Skull Session: ESPN's Playoff Predictor Snubs Ohio State, Von Miller Wants Dwayne Haskins, and the Golden Bear Talks Tiger

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

My take on a playoff “snub” has more to do with the schedule next year not being very daunting, but the simple fact is that it’s still really difficult to go undefeated even if you don’t have a tough slate of games. Looking at the schedule, if the buckeyes drop one along the way it would be fairly easy for them to be left out, but I personally think it’s more likely the buckeyes go undefeated as opposed to lose one. Penn state will be down, I don’t believe Nebraska is on the level yet, and TTUN is going to be a dumpster fire.

it should probably come down to the big ten championship and one again, I don’t really see a contender in the west 

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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PhillyNut's picture

I agree that the OOC is lacking but this might be the toughest in conference schedule on paper they have had in awhile. Having Wisky and Northwestern in addition to the east division games is no walk in the park. And they don't get a Division 1A game between playing PSU and ttun at the end of the regular season.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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awlinBrutus's picture

I think OSU plays ND and Texas in 2 years. This year is an exception, we usually always have 1 big ooc game a year. Tennessee & UGA both backed out of games the last few years.

MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS

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hetuck's picture

OSU cancelled both the Georgia and Tennessee series at the request of the B1G in anticipation of the B1G-PAC 12 Challenge. That fizzled because the PAC-12 realized it was tough to do with a nine-game conference schedule. At the time, the B1G played eight. I'd bring back the Challenge to replace the ninth game for both conferences. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

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BucksHave7's picture

TTUN plays ND (28% chance to make playoff which is laughable too)

TTUN plays Wisky and Iowa

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

And the Alabama and Clemson schedules are daunting? Not surprising that the two teams who were busted for steroid use in its players are at the top. The NCAA will again bury its head (think North Carolina cheating scandal) and let both teams skate on the issue. 

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Naw, they'll pay. The NCAA will come back in a year or two and penalize their club volleyball teams as punishment.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

No, they're not daunting, but they don't lose... That's the difference. Ohio State wins out, they're in, period.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

2009 was the last time that Alabama went undefeated in a season. 

Clemson was undefeated this past year but 1981 was the last time that they had a perfect record prior to 2018.

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BbBnD's picture

Correction: They don’t lose to mediocre/bad teams in embarrassing fashion. 

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

When you are pumped up on steroids you should be able to hang with most teams...

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iowabuckeyes's picture

As the FPI “strongly values returning production,” that translates to proven offensive firepower, which also presumes nine returning starters on defense and a punter who can control games don’t factor. Every one of those nine teams has a returning QB starter except, technically, Oklahoma, and all of them have last year’s coach back. Ohio State has neither. If that’s what it takes to be on this list, then it’s understandable why we’re not.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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TNT's picture

Exactly right. Without knowing the details of their equation, my initial thoughts were "brand new coach, brand new QB, abysmal returning defense." Well outside the top 4 seems like a reasonable person's expectation for 2019... Not that that has ever kept anyone in Columbus from expecting a national title.

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Extramedium's picture

It is understandable why they are off the list according to this formula.  

What I don't understand is why websites and sports networks seem to think we should care what their formulae spit out every year.  Are they trying to show off who has the best mathematicians on staff and are we supposed to be impressed?

I can't remember whichever one put Shea Patterson above Dwayne Haskins in terms of QB production last season, but it's like they are eager to show off how pointless it is to put any stock into what a math equation knows about football 

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BucksHave7's picture

We all know this year’s Buckeye team would beat last years Buckeye team.  

Add in that Maryland is the only other B10 East school that got better this year. 

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Dillon G's picture

When discussing who should be in last year, FPI was barely a blip. It was Joel Klatt that brought it up because of the phony rankings. That is the problem. FPI has them lower right now, so they mention it.

#walkaway

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Hovenaut's picture

If I'd have had rage yoga when I was younger I might have taken the 90's a little more peacefully.

Hell, I might still be watching ESECPN (c'mon, this is too easy)...

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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NHBuckeye's picture

I get the feeling that Rage Yoga is not going to catch on. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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Hovenaut's picture

Too beautiful to last, unfortunately.

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I get the Tiger’s back buzz but I struggle with it being good for golf. It’s easy for Jack, who was the Tiger of his era, to say that but I’d like to know what Dustin Johnson, Justin Rose and Brooks Koepka, who are ranked 1-2-3, feel about that. It tells me the PGA doesn’t have a recognizable and marketable face even though the sport should be bigger than any one player. Tiger’s rise and fall from grace proves the PGA needs to continue diversifying its assets so that its appeal doesn’t hinge on one player's popularity.

That said, does Tiger have his own cologne, something that smells like fresh cut grass, wet feet and an old leather golf back?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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PhillyNut's picture

The Masters has always been kind to older players who get hot. Not so much for the two Opens. PGA can be hit or miss in terms of being challenging. Despite what Tiger showed this weekend and closing out last season his window to be able to be competitive week in and week out is closing.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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BucksHave7's picture

Sunday was perfect example of why many people claim PGA is fixed. 

4 outa 5 golfers on #12 miss the green or back trap on a 155 yard shot?  It just doesnt make sense.

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naplesbuckeye's picture

I have never heard a credible source make that accusation.   I am not sure that you have ever been to Augusta National or to TPC Sawgrass.  Hitting a small target with a good amount of wind is not something that is automatic.  Throw in nerves and huge galleries and the shot can be very difficult.  At TPC Sawgrass one year the pros for 132 yards dunked 93 balls in the water.   And for the non pros, an estimated 100,000 balls find the water there.  

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BucksHave7's picture

Sorry to say you are wrong on your 2nd sentence.   

Here are the facts and details in link.  Your avg (avg, not top) Tour Players typically only miss a 150 yard shot within 2 yards.  Now 4 of 5 missing the green completely and Tiger being the only 1 to hit it?  Makes you wonder.

http://www.golfwrx.com/271279/pros-v-amateurs-shots-from-100-yards-and-150-yards/

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JJBuckeye's picture

Who are these many people?  Go Bucks

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BUCKfutter's picture

on a tightly bunched leaderboard with the world's best players, it's not unfathomable that they would hit at that pin, which under normal circumstances is regarded as a mistake - the slightest wind gust and you're wet. that was magnified sunday by the fact that a weather system was coming in. the wind on that hole is even under normal circumstances notoriously impossible to judge. why don't you ask YE yang from the 2008 pga if it's rigged in favor of tiger?

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Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Yeah, that's what is happening... the PGA is fixing the tournament so Tiger can win.  The amount of stupidity in that statement is jaw dropping! It is the Master's Tournament, on Sunday and we're talking Amen Corner.  They didn't just pick that name out of the blue - those holes are brutal, especially when you're in the hunt of the Green Jacket.  Here's a thought - instead of laying out some vast, complicated, lacking of reality conspiracy theory - perhaps it is because veteran golfers have played Augusta a large number of times.  They know the course, they know how to play it, they know where the pin placements will be and how the greens roll.  That is the beauty of Augusta - make a mistake and it will punish you, hard!  But hey, go ahead and continue to believe some idiotic conspiracy theory!

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Extramedium's picture

Technically everyone's window is closing.  But as long as his back (and mental state) holds up, there's no reason he can't keep up at this pace for many more years.  It's golf. The guy who's record he's chasing was not in near the physical shape Tiger is in at the same age.

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MGOBLUE0205's picture

I don't think Woods will catch Nicklaus, but even if he does, I don't think he's the greatest ever. Woods and Nicklaus played in different era's, Nicklaus wasn't playing in all these smaller tourneys, the clubs and balls used today are making some tough courses obsolete when you can almost drive a par 4. Also, Jack has MANY more top 5 or top 2 finishes in majors(dunno the exact number) which to me means he was the far more consistent golfer. Jack will always be the greatest in my mind, and i'm a Michigan fan. Doesn't matter where he went to school.

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BucksHave7's picture

Agreed and a well thought out post!

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Mortc15's picture

It being good for golf hinges on the number of tv sets tuned in. I can 1000% assure you, thousands of people were only tuned in Sunday because of Tiger being in contention, including myself. 

We can debate the optics of it and whether his own mistakes should really make this a 'comeback for the ages' but Tiger being 'good for golf' cannot be denied. 

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lamplighter's picture

but there are some of us who turned off the sets.

Have never denied his talent, but not a fan. Really tired of the man crush that the networks have with him.  I muted the sound on the parts I did watch

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Buckloving's picture

"The networks have with him"...…..Did you not see the gallery? Have you not followed the news? Pretty sure it's not just the networks

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Berg2004's picture

For entertainment purposes, give me John Daly over Tiger any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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Tony Stark's picture

I agree. Though the networks need to pump up tiger for ratings. What upsets me is when they compare his "comeback" to the greatest U.S. sporting event above the U.S. defeating the Russians in  Olympic hockey, not even close.

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Mortc15's picture

Theyll take a 100 to 1 tradeoff every single day and twice on Master's Sunday, i can guarantee it. 

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MichiBuck12's picture

The reason Tiger is so good for the game is because he's the only player thats really interesting. There are a lot of layers to Tigers story. None of the other guys have that. I'm a pretty big golf fan and I really like the fact that pretty much every one of the big names in the sport are very likable guys (except Patrick Reed. Fuck that guy). I really enjoy that because I can root for everyone, but I can see how there isn't mass appeal to that. I mean, the NBA's popularity is soaring because of all the off court drama. The product on the court kinda sucks, but every NBA fan I know is glued to the drama and the storylines. Golf doesn't have that outside of Tiger. And for a sport that isn't fast paced, and doesn't really come with a lot of action, you need storylines to keep the masses interested. Ricky Fowler, Jordan Speith, and Justin Rose getting together for bible study every week is cool, but its not going to get people to sit down and watch the sport, I can't sell that to my friends that don't golf. Dustin Johnson being married to Wayne Gretzky's daughter is interesting but unless shes on camera, nobody cares. Tiger having 4 back surgeries, 4 knee surgeries, and crashing his car because his wife was chasing him with a 9-iron for banging every cocktail waitress between here and Timbuktu and then coming all the way back to win the Masters is a fuckin storyline. I can sell that to my friends that don't watch golf.

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BucksHave7's picture

Tiger is a media darling created by Nike.  Lotsa lies were hidden about him and his family to make a dollar. His parents werent even living under the same roof starting when he went to Stanford. Yet we all thought they were these peaceful doubting parents. His father would call him racial names at the age of 5 to get him to handle crowd pressure. His parents were ruthless whose only goal was to create a golf champion since he was 2. 

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Buckloving's picture

Get some help brother

bobbyd

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Sounds like Todd Marinovich, whose father raised him to be a pro quarterback, a goal he attained but he couldn’t handle life in general once he was out from under his father’s thumb. Bill Clinton claimed he was the self described “good son” yet he had his own creepy private side, much like his idol, JFK. Tiger’s more proof that the higher the pedestal someone’s put on, the harder the landing when they fall. In his case, though, he seems to have bounced. Maybe he should change his name to Tigger...

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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blueblazer22's picture

Ahh, Patrick Reed. As a wrestling fan I can appreciate Reed for being a true heel. Is he a good player? Yes. Would he be as well known if he was one of the guys you refer to that have no story and therefore aren’t as interesting as Tiger? No. Reed takes the heel role and embraces it, for better or worse. 

I don’t watch a ton of golf these days, but if I see Reed or Kuchar (just always liked the kid from Georgia Tech) then I am more likely to stop changing channels. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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MichiBuck12's picture

Reed does embrace the heel role. As much as I don't like him, I think golf could use more guys like him. 

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Golf doesn't have that outside of Tiger. And for a sport that isn't fast paced, and doesn't really come with a lot of action, you need storylines to keep the masses interested

Which is exactly why John Daly was such a hit in golf.

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So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
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BucksHave7's picture

The problem with todays golf is that no one or two or 3 or 4 golfers is dominating the sport that we can all follow from week to week.  We have first time majors winners (except past Sunday) winning majors.   Its an easier field to win against in today's golf. Sundays leader boards are filled with guys who havent won majors before. 

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MichiBuck12's picture

Easier field to win in? Are you insane? There were 7 guys within 5 strokes of winning the Masters last weekend that have wins in Majors plus Rickie Fowler who has finished in the top 3 of all 4 majors but hasn't won one yet. And not to mention guys like Phil, Spieth, Rory, and Adam Scott who finished in the 20. It was one of the strongest fields ever. The reason there aren't a handful of golfers totally dominating is because its one of the most difficult fields ever to win against not the easiest.

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BucksHave7's picture

The guys today are not week in and week out consistent or year to year consistent. .  

Just look at the number of majors won in final leaderboard from Sun.  No one on top 10, except Tiger had more than 1 major won to date.  Where as Jack battled major multiple winners every major. 

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MichiBuck12's picture

John Daly is still a hit in golf. Outside of Tiger, the best story from the Masters was John Daly signing some girls ass at a bar in Augusta the night before the tournament started.

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BucksHave7's picture

John Daly is my fav golfer.  Read his book, its a great read.  Its honest. 

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cledaybuck's picture

Tiger was popular before any of that though.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

You answered your own argument. Tiger was/is a player who transcends the game of golf. He brings viewers who, otherwise, wouldn't watch or follow the game of golf. The PGA recognized this so when Tiger was suspended years ago, they created a bogus excuse for the suspension instead of announcing the real culprit...PEDs. 

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okiebuck's picture

I didn't think Tigger would win another major. I figured that his ex wife put the hex on him and made a deal with the Golf God's who sided with her on the whole "hell hath no fury like a women scorned" deal. Jack > Tiger, every day of the week and twice on Sundays!
 

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Extramedium's picture

I'd say it's good for the sport overall, regardless of what they have to say about it.  I wouldn't have even known the Masters was happening if it wasn't for the hype around Tiger.  The problem with golf is that it's golf, and it's incredibly boring to watch for anyone who doesn't play or hasn't played a lot of it.  And I feel like that pool of people has been shrinking for a long time.  I can't imagine many people I know being able to carve ~5 hours out of their weekend to play 18 holes.

The sport's current level of popularity has nothing to do with anything the PGA can control, Tiger did that on his own by being a phenom and capturing the world's interest with his domination.

His "fall from grace" and struggles to return to form since have kept everyone watching. Apart from genuine fans of the sport who would sit and watch a golf tournament for hours each day over the course of multiple days instead of about 1000 other things, not enough people even knows the names of Dustin Johnson, Justin Rose or Brooks Koepka.   But now at least some do, only because Tiger won the Master's.

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Cruiser79's picture

Drive for show - Putt for dough as the saying goes. That is one of the biggest difference between Jack and Tiger and winning Majors. 

Go Bucks!!!

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BucksHave7's picture

Dont even get me started on Jack v Tiger. 

Sunday for example, Tigers benefits from a weak era in golf. For example, co leaders were guys who are nobodies in golf in terms of # of majors won.  Jack had to beat Palmer, Watson, Player, Irwin, Trevino, Kite, Ballesteros. 

Jack finished in majors 2nd place 19 times and Tiger 6. 

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allinosu's picture

AND, Johnny Miller while he was on fire.

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BucksHave7's picture

Exactrly and If Im correct besides Tiger, the final top 10 from Sunday had tiger and 3 one time major winners in it (day, koepka and johnson) and thats all. 

Jacks Sunday leader boards included: Player 9, Watson 8, Palmer 7, Trevino 6, Ballesteros 5 to name a few.

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Cruiser79's picture

I knew I should have clarified my statement this morning. I was saying that Tiger and Jack won Majors and tournaments in general because they could putt. Not who was the better of the two. If I had to pick it would be Jack due to his 18 vs. 14. 

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

Jack had to beat Palmer, Watson, Player, Irwin, Trevino, Kite, Ballesteros.

But here's the thing: he didn't have to beat all of them at the same time. Palmer won his last major in 1964; Watson's career didn't really get going till the mid-70s; and Ballesteros emerged as a teenager at the 1976 British Open, not peaking until Jack was clearly on the downside.

I think very few people who follow golf don't believe the talent pool in the sport is getting deeper all the time.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Hard to say if the talent pool is getting deeper or there just isn't a dominate golfer in this era. 

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BucksHave7's picture

The talent pool is broader and more diverse.  Thats for sure.  But clearly Tiger has benefited from playing at an era where the talent pool that isnt comprised of multiple majors champions.  

Seems every major winner now adays is winning his first major. 

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

There were probably 5-6 golfers playing in the Master's this past weekend that had won 3-5 majors each. When Nicklaus played, he faced a max of 3-4 multiple major winners. Hard to try to compare eras, but to say the talent pool is terribly different is, IMO, inaccurate.

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BucksHave7's picture

Really?  list here the 5-6 golfers you say playing in the Masters past Weekend that had won 3-5 majors each.  

Nicklaus played w Player (9), Watson (8), Palmer (7), Trevino (6) an Seve (5). Some names of Woods Majors runner ups....Immelman, Z Johnson, Beem, Yang and Cmapbell. 

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Seve was really toward the end of the Nicklaus era of dominance.

But, here you go. 

Tiger Woods 15

Vijay Singh 3

Phil Mickelson 5

Rory Mcllroy 4

Jordan Spieth 3

Brooks Keopka 3

And 7 other golfers had won two majors each.

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BucksHave7's picture

Vijay and Phil are still in their prime?

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Don't deflect, BH7, you asked me to list the 5-6 golfers in this year's Master's that had three or more majors to their resume, not only ones who were in their prime. Palmer was nearing the end of his run when Nicklaus came on the scene. Take your medicine and walk away. 

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BucksHave7's picture

Indeed.  But it’s a stretch to compare Palmer and Player to Vijay and Phil.  

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

We weren't comparing players...we were listing the number of Majors each player won. Phil could be included in the conversation with Palmer and Player...Vijay, not so much.

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Extramedium's picture

That doesn't necessarily mean it's a weak era.  It means there is more competition, and a more level playing field. 

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GunnerBuck's picture

We have to replace a 5000 yard/50TD passer. 2700 yards in receiving with 30 TD's and 1000 yards rushing. Not to mention replace 2 3+ year starters on the OL., a first team all B1G DL and the best player in college football. Couple all that wiith what is basically a whole new staff and you can't expect teams to be particularly high on Ohio St. No matter how good you think Day is. 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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BucksHave7's picture

Its the pass only offense that defenses were able to stop last year.  No diversity in offense killed us in red zone. 

Fields can sling it, highest rated tOSU recruit ever and can run like TP.  Fields would start at any B10 school this year.  He is that good.  We are just fine w Hill, Mack, Olave and Wilson at WR.   Our OL is fine, you know we have Jonah now (former RU captain) and 4 and 5 stars who have played before right?

Our D this year will be better. Bosa was gone all but 2 games last year and we finished #3. 

Bottomline: This years buckeye team beats last years buckeye team (finished #3) head to head. 

We've recruited top 3 avg stars class for 6 years running now.  

Add in that only Maryland in the B10 East improved yr over yr (no wisky and no iowa) and Buckeyes are in the NC hunt!!!!

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GunnerBuck's picture

You completely missed the point...

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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BucksHave7's picture

You really think last years team would bet this years team?    

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Extramedium's picture

It doesn't matter... the ranking is based on an algorithm that doesn't take common sense and deductive reasoning into account.  Anyone who gets excited or upset about it is missing the point. 

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GunnerBuck's picture

What does last years team have to do with this years team?

But to answer your question, as of now yes I do. Haskins would throw for 1000 yards against that secondary.

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Its the pass only offense that defenses were able to stop last year.  No diversity in offense killed us in red zone. 

Except for the fact OSU essentially had three 1000-yd rushers: Dobbins, Weber and Campbell.

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CowCat's picture

I don't put much stock in pre-season predictions, especially those based on an algorithm.

The joy of college football is that you get basically a brand new team every year. It's kind of like Christmas.

Who knows what will happen? It could all magically come together, or go off the tracks. What I *do* know is that Ohio State fans like me that lived through the Cooper years won't tolerate poor performance.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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MichiBuck12's picture

Jack is nothing but class. I love watching Tiger and I'm rooting for him. But I would not be upset if Jack kept the record for Majors. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

As a Buckeye fan, I wouldn’t mind if Jack keep the record, just as I prefer to see juniors and seniors win the Heisman because it means Archie’s distinction of being the only two-time winner remains safe. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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TMac's picture

less than a 1 percent chance to win the College Football Playoff this season, behind teams like Michigan,

Keep feeding that perception to those fans Up North. It's fun when they think they finally have the team and then crawl back into their den after giving up 62. 

ONE Not Done!

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SpiderBuckeyes's picture

Well, I still believe EsecPN is against tOSU, because the owner of EsecPN is also owner of SEC Network. I've read for years, I can't pretend that they're unbiased. Before we beat Ala, it said tOSU shouldn't be allowed to fly there for a playoff, because we kept losing to SEC back then. They suggested they block us. They even refused to recognize that we beat Ark. It commented to a RB teen from Fla who wanted to commit to tOSU by saying "Why do you want to go far away and it's cold there." It didn't even bullied northerners or westerners who wanted to go to SEC territory by saying "Why do you want to go far away and suffer in hot and humid?" I corrected OSU-hating commenter on ESPN website. Know what? They blocked me. I can't even comment there. They invited Tua and Kyle, but not Dwayne, even though he may be better than Kyle and is in no question better than Tua. Before we played at Sugar Bowl, McShay made ~5 minutes long speech about why tOSU will lose to Ala. And so on.

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SpiderBuckeyes's picture

P.S. I was watching briefly on Ala-Wisc game. Derrick Henry rushed. I visually measured how many yards he run, before they show how many yards he run in "caption", it showed more yards than he actually did. It was either their mistake or they tried to trump up for him. He later won Heisman that year. I wish I watched more Ala games to find out if they repeated trumping up his yards or not. 

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BuckeyeDropout's picture

Lol this is good. 

What we have currently available is what we have available.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Spider, that’s one heck of a tangled web of conspiracy theory. When you start measuring a player’s rushing yards and getting permanently banned from commenting on sites, you need to find a new hobby because it means your obsession has taken control of your life.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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SpiderBuckeyes's picture

I don't get why it's funny. I care for OSU football. It's naive to think that people do right things. Many CEOs do dirty to get more profits! I also don't get why I get 3 downvotes. I'm such a fan and you said my obsession has taken control of my life? I happen to have 99.8 percentile IQ, so it's easy and fun to visually measure. Don't assume about people you don't know. What has obsession do with being banned from commenting on ESPN.com? Did you ever wonder why they banned my commenting? I read about OSU football, because I'm a fan and it's one of my hobbies. Why are you here? You may have many obsessions to function in this world due to your even average IQ like studying hard all your academic life, etc. I'm surprised if you don't think EsecPN is unbiased and not ruining our team in some ways. Remember a Tennessean linebacker decommited and joined Clemson based on false reports about Urban? It's one of tips of iceberg.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

1) I was serious; 2) nice response—it only proves my point. I mean, 99.8% IQ percentile? Really? When you start bragging about the size of your penis, you have a problem. And it sure doesn’t mean you know how to use it for anything more than a pissing contest. (I’m trusting you understand I’m using penis as a metaphor.) I’ll have to trust you’re smart but I believe some of your wires have gotten crossed.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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SpiderBuckeyes's picture

On my first sentence, I responded to BuckeyeDropout. I responded to you on the rest of my comment. If you're serious, please, think about what EsecPn are doing to us. I can understand some people would compare that to Small Penis Syndrome (bragging in compensation for lack of). You're right I have to prove my intelligent for some reasons as I seldom do, not bragging. You seemed to say I had an obsession with measuring yards as if it was hard to do so, hence I had to prove you. 

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SpiderBuckeyes's picture

P.S. I reckon you're smart, too. You correctly commented "banned me from commenting" rather than something like "banned me". Thumb up.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

I actually happen to have 99.9 percentile IQ. Boom.

SpiderBuckeyes's picture

Me, too. Boom. I grew up in oral schools with education abuses and language deprivation. When I was h.s. senior, my English skill was equal to 5th grade. The last time I took the test before I finally had a qualified professor fluency in ASL at Gallaudet U to help me with  my English skill, the person, who gave me the test, wrote that my vocabulary skill is equal to average man of my age. In 1930s, there was a rumor in America that average Hispanic had low IQ, but they didn't realize that they got English version tests. Lol.

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SpiderBuckeyes's picture

I was embarrassed to comment here. You have Castberggaard Syndrome to immoral EsecPN's biases hurting our recruitment in some ways. I was helping you to see that way, you just downvoted me. You're losers. You're not true fans or civilians. My uncle played for Woody Hayes. He was one of his favorites. He was shy and quit. Woody kept calling his mother hoping to have him back. I take pleasure to stoop low to your levels...fuck off.

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buckeyepastor's picture

Given that the title runs in ‘68, ‘02, and ‘14 all came in seasons where nothing was expected of us, I am fine with being counted out. 

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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TMac's picture

NFL teams will pass on Dwayne Haskins at their own peril. 

ONE Not Done!

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

NFL teams will pass on Haskins; Haskins will pass all over those teams.

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Oh, Navy, weighing in with a nifty little twist on words. I like it.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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OH-IO's picture

ESPN playoff percentages in April doesn't mean jack. 

OH-IO living in SEC! SEC! Ville

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NHBuckeye's picture

ESPN playoff percentages in April doesn't mean jack.

FTFY 

Fields of Dreams

 

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

ESecPN playoff percentages in April doesn't mean jack.

FTFY

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Hovenaut's picture

Look, amongst the rubble, a lone truth shines ever so brightly...
 

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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Extramedium's picture

It'll be the same in October.  It's based on a math formula, not anyone's analysis.

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hetuck's picture

1. I wish Vegas based their CFP futures based on the ESPN FPI desideratum. They are smarter than that and don't want to risk taking a bath like Rhode Island casinos did on the Super Bowl. 

https://www.theday.com/article/20190206/BIZ02/190209671 

2. IIRC, Urban and Wisniewski are neighbors. If there is an empty house on their Muirfield cul de sac, I'd rather they work on Duchene signing long-term. 

3. Speaking of Muirfield, Tiger's return would do wonders for Memorial tickets. Perhaps Jack's comment had an ulterior motive. Send in Urban to close the deal. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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kmp10's picture

Chasing arguably the greatest golfer of all time is hard enough when you don't have a decade-long drought, but Tiger finally notched another one this weekend with his Master's win. He's now just four wins away from tying the rcord

Chasing arguably the greatest golfer of all time is hard enough when you don't have a decade-long drought, but Tiger finally notched another one this weekend with his Master's win. He's now just four wins away from tying the record...

Jack won 18 majors, Woods now has 15... he's three from tying the record. Here's what makes Jack the greatest ever... in addition to his 18 major championships, he also has 19 runners-up. That's thirty-seven times Nicklaus finished either first or second in a major championship. It's almost unfathomable. 

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

I know they've changed the difficulty of courses over the years, but I don't think it's been concomitant with the change in golf technology from Jack's era to today. Clubs, balls, strength training, nutrition, etc. have completely altered the game of golf from what it used to be.  Comparing Nicklaus and Woods is akin to comparing Jesse Owens to Carl Lewis.

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Carl Lewis doesn't have a gym on south campus that's packed with tons of gorgeous 19 year olds.

Advantage: Jesse Owens

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Dirty old man: (n) person named NorCal Byckeye.

       - Webster's Dictionary

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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blueblazer22's picture

It is hard to believe that stories like the one in Iran with women not/barely being able to attend soccer matches are still a thing. I know they are, and we know why in Iran in particular, but it still seems odd. Thankful for being in the US; even if things aren’t always rosy here we still don’t have to worry about things like women having to disguise themselves just to watch soccer. 

I am not so sure that Tiger has any majors left in him, but I also would not have expected he could win this Masters either so maybe he can catch Jack. I wouldn’t bet on it however. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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Extramedium's picture

Stuff like this just makes me want to go over there and ask everyone what year they think this is.

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livinginthegrey's picture

If I wanted someone to click-on or talk about my playoff “predictor” in APRIL, I would leave out a perennial top 10 team with one of the largest fan bases. I might throw in that team’s overrated, underperforming rival, just for fun. Then I would watch the clicks and count my money. Who cares about the validity, as long as I’m making money and talking about next year. 

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Extramedium's picture

It's a math formula, not anyone's analysis.  Based on the formula, the rankings make sense.

Why they think anyone should care about the quality of their formula, and why anyone does, is beyond me.

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NOBLUE's picture

who the F*** is teegor whoods and whats he got to do with OSU.....

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bucked up's picture

The Marc Smith reference just gave me Vietnam-like flashbacks from eight years ago. That was the most challenging subject I took at OSU and I didn’t even major in business (not because of Marc, but because accounting itself insanely hard). 

I even saved Hundreds of printed pages worth of coursework from that class and keep it tucked away in a filing cabinet. Just for the hell of it. 

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buckeye in dp's picture

Had Mark Smith for advanced accounting 15 years ago.  He was a great accounting instructor and made material easy to learn.  Of course I was an accounting major.

Quick story. Entered business college not knowing what to major in.  After taking the two intro to accounting courses that all business majors needed I decided on accounting.  Main reason was all the finance, marketing, admin, etc majors complained so much about accounting that I didn't want to be in classes with them going forward.

11W lurker since 2011, joined in 2017

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

I took the Accounting business minor course and I think we had Marc in person. IIRC, they also had the online videos available, but my memory might be merging with all the references on here. I recall cramming for the final exam with a buddy and him mimicking Marc's video intro line. This was ~2005.

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

My Buckeye Desideratum is a Tight End who can be a receiver and a Quarterback who can throw the ball to him.

Go Bucks.

(Edit: and my apologies to Hetuck, whose daily vocabulary exercise I stole from.)

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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GrandTheftHarley's picture

"That's what Dreams are made of..."

Roger that, Navy.

And I miss committing aviation.

I am not very smart, but I recognize that I'm not very smart. --- W.W. Hayes

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getcristylove's picture

I think you meant to write that Tiger is three wins away from tying Jack’s record. The Masters win was number 15.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Ah you're right. Good catch.

awlinBrutus's picture

My wish list 2020:
Kendel Milton RB
Michael Drennen H
Deamonte Trayanum LB
Julian Fleming wr
Rakim Jarret wr
Justin Rogers OG
Darion Henry SDE
Mikhail Sherman LB
Jaheim Thomas LB
Keelee Ringo CB
Lathan Ramson S/CB
Cameron Martinez S/CB
Michael Carmody OT

that would be 21 with those that have signed.

MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS

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tampatom's picture

11 W should host a rage yoga tailgate next year, I know I would go!

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

They should have all those derelict commenters from the game day threads go hash it out in person together there. I'd pay to watch a live stream of them do drunken angry yoga. Just imagine the assortment of aggrieved old guys and poorly adjusted basement dwellers getting together for a post-game drunken angry yoga session.

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Hovenaut's picture

Oh, I'd pay good money for that...extra for the big bucket o' popcorn.

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

He's now just four wins away from tying the rcord and even though he's 42, the Golden Bear isn't ready to say his record is safe.

It's 3 now

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Bucky Buck's picture

That Woodruff jam sounds like it was stolen from the 80’s archives of Harold Faltermeyer.

Born a Badger, Raised a Buckeye

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

Vonn Miller isn't wrong, but the Broncos have spent so many draft resources in vain on quarterbacks lately that I suspect they're going to be really reluctant to do it again.

The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.

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BuckeyeLurker0509's picture

perfectly understandable, we dont know what kind of HC ryan day is or how good justin fields is

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45has2's picture

ESPN should know, it's their invitational.

Censores irrumasti.

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OSU56's picture

ESECPN=

Enjoying daily the 62-39 ttun beatdown.

 

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Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Pulling off my Scarlet and Gray glasses - there are justifications for ranking us so low.  We have lost one of the greatest coaches in college football both on the field and on the recruiting trail.  We've lost our starting QB and have TWO QBs that have little actual playing time.  We've lost a bunch of talent to the NFL and there are tons of unknowns.  Yes, Ryan Day won 3 games while Urban was out on suspension and he is doing and saying all the right things!  That still does not translate into massive success on the field, for an entire year.  Given all that - I'm not at all surprised or remotely riled by these early predictions.

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

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Steelydan54's picture

Jack v Tiger. As a Buckeye I'll always choose Jack. As a golfer and regular observer of the game, it's difficult to compare eras and records for obvious reasons (in every evolving sport except Curling, I suppose). A couple thoughts though; Tiger chasing a record Jack set while not chasing a record, but rather "just being Jack".  Jacks overall Major record of wins and seconds is jaw dropping and far surpasses Tigers. Tiger has won approximately 25% of tournaments he played in, also jaw dropping.  Tiger has a shot at Jacks Majors record, which is akin to the Super Bowl record in football as a measure of highest achievement, but not the ONLY measure. Jack and Tiger were great athletes, ahead of their time and changed the game. Tigers era of change was combined with equipment and course changes more than Jacks. If Tiger wins 18 or 19 majors, he will be the Major Championship Leader and is already the greatest golfer of his era. Jack is still the GREATEST OF ALL TIME, as measured by my subjective feelings, including his records, his impact on the game, his work in course development, etc, and his class and character as ambassador for the game. Tiger is already #2 in my book and deservedly so, regardless of his ultimate record. Despite his on and off course struggles, he has worked relentlessly and has regained the top tier of golf performance. Bravo Tiger and Jack will not begrudge him if he ties or wins more Majors, which is just proves why he's THE MAN. 

Steelybuck54

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Trebor40's picture

Let the games begin - After 4 we will honestly know what we have in a group of players and staff. 

I believe from that point forward tOSU will reluctantly be mentioned with a top six as a team you wish NOT to face! 

I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

ESECPN hates OSU.

Class of 2010.

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BucksHave7's picture

Give me some Gus Johnson and Joel Klatt anyday over ESPN! 

BucksHave7

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Skunk bear blood's picture

Classic Rage Yoga "zen as fuck" attitude
-100% bullshit free
-Bonus video package
-1 payment of 90USD OR 3 payments of 35USD

I think I understand where they want to go......$$$.   Zen-off

Buy the ticket take the ride.

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