Class of 2020 Recruiting News (Part 23)

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Carrying over from last part but Brian Dohn put in a CB for Carmody to us citing he got the info he needed to make the pick. This is the CB I've been waiting for so its very good news. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Adding to this per the article Dohn says Carmody is being recruited heavily by Day which is significant. Also said Carmody gushed about his belief in Day's ability to bring another natty to Columbus. 

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Article/Ohio-State-Buckeyes-Cry...

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Ludwig Yards's picture

This would be a uuuge pickup for this OL class. 

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urbansjacket2's picture

Huge news--as you mentioned this is the CB to watch on him.

Hilariously, 247 BH today was talking about only possibly taking 5 OL and slow-playing Carmody as a take because of it (and other guys higher on the board--no idea who this could be, btw). What an awful source. We took freaking Leroux...I would pray that we'd pull that offer in a heartbeat (esp because he's up to 355) if it somehow meant we didn't have room for Carmody.

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Triv's picture

I honestly hope Day/Marotti give him an ultimatum stating he will only be allowed to sign if he gets down to 330. Kid needs to prove he's committed to losing the weight. 330 would be 25 pounds which is easily doable if the kid is serious about it. Mickey will probably want him closer to 310 if he ever wants to play a game here, but 330 will prove he's serious about improving his body.

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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huffdaddy's picture

There is no way Carmody isn't a take. 

Also, think everyone's speculation around Leroux and his weight is just that - speculation. That's taken a life of its own on this board, and a) nobody has actual information and b) it's a 17 year old Ohio kid - maybe we should stop beating him up about his weight when we don't know jack.

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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Ludwig Yards's picture

Didn't Leroux's coach say he dropped down to 280 at some point so he could wrestle? Not sure what he is now but that could show he has the discipline to drop weight if he needs to. 

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urbansjacket2's picture

It's not speculation. He weighed in at 355 at the Opening. We do know jack, Jack.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

There's a reason why the BH has a disclaimer at the bottom. They do have some reliable info but there's a good chunk that's just conjecture too. Which is why I wait to hear from insiders that are trustworthy and haven't heard anything about him not being a take. 

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urbansjacket2's picture

Haha no doubt. BG said he definitely hadn't heard anything of the sort in his chat today

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Andrew Ellis's picture

lol that BH stuff is 1000000 percent inaccurate. 

SpoonerBuck33's picture

The word for word copy and paste job they had in there awhile back was comedy gold though

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Northbrook's picture

I've always thought that much of what is in the BH is just made up.

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urbansjacket2's picture

So, an interesting wrinkle in credibility matters, in BK's article about latest crystal balls (https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/LongFormArticle/Latest-Crystal-Ball-picks-favoring-Ohio-State-Buckeyes-football-Ryan-Day-131340568/#131340568_1) he says the following re: Carmody:

"but with four offensive line commitments already they might only take one more. So the staff needs to be selective and sure. Carmody is very much in the running. If the staff takes two more OL’s then I really like the chances Carmody is one of them."

So it appears the 'source' writing that in the BH yesterday is either him or someone he actually believes. As we have all said, just can't think it's possibly true, but wild to see BK publish it. 

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Andrew Ellis's picture

This is entirely wrong lol. My understanding is that they’re completely in on Carmody and Day is personally leading the charge. His colleague Bill Greene has said the same. 

Northbrook's picture

Oooooh, now you've done it. You done pissed off "The Dean."

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USNbuckeyeBG's picture

I swear it seems like every elite lineman we get, the recruitment is led by someone other than our OLine coach...?

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Bucks19's picture

Lead because lead recruiter is coach who has that area with a few exceptions. You’re trashing Stud without facts. 

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flying-banana's picture

Fairly sure it's high street between Wendy's and Qdoba, unconfirmed though.

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Sanantonefan's picture

Thanks Spooner!

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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Cincybuckeye's picture

Landing Carmody would give us an excellent o-line class.

Tackles- Paris Johnson, Michael Carmody, Trey Leroux

Guard-Jakob James

Center-Luke Wypler

Swing player-Reece Atteberry

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

I would not put Leroux at tackle. 

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logamaniac's picture

if he keeps the weight or adds more it might just be better to plug him in at DT to squash gaps similar to what Bama used to have with Cody.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Possibly but I also think the 1 tech DT hole plugger types are going away in football. With passing attacks ruling the day pass rushers at DT are more of a premium. 

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napbuck's picture

Bijan Robinson will take his official visit on June 14.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Love that we're finally getting a visit. Not sure it's a good thing that it's an official visit though unless he plans on making a summer decision. 

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Bucks19's picture

Staff doesn’t allow summer visits unless they have summer or early September commitment dates. 

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AKBuck15's picture

I believe that was Urban’s philosophy, whether Day is keeping that as well I hope he does. But haven’t heard for certain. 

I am a Michigan booster bud....just spent $182 bucks at Wal-Mart this morning.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Can you please link an article or something where it says that's our policy? Would like to see it. 

Also please link where it says Bijon is making a summer decision bc haven't seen any mention of that anywhere. 

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bucks_4_life's picture

He said philosophy not policy. I remember reading that urban didnt want players using their official visit in the spring if they weren't making a decision until after summer.

The juice is worth the squeeze

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

AK said philosophy and I wasn't responding to him. I'm genuinely curious since I have not read anywhere from any insider that it was a thing our staff does with visits. 

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Belliott's picture

No one is going to be able to find the article. I want to say it was a birm land of 10 article but I also read the same thing. Wanted to hold off on officials early if the player was committing later 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Urban did say something about only wanting to allow kids to take their official visits in the spring if they are planning to commit prior to their senior season. From an Andrew Lind article dated 3/3/18:

As a result, expect Ohio State to be rather judicious when it comes to inviting prospects to campus over the next few months.

"We're probably going to try to minimize official visits for people that aren't going to decide for a while," head coach Urban Meyer said, noting those who do come to campus this spring will likely make a decision by the end of the summer. "They forget. [It's] just the way it is. What have you done for me lately?" 

Others, like Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney, Florida's Dan Mullen and Miami's Mark Richt, aren't so keen on the changing landscape and are unlikely to host any recruits in an official capacity this spring.

Committing in the spring was originally Zach Harrison’s plan as he took his OVs last spring, then announced he was delaying his decision indefinitely. He then went to AA and State College multiple times on his own dime, which led to all the rumors he wasn’t going to choose OSU.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Buck68's picture

thanks for the background data, IowaBuckeyes!   Very useful, IMO.  Provides multiple opportunities to compare  and contrast.

Fascinating the differences between reasoning and "rumors".

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BuckNut51's picture

I actually understand this. Upvote for you!

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Spartan13's picture

Getting Fleming and Carmody would be quite the blow to ace recruiter James Franklin from our first year head coach

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Buckeye06's picture

Nah OSU can't recruit with the best of them.  We get Paris and Carmody we will have the best OT combo in the country likely

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Defiance's picture

GR8 read SB33, thanks for the link!

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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huffdaddy's picture

I like the general plan: be interested and happy to host a visit and roll out the red carpet if he shows up, but don't follow him around and pursue him if it's all games. 

It all makes me think he is highly unlikely unless he shows up in the coming weeks. 

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Jarrett strikes me as a guy who’s enjoying the recruiting process and wherever he’s been most recently seems to be the cherry on the sundae. For that reason, if we can get him back on campus, there’s reason to believe he’ll swing back our way. He said there aren’t many receivers like him the B1G and he’s right. Rondale Moore certainly comes to mind but he’s more the exception than the rule.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Knarcisi's picture

Kid sounds like a prima donna. 

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Any word yet if Day plans to continue the Friday Night Lights event? 

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

I believe the answer is yes 

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willst88's picture

Will we get another QB in the 2020 class since Mattew Baldwin is in the Transfer Portal?  

Robert Sterrett

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KlayDog's picture

I feel like we have to at this point

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Possibly now but I say let this play out and see if he does transfer. If he does likely means Jack is not going to redshirt next year will get ready as a backup then take over as a true sophomore. 

We could also add another transfer this year for depth just in case too. 

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Bucks19's picture

Portal = transferring. He’s not just putting feelers out there. 

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bd2999's picture

I imagine they have to. Although recruiting QB is hard too. Go after too many and the guys you have start looking. Miller is solid but you need two or three guys. Surprised about this for sure. 

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Attack51's picture

Jordan Botelho off the board, commits to ND

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Good get for them but LB isn't a huge need this year. Still think we land 2 of Sherman, Melton, Kourt Williams 

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napbuck's picture

We need another quarterback in the 2020 class regardless whether he Baldwin leaves or not, if he doesn’t yet this year he most likely will next. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

You'll possibly risk losing Miller 

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George Hennen's picture

We really just need another Chugonov type grad transfer. Someone who has had some experience but is fine with being a backup to finish his career. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

https://lettermenrow.com/ohio-state-football/ohio-state-buckeyes-footbal...

Quote from article:  "This option, let’s call the nuclear option, isn’t ideal — and would almost certainly require Ohio State to add a second quarterback in the Class of 2020 behind Arizona 4-star Jack Miller. That isn’t something the program wants to do and could potentially cause some risk of losing Miller."

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

I think this should be easily sellable to Miller. Baldwin is out of the picture and Mathis is at UGA. When Miller committed both of these guys were in the picture. What is a better option? Coming in with Mathis as a RS FR and Baldwin as a RS SO or coming in with a 3* developmental QB in the same class? 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

I would say coming in with no competition in the same class is easier lol. Don't think you'll see many 2 QB classes nationally anymore tbh

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

I don't think that's harder at all to beat out a much lower ranked player in the same class than two talented players who have already been in the system. If they take another top 200 QB then I agree, but I don't see a scenario where that happens. This situation is now perfect for Miller. Bringing in a developmental QB shouldn't change that.

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Cooper's picture

Well what is the coaching staff supposed to do, go into 2020 with 2 scholarship QB’s? That’s asinine.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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silverbullet71's picture

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Cooper's picture

Please don’t respond to me.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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huffdaddy's picture

Mods, clean up on aisle 7. Looks like a guy who hasn’t seen his team win a big game in a loooooong time has stopped by.

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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KBonay's picture

He's been dealt with, thanks for the head's up.

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BuckeyeBulldog's picture

Must make you feel pretty good trolling fans of a team that has owned your sorry ass for the better part of 2 decades. You wouldn't perhaps be overcompensating would you? just a guess

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Buckabroad's picture

Let 'im be. Somehow he has to cope with feelings of inadequacy and worthlessness, which I imagine are considerale. 

"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."

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George Hennen's picture

How about Miller just reclassifies and joins the team this year, lol. 

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Spartan13's picture

Day can't recruit QBs hasn't even been here 5 months and has destroyed the depth chart

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silverbullet71's picture

And Jarrett was called a prima donna? If.Miller walks because they do whats best for the program, then see ya later kid

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urbansjacket2's picture

We don’t have the leverage here. Of course OSU is bigger than any single player, but....in this case you cannot risk losing Miller whatsoever

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silverbullet71's picture

Quite the hole OSU have dug for themselves

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Octobersownlibra's picture

You are a troll

Ryan day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time

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silverbullet71's picture

How? Because I speak the truth?

We dont take a 2nd qb because we are afraid of losing Miller? So lets ust keep the qb room paper thin outnof fear

OSU has dug themselves in to a hole? Yes they have! They brought in Fields and lost 2 qbs who would be solid backups at worst, providing much needed depth.

Sorry if the truth stings

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buckslan's picture

You aren't speaking the truth at all guy. OSU needed to bring in a transfer after they lost Haskins and Mathis to UGA. Saying OSU should not have went after Fields and kept Baldwin and Martell is F'n ignorant. There's a reason you're getting a shit ton of DVs

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silverbullet71's picture

Downvotes, because those hurt my feelings LOLOL. Opinions not the same as yours apparently hurt feelings on this page

Mathis dipped because rumblings of Fields, so 3 qbs for 1, hope he doesnt get hurt ...

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LB U's picture

There's really no reasoning with this level of stupidity. Baldwin and Martell both have gone the transfer portal route.. That means one of them would've transfered even if Fields hadn't come here, because clearly they both want to start this year. The question then becomes would you rather have Justin Fields, Baldwin or Tathan. The answer is pretty obviously Fields, even though I think Baldwin can be a stud one day.

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silverbullet71's picture

I dont think either leaves if Fields doesnt come..

I told friends when it was going down that it would cause a riff amongst qbs on the roster.

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Belliott's picture

And you’re an idiot. So who cares. I’d trade fields for Baldwin and martell straight up any day. If all 3 were in the same class everyone would gladly make that same decision.  The only difference is it would have been nice to know earlier. 

Take your trolling somewhere else. 

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

I doubt it would cause a "riff" unless the QBs are in a band.

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logamaniac's picture

wait which one is the good one is it riff or is it raff?

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BuckeyeBulldog's picture

Fuck outa here with that We shit you sorry ass troll

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LB U's picture

By what? Adding the 7th highest rated player in 247 composite history? I would rather have Fields than Baldwin and the blonde midget in south beach.

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silverbullet71's picture

7th rated that has proven just as much as Tate and Baldwin mind you.

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josh7meyer's picture

Ryan Day said that he plans to add a graduate transfer.

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Sims_tOSU's picture

Real question, if miller comes in early and practices in January, would he be allowed to be the backup for a bowl game or something like that? Wasn’t there a rule change for guys who come in early or something 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Could be wrong but I don't believe so. 

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Sims_tOSU's picture

Maybe it’s just he’s allowed to practice in bowl practice or something. Thought a player did it a few years ago. Any chance he’d pull a musa Jallow and grad early or is that not a thing in football? 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

I believe they can practice but I don't think they can actually play. 

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buckeyetyler's picture

Plus, how ready would he be to actually lead an offense that soon? 

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Bucks19's picture

Can’t come in and practice because he wouldn’t be enrolled. He’d have to enroll for Fall Semester 

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

False. Happens quite often.

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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NHBuckeye's picture

Yeah, I seem to remember Brendan White practicing with the team early.  With the LB’s at that time.  Then when he started school he was with the WR’s.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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logamaniac's picture

Actually he did participate in December, it was after autumn semester ended and he was an early enrollee for the spring semester.  During that break the team has bowl practice, of which he was allowed to participate as he was technically a student.  

Some guy on another forum explained it best “an incoming player can practice during an “official vacation period” immediately before initial enrollment as long as the student was accepted by the school in a regular, full-time program of studies, isn’t still enrolled at their previous school, and is eligible under school and NCAA requirements.”

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logamaniac's picture

yeah this is dumb, spring semester (typically for which is considered an early enrollment) starts at the beginning of January.  This also allows participation in spring practices AFTER the extra allotted bowl practices.  

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logamaniac's picture

Huh?  Maybe reading comprehension isn’t your thing but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt here.  

Go read this https://theozone.net/2017_ohiostate_football_roster/brendon-white/ 

then come back and read what I wrote.  Then think about your response to what I wrote.  

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Belliott's picture

You said he could practice AFTER the bowl practices. He practiced during the bowl practices. Not that difficult to read. Maybe you need to read your own words. 

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logamaniac's picture

I said he could “also” practice in spring due to being an early enrollee.  

I guess you missed that in your kerfuffle.  

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Belliott's picture

The whole comment thread is about practicing/playing in regards to bowls for early enrollees. Who cares about spring? 

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logamaniac's picture

Because they go hand in hand?  You obviously weren’t aware of the rules so I educated you on the allowances of early enrollment.   

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Belliott's picture

No they don’t. He practiced in December of 2016 leading up to the Clemson CFP game. He was a 2017 recruit. He could practice but not play. Which is what this was about. Educate your damn self first. 

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logamaniac's picture

Can’t come in and practice because he wouldn’t be enrolled. He’d have to enroll for Fall Semester 

seems like there’s a discussion about bowl practice eligibility for a 2017 player who enrolled early for spring semester, if I just look at who the responses were directed to.   

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Even if he early enrolls, the season will be over before he starts classes. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Someone was nice enough to create a safe space for the moaners and groaners on here. Can you please air your grievances there? Too much to ask? 

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AKBuck15's picture

Looking at his comments I think he’s beyond even that thread...

I am a Michigan booster bud....just spent $182 bucks at Wal-Mart this morning.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Can’t we just remove this shit bird? 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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tampatom's picture

We need to let SB be an SB, what does he get to root for in the season, trips to spain and sleep overs, and oh yes a totally revamped offense next year...misery loves company but it should not come from this site

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CardaleFTW's picture

I would've liked to see Bijan Robinson and Lathan Ransom take their official visits together, considering the fact that they both attend the same high school, but it'll be good to finally have Bijan on campus and Ransom back on campus again.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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SFlaBuckeye13's picture

Per Birm, 2019 Qb JP Andrade has visited twice in the past month 

https://247sports.com/Player/JP-Andrade-46042617/

The world is yours

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Hmmm. Really prefer someone with experience. Having a true freshman back up would be tough unless they think Chug can be a sufficient number two 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I say go for both: a transfer to provide immediate depth this season, and Andrade as a project/stopgap inserted between Fields and Miller. After initially striking out in 2018–probably because Tua still had two years—Saban ended up taking Layne Hatcher, a 2-star QB late last spring, having flipped him from Arkansas State in May, so it’s not unprecedented. We have at least one scholarship available. If we don’t have two, odds are another will open between now and the start of fall camp.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Northern Nevada Buck's picture

Silverbullet71 is a scUM fan...he has a Michigan photo on his profile page. I don't have a problem with Blue fans participating here...but trolling by using "we" pretending to be an OSU poster with an OSU moniker...is fraud and he should be given a time out or worse.

"Give your dream an aspiration date."

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Buckabroad's picture

Like I said, he clearly needs this. His team has proven an utter failure, no matter the coach mind you, for the better part of two decades. His inadequacies cannot be addressed on the gridiron. Internet trolling is all he has left in a futile attempt to assert some degree of manhood and worth. We should feel sad for him. 

"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."

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Washmore24's picture

Anybody else hoping we offer Demeatric Crenshaw to be the 2nd QB in the class? He might have higher aspirations of starting at another B1G school like Indiana but i'd really like the kid as our Stephen Collier

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FieldsofJreams's picture

Must get IMO.  I don't get the logic that Miller will/should decommit if we sign a 2nd QB.  We took no QBs in 2019, so would he rather have had a higher-ranked guy than Crenshaw with one extra year in the system to compete w/?

The second-ranked QB in OH this year is 43rd in the state and 46th at the position.  Why would would any elite QB be threatened by that?  I kinda feel like they can GTFO if that is a deal-breaker.

I guess going forward you could take an elite QB by himself one year, and then the next year take a 2/3-star OH guy and the best QB willing to be in a 2-man class.  That could spread things out better for the sake of the room as a whole.

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logamaniac's picture

Because it’s competition.  What if the kid ends up being a baker mayfield caliber unheralded guy or like mahomes (22nd pro-style qb)?

its easier to be the only guy in your class.  I get it, but it sucks for us.  

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FieldsofJreams's picture

How about: https://247sports.com/Player/Baron-May-46081731/ 2-star #1862

At one point is the stud just being a pussy?  Tell him we are recruiting the other QB as a career-backup.  If Jack Miller can't beat a 2-star out, he has a 0.01% chance of making any money as a football player.

Baker and Mahomes were both 3-stars, is there even more than a handful of 2-stars to have played in the NFL recently?

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FieldsofJreams's picture

I am pleased to have caught your eye.

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huffdaddy's picture

You are a little over-dialed here, but the basic gist is more or less right: coaches should tell recruits, we are going to have 4 on scholly - 3 who we recruited and 1 grad transfer each year. Our assumption is you will sit for a year and then take over because we are assuming you can beat out a 2 star kid and a career backup transfer. Obviously it's up to you to beat them out, but we are recruiting you specifically for that purpose. We need 4 QBs for practice and in case of catastrophic bad luck. 

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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FieldsofJreams's picture

I have found that human beings prioritize delivery over content.

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Ryan.Honeycutt's picture

Hey man, I see what your saying about trying to get a second QB in the class and having him be a lower ranked recruit, the way I see it thoughyou wouldn’t even need another QB recruit  until maybe 2022... I know it’s crazy but hear me out... Fields starts 19 and 20... miller spends his freshman year ( class of 20) backing up fields then taking over in 2021 ( as a true sophomore) so now you have your QBs starting as sophomores ( starting with fields this year) getting atleast two years out of them, having your next QB in the program learning for one year... now I know it’s risky not taking a QB every year because anything could happen with injury but you could always get a transfer portal guy for depth... and this is assuming your QBs are moving on to the NFL after their junior year... maybe this would force the staff to go after highly recruited slobs to keep our QBs out of harms way and not going after 3* ham n eggas that are barely ranked in the state

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AKBuck15's picture

Or perhaps going with a developmental type player in 22? If we bring McCord or high ranked player in at qb for 21. Still not sure I like it, still feel a qb each year and get the best one for your program. 

Be interesting to see how this transfer/portal itself plays out in the coming years. It’s fresh now but I’d have to imagine there’s going to be additional regulation upon it shortly. 

I am a Michigan booster bud....just spent $182 bucks at Wal-Mart this morning.

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Ryan.Honeycutt's picture

Yeah I get what you are saying, this reason I brought my idea up is ok say we bring in McCord in 2021 and he beats out miller, see you later miller transfer portal here he comes... I know my ideology is for a perfect world where no one gets injured... I agree with you about a top tier guy every year for the program because we would need depth but the way I would want it to work is a top tier guy every two years that way your depth is 3 (2 big name guys, and a lower ranked or transfer or walk on) I think the times of a big name QB recruit every year is over because everyone thinks the are Johnny Utah and think they should start at a big time college program the minute they commit and if they don’t they run 

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AKBuck15's picture

Definitely agree there, with the every other year with a top tier guy. Like you said that’s in perfect world, no injuries nor a transfer. Or just plain a QB doesn’t pan out ala Justin Zwick was hyped up and the lower tier guy ends up winning the heisman in the same class. So many variables, I don’t envy a coaches job in this day in age. 

I am a Michigan booster bud....just spent $182 bucks at Wal-Mart this morning.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

IMO I believe this is the new norm in QB recruiting. Land a highly ranked guy and add a grad transfer who can be backup. 

With Day we are in the era of being able to land the top QB's in the country. When you do that yearly there's going to be transfers. Possible good thing about this is down the line it may be able to help us keep whichever 2021 QB we get. Since Miller will likely not redshirt now it creates a nice window of separation between him and the 2021 QB we land. 

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huffdaddy's picture

I think the stud recruits are happy to sit one year, but maybe not happy to sit two years. So all recruitment should be based on that assumption, which is different than the mindset a few years ago. Miller will be fine with the idea of sitting behind Fields for a year (while playing some mop up and second string). But I am not convinced that a 2021 stud is going to come in and be happy to redshirt and then sit again another year - we have a lot of evidence now that this is not where kids' minds are today. 

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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buckeyetyler's picture

I don’t disagree with you. But if I’m talking to the recruits (I won’t), I would be reminding them that Cardale was 3rd string in 2014, but finished the year hoisting the NC trophy and earned his shot in the League. Dwayne only started one year...but threw 50 TDs and will be a first round pick next week. 

Even though every competitor wants to be on the field, if they are good enough to have NFL aspirations, then spending 4 years in Day’s system is a great place to be, even if they have to wait their turn for a couple years. 

I guess my point is: I am hoping for more maturity than I should expect from most 18-year-olds. I was no different at 18.

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huffdaddy's picture

You make a good point and this is what Saban has sold recruits on at all positions at Bama - if you are patient, you will make it to the NFL.

it is clearly a hard sell w QBs - partially because they see guys coming in behind them too. But some coaches are going to pull it off.

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

The other point Day could make is to show kids that Haskins sat for 2 years. Look at him now and what he was able to do with him. 

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Interesting how staffs handle this moving forward.  I guess it will be status quo and you still try to sign one every year, but the reality is, they just aren't going to stay. I think the NCAA needs to set a transfer window though, so there are only certain times during the year when a guy can leave.  Kelly Bryant doing it mid-season is a great example.  I'd like to see something where if they choose to leave outside of the designated windows, they don't qualify for immediate eligibility. This has the potential to completely ruin seasons if guys are leaving at any point during the year. 

I also think the lower rated QBs are going to become a very hot commodity. Either you sign one with a higher rated guy, or you sign one in the years you aren't taking a stud, just to keep depth in the QB room.  

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Like Urban told Bobby Carpenter recently, there will be no true backups at QB anymore. 

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Bucks19's picture

Bryant decided early fall to leave but stayed in school. He didn’t leave mid season. 

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Bryant started the first 4 games of the season (1/3 of the RS schedule) and lost the job before the 5th game and immediately announced his intentions to transfer and left the program. That is literally the middle of the season and it is also early fall.

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Bucks19's picture

Right. But he didn’t leave school 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Odds are Bryant left school. He graduated from Clemson in May 2018, which means he was already a grad student last fall. What would the point be if sticking around on campus when you already have your degree and you’re planning to transfer?  

It also suggests his move was calculated and not unprecedented. By quitting the team before he’d played in five games, it was if he was taking a redshirt and protecting his eligibility. It’s basically the same move Alabama QB Blake Barnett pulled in 2017 and one Tate Martell supposedly contemplated.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

In some ways, the conversation with Miller to take two QBs in a class (whether they be upcoming high schoolers or a transfer) has become easier. Bama, Clemson, and now us have all seen considerable attrition in the QB room. Others will surely follow (if they don't have this issue already). A prospect who cannot handle the suggestion that he won't be the only QB in a class should raise red flags. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Looks like Branch is committing tonight...My guess Oklahoma

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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NHBuckeye's picture

I really want Morant and Ransom at Safety in this class.  Morant is coming off of a visit to TTUN so hoping we can get him back to Columbus soon. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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Hanawi_'s picture

Looks like Alabama based on CBs

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Kourt Williams official visit is June 21

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Article/Kourt-Williams-Ohio-Sta...

Reminder that Biggins CB him to us and he's said to be making a summer decision. 

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Moneymike's picture

A couple of the bucknuts guys have said kourt Williams wants to be a buckeye. They probably are just stalling to see how the board falls

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Birm's article today. One thing of note is that he suggests FNL will be June 21

https://lettermenrow.com/ohio-state-football-recruiting/ohio-state-bucke...

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Buckster's picture

 A cornerback that I would like to see the Buckeyes recruit hard is Carrington Valentine from Cinci Moeller.

Believe he is just as talented and athletic overall as the other corners that have recently visited imo. 

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Andrew Ellis's picture

He and Sammy Anderson are both pretty dang good. 

SpoonerBuck33's picture

Is the hold up the hold up on them if they are safeties or are they corners?

Do you think Hyatt is being recruited for the bullet position?

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Andrew Ellis's picture

I could see one of Anderson and Valentine getting offered but I'm guessing they want to see more from them; whether it be workouts or how they look this fall. I think bullet for Hyatt but don't think he's a for sure take right now either honestly (but will be).

SpoonerBuck33's picture

Cool thanks! 

I'm in favor of offering Valentine. Not sure Anderson is a pure corner like Carrington is. 

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CardaleFTW's picture

Brian Branch to Bama. Take him off the board, and Rickey Hyatt since he's listed twice while you're at it. Also, does anyone have the visitor list for this weekend? I know it won't be a big weekend, but there has to be some talent on campus.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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Hanawi_'s picture

Ugh. AE with the CB for Sherman to Georgia.

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Andrew Ellis's picture

I thought Ohio State would be able to overcome Meyer leaving but it’s just looking less and less likely at this point. 

NHBuckeye's picture

Rats!!!   Is he at least still coming for his Official?  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Andrew Ellis's picture

Supposed to be unless something changes. 

LB U's picture

The elite 3 from the DMV.. Tre Williams, Rakim Jarett, and Sherman. We landed none of them after being the 100% crystal ball favorite for all 3 for almost a year.. That's pretty incredible. Though, It really shouldnt be though I guess.. Day is not a legend like Urban and will have to earn his stripes. I believe he will.. it's just going to take time and patience.

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huffdaddy's picture

Despite missing on them, we have a great chance to have a top 4, 300 point class. Tons of irons in the fire. 

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

This is the point many (not singling out here but our fanbase all over) are not comprehending. To go from a legend to a brand new coach essentially with a complete defensive staff overhaul and still have a chance at a top 4-5 class is pretty remarkable. 

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

It felt like we might land 1 or 2 of those guys but things certainly changed when Urban left. Let's also not forget that star players on HS teams always talk about going to college together as SO and JRs. It almost never ends up happening unless its to an in state power. Even then it doesn't happen often.

OSU is still hanging in there with Jarrett and Sherman and its not over yet but the most likely scenario was the Buckeyes getting one of these guys. That they are all likely to end up at different schools is the norm.

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Northbrook's picture

Lotsa time left. A strong season might turn some heads.

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NorthPoleBuckeye's picture

It wasn't long ago that the thought was we would get all three from D.C., now it looks like we will get none. Still time for the coaches to turn it around, but I am not optimistic. 

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George Hennen's picture

Not an OSU prospect anymore but an interesting CB for Jake Wray to Colorado. 

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CardaleFTW's picture

247 now has him ranked in the 400s. I think Coach Day and the staff made the right choice by not trying to get him back in the class.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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tekk69's picture

Wait... but we can take Leroux and James?  This logic makes no sense if you just want to take recruiting ranking

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

That's a fair point but its pretty rare for 247 to drop a kid as quickly as they have with Jake Wray. I'm not sure, barring something extraordinary, that they would drop someone from end of Jr year to signing day from top 100 to 750-1000. The drop with Wray from 93 to 414 is one of the largest in one re-ranking I have ever noticed. Now he's at 445. It reminds me of the type of drop Danny Clark saw, although that took place over a couple of years, not one re-rank.

James has jumped up over 225 spots in a couple months in 247's ranking and the expectation is he will end up a 4*. Leroux is a project and who knows what will happen there. OSU definitely jumped into the water there sooner than expected and sooner than they would in recent years.

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Woodshed's picture

Jalen Berger is an interesting case. Kid seemed like a stud that was CBd to osu but lately he has been taking several visits to schools like Syracuse and umass...

wonder what the deal is.

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George Hennen's picture

My guess would be Urban and Schiano were higher on him than the current staff. Plus there is sort of a question mark about what position he ends up playing. 

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napbuck's picture

I really never bought into the DC trio coming to Ohio State, I think they just like thought of being chased by Ohio State but always knew they weren’t going there. I think this year we as fans should be happy with anything in the top 10 and anything class above that would really be outstanding, just to much turnover on the staff for relationships in the 2020 class. If we continue to win and add another big ten championship than 2021 class could be top 2-3.

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buckbornbred's picture

Yep. Never were going to have an elite class when Urban retired. Day has to make a name for himself.

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Octobersownlibra's picture

Urban's last class wasn't that "elite" based on stars

Ryan day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time

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huffdaddy's picture

Would the number 4 or 5 class be elite? Because that is where I think we will wind up.

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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Buck68's picture

hmmm, Napbuck - you post got me thinking.

Just maybe... they are not for sale.

Then - maybe anytime - it might be wise to ask "what ARE you FOR"?

And... listen to his answers for clues on how to proceed... or why to leave.

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swflbuckeye1's picture

Wiltfong saying he is hearing from those close to Paris Johnson that they like the chances he commits to Georgia. 

https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Board/19/Contents/Paris-Johnson-13...

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Hanawi_'s picture

Wouldn't be a surprise. Pittman is killing it recruiting OL there and 3 trips in 6 weeks means he is serious.

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NHBuckeye's picture

What does Bill Greene have to say about this?  He’s the guy I pay the most attention to these days.  

That said, the talent level that attended the G Day thing is just insane.   So many top flight recruits were there.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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buckeyenut74's picture

That one would hurt, but not shocking

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Hayze's picture

That's not what he said.

He said he hasn't talked to Paris's family, but those who were around him this weekend seemed to like Georgia's chances. Not that he will commit there immediately.

My guess is he's talking about Georgia coaches or players. Which we know that coaches have egos and always think they're getting everybody. Plus he's on an official, he's going to like it

He still will official to OSU then make his decision.

I think we still hold onto him, even though it won't be easy.

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Kujo247's picture

If we lose out on Paris Johnson, the DC trio, and lots of others that seemed like a lock when Urban was here, you really can't blame Day.  He's done what most of us wanted: he rid the program of Schiano and Davis, he kept Larry Johnson (and actually promoted him), he brought in what would appear to be a great DB coach, and he brought in an innovative QB coach.  Plus, he promoted the best asset for the program: Brian Hartline.  

I just believe the "lure" of playing for Urban is something that most recruits REALLY fell for.  And, we just need to let Ryan Day get to the same spot that Saban, Smart, and Swinney are: consistently playing for national championships.  Plus, and I'm sure I'll be DVed a bunch, but I've been to UGa and Clemson and it's a better built-in recruiting atmosphere at those places: it's almost always warm, sunny, beautiful coeds, beautiful campuses,….  That's a tough one to overcome with a bunch of testosterone-charged football players.

Nothing is too difficult for the person that doesn't have to do it.

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Octobersownlibra's picture

Have to imagine if Ohio was located in the south, would be easier...

Ryan day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time

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buckbornbred's picture

I agree for the most part, but I don't know about more beautiful coeds and campuses. Ohio State's campus is really nice, and the women are as good, if not better, than those at any Southern school with the exceptions of FSU, Florida, and Miami.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Sorry but when you’re bundled up half the year and don’t get out as much and your skin is translucent from not getting enough sun, you’re not going to be as healthy or look as attractive as girls who are still wearing shorts in October and March. I went to grad school at Alabama and even then, coeds at northern schools didn’t come close to southern girls.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Grisle's picture

Since when is being tanned by the sun a sign of good health? If anything they are much more likely to get skin cancer.

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Northbrook's picture

Alright ginger take it easy.

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Buck68's picture

well said, IMO, Kujo247:  "lure" ..."really fell for" does not fit well with Honesty & Integrity... except in Diversity, where words mean whatever.

However, disagree with "just need to get to the same spot as X"... as much as I agree with the NC mission each year our staff assesses that mission as 'very challenging, but reasonably doable given that year's people and program processes'.

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Sanitarian2's picture

One has to wonder if some of these recruits have parents, I would certainly never allow my son to act in this manner. If they were truly elite I would push them not to commit so soon either, wait the process out until you are absolutely sure of your decision. They would not be taking visits after they committed either, especially while pretending to be committed.

Sani

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Octobersownlibra's picture

Have to imagine if Ohio was located in the south, would be easier...

Ryan day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time

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Octobersownlibra's picture

Wrong comment*

Ryan day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time

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Buck68's picture

"One has to wonder if some of these recruits have parents, I would certainly never allow my son to...."

Apparently, we are ever free to wonder... and wander... seeking some "absolutely" while rejecting whatever doesn't 'excite' our feelings of the moment.

IF one reads up on Paris Johnson... before and after Urban 'left'... the contrasts are... interesting.

IMO, anecdotally... Paris is doing to us what might be characterized as 'similar to what we did to him'.  Which, of course, is 'only right'... if we do it.

Agree, Sanitarian2:   "pretenders"... abound.  I'm looking at one part-timer  in my mirror at this very moment.  [as the 'urge to blame' ...inflames!]  Sanitarian 2:  Please help me out of this ditch!

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Sanitarian2's picture

I offer my hand to you, through the fog that surrounds us both, you have but to take it.

Sani

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Considering it’s Easter, of all days, shouldn't you be a Good Sanitarian today?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Buck68's picture

well said, Sanitarian2!  Thank you.  If i ever Each time i fail to respond to your kind offer... kick me... and blame it on me too....  ;-{)}

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Offensive line recruiting still seems to be an issue. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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buckeyenut74's picture

Starting to wonder if Day should’ve went in a different direction for o-line coach? Doesn’t seem like he is the best at coaching at that position, and I don’t think he is a good recruiter.

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SonOfBuckeye's picture

Day should’ve went in a different direction for o-line coach

Pure speculation:

- Could be Day agrees, but he thought he was nearing some tipping point with staff turnover and feared it would invite chaos to replace another coach.

- Maybe he agrees, and he has candidates in mind who he anticipates will be available next year who are better than the O-line coaches he could have poached this year.

I doubt he's biased by any kind of personal favoritism towards Stud, and I'm sure he sees the coaching/recruiting problems more clearly than we do.

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Belliott's picture

If he flips he flips. Don’t know that I’d consider it a done deal. Still have Henry and Thomas likely in the class and in his ear. Not ideal though. And still don’t like stud. 

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Buckster's picture

Can the white bus please pick up Sam Pittman and take him away......far far away.

http://pic.twitter.com/atbqLsIrae

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Mantis's picture

Paris' most recent follows are Georgia commits.  He tweeted earlier today asking for pics of him from "G-day."

He gone.  Tbh, I'm getting really tired of him.  The way he has handled things regarding his recruitment since Urban left is a joke. There's just something about highly rated O-linemen from Ohio... bunch of prima donnas.

Bye, Felicia. 

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Ryan.Honeycutt's picture

Not sure if anybody heard, but Julian Fleming did a telephone interview with Steve Wiltfong on bucknuts last week I think... and he was asked out of all the coaches that have recruited him which one does he have the best relationship  with, turns out he said he is luullllclosest to coach Hartline... ever since Brian Hartline. Was brought on by coach Meyer he has been a monster in the WR room as well as on the recruiting trail... with this class of WRs shaping up to be stacked, adding the number 1 receiver in the entire class to go with smith- njigba and scott jr I’d expect big things from these young pass catchers... in regards to Parris Johnson Jr and his recruitment, it is starting to get frustrating, it’s something where, as a fan, you wish he would shut down his recruitment and concentrate on trying to get more guys in this already dynamite 2020 class ( I mean he got his buddy Jaheim Thomas an offer, that’s what he and Henry wanted right? Hahahaha) 

RyanPH

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Octobersownlibra's picture

I don't know to even take anything serious this early in CFB recruiting, especially for a new staff & coach.feels like recruits are kinda waiting to see what day does ultimately this season

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Buck68's picture

Octobersownlibra - "seriously"?  ;-{)}

feels like

it's only common sense... a choice, not an echo?

feel the luv....

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Octobersownlibra's picture

Buck68 I have no idea what you are saying

Ryan day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time

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Kangarooman's picture

Yep. It's an extremely important year if Ohio State wants to stay elite. Recruits want to see results from Day before they commit/are truly committed.

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George Hennen's picture

I’ve been defending Paris and his recruitment for a while so if he flips that would really suck. Holding on to him is priority #1. And if he does flip, hopefully it has no effect on Darrion. 

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CorchUrb's picture

For as successful as we’ve been at recruiting the last few years, I just don’t enjoy following it as much as I used to. The kids now just bounce around and send out smoke screens more than ever. I think social media has a big part to do with it. But you get your hopes up about a kid, and the next week the crystal balls start changing and he commits to another school. You just can’t get excited about a kid until he signs on the dotted line. 

Day needs to to come out this year and kick some ass. This season is extremely important for the future of the program. We need to get back into the playoffs and show we’re still elite without Urban. I’m so hungry for another national title. We have the talent to do it. I’m so sick of Clemson and Georgia. I want a shot at one of them in the playoffs 

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Buck68's picture

exactly how i feel, CorchUrb - it just isn't as 'enjoyable' when the kids do 'too much'... of what we do.

i just can't get... whatever i want... whenever i want it.  And this is 'so wrong' you deserve a million DVs from Me, Up Here on my throne!  But, some kind soul designed this Forum so a poster can only give one vote per post.  How unfair!  ;-{)}

so, let us 'allow' ...the kids to do our NC for us, so it can 'be' ...'ours'.

Meanwhile, we just keep being 'elite' while not getting whatever is the "another title" ...that we keep on so richly deserving? 

Meanwhile, CorchUrb, agree with your overall talent opinion on 4/21/19 that our coaches and players have 'enough' to reach and win in the playoffs in 2019. Tomorrow, this 'could potentially change'... if it hasn't already...changed.   ;-{)}

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dubjayfootball90's picture

I never have any idea how to read your posts... But, like a train wreck, I can't bring myself to look away...

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

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buckeyetyler's picture

I always give Buck68 a HS because he attracts downvotes like crazy, but reading his posts is kind of like solving a puzzle. And I like puzzles. 

They are even harder to decipher when they are grayed out from too many DVs.

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CorchUrb's picture

Buck68 needs to go back to 5th grade and learn how to use proper grammar and punctuation. Maybe then we could understand him better...

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Belliott's picture

I agree with this. On one hand I like to know a bit about the kids coming in, but on the other I’m just not into the let’s fake everything reality show aspect. Can’t say I wouldn’t have done the same at 18 but my dad also would have just looked at me like, really? And i probably would have stopped. 

Pandora’s box man. Can’t escape the recruiting stuff now because I know it’s there. And curiosity will bring me in. 

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Sanitarian2's picture

Few posters on this forum are truly angry with a recruit that decides to take their talent to another university. Disssssapointed certainly, depressed and perhaps a bit miffed but most do not hate. It's the lying, misdirection and gamesmanship, granted from all parties, that grinds upon our souls. When one comes from a world where honor and your word are two of the few things one can truly call their own and others shred those values, it's difficult to understand or accept. 

I have a foot in two worlds much like these athletes though my two worlds are those of extreme wealth and that of the middle class. Existing in those two worlds can be difficult and the lessons taught in youth are paramount to navigating the maze. Excuses abound for many a young athlete, age, upbringing but in the end it is they that reap that which has been sown. 

Then again, we the fan, put far too much angst and energy into those that represent our favorite sporting teams. Jealous we are of their chance to be more than we could ever hope to be, wishing that we could put our will into their bodies. Knowing, not just thinking but knowing how much more we could accomplish with what the genetic lottery has provided to them.

But momma, it ain't fair, Jimmy's mom let's him be a big time college football star.

Sani

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BGSUBucksFan's picture

25+ new comments and not a single update. Honestly, people, I don't care for your opinion on how a recruit handles their business. It's all fair game, so deal with it and please let these threads be about news and not about ranting.

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WoullyBear's picture

Was literally going to say the same thing. If you wanna speculate all day long apply to 247. 

If Ann Arbor is a whore, what's Harbaugh for going back to her?

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Kangarooman's picture

If you only want updates then subscribe to 247?

Gotta love the commenters that come to a fan forum and try to silence opinions and speculation.

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Moneymike's picture

All the updates people want come straight from 247

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

Reads your post...notices your opinion and ranting. Moving on...

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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BGSUBucksFan's picture

Thanks for your contribution. Yes, it takes another opinion to point this out, but I'm far from alone and my opinion falls in line with the original intent of these threads. And, I wouldn't consider three sentences ranting...

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

Right. But you're 1 of 25 different rants about ranting on this thread is just contributing to the ranting problem.

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Seems more than a tad hypocritical to weigh in bitching about comments not including updates when yours doesn’t, either. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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BGSUBucksFan's picture

Oh, please. Try to use better logic than that. Hypocrisy would be me ranting about Paris Johnson above and then pleading for the whining to end below. Not even close to what I did here. It requires a comment to point this out - that doesn't make it hypocritical. For the sake of my original point, this will be my last reply. Couldn't let this terrible logic live.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I’m sorry, tell me again what value your comments have added beyond bitching that no one else’s comments have added value? “Do as I say, not as I do” = the very definition of hypocrisy.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Sanitarian2's picture

Without speculation recruiting threads would be 10 posts long and average one post every two months. One could just read the newspaper to find out when a recruit commits. 

Sani

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

To be fair I don't think his issue was with speculation on where Paris may go. It seemed to be with everyone whining about how he's handled the process. The kid is doing exactly what he said he was going to do.

The truth is fans are annoyed he hasn't fully committed to OSU and frankly he owes the fans nothing. He owes himself to make the right decision. People would be annoyed if he stayed committed and looked at other schools and they'd be mad if he decommitted.

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buckslan's picture

Fans can be mad at how he's handled it. Look at Lejond if you want to see how a recruit has handled their commitment involving coaching changes. Paris is doing everything an uncommitted prospect should do, but doing it as a committed prospect and as a supposed leader of a recruiting class (his words)

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

His words were also that he was going to look at other schools. I find it hard to believe people wouldn't be mad if he had decommited. Lejond is an out of state 4*. Paris is an in-state top-5 overall prospect. Apples to oranges. The kid's final decision will be what it is whether he is committed or uncommitted now. The only people this affects until then are fans on a message board.

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buckslan's picture

The coaching staff is also greatly affected by it. They don't know if their prized recruit is going to be in the class. It messes up the numbers and the prospects they're going to decide to take or not. Paris should have decommitted in December plain and simple. Shit like this is exactly why coaches come up with these no visit policies.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

If he had decommitted they would still be trying to get him in the class. They weren't going to fill the class with OT and not leave a spot open for him either way. Again, whether he decommitted or not it doesn't change the end game. They are aware he could go elsewhere and I am sure are planning accordingly if he does.

No point in going back and forth anymore. You feel how you feel and I disagree. I'd like to get back to actual recruiting talk anyway as the original commenter was advocating for.

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CardaleFTW's picture

People speculated for months about Zach Harrison, and in the end, he was a Buckeye. So until Paris puts pen to paper to sign with Georgia, I’m not worried.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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Sims_tOSU's picture

I wouldn’t consider Parris to Zach. More so Shaun wade. 

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stxbuck's picture

Well that recruitment turned out fine and dandy. Kids are going to tweet stuff during official visits.

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Braxton2Devin's picture

I'm done with days of getting hung up on a sole player. I'm not gonna waste my time or energy on a kid choosing a school to play for. Sure, it'd be nice to land the #1 player in Ohio at a position of need, but if he really wants to spurn his home state to go to UGA, then so be it. I'm not going to get caught up in the games. 

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JacksonOhio5's picture

Paris has been to Georgia at least twice lately, but was it ever confirmed that he also took a visit there that Ohio State's staff didn't know about?  He hasn't been truly committed since Urban retired, but he was also being up front with Day and his staff about all the visits he was taking to other schools.  If he took a "secret" visit to Athens, that would be the most concerning thing for me.

Definitely seems like he has very high interest in the Georgia program, and it seems like people around Athens are very confident they're going to land him.  Really hoping he doesn't flip because it would be bad on a lot of levels.  Another highly ranked in-state OL leaving Ohio, a guy that could influence a lot of other recruits potentially no longer in the class, and also losing a great prospect at a position of need. 

Go Bucks!

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THEGAME513's picture

As I read this I couldn't help but notice your name JacksonOhio. You talking about highly ranked and recruited Ohio o-linemen. Jackson Carmen, now maybe Paris. Odd coincidences do happen.

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Hanawi_'s picture

No one yet has been willing to put in a CB for Paris to switch. Until that happens I'll be optimistic.

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saintstephen11's picture

he is committed only because he didn't officially decommit ... whatever the hell that is. 

OSU is not even in first place right now.

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huffdaddy's picture

meh, he's been to OSU to visit a lot more than he has been to Georgia. Georgia is a legit threat, but until the CBs start turning, I still think we are leading. 

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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Buckeye06's picture

I mean he was at the spring game 2 weeks ago, and he's boys with 2 other cincy kids who are going to end up at OSU.  

Tell me how you know OSU is not in first place.  Unless you're the three eyed raven 

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THEGAME513's picture

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HINYG8's picture

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And on fourth and one... would you believe?

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swflbuckeye1's picture

For anyone that is wondering BK is saying that he is hearing from a really trusted source that nothing has changed in Paris Johnson’s recruitment and he is still committed to the good guys. 

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Article/WIAH-on-Ohio-State-Buck...

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buckslan's picture

Lets hope. I would not be surprised if Paris does indeed flip with Georgia, I mean he's been there like 3 times now this year? But at the same time, the 'good news vibes' we are hearing regarding Paris to Georgia could be just the recruits getting caught up in the moment on their visit, it happens all the time when a recruit is enjoying a visit somewhere and everyone is in their ear telling them to go there.

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huffdaddy's picture

This was his OV right? If he doesn't flip this spring I feel like our chances are decent. 

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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CardaleFTW's picture

Wait, really? Isn't BK the same guy that started the Paris flipping rumors?

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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buckbornbred's picture

I hope Day didn't keep Stud to appease Nester. If so, the decision backfired miserably.
 

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BuckeyeBulldog's picture

I sincerely doubt that is the case at all. There is no way that they keep an assistant coach on staff just for one mid 4* player. It was pretty clear for a while that Nester was practically decommitted as soon as Urbs retired, why else would the staff have gone so hard for Vimahi of they felt good about keeping Nester.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I see Nester’s and Johnson’s recruitments as similar paths—both long time commits you weren’t happy with Urban’s retirement. Between NPF and Vimahi, we landed on our feet when we didn’t get Carman and Nester. Johnson will be a lot harder to replace if he ultimately bolts, especially if it’s on NSD.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Triv's picture

If Johnson isn't committed to UGA by the end of the Summer, I don't think he's leaving the class. I don't think an NSD flip is in the cards for him, he'll be gone by the time his season starts or he'll end up sticking throughout

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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FTWinfrey08's picture

Don’t worry, he didn’t. 

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stxbuck's picture

I'll take Vimahi over Nester any day of the week.

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flying-banana's picture

I only loosely follow recruiting so forgive me if I missed this being discussed, but is there a reason that Justin Rogers is never talked about in the O-Line class? Always seemed like we had an edge in the fabled crystal balls but just seems like he's never discussed at all.

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stxbuck's picture

His ardor towards the Buckeyes seems to have waned considerably. His HS QB recommitted from tOSU for the Dawgs last year, so that probably played a part as well.

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Cincybuckeye's picture

I look at Rogers' recruitment like Rakim Jarrett's: they love playing the recruiting game. I find the best way to approach it is not really pay any attention to it because, most likely, the only news that'll really matter in the end is what school gets in LOI in December. 

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stxbuck's picture

Exactly. some kids like playing the game-which is fine-they always have. For programs that consider themselves 'elite"-tOSU,Bama,Clemson,ND,FSU-recruiting is more of a warning sign than a definitive indicator of who is going to make the playoff next year. If recruits suddenly start decommitting en masse or local recruiting goes into a complete tailspin-like USC last year-that is a sign of deeper problems within the program. Top HS kids being impressed w/ the flavor of the month-that's called life w/ teenagers.

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Cincybuckeye's picture

the only news that'll really matter in the end is what school gets in LOI in December. 

Meant to say the only news that holds any sort of significance. Obviously, where they send their LOI is the only thing that really matters for every recruit lol

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napbuck's picture

Jordan Morant is on a visit today.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Kid keeps a pretty low profile. Interested to see if the needle moves at all. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

BG did his best guess class prediction: 

QB: Miller

RB: Milton or Robinson + Trayamum 

HB: Drennen

TE: Mentioned Theo Johnson but we trail. Also mentioned Lachey and Joe Royer who tore up UA camp recently

WR: JSN, Scott, 1 from Fleming, Jarrett, Rosemary, and 1 of Bunkley-Shelon or Martinez

OL: Johnson, Wypler, Leroux, James, Carmody + 1 more - 2 guys to watch are Branson Taylor and Anton Harrison

DL: Henry and Thomas possibly but the rest is too tough to predict right now. Said its been a head scratcher to this point

LB: Thinks we can win the Sherman sweepstakes and we aren't making decisions on LB until he makes his decision. Next guys would be Kourt Williams who has said he wants in and Mitchell Melton. Thinks we take 2. 

DB: Cavazos, Gray, Hyatt, Ransom, Phillips

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Article/How-are-things-looking-...

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Also want to mention he thinks we land UK QB Gunner Hoak as a transfer

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huffdaddy's picture

When I first read this, I thought, "Wow, a British QB, at least interviews will sound cool."

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I can live with that...but I think they get 2 from Jarrett, Fleming and Rosemary. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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NHBuckeye's picture

That’s a damn good class!  

Is Martinez being recruited as a WR?  I thought DB.   

But if we end up with what BG is saying I’ll be thrilled.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Will probably be a fight over what room he goes to but IMO he's too dangerous with the ball in his hands to play defense. He plays QB and was killing DB's at a camp last month as a WR. I still like my comp of Jalin Marshall for him too. 

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urbansjacket2's picture

Fully aligned with you Spoon--I definitely see Jalin Marshall 2.0, hopefully with some better injury luck (and honestly maybe a little more top end juice). Think he's due for a major ratings bump

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CardaleFTW's picture

Interesting that he doesn't have Atteberry in there. Also, I would hate to see both Morant and Paige head north. They are both very good players. I think Hafley should really go in for both of them instead of "settling" for Hyatt. (I hate to use that word because Hyatt is a good player) 

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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WoullyBear's picture

If Ann Arbor is a whore, what's Harbaugh for going back to her?

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huffdaddy's picture

I put in the somewhat conservative version of this into the class calculator - Milton + Trayamum; Rosemy + Martinez; Lachey (only TE); Anton Harrison (and Carmody); Henry + Thomas (and that's it at D Line); Kourt + Melton (no Sherman); and the DBs listed.

Gets us to 304 points. 

Obviously still some big pulls there, plus holding Johnson. But also not picking the highest of everything above (I don't believe we are getting Sherman but maybe?). 

But anyway, 300+ would be a top 4 class. For all the folks saying we have to take our lumps and wait until Day proves himself...

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Anything around or above 300 every year is a great class with the assumption its at least 22 or higher total kids 

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Buckeye06's picture

Is it fair to say he is a "backup" to Jarrett? Would OSU take his commit today?

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Great question. That's my theory, though nobody is paying me to enter CBs. 

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CardaleFTW's picture

Defensive line recruitment this year has been an absolutely mystery. I really like Jordan Banks from Los Angeles though. 247 has him listed at 6'1" 228 but Rivals has him listed 6'4" 245. He visited for Student Appreciation Day and I believe his father said we were the leader after the visit.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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Hanawi_'s picture

Based on the interview after his recent Oklahoma visit, seems like they and Alabama are the leaders. Only two he knows will definitely get official visits.

Seems similar to lot of guys they are recruiting this year. Versatility and positional flexibility seem to be a common theme on defense.

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George Hennen's picture

What happened to Atteberry? Is he still expected to be a Buckeye? I thought we were leading by a pretty big margin and he was considered to be a very good prospect who could play G, C, and maybe even some T. Who else would we be holding out on him for?

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CardaleFTW's picture

I'm puzzled by the situation too. Surprised the staff would take not one, but two, low-ranked projects from Ohio, but not take a 4* guy that can play anywhere on the line.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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George Hennen's picture

James is an underrated guy who is probably around the same level as Atteberry once he develops, but Leroux definitely is not. At least not yet. The potential is there for Leroux because of his size. I would love to see him drop to the 310 range in the mold of a Taylor Decker. That being said I want Atteberry in this class due to his versatility. Rare you come across OL that can play 4-5 positions on the line. Hopefully him and Carmody finish out this class. 

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urbansjacket2's picture

Ding Ding Ding. Insane to me as well. At the risk of being controversial (and negative) Leroux should not have had a committable offer at this point. It's a wild overreaction by Stud being embarrassed in past 2 years with in-state kids and jumping on a project who wasn't even really on MSU-type radars yet. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

I'm in agreement that Leroux should've been a camp offer but you can't teach his size. With that said I'm more surprised that an offer was extended to him over Branson Taylor from Elyria. Watch his film below and watch the 3rd play where he takes a squib kick and returns it for 40 yards. He's athletic as hell at 6-6 285. 

As for Atteberry I love his film but James is the equal or better talent at G IMO. 

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NorthPoleBuckeye's picture

Day doesn't have the final say on which commitments OSU takes?

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urbansjacket2's picture

Of course he does, but position coaches lobby for their guys, and for the 5th/6th OL in the class, I’m unsurprised Day would let Stud pick who he wants. Leroux has ceiling but he’s a long way away...and like Spooner said, I actually don’t mind if you camp the guy and offer him later, but it’s not like he was hellbent on committing to Bowling Green and we had to take him when we did. 

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Kangarooman's picture

It's weird he was given a commitable offer so soon. It's been a weird recruiting cycle after a weird year. Slow playing Thomas while letting Leroux commit?
Baffling. Part of me thinks OSU has just been overthinking things.

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Octobersownlibra's picture

How do we even know if stud was the one who accepted him

Ryan day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time

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stxbuck's picture

I love how internet geniuses who have never seen a kid live or in camps know he was a mistaken offer. Also, as far as whole "radar" things go-every halfway decent MAC type kid in Ohio is on MSU's and tOSU's "radar" via scouts and birddogs. The starhanderouters on 24/7 just aren't saying anything b/c the early spotters don't have anything to do w/ them. Awareness of a recruit does not equal =highly considering offering

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urbansjacket2's picture

Watch his tape and tell me that tape shows him as a sure-fire take for a national title contender...

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stxbuck's picture

HS highlight tapes are popcorn for morons like us who have never seen the kids live in person or in a camp or spoken to their HS coaches or know their circumstances,athletic backgrounds,etc,etc. Smart coaches evaluate-and rank-and offer players based on far more than one tape. If you can't understand that, well, go back to your regularly scheduled "recruiting' session on your X-box NCAA 2019.

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WoullyBear's picture

NCAA 2019???? Where can I purchase??? /s.

If Ann Arbor is a whore, what's Harbaugh for going back to her?

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George Hennen's picture

Here's my post spring/pre summer class predictions

QB: Jack Miller

RB: Lawrence Toafili, Jutahn McClain

WR: Gee Scott, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Julian Fleming, Mike Drennen (H), Cam Martinez (H)

TE: Cam Large, Luke Lachey

OL: Paris Johnson, Luke Wypler, Jakob James, Trey Leroux, Michael Carmody, Anton Harrison

DT: Darrion Henry

DE: Jaheim Thomas, Deontae Craig

LB: Mitch Melton, Kourt Williams (LB/Bullet)

DB: Lejond Cavasoz (FS/CB), Henry Gray (CB), Clark Phillips (CB), Jordan Morant (SS/Bullet), Ricky Hyatt (SS/Bullet)

K: Jake Seibert

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NHBuckeye's picture

Do you know where OSU stands with Morant?  I know he just visited (for a day) but prior to that I haven't seen his name tied to the Buckeyes.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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George Hennen's picture

I think its between us as scUM and I like our chances. He's a former teammate of Jean-Baptiste

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CardaleFTW's picture

3 H-backs in one class, interesting.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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George Hennen's picture

McClain is a RB in my books. Martinez could play H, Z, or DB. 

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buckbuck12's picture

I think we have a better chance of getting Latham Ransom, who is a baller to. 

ZzBB

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Northbrook's picture

247 shows Rylie Mills a DE out of Illinois coming in for an official this weekend. Looks like a guy who wants to make an early decision; has already had officials to ND and Wisconsin. Not sure what our interest level is but I'd assume high since it is an official visit.

https://247sports.com/player/rylie-mills-46051962/

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napbuck's picture

According to what I have seen he has a great relationship with Mattison, but yeah ND seems to be the favorite right now. We have some big time officials this weekend, this could be a big weekend for the 2020 class.

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buckbuck12's picture

As expected, Bresee to Clemson.

ZzBB

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