Coming soon to a Shoe near you? pic.twitter.com/6VxqCssypQ
— Alex Gleitman (@alexgleitman) April 13, 2019
Just looking at Gleitman’s timing I’m hoping for a Henry boom today!
I am a Michigan booster bud....just spent $182 bucks at Wal-Mart this morning.
Think its referencing 2021 QB Kyle McCord
That’ll do nicely as well...help the momentum moving forward. Hopefully Harrison Jr won’t be far behind with his commitment with McCord in the fold.
I'm hoping it's a Henry too.
Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?
Anna booms are the best booms.
"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.
Thank you, Spooner for Part 22. I have a feeling that we will get 2 commitment today
Nothing Like Them Buckeyes #BuckeyeNation pic.twitter.com/17WLbw8mbX
— Luke Hill (@2flavorzz) April 13, 2019
I will be at Ohio State spring game today !!!#GoBucks pic.twitter.com/Y0MasB6Odo
— D Hen (@darrion_henry) April 13, 2019
Any word if Paris or Thomas traveled up as well with Henry? Those 3 generally are always together I thought.
Paris is there. Thomas is taking the ACT today.
Ohio State commits Jack Miller, Paris Johnson Jr. and Lejond Cavazos are here: pic.twitter.com/WhTzgRBrmD
— Dan Hope (@Dan_Hope) April 13, 2019
Fields of Dreams
Thanks NH, I thought I’d heard about the ACT testing unfortunately being this weekend with the spring game. Good to see Paris though. With Cavazos and Miller there as well I’m liking all our charismatic recruits there hopefully doing work with the visitors this weekend.
New Buckeyes commit Lejond Cavazos is at Ohio State today, FWIW.
— Jeremy Birmingham (@Birm) April 13, 2019
I was wondering if he would be back for this. This is great, he can work the recruits.
Any word on whether Carmody is attending or not? I've heard mixed messages on it.
Birm confirmed with Carmody himself.....who was saying otherwise?
oh boy, I forget where I saw that. It might have been Wiltfong on the BM5 and he said something like he believed he was visiting PSU this weekend but had heard that he may come to Columbus, but he didn't have confirmation of that.
It could have been something I read on Twitter though. I honestly can't remember.
Birm article with Carmody
Awesome. Thank you!
You can remove Brooks and Davis from the DB list. Follow up from the previous thread, if we can land Ringo and Clark Phillips III, the last 1 or 2 CB spots is gravy.
I really want to see us get Ransom and Morant at S. Will be interesting to see how Safety shakes out.
Not going to remove Brooks just yet bc he's one of Hafley's most recent Twitter follows and I'm not convinced his GaTech commit sticks.
Ringo is looking like Texas at the moment
The Life Of PABLO
Trey Leroux big and gets around for his size. Trade a few pounds for muscle and that kid is gonna be dangerous. Just think what he could do with a proper helmet on his head.
"Because it worked," Ryan Day says, laughing.
If he doesn’t get his weight in check he won’t be suiting up in scarlet and gray
Nicholas l Ernst
He is already a long-term project. If he pushes that time horizon out any further then I think his other options should be encouraged.
The one thing he can control right now is his body, very discouraging he isn't even maintaining it let alone improving.
Has he put on some bad weight? I haven't read that anywhere.
Yes heard it as well at a camp possibly, but he’s nearing the 360 range and the additional 30lbs has been bad weight. Has the potential as a athletic large player but has to put the work in now.
Ohio State just took a kid who was 6'8" - 360 like, two months ago. Now they're supposed to turn away a scholarship from a kid who's committed and is 6'8" - 360?
He was just balling out at The Opening less than a month ago and had some impressive box jumps for his size recently. Don't they take all your measurables there?
I don’t get the whole “balling out” comment. That’s not what I heard at all and he looked very sloppy. He needs to get down to 320
Yeah. I have to agree with you. I havent heard about the weight gain but I think he looks sloppy. If he's a take based on potential and he's taking a step back with weight gain, then that's definitely a concern.
For his size and skill level. I thought it was common knowledge he isn't a highly rated prospect. Guess not.
Yes, he's low rated and OSU took him due to him possibly having a high ceiling.
But at a point, you have to ask yourself whether you can see him shutting down B1G D ends, and hopefully, holding his own, Clemson and Bama DEs.
Typically when a kid commits he is given a workout and diet program by the team. They expect you to walk in on day one in shape and ready to be able to compete. Especially if you are considered a “project” player. If he doesn’t put in the work that is expected and he decides to basically coast through his Senior year I could see his offer pulled.
Don't listen to Freddy P. Soft
Spot on, Crusher. Ohio State football isn’t a country club where you get to relax and unwind after the grind. It is the grind and you need to grind just to get there. Aside from jumping onto a box—which Ryan Shazier did and it wouldn’t be unfair to call him a cripple right now—I haven’t seen anything that puts Leroux in the elite athlete category, which means he’ll need to come in through the door that doesn’t have “talent” painted on it but the one that says “hard work.”
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
Also, to play devil's advocate, Dawand Jones is a big athletic basketball player too.
Perhaps it depends upon which one is dropping weight and which one is gaining weight?
AE with the CB for Cameron Martinez. Anyone know if this kid is on campus.
Wow.....TeRah Edwards commits to Northwestern.
Wonder if we could pull a tommy Eichenberg and get him into the fold with a last minute offer if we still need a DT in December
I mean in recruiting anything is possible but I just have no idea what we're doing this cycle with DT recruiting.
AE outside of Henry does our staff even have a ranked board of DT targets?
And what about defensive end? I’ve never been so confused at DL recruiting since I’ve started following it
Just say you think you know more about what the tOSU DL needs this cycle than Coach Johnson. Please. You know you want to........
I have a feeling if tOSU offers, Edwards can be flipped, not like we haven't seen this routine before.
What I want is none of your damn business and I'll ask you to stay out of my affairs.
But what I want is for you to guess what movie that quote is from so you can at least post something that isn't trying to trash me :)
Im not the only one who doesn't know what the DL board looks like bc insiders don't really know or have a good handle on it either.
Ace Ventura pet detective
On a forum such as this, everything is his business, damned or otherwise, that's how it works.
Awful touchy over a bunch of teenagers deciding where to play ball.........................you seem to get overly worked up over this-relax, watch some highlights from last year, and assume the staff knows what they are doing it-I'd say Coach Johnson has earned a bit of rope from the intwebz pundits..................
I have a feeling if tOSU offers, Edwards can be flipped, not like we haven't seen this routine before.
We like to think so but the more time passes, that becomes harder because kids get to know the staff better, bond with other commits and players on the team, e.g., the 2019 OGs from Strongsville and Mentor who committed to MSU. Kids don't generally decommit from Northwestern--per 247, they had only three in the past six classes (2014-19), while Ohio State had 24 over the same period.
Great get for them. He’s a punishing individual.
That is a surprise.
Was hoping to see Groveport represented on that one.
I have to assume this is because he wants to play OG over DT.
Maybe he wants to be a lawyer (Bosa shrug)
Maybe he wants to work for ESPN.
A lot of Buckeyes work for ESPN. Just sayin'...
That's a great get for Fitz.
Or he wants a degree from one of the best academic institutions in the nation.
OSU Fan & Alum living in SEC Country
That too. I was being sarcastic. I forgot the italics.
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I don't see jiggle but I do sense it.
I hate Justin Verlander.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
I hope my comment didn't contribute to the decision to remove the picture.
Removed for violating what? Promoting a rescue buoy? You mods need to find more important things to censor besides pix of pretty girls in bikinis. You can with all the name calling.
If you’re not a fan of the rules you’re always free to peruse a different site for your OSU fan material.
Or you can follow them while you’re here, seems like common sense.
Yeah, okay, boss.
I would rather stay and see ta-ta's while I am at it.
USC insider drops the CB for LV Bunkley-Shelton to OSU. Looking like west coast not off limits for this class.
Wonder if he would be a take with Jarrett still out there?
Last I had heard they were not ready to take him.
That just shows how strong WR recruiting is right now!
Any news on the Cameron Martinez CB
Nothing specific. Heard a while ago that OSU is really pushing and Michigan may be third. Don't think he has a set plan or timeline in place yet though.
Kinda knew this was coming.
For a second year in a row #Nebraska lands its top offensive line target as @247Sports No. 3 OT Turner Corcoran follow All-American Bryce Benhart from the 2019 cycle. Commit number three for the #Huskers in 2020 is a huge one in Corcoran: https://t.co/gcddH9g7S4 https://t.co/HneoJyj4C5
— Steve Wiltfong (@SWiltfong247) April 13, 2019
I was at the Spring Game today and saw Paris, Darrion, Lejond, and Jack Miller enjoying the show on the field. Having Eddie George on hand, along with surprise appearances (to me anyway) by Ted Ginn Jr and Ezekiel Elliott, can’t hurt with recruiting either.
(Note: I saw some 2021 guys too, but I’m just trying to honor the topic for this thread.)
When they had camera on Day for big screen before game, he was talking to Darrion which was nice to see.
Another upset today as WR Devell Washington commits to WVU. Thought he'd end up at Sparty or Purdue.
Maybe he isn’t a take for them right now. I don’t know, but there seem to be a number of talented WR in tsun right now.
AE with the CB for Brian Branch to Oklahoma.
Interesting. I wonder how confident he, or the OSU Staff is that we land 2 out of Ransom, Morant, or Paige at Safety. I also seem to recall reading that we were looking at Burger on defense instead of offense. I haven't heard his name in a long, long time though.
I didn't hear he's committing to them or anything like that, but things have quieted down on the OSU side and I know Grinch was in love with him.
Bummed at the lack of booms today. Was hoping for at least 2.
With all the new coaches, I would expect recruiting to drag well into the fall.
Who says there were lack of commits? Maybe just have been made public yet.
But me being the big baby that I am...I need them public to celebrate lol
I think typically the official commits don't come until the end of the visits, even when the insiders know they like to hold off any announcements until then as well
I haven't seen anyone confirm that carmody made it.
anyone seen anything?
He was definitely there
3rd photo in the link
thanks for the link!
Has anyone confirmed if Rosemy made the trip? I saw an OL from Aquinas was there today but dont recall seeing anything on Marcus.
I think he had been going back and forth as to whether it would be this weekend or next. Believe I heard it was going to be next weekend for him but I could be wrong.
Not sure I saw anyone mention that OH 2020 WR Kalil Branham decommited from Michigan this evening. Branham is a 4* WR and the 352nd ranked player in the composite (6th in OH) and 266th ranked player in the 247 rankings (4th in OH.)
Trending to Kentucky but he's a fairly highly ranked player in OH this cycle and a Columbus native so worth keeping an eye on. Given the level the Buckeye staff is recruiting at with WRs this cycle I doubt he would be a take at this juncture.
He doesn't have an osu offer.
as a matter of fact, he doesn't have many good offers at all.
Removed DT Cole Brevard from the board. Committed to PSU today.
Nothing new information-wise, but this is just a phenomenal edit. One of the best I've seen. Go Bucks! Go Ohio!
— Buckeye Edits (@BuckeyeEdits15) April 13, 2019
I know for a fact that Kalil Branham, a top 5 recruit in Ohio has decommitted from the school up north. At this point it looks as if he's looking at SEC schools at the moment. I know the family hasn't had a lot of love for the Buckeyes...I just wonder with a guy like Al Washington on staff and a position coach like Brian Hartline on staff, there might be a prospect for change...the kid is talented.
It appears that it was TTUN that cooled on him, he committed prior to Gattis coming in and looking as they weren’t sold on him. The wr class is deep this year and I think we’re on much higher kids at the moment. If we’re talking tiers Branham would be 3rd tier I don’t believe we ever offered him. His film looks like he’s a step or two slow than some of the other top kids. Our wr recruiting is so high that we’re holding off on the 4 star Bunkley out of CA at the moment.
Its looking like he will be a Kentucky commit shortly. May work much better for him in all honesty
With Clemson likely adding Bresee soon, do we have any chance of flipping Tre Williams? With Bresee they have 3 of the top 4 2020 247 DT’s.
i was hoping for a boom from a 2020 this weekend thats not gonna happen for a while im guessing
This is will be short but Jt was not short
Doesn’t count? Being negative is more important than paying attention to the facts of the situation apparently. Lol.
I mean...technically he committed on Friday which is a week day, so we didn't get a commit on the weekend and he is speaking factual :)
There were hints of a boom post-Cavazos. Didn't happen ... yet.
It may have happened behind the scenes and by sounds of things was a 2021 class target..still a lot of time. Spooner had mentioned it being possibly McCord, perhaps him and Harrison are planning something together. Harrison appears to be ready at any moment to bring his talents to Cbus
I think it was the 2021 Ohio kid Carrico that we offered this weekend.
Nevada gave the ==== on Carrico
Does he give indication on the boards when things change? I ask because it was mentioned that he had given the ==== on Jarrett a while back. And for whatever reason, Jarrett seems to be trending elsewhere.
Givler talked with Rakim yesterday at a DC event. Said he will be back but prob not before middle of May. Also hasn't brought his mom on the visits he has taken. But she will be on the official visits since she's a huge part of the decision process and said he wants to decide by end of summer.
Thanks Spooner. I had wondered if his mom was with him on the visits to all those SEC schools.
Appreciate the intel.
Sounds to me a Clemson offer could be very dangerous to Marvin Jr. tho.
Wouldn't be so sure if his comments about this last visit are genuine. Per Marvin, we're ahead of everyone else by a very large margin.
TN 4* DE Tyler Barron visiting today
Huge visit, IMO. His name popped up for us out of nowhere after the offer, but can definitely see him in this class and I really like him as a player.
Edit: Side note, curious that Alford was the one who offered him--don't remember him owning Tennessee for the staff but could be a new territory for him (or I could just be mis-remembering)
BK said he's not at the top of the list.
What are the DE prospect rankings for our staff? Not counting Darrion tho because he will likely end up at the 3tech.
DE is all over the place this year.
Yeah, Craig, Aaron Lewis or Bingley-Jones maybe.
We have a list? It's mysterious, that's for sure.
Mind you, I am less worried about our D-line than most positions, but I don't want it to become like the cornerbacks were last cycle - puts too much pressure on the next year.
Desmond Evans is a guy i would love to have, but I'm not sure if we are even recruiting him. Haven't heard much news about him either. UNC, NC ST, and South Carolina are the schools listed as "warm". Surprised Clemson hasn't swooped him up already. He's pretty much the prototypical 4-3 DE at 6'6 240.
The rumor last week was that Clemson told 5* DE Reggie Grimes they didn't have room for him right now. They took a big class last year and have 2 DT committed with Bresee about to join them and they are the heavy favorites for 5* DE's Jordan Burch and Myles Murphy. That will likely be their group of 5 at DL this year. Just recruiting at an insane level that they are waving other 5* players away.
Not to mention Damonte Capeheart and Tre Williams. Both high 4 stars
Wiltfong posted today Scar has a small lead for Burch
I tried bum juice once, it was bitterly disappointing.
Grimes is a Bama legacy, so I wouldn't count them out.
Clemson is the new Bama and I dont see it slowing down anytime soon. No ome om the ACC can compete with them. Its literally going to take Clemson pulling a Clemson before they stop
Here's the worst part . . . even if they were to slip up against a Syracuse, Florida State or some other lackluster ACC school.
The committee will give them the benefit of the doubt. They will be the first 1 loss school in. Aside from a complete collapse, sanctions (don't see that happening as no one seemed to care about players being suspended for PPD's) or something else crazy they basically have a cake walk to the playoff for the next 5 years.
Truth hurts but it's truth.
My apologies. Back to the recruit talk.
The same can be said for Ohio State...just can’t slip up by 30 or 40 to an unranked team. Also can’t lose to the wrong team (MSU in 2015) preventing a trip Indy for a B1G champ.
You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton
At this point, it appears we can't afford to lose to any team.
PSU loss on the road on a fluke blocked FG...still get in (and that's debatable that the Buckeyes should've even been in). That's the type of loss that teams aren't penalized for by the committee. That's the type of loss that the Clemsons and Alabamas usually suffer. I'd be willing to bet that if Clemson went on the road to a middle of the road ACC team and lost by 40, they would not get in, assuming there are 4 other teams with equal or better resumes.
True om all parts, but need to win championships if/when they hit the playoffs
11warriors but for Clemson
Ryan Day the goat....and yes I pee on ttun all the time
Interview with Jarrett
Couple of quotes that standout:
"somehow there's been a spark of interest there for me recently" - talking about interest in tOSU.
"when you think of the big ten you don't always think about receivers like me"
Developing a sense of modesty might go a long way with this kid. After reading that makes me want to land Rosemy more. Seems like more of a cultural fit for the WR room than Jarrett
I get there whole culture thing but I love cocky players. It's not too say he's not a team player though but I highly doubt he's selfless like Dixon and Mclaurin.
This^^^ I love when players have some cockiness and swagger to them. Everyone doesn't have to be bland
I mean, we did have a receiver with the handle "cantguardmike". seems pretty arrogant right? seemed to do well at OSU and seems to be doing ok in the NFL?
also not so sure that CC, Galloway or Santonio just to name a few were all humble purveyors either.
Idk but give me McLaurin, Campbell, and Dixon who are cocky and confident but not overly outspoken about it. You know the guys who are cocky yet selfless. That's the culture now.
you can be cocky and selfless hashtag cantguardmike
Man, I miss that dude being a Buckeye.
can you imagine what could have been done with him in a non-urban offense predicated on pushing the ball down the field in the air? stats wise that is.
I can't say I understand the "somehow there's been a spark of interest there for me recently" quote.
Yea that's the quote I want more clarity on
That's straight out of SEC coaches' mouths....
"you don't want to play in the big10, they don't know what to do with WRs like you.
"We know just what to do with you, son"
/coach sticks syringe in his delt
Yep. Michael Thomas hasn't done much. Good point.
He's just reiterating what some one is selling him.
"somehow there's been a spark of interest there for me recently" - Hartline/ Day have been blowing him up.
"when you think of the big ten you don't always think about receivers like me" could be a positive "OSU selling him on how they view his tape" or a negative (from Dabo likely) about how the B10 lacks quality receivers/ QBs (obviously not true.) Could see Fleming hearing the same stuff.
The offseason is the longest season.
The kid is a known game player. I think those are real answers from him and not someone else's sell job. JMO of course.
Exactly. I'm guessing that Day, Hartline, and Co. have a pretty good handle on his personality and know not to react to every post or comment that he makes. Big-time talent with a big personality to match. I think his recruitment and Bunkley-Shelton's are related; if the games with Jarrett are just too much, or he just resists committing, we'll invest more in our recruitment of Bunkley-Shelton.
Any which way you slice it, 2020 recruiting is simply not going well. :(
Top 6 class. Top 4 in average star ranking. All without a single win from Coach Day as a full time head coach.
Do you struggle with math?
More than one school can have a great 2020 cycle. The Buckeyes are on pace for a top 5 class right now.
I think he's still mad the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor
Can we start a separate recruiting thread where the people who need to post their irrational sky is falling crap can post it? It gets old seeing them post that crap in here while adding nothing of value.
Couldn't agree more. It's almost like a scavenger hunt trying to find newsworthy posts.
It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.
Nothing of value here.
Right there with you, started one for anyone wanting to talk about their frustrations with Clemson on a different thread. Love seeing 22 new posts only to find 2-3 of anything worthwhile. Hopefully this helps streamline things.
Thank you Spooner and NH and many others that provide quality info for us that don’t have the knowledge of some of the recruiting sites.
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
Sounds like Paris Johnson will be visiting Georgia this weekend.
Seriously? Where did you hear this?
on 247 Wiltfong posted an article about another 5 star visiting Georgia with Paris’ picture as the header.
Their spring game is Saturday too and I’ve seen a lot of big names are heading there. Pretty certain I saw Ringo and a few others.
If Ann Arbor is a whore, what's Harbaugh for going back to her?
I see you also failed to mention Steve thinks Paris ends up a Buckeye.
Not relevant to the fact that he is apparently visiting UGA again this weekend.
OSU fans want him to stop taking visits. They will freak out until he does so
Correct. Paris is taking an Official Visit to UGA but the experts still believe he is going to be a Buckeye.
So this is his OV? If so, I actually view that as generally positive. I would be more worried about him taking a Georgia OV in the Fall.
Yep. And your point about it being a positive with him taking it this early is shared.
Well PJjr will official to Georgia this weekend. Still think hes a Buckeye though. Glad hes using the OV early but I think his visit here last weekend helps us win this one in the end
— Buckeyes Crootin' (@BuckeyesCrootin) April 16, 2019
Didn’t Steve also believe Carmen was heading to Ohio State at this same time in his recruitment as well, I sure hope Paris stays with Ohio State but I believe this will be his 3rd visit to Georgia.
Agree. And with OL recruiting whisperer Sam Pittman down there, I wouldn't be completely surprised if they flip him.
Anyone heard anything about Carmody’s visit last weekend, seems things have been unusually quiet after the spring game.
Birm on Lettermen Live today: "I feel very confident that Julian Fleming is going to end up at Ohio State."
Does anybody know if Fleming has said when he wants to commit? The doom and gloom of this class is drastically over played but having a guy like him to team up with Lejond and start recruiting guys would give us a lot of momentum
That would be fricking huge. He's going to be similar to Wilson - a guy who can make plays as a freshman. Would love Olave, Wilson, and Fleming all in the rotation in 2020.
Landing Fleming would give us two receivers that are in the 6'3" 210-215lbs range. That's unreal WR recruiting if we land him.
Don't forget JSN who measured at 6-1 194 at the opening regional last month.
Birm's damn good when he makes a pick with confidence like that. That's extremely encouraging and exciting news.
Bill Greene CB'd Sherman to Georgia. Seems like they lost all momentum with him as soon as Urban left. Not sure he's even visited lately.
Didn't want him anyways, bad fit
(6'3" 235 is probably a better fit as a stand up DE in a 3-4 not a bad choice by him)
Thats if Sherman doesn't bulk up. We have two possible starting LBs this year that are 6'3" 245lbs (Harrison and Browning)
Teradja Mitchell is right about that size as well. Incoming Tommy E. also. 6'3" 240 IIRC.
I'm glad we are getting big linebackers that can still run. It's kind of what you need if you're running a 4-2-5 bullet hybrid defense.
Spot on take Buckslan.
at this point f' it. if we can get them let them go to a team that Bama will have to face before the playoffs.
Givler did say Urban was personally recruting the St Johns trio hard. Which is another reason why things have fallen off between all 3.
Might be a case again where new staff has new opinions different board than previous staff members.
If no Sherman than a guy like Mitchell Melton would be the best possible scenario IMO. Big LB that can run or possibly edge rush. Both offer versatility.
It's interesting that we haven't seen about Day and Washington going to visit Sherman. Maybe they have and I just missed it.
Yeah, he was all in on Meyer. Not sure if he just did not click with the staff as they stand now or what, but it stings quite a bit. Georgia is insane at recruiting right now. Seems like it is Alabama, Georgia and Clemson as the top dogs. Not that OSU sucks, but those three teams are just going crazy right now. Two of them make some sense at least as to why.
You could say we are the favorite for Michael Carmody, Julian Flemming, Darrion Henry, Marcus Rosemy, Henry Gray, and Clark Phillips which would put us at 11 top 150 players. Georgia currently has 3 guys in the top 150 and only 5 commits. You have to ignore facts to say those three are squarely ahead of us.
OSU has recruited as well as anyone over the past 3 years. We had 2 of the best per recruit classes in history in 16/17.
It's natural to see what others are doing and freak out. Our average per player is above .92, which is really good. Our class is better than Bama's on player by player comparison.
When OSU's recruiting actually slips up i'll worry a bit. There is nothing to indicate it has or will in the near future
Welp everything is doomed, recruiting is bad and Ryan day and his assistants are bad
WRONG THREAD BRO!!!
Put in a crystal ball for Carmody to Ohio State. I think PSU is third at best right now.
When do you think he’ll commit? And who is second in this battle?
Haven’t heard anything on a timeline but don’t think it’ll go to signing day or anything crazy long like that. Think it’s VT.
Article on TOS has him taking his officials in June/July and making his decision before the season starts.
And on fourth and one... would you believe?
Any idea when he is looking to commit? And listing PSU third makes me think he’s definitely all ours. That was probably a nice signal from you I’m guessing.
Damn that's a bit of a surprise they're running 3rd. Carmody and Paris would be ideal bookends
Is it me, or does Carmody feel like Doug Nester all over again?
Ummm, in what way?
Probably should have elaborated. Coal country boy with interest in us, PSU, and Va Tech.
Did Toafili make his visit for the spring game? I haven't seen anything on him.
Yes he was there. That’s all I saw
He was there but there haven't been any updates post visit. Sometimes it takes a couple of days so hopefully we hear something about it.
Mekhail Sherman official visit to Cbus next weekend
Hopefully we can swing back the momentum from uga
Braxton Miller, SPIN MOVE!!!
Great news! Hopefully Washington and Mattison can swing things back in our favor and Coach Day can work some of that Urban ‘Closer’ magic.
As previously mentioned in this thread, I think I would rather see him take his OV in the fall. Happy that he'll finally be back on campus though.
hes taking his georgia official for g day
Nice! Seems like his first visit in the Day era. Glad that they'll get a shot to swing his recruitment.
AE I might have asked this before but did you ever hear about Bijon Robinson visiting this week?
Nvm Wiltfong said its been moved to June
5* Justin Flowe from CA said on Instagram that he'll be taking an official visit to tOSU in June with Gee Scott.
He then proceeds to ask his friend if Urban Meyer is still the head coach or not, and then attempts to remember the LB coach at tOSU that he talks with on a weekly basis.
Haha that’s hilarious. I know we just made his top 12 (whatever) but i would say his interest in Ohio state isn’t all that high lol.
Once we start kicking ass again on the field recruiting will ramp up again. Day is just an unknown right now. Meyer was a legend here.
OSU offered Rickey Hyatt, apparently.
Blessed to have received my 21st D1 offer from The Ohio State University!!! pic.twitter.com/tibVzEhzc3
— Rickey Hyatt Jr. (@RickeyHyatt) April 17, 2019
Just read the Hurry Up so this post is late I guess.
Before some start moaning and groaning about the offer, BG did say he's getting bumped up to 4* and said he's a perfect fit for bullet.
Bank also said he expects him to commit sooner than later. Said this was the offer he really wanted. Gave him a pretty glowing reivew, compared him to Brendon White.
He has to see all the other names swirling around in secondary recruiting so I don't think it would be a shock if he commits quickly to lock it down before others beat him to the spot.
I wonder if we would take a second Bullet guy like a Kourt Williams, who seems to be very high on OSU.
I would say we need a true FS in this class, but I'm still convinced Lejond ends up an All American safety. I think the guys game just screams Malik Hooker to me. I personally want to add 3 more CBs plus Hyatt Jr. and call it a day in the secondary.
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
Bullet seems ambiguous enough that a HS kid who projects as "bullet" is just as likely to wind up at safety or LB or even gaining 30 pounds and being a DE. Doesn't seem like they should hold back on stud athletes who may project in different roles.
Hyatt’s video is very impressive. I’d be thrilled with him.
Westerville South-gotta think think this is just a matter of time for the boom.
Studrawa gets a lot of guff at times, but at least one parent is pretty impressed with the guy. This is from Letterman Row regarding Reece Atteberry:
“What that man does on a daily basis for his offensive line crew, in both personal lives and practice film break down, etc. — he has zero time for much else, let alone sleep,” Mark Atteberry said. “He was very, very personal. He got to get closer to us, and we are as real as they come with character and honesty. So, the mutual respect was on point.”
Maybe no longer having Urban made him realize he isn't safe going forward. He seems to be doing a much better job this cycle, so hopefully he keeps it up
Maybe he is doing the same things he has always done, but idiots who have no clue what is going on in the WHAC need scapegoats for their delusions.
It wasn't just casual fans though, it was recruiting guys who do have sources in the WHAC.
True. But again, think the recruitment guys had one perspective, and the players being developed had a different perspective, because they were looking at different things. Two possible viewpoints: 1) If you want to coach a position group in college football, you need to recruit at an elite level. 2) if you are really good at coaching and developing players, other people on staff can pick up the slack on recruiting.
I don't know that either one is right, but on this thread - which is just recruitment - people have taken the position that Stud is butt, because he isn't charming the 17 year olds in their living rooms. And in the meanwhile, we have fielded some really good lines, and guys have improved massively from Y1 to Y3.
Well, if tOSU continues signing OL like NPF,Wyatt Davis,Josh Meyers, Harry Miller, Enokk Vimahi, and getting verbals from guys like Johnson and Wypler, maybe those people w/ "sources' should ask themselves if they are more concerned w/ actual talent acquisition-the best in the history of the program, according to starhanderouters or being little TMZ gossip queens.
Again he was not directly responsible for Wypler (Schiano) Paris (Urban) NPF (Schiano) Wyatt (Urban) or Miller (Day).
And a huge bone of contention amongst fans and insiders alike is the fact he's lost 5 in state OL that we offered and were takes. The thinking there is that we shouldn't be losing 5 in state OL over a decade let alone over a 2 year period. Not even Warriner, who beat him for Keegan, or Walrus Bollman (didn't offer Decker bc he was too tall) accomplished such a feat.
Insiders have sources inside the WHAC they rely on for information. You really think they'd jeopardize their career bc of some vendetta? Or is it possible their posts about Stud actually come from those sources as well as the recruits and their families?
Just because Stud wasn’t the lead recruiter on the guys you listed doesn’t mean he did something wrong. Other coaches had relationships and Urban insisted on taking the lead in some recruitments regardless of position. Additionally, the in state kids were all late offers that Urban was willing to take a risk on.
So these 5 in state OL we lost on we're late offers in your opinion?
- Nick Samac (2019 class) was offered in June 2019
- JD Duplain (2019 class) was offered in October 2019
- Nolan Rumler (2019 class) was offered May of 2017
- Jack Carman (2018 class) was offered December 2015
- Zeke Correll (2019 class) was offered May 2017
Lets us also not forget Paris Johnson was committed for awhile and took about 20 visits to campus. When Urban retired Paris spoke with an insider and informed he need to think about things bc he had NO relationship with the OL coach. In fact said coach didn't even have said recruits or his mom's phone #. So in your mind that's not doing anything wrong since its listed as part of the job description?
Edit: I realize Rumler was raised in a scUM environment but they didn't have an OL coach for a little while which gave us a window of opportunity according to BG who would know since he's known the family for a long time.
Urban’s Approach was to recruit national first and when he came back to some of those kids it was just to late. Paris was urbans recruit but Studs fault cause he’s looking around? Makes no sense. Carmen wanted to go out of state. We got NPF instead. Not awful in the end. Rumbler was UM from the start sorry if BG says differently
So 2 years in advance is too late? You do realize even offering even in October is not too late right? Even a month in the recruting world is an eternity. Again BG is very close to the Duplain family like incredibly close. Alford was not the one who messed that up. Duplain even visited against the wishes of MSU.
Yes to a degree it is his fault with Paris. If a kid visits your campus 20ish times and you don't develop a relationship or make an effort to do so that's your fault lol. And no offense but I'm gonna take BG's info over your smoking hot takes any day of the week bc he's credible and I have no idea who you are.
Ok no problem
Once Samac committed to Sparty, that ship sailed. He was solid from the time he committed. Mentor emphasizes making your commitment and sticking to it, but the HC told Nick he wouldn't hold it against him if he wanted to flip to OSU since it was the home school. He never waivered. He just felt more comfortable at MSU and committed before OSU even offered.
Source: Head coach is my uncle
The last 3 were never coming to OSU
Waaaaaaaaqaaaah!!!!!!!!!! We're recruiting 2 star OL who are gonna suck!!!!! Save us!!!!!!!!!
The best run of OL talent-according to the starhanderouters-in tOSU history-has been acquired under OL Coach Studrawa's watch. If that isn't getting it done, I don't what is. If Wyatt Davis or Josh Myers or NPF were creeped out by the idea of playing for Coach Stud for 3 or 4 years guess what-they would have signed elsewhere. The dude is getting it done. Now back to your regularly scheduled recruiting neuroticism.
It was done on Urban Meyer's watch.
Some have an allergy to facts on here Hanawi. In one ear out the other
hoping they keep it up so we can give them the Stu and Buck68 treatment
What facts-Urban is gone so real talent acquistion for the program is going to go in the crapper? That's not "facts", just neurotic-and false-handwringing.
Hey Hanawi can you do me a favor?
Can you tell the entity where in either of our facts-based posts did either of us say recruiting was going in the crapper? Did we both write that with invisible ink?
Edit: we also need to find the article where Paris has re-upped his commitment and is not visiting other school like UGA this weekend. We may have missed that.
Edit2: also remind me next time we post that we both need to start actually using context clues in our posts like we always talked about
They're called context clues-apparently you slept through jr. high ELA.......................
Luke Wypler and Paris Johnson re-upped. So far , so good.
Not to mention Lejond.
Think all of the complaints about him have centered on recruitment, but people are underselling his player development which is strong.
Wasn't just recruiting. Wilson was assigned to help him coach OL. With Urban gone maybe that's not the case anymore idk.
I do know kids are also mentioning Coach Miscuda who's an assistant OL so he may have taken the place of Wilson in helping coach OL.
meh. The line has been pretty good. Certainly not a weak link on the team. And we have had a pretty decent talent pipeline on OL recruiting, despite some losses.
At some level, I really don't care what the division of labor is. I care about the performance, and until the OL becomes a problem for the team, I'm not going to spend a ton of energy calling for the coach's head.
I'm with ya I just think it's funny people give him credit for OL performance yet disregard Wilson's work with the same unit.
Kind of like the same people that disregard Stud when it comes to landing some top OL commitments from the 2017-2020 classes? Saying he plays next to no part in landing a bunch of highly rated recruits?
He receives a lot of unfair criticism, and he's become the public enemy #1 after Bill Davis left the staff. I feel like people should be reminded he coached 2 Rimington award winners and another all American.
why Bring facts into this at this point? Maybe an insider will post this and then the perspective will change for some
He's done well this year and I haven't been on his case. I'd love for him to make me eat crow. But before this year I know of at least 2 insiders who would tell you his performance wasn't good at all. Again they talk to the recruits and their families and they have sources inside the WHAC. They are not making this stuff up about his recruiting. If they did they would burn lots of bridges.
Ive said in the past I have no problems with his coaching but I still believe Coach Wilson deserves some credit. Guy was a former OL coach before he went to Indiana where he got OL drafted high.....from Indiana
Edit: hey shadow the facts he brought were not the facts we were arguing about btw. He also actually posted facts so...
I don't yet have reason to question the coaches Day retained, or his new hires. Stud gives me pause but I'm not ready to cry foul yet. Urban did give me ample reason to question. Stud is on bitchwatch.
BK gives the following players the following %s to committing to OSU in today’s ask Kurelic section:
Kendall Milton: 50%
Bijan Robinson: 30%
Paris Johnson: 80%
Darrion Henry: 80%
Mekhail Sherman: 50%
Henry Gray: 65%
Elias Ricks: 35%
Clark Philips: 50%
Lathan Ransom: 45%
Also said Paris Johnson will visit Georgia, LSU and Ohio State on officials in the next two months and will make a decision in June or July as to what he is going to do.
Classic BK: "Here's what I think, but it could also be the opposite. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's a 50-50 shot."
in fairness, some kids are 55/45
I always read his percentages as follows:
>80%..we're getting him.
> 50%...we currently lead
= 50%...not sure, but the recruit is taking our calls. We're in it..but we aren't leading.
> 50%... we currently trail and it is probably a reach that the kid picks OSU.
Surprised to see Rosemy only at 45%. IMO, he seems like a 75% chance he ends up here.
Ditto. I had thought so too but things can change quickly in recruiting, as we all know.
Rosemy's 45% could relate to the pecking order of the WR board.
Notice he has Jarrett at 55% and Fleming at 50%. Rumor is we're only taking 2 more, maybe he thinks if we get Jarrett and Fleming, Rosemy is no longer take.
I'd really love to see the formula he uses to come up with these mythological %'s
Classic BK: "Here's what I think, but it could also be the opposite. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's a 50-50 shot."
I'd really love to see the formula he uses to come up with these mythological %'s
BK's predictions are so wishy-washy, they cover any outcome. Also, his predictions are ridiculously precise, like he thinks he's doing science.
(Would people be happier if he wrote "OSU near lock - Strong OSU lean - OSU lean - Tossup" instead of "80% - 65% - 55% - 50%"? He just seems to be trying to convey the relative likelihood these guys pick Ohio State. Not sure what the problem is.)
Lmao I don't think he knows what going out on a limb means. I could also "go out on a limb" and says its 50-50 we land every kid we offer.
Just agreeing with Cincy
Well, he's better than Tom Loy's 100%'s.
#OhioState has offered Orem (UT) four-star linebacker Noah Sewell https://t.co/RuQpmBVowo pic.twitter.com/oYn8JZht4s
— Blair Angulo (@bangulo) April 17, 2019
Love the offer but he's listed at 6-2 266. Guessing this would be DL and not LB. Gonna list as an ATH on the big board.
Noticed that too. Could he really be playing LB at 266 now? Or I wonder if that listed weight is wrong.
It's right, he's a thumper.
I just watched the videos. He's fast for that size as well. Crazy.
At the national combine in January he checked in at 256. He also plays QB in hs. Moves really well for his size. At his current weight top end speed could potentially be an issue if he plays LB. Like spooner said he may be better suited at DE, but imo he’s the kind of guy you take and worry about where to play him later.
emotionally exhausted and morally bankrupt
He could be a stud LB if he dropped 20 pounds. Or could be a stud 3 tech if he got up to 280ish.
Brian Dohn said he's close to CB Carmody to tOSU. From a regional standpoint this would be the CB to watch for.
Article from Birm on Kendall Milton.
BG said he feels good about where we sit with Kendall. But it's been interesting to follow his and Bijon's recruitments thus far. At the start we had more momentum with Milton then it shifted to Robinson and now seems like it's back to Miton again.
Who are we competing with for Bijan? UCLA can't be a realistic school for him
Arizona, local and they hired Demarco Murray as their RB coach. Somehow is a legitimate option.
Darnay Holmes says take your realism and shove it right up the pooper
Spartan he has family in LA that's he real close with according to Wiltfong. But Steve did say he likes the fit between us and Bijon. Of course it all depends on when he visits. And Urbansjacket is correct as I think Steve and Biggins both said Arizona is a dark horse bc of Murray being the coach.
I wouldn't pick it because of future career options, but it's a guaranteed starting job at one of the most beautiful campuses in the country. And the girls aren't ugly there.
Yeah the women at both schools are pretty top notch and the difference in campuses between UCLA and USC is staggering.
DL Aaron Lewis to WVU. Removing from big board.
I'm not sure how interested we were in Lewis but some of these early commits we ARE interested in may come back into play if we do well this season. I'm sure that some opposing coaches and probably trusted advisors are telling players we are recruiting to take a wait and see approach to us because of our new regime.
The DL board seems to be a bit of a mystery right now. Haven't been any recruits that insiders say are at the top of the board besides Henry and Bresee. Maybe it's a numbers thing with the current roster?
I was talking about more than just the DL but yes, where we are with DL recruiting is a mystery to me too. Henry seems to be a good bet but Breese not. Beyond that I don't see much clarity and numbers is a prime reason. I was thinking only one DE this year but as many as 3 DTs. DT is what I question but it is way early and all will become clear in time. I'm going with my BK 50% chance on that.
Today's recruiting article from Birm:
- "Day’s personal involvement with Carmody is worth noting as well, since it was his influence that turned the tide on the recruitment of Harry Miller, Enokk Vimahi and Dawand Jones in the previous cycle."
- On Rickey Hyatt "Despite his current 3-star status, I expect that you’ll see the 6-foot-2, 190-pound Hyatt receive a rating bump in the near future that will push him over the 4-star threshold."
- newly offered Noah Sewell working with parents on setting up a visit
- NJ S Jordan Morant visiting next Monday - last visit on tour of ND and scUM before us
For some reason I never built the habit of going to Lettermen Row until this month, but have been going every day now - recommend it to folks who haven't been reading it. Birm does a great job.
Whatever happen to NY kids Cullen Coleman and William Moran being guys Ohio State was looking at? I havnt heard anything about them in months. Seen they have both been offered.
Forget who said it but Mohan will be back on campus soon. Nothing has materialized with Coleman.
Think it was Gleitman re Mohan. Alex thinks he’s a legit option for us
Yeah you're right it was Alex. He knows the NY kids really well so he'd be the one to follow on Mohan.
Mohan has been getting a lot of CBs to Michigan lately FWIW.
Per Wiltfong, Fleming has his best relationship with Hartline and they FaceTime daily
The world is yours
This makes me happy! :)
And yet when I try FaceTiming coach Hartline, he blocks my number...
Coach Hartline doesn’t have time for a 3-star face...
I’m just glad you aren’t trying to FaceTime Fleming.
Recommend listening to the Notorious B1G pod where they have Fleming on. Kid has a really great head on his shoulders. After Paris, he is priority 1b (for me at least) in this class. Love having JSN and Gee already in, but Fleming is really special.
He also said that his best coach relationship is with Hardline. Hearing that, I can see why Birm is as confident as he is that Fleming will be a Buckeye.
that's not per Wiltfong, that's per Fleming directly on the Notorious B1G podcast
Is somebody willing to share the two most recent VIP-restricted CBs that have come in for Carmody? The ones from Wiltfong and Dohn? (Based on %, I’m thinking Dohn’s is for OSU.)
WIltfong went foggy and Dohn put one in for us
Didn't see Wiltfong's on the list but Dohn did CB Carmody to us yes.