Here we go Brownies, here we go!!!!
It's so weird that I was more looking forward to the Browns schedule reveal than the draft.
Same. Never cared about the schedule reveal in my life until this season.
Haskins will be a Raider. Book it.
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I agree with most of this. The team's got holes all over (OL, LB, WR) so I'd be able to give you a better idea of who I'd want or wouldn't want depending on however the board falls tonight.
From what I'm hearing now the Devins probably aren't going to be there at 11, and Dave Lapham has put his pick in as Andre Dillard. Lapham supposedly doesn't have the connections with the team that he used to have, but when he used to give his pick it was usually about 95% accurate (I think Ross was his only miss) so that's something to keep in mind. There is absolutely zero chance Oliver makes it to 11, but I'd take him in a hearbeat. I agree that defensive end looks solid for the future with Lawson and Hubbard. Jonah Williams will also likely be off the board from what I'm hearing, but Lapham said he'd be the guy if he was still there.
Haskins? Ahhhhhhh. The potential is there obviously, but I also acknowledge his risks. It sounds like this will be Dalton's last season in Cincy no matter what though, so if they feel like Haskins or Lock is there QBOTF then so be it. They're going to have to find that guy eventually.
Dalton's contract goes through 2020 (though I believe the team has an out from it after this season). If the Bengals don't take his heir apparent in this draft he most certainly will still be a Bengal for the 2020 season. All Mike Brown has revealed is that the team has no intention of trying to extend Dalton right now. That could easily change if Dalton comes out and plays like he did in 2015 this coming season.
I knew they had said they would not extend his contract, but I thought it was up this season for some reason.
Regardless, Taylor is probably wanting his "own" guy sooner rather than later. Latest rumors have the Bengals not taking a QB though (but maybe taking a guy like Ryan Finley in the 2nd - 3rd).
The Bengals will take a QB at some point in this draft because of how horrible a backup Jeff Driskel proved himself to be last season. Finley could be an option. So could Clayton Thorson, Brett Rypien, or even Will Grier (if we were to get him in the 3rd or 4th I'd be delighted). The only QB in this draft that I'd say hard pass to at any spot is Jarrett Stidham (who turns the ball over at the rate of Rex Grossman).
Hey come on now...Driskell was pretty good at tip-toeing the sideline for an extra yard on a scramble to turn (another) busted play into no gain rather than a 1 yard loss :)
Driskel is a good athlete who can run. That's about it. As a passer he's on the level of Nathan Peterman (without all the INTs, Driskel was actually decent at taking care of the football last season).
So in other words, not at all on the level of Peterman?? Nathan Peterman's entire NFL existence is defined by the word INTERCEPTION.
Is WR really a hole? Green/Boyd is a really good 1-2 combo. Unless you think Green is on the decline?
The concern with WR is that Green hasn't played a full season in 2 out of the last 3 years and he and Boyd are both going into contract years. I think it's likely they both return (both of them want to return for starters and Mike Brown has explicitly stated that he wants to get AJ's deal done ASAP). But last year when both Green and Boyd went down for the season none of the other WRs stepped up. Now I think Ross can be good in the right system with an offensive-minded coach who isn't Marvin (he never seemed to care for Ross all that much) but he's still not a number 1 WR. If the unthinkable happens and both Green and Boyd leave after the 2019 season we'd have a huge problem on our hands at that position.
I personally think it is although it's rarely talked about. Green will be 31 this season. Boyd has proven himself to be a very good #2 WR, but beyond those two what do they have? Ross has been absolutely useless (I'm not holding my breath this season). Guys like Erickson and Core are #5 types at best, and Malone hasn't done anything either.
Luckily for Cincy, if they are targeting WR, only one went in the 1st, so they can probably nab a quality guy tonight.
I'd love it if we got Haskins but I'd prefer it if we put a good offensive line in front of him as well. At the top of the list of who I don't want is Rashan Gary. Taking him at 11 would ruin my night. Daniel Jones would be just as bad. Montez Sweat is an intriguing prospect but his heart condition makes me think he may not have much of a future in football. Lapham's prediction (Dillard) would most certainly make me happy as would either of the Devins.
Like-Dwayne Haskins, Ed Oliver, Devin White, Devin Bush, Jonah Williams, the Florida OT
Dislike-a TE, QB not named Haskins, Dillard or Cody Ford-higher rated OL should be available at #11, as should one of White or Bush
Add bum shoulder Rashan Gary to the dislike list. He's my biggest nightmare pick at 11 at this point. As far as TEs go if we took Hockenson at 11 I'd be shocked but I wouldn't hate it. He and Eifert would be an incredible tandem at TE if by some miracle Eifert managed to stay healthy for a whole season.
Hockenson will be a fantastic NFL TE and Dillard is very good and probably a very safe OT pick. With the recent adventures in the first round I would be ok with either of these safe players and get more value later in the draft like the Bengals normally do.
If Haskins is there, he's gotta be the pick. I don't think Haskins, Devin White, or Oliver will be around that late. I'd pass on Bush.
If Bush and Dillard are both there it's a toss-up. I like Bush enough but he's built more like a safety than a LB and OT is overall a more important position. For that reason I'd go with Dillard and hone in on either Mack Wilson or Blake Cashman in the 2nd Rd.
Bush weighs 235 and ran a 4.43 he is an insane athlete and not undersized in the slightest. I agree though Cashman and Wilson later and we get Dillard in round 1 would be fantastic.
Rumors have the Falcons and Steelers trying to trade up into the top 10, with Bush likely being the target for Pittsburgh. A lot of people think Denver takes Bush if he gets there. He won't be there at 11, but he's the type of LB the team needs. Their LB corp is brutal.
Cashman is underrated for sure. I'd have no problems with him in the 2nd round.
I would be excited if we took Haskins, but man it would suck to watch this team struggle so much at RT or LB again. As such, my wishlist goes something like this:
1. White (not likely to be around)
2. Taylor or Williams
I dont want to see Haskins go to a team that has no OL and see Haskins start only to get killed like David Carr did his rookie year for the Texans and it forever affect his ability to play.
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The Bengals O-line is not good right now but they are a much better team overall than the expansion Texans were when they drafted David Carr. The situations aren't even remotely similar (for one if the Bengals did take Haskins he likely would sit behind Dalton for the 2019 season barring injury). Carr didn't have that luxury when the Texans drafted him back in 2002.
I dont know, you saw what happened to Andy Dalton last year. I'd' rather see Haskins go somewhere that wants to build around him not kill him.
Just stop. Dalton is actually one of the NFL's most durable QBs. What happened to him last year was a freak accident on a blown snap by Price that he chased down. Knowing the type of player Price is and how dedicated he is to bettering himself we won't be seeing much more of that going forward. The current Bengals roster isn't similar to the early Texans teams in any way (those teams were bad enough to the point that some elite college teams could've beaten them). If there's any team that Haskins could be taken by that compares to those early Texans teams somewhat it's Miami (considering they have been actively dismantling their roster this off-season).
You take shit waaaaaay too seriously. Try decaf.
Haskins is not going to start for the Bengals this season.
Near the end of last season -- when there was a report that Marvin would be in charge of deciding his own future as coach -- I decided my fandom wasn't worth the emotional investment anymore (I was born in 1985, so my history as a fan includes the awful 90s and the mediocre Marvin era that became completely stagnant the last few years). My plan is to become a casual fan of whoever drafts Dwayne.
Not long after I made that solemn vow, they at least got a breath of fresh air with the coach change-- although personnel-wise they didn't improve the roster at all yet. Now I've got an odd glimmer of hope that they could draft Dwayne, and if so then hey look! My new team is my old team!
That said, I also carry the same sentiment as the Skull Session writer....as a fan it's a cool possibility, but I also know it would be a death sentence to Dwayne's career.
Most fans and so-called experts spent the off season claiming that the fact that Haskins only has one year of experience will not hurt him in the pros. Now, the knock on him has been he lacks experience. With that logic or lack of logic, Haskins would be a perfect fit for the Bengals. At the most, it seems like Dalton will not be a Bengal after 2020. Mikie will not sign him to a long term deal. Andy would be a great teacher for Haskins. And he is a better person than he is a football player. He would help Dwayne like he was his brother. Bottom line is money with the Bengals. They averaged 20,000 empty seats last year. They need to draft Haskins or someone like him to get fans back in the stands. Haskins just might be that guy. Also, a revival of the once-great Battle of Ohio could feature the Browns--led by Mayfield and the Bengals led by Haskins. Can you say sellout every game! They just can not afford to draft someone and the first thing a Bengal fan might ask is "Who is this guy?" I like Devin Bush from Michigan as well, He is rather small--but he can hit. Gary has had lots of bad pub because of many things. But, in typical Michigan fashion, they did very little to develop him. A late 3rd round pick would be good for the Bengals. But, Bengals need a shot in the ass, and Haskins should be the man if he is there.
Not to mention this belief that the Bengals have no talent to support Haskins is just not true. Joe Mixon and Giovani Bernard are two very good backs (Mixon only led the AFC in rushing last season), and AJ Green and Tyler Boyd are both quality receivers (not to mention Eifert when healthy gives Haskins another incredible option in the passing game). Not to mention Haskins is a strong enough passer IMO that he actually has the ability to make his WRs better. We had a deep group of WRs last season but none of those guys are superstar wideouts in the slightest and in the prior two years before 2018 they were considered a very mediocre group in terms of talent. Enter Haskins and now Parris Campbell is likely a Day 1 pick, Terry McLaurin possibly a Day 2 pick, and Johnnie Dixon almost certainly a Day 3 pick (after considering retirement at one point in his career). The Bengals' biggest question mark is obviously their O-line but in all likelihood that wouldn't affect Haskins this year (Dalton most certainly is going to start in 2019).
As a Bengals fan I really only want to see them draft 1 of 3 players and trade up if you havent o get 1 of them!
Devin White. Dude is a difference maker on D!
Ed Oliver. Pair him with Geno inside with Dunlap and the young ends. Scary d-limr right there!
Haskins would be my pick period! Dalton will never get us over the hump! Sit Haskins behind Dalton this year and maybe even next year let him learn just like Rodgers did behind Favre.
I don't wanna hear he will get killed or has no skill players around him. You can pick up o-line in the 2nd or 3rd rounds just like LB. You also have next year's draft to get the o-line players to protect him. He can make every NFL throw and can read a defense!
DO NOT DRAFT BUSH OR GARY! It will be hard for me to root for a meatchicken player on my team! Plus I think they're both overrated!
Do us a favor Mike Brown and pump some life back into this fan base and organization!
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I’m a lukewarm at best Brown’s fan and when they drafted UM’s Peppers that was it; Done. I pretty much root for the team with the most Buckeyes so I raised an eyebrow towards the Bengals last year. If they take Gary they’ll alienate a decent portion of their fan base.
I don't want Gary simply because I don't think he's a very good football player. I think Bush could actually help the Bengals out.
I can separate my Ohio State fandom and my Bengals fandom. Sure, it's sweet as hell when the two are paired up, but I'm not going to hate a Bengals player that does all of the right things and plays well just because he played at Michigan.
We have what, 11 total picks? We can almost draft an entire new offense or defense..but, I suggywe use them wisely..if we don't take Haskins with the first pick, then I think we need to wait unti next year to draft a QB..we really need some solid LBS, and solid offensive linemen..
They have to make the team first, drafting for depth is not really needed this season. Trade three or four of them to pick up a player in the earlier rounds that can contribute early. How many of the five sixth round picks are going to stick? If they see a OT left early in the second that can play today, drop a mess of picks and move up five or six spots if that is what it takes.
I like Devin White and if he's gone - take Jonah Williams? OT from Bama.
Hoping Mike Brown and family get drafted
As a Bengals fan I wouldn't mind if Haskins went to the Bengals. As long as he didn't have to come and play right away especially with non existant offensive line.
Safe pick, take the OT in a position of need though I think the Steelers pounded them with the trade up and stole their first choice. Can they cut Bobby Hart and just pay his bonus?
Hart is basically insurance as a third OT-no way he is going to see the majority of that three year deal money. Williams is a forget about the position for twelve years type of OT, and a high character dude off the field. Type of person who actually reads books on military history and things like that, not SwaggyMoron on instagram.
Love the Jonah pick safe and great for culture. HIm and Billy Price are good young players for the core of the next few years. Round two I want either the corners who fell or the Olineman who fell. Cody Ford is a OG who played tackle in college and some had going too 20, if we can nab him our Oline will be stacked for the next few years. We also have 5 6th rounders so I would like to trade into the back of round 2 and get either Mack Wilson or Blake Cashman. That would be a great first three rounds. We wouldn't have any huge needs on the team after that.
Thank God the Bengals passed on Haskins. I can't believe they passed -horrible move!
I was actually worried the Steelers were going to take Haskins beforehand, as Roethlesburger is basically playing year-to-year, and was rumored to be retiring last year. Haskins is a similar QB and perfect for their system. Again, horrible move to pass on Haskins!
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Will Grier for Who Dey tonight - the only dude who plays like Bakers Mayfield that I've seen.
TE pick was a big reach, wonder what the saw in him. LB pick seems to have some potential. Not sure why they wanted to ADD picks instead of using them to move up, new coach must figure he's going to clean house.
As far as the TE goes, A-Irv Smith went off the board 3 picks before the Bengals in the 2nd and B-they wanted a TE who was an elite blocker-Sample fit the bill-he was probably the top guy on their board after the the 2 Hawkeyes and Smith