just as shocking as the Duke QB being drafted by the Giants at #6. Both picks floored me. For contrast, Chase Winovich was drafted by some team at #77, iirc. [shrugs] Hey, I guess that's why I'm not a scout.
As a Vikings fan I love what Green Bay did.
Head scratchers to be sure. Especially Jones over Haskins. Haskins had double the yards and TDs with less ints against much stronger opposition, playing his best games much better against the strongest teams. Add to that that Haskins is intelligent, articulate, comes from a good family and was mentored by Day (one of the best in the game), and you have a classic example of colossal fail.
"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."
Add to that that Haskins Jones is intelligent, articulate, comes from a good family and was mentored by Day David Cutcliffe (one of the best in the game)
Your postscript doesn’t fly if it’s supposed to give Haskins some kind of an extra advantage over Jones.
As a Packers fan, I concur. I even have a Michigan/Packers fan friend who thinks he's trash. I was happy with the rest of GB's draft, though. The Pack usually screw up their first pick for some reason, so I'm used to this.
Hey it was a good thing Karen sat out that bowl game.
5 is actually one of their better years, is it not?
A quick google and wiki confirms. They had 11 in 2017 as an outlier. You have to go back to 2008 to where they had more than 3 in one year.
With 11 players drafted...they easily won the natty that year...no?
Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP
Looking back at the recruiting rankings I'm surprised UM had that many. The eligible players are from the '14 class (#20), the '15 class (#37), and the '16 class (#8). The three top picks were all from the '16 class (Bush, Gary, & Long), which makes sense as all were top #100 national recruits. Gentry was the only guy drafted in the '15 class. Karan Higdon & Tyree Kinnel singed contracts, but were undrafted from the '15 class. And, Chase Winovich was the only guy drafted with no one else signing from the '14 class. Notable recruits that didn't get signed or drafted were Drake Harris, Bryan Mone, Michael Ferns, Lawrence Marshall, & Brian Cole.
That being said, the next few classes lack the outlier that was the #37 recruiting class in 2015 when Hoke was on his way out the door, so that number may tick up a bit in the coming years. Although there has been quite a bit of attrition from the '17 class with Aubrey Solomon (#23), Drew Singleton (#79), James Hudson (#231), Corey Malone-Hatcher (#238), O'Maury Samuels (#269), JaRaymond Hall (#301), & Benjamin St Juste (#338) all no longer with team and/or medically retired.
Strength equipment is expensive & guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free & will give you everything you need.
McGrind=mcfunny! Good one
Banks of olentangy
Even with 11 they still can't win the game, natty yada yada.....
Enjoying daily the back to back ttun beatdowns.
Another example of why recruiting matters. OSU '14 class #3, UM's '14 class #20. OSU's '15 class #7, UM's '15 class #37. OSU's '16 class #4, UM's '16 class #8. Notable rankings of drafted players:
That's 9 guys drafted from the top 250 recruiting rankings for OSU compared to 3 from UM. Also, what doesn't show up is all the highly ranked guys from OSU that didn't get drafted (possibly yet). This gives OSU the advantage of not needing as high of a success rate with their top recruits working out whereas when UM's don't work out, because they have fewer of them, it's a bigger hit. When guys UM banked on like Brian Cole, Brandon Peters, Kareem Walker, Drake Harris, Michael Ferns, & Lawrence Marshall don't pan out it's a bigger hit with less guys behind them to fill in. Kudos to OSU for their recruiting success paying dividends.
Wow. Good analysis Maine. That UM 2017 draft class of 11 were all Hoke recruits and I think Jimmie’s best opportunity to beat Ohio State and win the Big Ten that isn’t coming along again any time soon (unless Day falters). Anything can happen on the football field, but as you point out it’s not just overall class rank but depth of class and development of said class. And some guys just aren’t going to pan out and a school needs enough depth of talent to make up for it.
I think Winovich was the last of Hoke’s recruits (2014 class). I think the other four guys were Harbaugh’s first big class (2016).
“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman
Thanks, and agreed. UM's best shot was '16 relying on the strong '12 & '13 classes. On paper you'd think UM's next good shot is next year relying on the strong '16 (#8) & '17 (#5) classes. However, when you dig a bit deeper you see there is quite a bit of attrition from the '17 class with Aubrey Solomon (#23), Drew Singleton (#79), James Hudson (#231), Corey Malone-Hatcher (#238), O'Maury Samuels (#269), JaRaymond Hall (#301), & Benjamin St Juste (#338) all no longer with team and/or medically retired.
I don't think they'll miss Singleton, but I am surprised he decided to leave. Him, James Ross, Jordan Anthony, & Cam McGrone were all competing and 1-2 of them weren't going to play much. Solomon & Hudson are the big hits. The word on Solomon was he was a beast when healthy, but wasn't willing to practice/play if not 100% and Brown & JH are not OK with guys not being tough. His presence on the interior of line was missed last season and will be again next year and will force freshman Mazi Smith or Chris Hinton to contribute early. Hudson is a bit of a mystery. I think he was going to make a good RT, but rumor is he wasn't happy when his spot on the depth chart wasn't guaranteed when he returned from injury. IMO he could have earned it back relatively quickly from Steuber, but instead elected to pack up & leave.
Long story short is the attrition will make the contributions from the '17 class less than one would expect just looking at the class rankings, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. The offense should have most of it's weapons ready, but the defense lacks the star power in the junior and senior classes.
I'm not sure why this comment received 3 downvotes.
Good analysis/statistic to point out, and you gave us credit for our recruiting in recent years.
I’m confused. Does this mean Michigan isn’t underachieving on the field?
Losing games has many reasons related to performance on the field, and one of them isn't an "excuse" or a "mirage".
Of the last 5 years, Ohio St's had 40 player drafted vs 24 from Michigan. Including 11 from 2017.
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