Don't Sleep on the Buckeyes in the Later Rounds of the NFL Draft

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Knarcisi's picture

I think Michael Jordan will be a real value pick.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Agreed.  I'd love to see him end up on my Browns.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Knarcisi's picture

Kid was a 3 year starter, from his true freshman year. He’s still a year or 2 younger than other guys being drafted. I think he took one for the team and moved to C, as G is his more natural and better position. And he’s got a bit of a nasty streak. For selfish reasons, would have loved for him to stick around, but I think he cost himself a few rounds and some cash as he could have moved back to G this year with Myers coming on at C. 

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Buctor's picture

"And if that was you, know this: you are a naive child and a traitor to the cause. How dare you, sir or madam? How dare you!"

Curious, does this sort of writing promote clicks?  

Does sort of give insight to the writing of some,of the commentators.

Guess it's just not my cup of tea!  

Been around awhile, never saw telling others they don't measure be successful in accomplishing any meaningful goal.  Especially when addressing complete strangers.

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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Knarcisi's picture

The writer is just having a little fun. 

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Buctor's picture

Expected someone fo respond this way,  Don't get or understand the use of Francis.  But put it in the same box.  Have absolutely no problem with someone disagreeing with my or any other opinion.  Just flat out do not understand the belittling of others.  It certainly does not help prove another opinion more correct.  In most cases I usually read those type of responses as the writer not having the ability to counter whatever the last point.

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Buctor's picture

The image wasn't up when I responded.  Still do not recognize.  Any explanation?

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Knarcisi's picture

It’s from the movie, Stripes. 

The writer is joking around with the reader. I’m not sure how that’s not understood. 

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Buctor's picture

Thanks, have seen the name used often, just did not get where it was from.  Did see that movie. Don't remember the Francis thing though.  That was what was not understood.  Again, I do not see the original quote as humorous.  Generally speaking, the 11W folks writing can stand on it own.  It does not need the name calling.  Just an opinion.  Obviously you have another.  That's fine with me.  

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85ThruTheHeart's picture

It’s just a way to lighten up a script and make it more conversational. Text is a hard medium to not always sound monotonous. “How dare you” is a common rhetorical, comedic line. I’ve seen it used in just this way many times in many different movies/shows. The writer here was using it ironically as a way to punctuate his fake disgust about a topic that he knows is really unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

"He has that look in his eye when it's time to start feeding the beast" UFM on EZE

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Oakland Buckeye's picture

Knars FTW!

OBTW Will Allen has never been a linebacker, DB at Wayne high school, DB in the NFL

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Johnny Ginter's picture

ah brain fart, i'll fix that.

Wilkins78's picture

Dude, breathe.  Also, google is a wonderful tool.

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buckme's picture

Then, how about...... lighten up Buctor. 

Head north till you smell it, west until you step in it

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Knarcisi's picture

I tried to help you out, there, Johnny. To no avail. 

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semperfibuck's picture

Wish Eleven Warriors would ALWAYS annotate pictures with the names of those shown... saves a lot of time on frivolous research!  It’s my primary complaint about the site... which I otherwise love.

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Knarcisi's picture

Nate Ebner and Reid Fragel (when he was a TE, before going to OT). Then again I’m a die hard, and I’m really not right in the head. 

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Buctor's picture

In spite of my comments above.  Heartily agree with the position that the rounds after the first are every bit as important.  Not sure how you ratio the greater number of players, but would not be surprised if some wiser person looked at a clearly defined criteria for success and found that the success rate for the latter rounds was quite high.  Also suspect that the results would parallel the HS star ratings for success.  A good or better indicator, but certainly no guarantee.  

Maybe a good start would be to compare OSU vs TTUN.  Their famous qb would give them a good start, but there is a long, long list of OSU success in the NFL.  Also be fun to compare success of higher rounds between the two.  

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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Sonof'47alum's picture

The significance, I think, of the NFL draft is just how many players do come out of the later rounds and become real contributors to a team’s success.  

Re first round not being the be-all and end-all: as a longtime diehard Knicks fan, I will always remember that perhaps the most influential Knick of my lifetime, Willis Reed, was only a second-round pick.  (Admittedly there were only nine NBA teams back then and he was the first pick of the second round but still..,)

The Knicks were trying to decide between Willis and Jim “Bad News” Barnes, out of Texas Western, and opted for Barnes.  But thankfully Willis was still there in the second round because the legendary Red Auerbach made perhaps the biggest mistake of his career, drafting Mel Counts right before Willis!

That mistake ultimately helped fuel the complete turnaround of the Knicks franchise.

The bottom line: there will be plenty of “influencers” in the second round on in the NFL draft.

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Buctor's picture

Havlicek made me a Celtics fan.  But had they had Rheed, hard to say how many more titles they might have had.  Of coarse I am not smart enough and do not have a good enough memory to know how he would have changed who they got later.  But he was amazing to watch.  Vaguely remember him being injured enough, he had no business being on the floor, and still taking over a game at the end.  

BTW, great example.

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Sonof'47alum's picture

Thanks.  I think most people don’t realize just how phenomenal Reed was and how he might have helped revolutionize the game because unfortunately his career was cut short due to injuries and, basically, after the Knicks’ first title in 1970, he was never the same player due to his injury woes.

The irony is that both Willis and Bernard King developed major injury problems at the young age of 27—and they were two of the most popular and greatest players in team history.

What made Willis unusual back then was that he was a center who could shoot from the outside.

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Trotwoodbuck's picture

If only players drafted in the first round had meaningful NFL careers the league wouldn't have enough players to field eight teams.  I go back far enough to recall high impact guys like Charlie Hall, 9th round out of Houston and Brian Snipe, 13th round out of San Diego St. IIRC who were Browns favorites.   Guys are drafted based on perceived potential, but none of them, regardless of draft position, have ever played against NFL competition and it is anyone's guess how successful any of them will be at the next level.

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buckme's picture

Snipe???

i know, I know, lighten up, Buckme!

Head north till you smell it, west until you step in it

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Steelydan54's picture

We are clearly an NFL farm team, and have been so for Several decades. Rounds 2 and following is where NFL GM's make their living much more than First rounders, and the Buckeyes have filled the ranks admirably. 

Steelybuck54

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MindSurfr's picture

If there is great debate about the contribution levels of the later rounds, why not just have 3 rounds, then have everyone else be Free Agents? It gives teams better ability to build better units based on more players of similar skill sets, it gives players better leverage into which teams they want to play for because of the fit and development potential, and the networks can have different hype to fill air time because very few people stick around for rounds on the last day(s). 

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