Under for Harrison, over for Wilson, and under for Miller (4 games played is the max for players who want to redshirt).
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and that is why it was listed 2nd, after 5 for the over
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I'm good with Wilson and Miller, and while I'll take 6+ sacks from Harrison that seems like a tall order (even with consistent snaps as part of the rotation).
For perspective: Ursa Major turned in 7.5 sacks, Ursa Minor 5, and The Predator 2.5 in their respective frosh campaigns.
I'll give ZH (needs a nickname) around that four range, but obviously wouldn't be disappointed if he met prognostications here.
ZH (needs a nickname)
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I kind of lean to the simple and obvious, but effective nickname. "Sack" Harrison, or Sacks for short. A play on Snacks Harrison on Detroit
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Miller at 4 games to keep redshirt.
6.5 sacks seems like a lot for how much depth we have on the line. I agree that Wilson definitely has the best chance to hit early and fast. Miller might get to four games, however, he will definitely redshirt.
6.5 is a lot. Last year that would have put him 3rd on the team behind Chase Young (10.5) and Dre'Mont Jones (8.5). The next closest was Nick Bosa (4.0). Pete and Tuf were next up with 3.0 apiece.
I don't know snap counts (I think he'll get more snaps than the two freshman did last year), but to compare with other ends from last year Cooper only had 2.5, Tyler Friday had 1, and Tyreke Smith had 0. JJB has also made a name for himself this spring and will see the field at some point as well.
None of those were the player that Harrison is coming in.
edit - reread it and assume you mean the guys last year aren’t the player Harrison is. Young and Bosa we’re both rated higher.
Under for all three. Unless starters in front of them are injured, I don't think any of them really produce. Their futures are bright and Wilson should get 300-400. But OSU has experienced and talented players in front of them.
Not a knock on our veteran WRs at all, but Wilson could be the best on the team by midseason.
Just look at the step forward the entire WR corps made last season with just part of the off season under Hartline. I believe that we'll see the veterans take another step forward. Wilson might have the highest ceiling of them all, but I don't think he'll be able to surpass the others on a consistent ability just yet. I do believe he'll show a lot of promise and make some great plays and he'll be ready to be WR1 next season.
Not to take too much away from Hartline, I think a big part of their step forward had to do with the guy throwing them the ball last season
Undeniable factor. WR talent will be no more successful than the QB. Hoping our offense is seriously clicking in perfect timing. Last year our QB was fabulous.
But does he know blocking responsibilities? It's not just about making spectacular catches.
Yep, regardless of injuries ahead of him or not, Wilson will be starting by the end of the year. He's just too talented to not play; he's already put some significant time in the weight room as well.
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I'll say Harrison hits the under based off the # of guys playing in front of him, but he'll see enough playing time in enough games not to warrant a redshirt.
Wilson... I think the over. I think the more he is on the field the more comfortable and explosive he'll be. By the end of the season I'd bet he and Olave are far and away our 2 best WRs.
I wouldn't scoff at Miller being the starter next year, but this year I think he appears in the requisite number of games to allow him to preserve his redshirt year.
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Zach will be under 6.5 sacks, but I'll add an interception. Either a tip at the line or pick a la Steve Miller in a zone blitz.
Miller's TD was one of my all time great Buckeye plays. LJ hugging him on the sideline, afterwards, oh boy.
Wow! What Spirit.
Nickname .... Sack Harrison ??? Could it really be that simple?
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Pure genius. I nominate you for something, something meister for the day.
One of them looks a lot like Cris Carter at this point.
Hope he doesn’t act like him. My least favorite Buckeye ever.
Miller is gonna be a warrior. But like when Myers came in, it probably won't be this year. I think Harrison needs to get stronger, but I'm excited to see what he's got. Wilson will be so steady, but it will be interesting. Mack isn't gonna hand him playing time.
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Over/under 2019 projection: Five games played, redshirt
Isn't the rule 4 games or fewer played?
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I’ll take the under, Over...
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I’m taking the under on ALL! They are freshmen and this is Ohio State.
With the success of Buckeye stars in the recent drafts, I'm not sure why OSU sees redshirting as the first option anymore. I don't know if any of these freshmen will leave when their high school classmates finish their sophomore year, but if any should prove to the coaches to be phenoms going into this, their first year, I'd play them as much as possible because there's seemingly no way the Buckeyes are going to get three years play out of three years eligibility on a phenom anymore and so they might as well hope to get two. Out of this crop, I wouldn't even consider redshirting Wilson as an option. He looks good enough to start and too good to last three calendar years.
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Some of it could be only having so much playing time to spread amongst the players.
I just hope they move Miller to Guard just to get him on the field sooner, even if it isn’t this year. Myers is going to be the anchor of that OL for the next few years, and Miller is too good to be sitting on the bench for that long.
i think Wilson will have the biggest impact of all the freshman. He is a baller, and is too good to be kept off the field. Sure he might need to work on blocking, but his playmaking skills are off the charts.
I think both Harrison and Potter and good enough to play this year. Unfortunately for them, there are already a bunch of guys ahead of them. Young, Cooper, Smith, And Friday will be the guys playing most IMO. JBB is right there as well. This is a good problem to have.
Can they punt block?
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I'll take under on all 3. The only one I'm not sure on is whether or not Miller will redshirt or not. I don't think that Harrison will get enough snaps to get 6.5 sacks this season. I could see him getting 3. Same goes for Wilson, I think 400 yards would be the max for him with somewhere around 300 being more realistic. We aren't going to pass the ball as much this year as in last year so all WR numbers are going to go down.
With the overwhelming success on the national stage by true freshmen like JK Dobbins, Trevor Lawrence, Matt Frohm, and Jalen Hurts, I'm not so sure why people think it's unusual for true freshmen to produce. The times are not changing, they have changed.
Freshmen enter college now more prepared to play at that level more so than ever before. The days of sitting for a year to learn are over, when it comes to the type of elite players we're talking about here.
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It's still VERY rare for true frosh to be key contributors to a NC caliber team. It's not like BB where Kentucky, Duke and NC frosh are superstars from day one.
B/c freshman like Dobbins and Lawrence and (potentially) Wilson are the vast exception, not the rule. There are over 2,000 young men that sign D-1 paperwork and report as freshmen every year. Let's go nuts over statistical outliers-even for the SEC/B10.
I'm not getting nuts. The world changed. When you're talking about elite talent, not every three or four star guy, but the elite guys, they are prepared. So, yes, when statistically included in a group of thousands of college freshmen, then they make up an overwhelming minority. But, that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about the most elite players coming out of high school, and Garrett Wilson and Zach Harrison are absolutely securely in that rare air.
The only thing that held back either Bosa brother was Urban Meyer and the depth chart. Tua Tagovailoa was a true freshman who replaced the guy who led his team to the title game as a true freshman the year before.
We're in a new era in college football.
2 guys per class or so at the best schools hardly constitutes a "new era",imo. Coop usually had a couple of impact frosh every year.
Also, while I too think Garrett Wilson will be making an impact from day 1, I'd temper my expectations for Harrison. Talk is cheap from spring practice, and last year, on the field, he was definitely an athletic project, as opposed to a dominating beast. If he surpasses Chase Young's freshman performance, I will be pleasantly shocked.