Skull Session: Nick Bosa Was “Super Depressed” About Leaving Ohio State, Potential One-and-Done Buckeye Football Players, and Ohio State Hoops National Championship Odds

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

I think the Bosa thing stung pretty hard but mainly because everyone saw him as the penultimate buckeye, the guy that was going to anchor the defense for the whole year, he just had an unlucky break. At the end of the day I really hope he’s just remembered as a helluva good example of what it means to be a buckeye because he’s been a class act through the process 

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I was one of those who was hard on Bosa; I mean, I felt as if I understood why he wasn’t going to play but I felt that as a captain, he was being selfish for leaving town and abandoning his teammates. The impact he had as a leader was profound and leaving the same week we lost to Purdue seemed more than coincidental. But I slowly came to understand that he was grieving over the loss of his season—as were many of us—and he needed to deal with it in his own way, which he chose to do privately when so many of Buckeye fans wanted him to share his grief with us. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

And I think that's one thing to remember, I mean we could only go by what the coaching staff said, and according to them they weren't even sure that he'd be back in time for the Michigan game, and if he was, how high would his risk of re-injury be? I just think at the end of the day we owe him, and his family honestly, the respect to send him off with an applause and thank him for his time at Ohio State.

I don't believe, however, that you were wrong in how you felt about it, when you lose not just your best player, but the best player in College football, there's no easy way to handle it, so I get it.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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SoulPatrol32's picture

Pace probably could have gone to the NFL straight out of high school and made it work out but man I’m glad I got to witness him at OSU. He is the most dominant player I have ever seen play the game of football.

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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SoulPatrol32's picture

I'm a parrot short of being a pirate.

Your cat would eat it anyway. I’m sure you are the one that uploaded this during your pirate fantasy yesterday. I feel bad for your cat. 

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

That is effin’ hysterical. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Invictus Buck's picture

Who downvoted this? How could you?
 

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SoulPatrol32's picture

Probably Kevin because he knows PETA will be paying a visit to his residence later. 

Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted. 

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Buctor's picture

Mr Bosa will do just fine in his pro career!  And any angst can be leveled on his opponents!!  If as successful as expected, all Buckeyes will claim him as one of their own!!!

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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Dillon G's picture

He isn't called Tragic Johnson for nothing.
 

#walkaway

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awlinBrutus's picture

Wow LeBron killed the Lakers,lol. Lebron is now just going to fade away, ?
How's that trade looking now Boston fans lol?I would say Cleveland got the better end of the deal.Did they hold onto the top 10 pick they got in that deal? If so, they should have 2 top picks this year, right? Fucking Lebron should still be in Cleveland.all this is bullshit,Lebron didn't need LA. He's a transcendent star, he could play in Minnesota and still be a star. The problem with Lebron I think, gets to caught up in the GOAT conversations. He bought in to his own hype and it bit him in the ass.

MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS

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acBuckeye's picture

I maintain if Kyrie had stayed, Lebron would've stayed and the Cavs would still dominate the East. Paul George also would've come on board.

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bucknut1994's picture

Kyrie left because he didn't like playing with Lebron?

#94Ways

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Buctor's picture

My impression (not sure from where) was that Kyrie did not want to be Robin, he wanted to be Batman too.

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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Triv's picture

Kyrie has all but said as much, there's no way Kyrie was staying even if we didn't trade him. 

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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PRO8's picture

As Forest would say mama says "Stupid is as stupid does" after all the earth is flat.

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awlinBrutus's picture

And recently apologized to Lebron as he didn't know what Lebron goes through being the leader. Kyrie now knows he would have been better off staying in Cleveland with Lebron.

MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS

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Triv's picture

The pick the Cavs got from Boston was used in 2018 to draft Sexton. The Cavs have their own (likely top 3) pick and the Rockets first round picks in 2019

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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Dillon G's picture

OWhat does LeBron have to do with Jim Rome calling Ervin “Tragic” due to his lifestyle choices leading to contracting HIV? He has called him that not as long as calling Jim Everit Chris.

Sending Silk away was dumb, and I think tragic fits this too.

#walkaway

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ToTheHouse's picture

Silk steps up...into play-offs.

D. Wade walks away at home...planting 30.

Dirk's final in Dallas...does 'thirty.'

Johnson leaves...finally.

Little Big Bear...mak'n tOSU PROUD.

Day keeps: Owning *ichigan Tradition...this Nov.

Skunk Weasels step in it...^everyday.

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MichiBuck12's picture

Bosa leaving makes a lot of sense. I didn't like it that he left, but I understood it. But the way it was explained here makes a lot of sense. There was no real reason he needed to tie up the team trainers time and efforts when he wasn't going to play again this year anyway. I think him going to California and doing his own rehab was the best thing for everyone. It really really sucks though that we didn't get a chance to watch him and Chase Young for a full year. It feels a bit like that time we got robbed of the Joey and Noah Spence combo.

Magic Johnson sucks. Also, if Lebron wanted to be in the same conversation as MJ, his chance to do that is over. As great as he is, I see no other way for this to turn out other than for his career to fade away. Lebron in LA feels a bit like MJ in Washington. 

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Hovenaut's picture

That GI Joe WMD is a solid read. My prime toy window put me between the end of the original 12" action figure run and before the 3 3/4" line took off (I was more into the Six Million Dollar Man and Star Wars lines), but there's no denying the impact those toys had.

And the cartoon was a trip...as knowing is half the battle.

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ToTheHouse's picture

^The original G.I. Joe "Toy Soldier" made in 1963 once sold on eBay for $200,000.

*Might want to check the attic/basement toy box.

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Hovenaut's picture

Have a couple of older cousins that had some of them, I barely remember how extensive the line was between the figures and vehicles, playsets, and accessories.

Along with the Six Million Dollar Man and Star Wars, I knew Mego and the Fisher Price Adventure People toys, but missed out on the golden era of Joe (Kung Fu grip FTW).

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iowabuckeyes's picture

*Might want to check the attic/basement toy box.

Like most men, I blame my mother, who no doubt tossed my G.I Joes along with my baseball card collection, model ships, and hodge podge of electric football teams. When she sold her house 10 years ago, she gave us each a box of keepsakes—handmade cards, crayon drawings, school papers, and other stuff that that clearly meant more to her than to me. I can only wish my Johnny Bench rookie card had been in there.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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ToTheHouse's picture

Had close to half dozen at least of the Big Red Machine, used to lose & win them back in many games of...pitch-cards.

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infantrybuck's picture

I actually hung on to a lot of my GI JOES, and when I was in high school, sold a couple in decent condition to a dude down the street for 50$ A piece. He told me years later that his collection had been appraised for 250,000$.  There’s gonna be some serious to be had as the 80’s/90’s babies keep aging and getting richer.  Have you’ve seen that show “sloppy’s world” on Netflix? Seemed real dumb at first, but I couldn’t stop watching. Dude makes an absolute fortune selling items from that era

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Hovenaut's picture

Wow. 

I have nothing from my childhood. Didn't have much, but had some of those toys/comics (lost most of it in a flood - long story). Haven't seen "Sloppy's World", will have to look for that, but did check out "The Toys That Made Us" - great walk down memory lane. 

I wish I had the time/resources to collect and sell like that, and the nostalgia sells. 

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hetuck's picture

1. "Bitterly disappointed.", is a laconic response.

2. I know this will come across as a "get off my lawn" comment, but nowhere in that Bosa narrative did I see the word "class." I hope his withdrawal doesn't hurt OSU's APR. 

3. Updated spring game forecast is mostly sunny with a high of 59. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I hope Nick someday gets his degree; not every great athlete’s child—much less the all kids who idolize him and wear his jersey and pretend they’re him playing backyard Smear the Queer (yeah, I said it)—will get to follow in his footsteps but earning a college degree is a much more attainable goal that he can inspire people to achieve.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Invictus Buck's picture

Some times you have to go back in order to "Play school"

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stxbuck's picture

"Inspirational" is the most over used positive attribute ascribed to individuals. I respect peoples thoughts, opinions, and accomplishments, but getting "inspired" by social media bloviation and highlight clips-no way. 

When Hank Geathers died my buddies and I named our driveway mock-NCAA tournament-we played one on one and gave stats to the players on teams we drafted-in his honor-but we didn't go ranting to everyone about being 'inspired".

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ToTheHouse's picture

Everyday is a Bright New *Day*... in the 614.

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NOBLUE's picture

Gee ..sniff sniff i can't stop crying ..i feel so for Nicky...him and all his millions...sniff snifff...wahhhh...

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iowabuckeyes's picture

1 is the loneliest number...unless it’s followed by a bunch of zeroes, which are also the loser hanger-ons a person with a lot of money can attract. One of the silver linings of not being rich is no one is my friend because I have money. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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McGrind's picture

GI Joe in full scuba gear and a flutter kick...coolest tub toy ever.

Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP

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iowabuckeyes's picture
As boys’ tub toys get cast aside for men’s toys, I must kindly disagree.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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TMac's picture

How has UCLA BB fallen so far, that Mick Cronin is the choice for the new HC? ( at about #5 on thier list)

#ItsGreatToBeABUCKEYE

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Mick’s a solid coach but UCLA, man, I don’t know. I’m not sure anyone can return the Bruins to the level of their glory days. I’m not even talking Woodenesque. They haven’t won a national championship since Jim Harrick in 1995. They’d kill for his .756 winning percentage now—Mick’s is .682. It’s not far fetched to say UCLA is to MBB that Michigan is to CFB.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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cledaybuck's picture

That's a bit harsh.  UCLA went to back to back to back Final Fours in 2006, 2007, and 2008 (although somehow lost with a team that included Kevin Love AND Russell Westbrook).  Michigan hasn't won a CONFERNCE championship since, what, 2003?

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Sanantonefan's picture

In truth, comparing any team (or anything) to TTUN is a bit harsh.

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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acBuckeye's picture

Not just UCLA, but entire Pac 12 in football and basketball. Their conference TV deal is a joke compared to the other major conferences. Hence why they cant keep up.

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hetuck's picture

If you are going to go after the Caliparis' of the college basketball world, you have to bring the extra money to top what they are currently making and compensate for LA cost of living and state income tax. They wouldn't- or couldn't given PAC-12 finances - do it. The UCLA cachet is fading. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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Zimmy07's picture

Bonus word of the day: Defenestrated.  

Charles Barkley defenestrated a man and his only regret was that they weren’t on the 2nd floor.

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Run_Fido_Run's picture

The term originally came into usage with two separate politically-motivated defenestrations, both of which happened in Prague. The 1419 defenestration, when seven town officials were thrown from the window, sparked the Hussite Wars. 

The second Defenestration of Prague in 1618, when two Imperial governors were tossed, was the “big one,” because it contributed to the onset of the Thirty Years War, one of the bloodiest, most destructive, most disruptive wars in human history. 

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infantrybuck's picture

Tampa seems unbeatable and they certainly destroyed us each time we played this year. But if Bob can show up for once in the playoffs, the CBJ will probably never have the scoring death they currently have ever again (7 guys with 20 plus goals), so I think they have shot for an upset. The 8 beating a president’s cup winner has happened plenty of times before in the NHL.

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bucknut1994's picture

Yep tonight is huge. If Bob plays well and doesn't get into his own head I think we have a shot at it. 

#94Ways

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SantaBarbaraBuck's picture

Googling defenestrating...

"Man I wish everyone stop saying I beat a kid in the hospital 91-35.... It was 98-35, had 91 with 1:26 left in the 4th"
- Cardale Jones

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GoBuckeyes1020's picture

I'm thinking Kevin has been busting out his thesaurus......

The pain of discipline or the pain of regret, take your pick

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Easier to hide misspellings  when you use big words??? ;)

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UpIrons's picture

Since I grew up in Massillon and am old enough ( I was 11 in 1983) that I can share a bit of the history behind Spielman getting on the wheaties box. Chris was a hero in Massillon. I didn't even go to public school there but everyone in town knew who he was. In fact, I subbed for a friend of the family's paper route and actually delivered The Evening Independant for a week to Chris and family, but I digress... Kind of out of the blue, Wheaties decided they were going to put a high school athlete on the box. I don't know exactly how it started but it was like wildfire once enough word got around. Everyone in Massillon was fired up to get Chris on that box cover. You had to buy wheaties to get the box tops to send in your votes, but you could vote as often as you wanted - this sparked the entire town to sell out every grocery store in the area on a weekly basis. They could not keep Wheaties on the shelves but the stores knew what was going on too so after a week or so they made sure they had pallets of Wheaties available for everyone to get their hands on them.

Once we all put in our votes we had a shit ton of Wheaties and, well, lets face it - you get tired of Wheaties week after week. So the ladies in town put out a recipe book that had dozens of things you could make with your Wheaties and it sold really well at all the local gatherings in town.

By the time Wheaties announced Chris won the contest by a landslide we were all pretty sick of Wheaties but it was an amazing thing knowing that our entire town banded together like that.

The irony is that when the box came out with him on it, we all had to buy even more Wheaties and of course it's a major collectors item if you're from Massillon. So imagine the disappointment at first when Chris announced he wanted to go to Michigan! Thankfully his Dad talked some sense into him!

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Zimmy07's picture

That’s an awesome story I knew nothing about.

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3SticksBucks's picture

You do realize Magic J is the worst executive in the history of business.  and the only guy to get FAT from Aids!!!!!...Boph are true!

3SticksBucks

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ToTheHouse's picture

Johnson ran out of *magic*...looong before this.

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cledaybuck's picture

You do realize Magic J is the worst executive in the history of business

Matt Millen would like a word with you.

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Rockfordbuckeye's picture

HIV medications can cause weight gain and fat redistribution - so many people may gain weight. Also he doesn’t have AIDS - he is just HIV positive. 

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Please don't confuse him with facts...

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Rockfordbuckeye's picture

There was a lot I wanted to say but I tried to take the higher road ;-)

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Sanitarian2's picture

Leaving because he wanted the training staff to pay more attention to his teammates, what a sacrifice.

Sani

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gr8bucks's picture

Speaking of saying things with a straight face; saying russell exposed swaggy's cheating was accidental, is like saying watergate was a botched plumbing job. 

 Betraying the players',  bro's before ho's mantra, and then thinking he did nothing wrong, that is the immaturity that johnson is speaking about.

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Meek's picture

What happened again? As I recall, when the celebrity iPhone hacks were going on, someone stole the video from his cloud that had the other player talking about cheating on his celebrity girlfriend.

- OSU ISE -+-  Premium Banter -+- OH48 80k -

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dwersch11's picture

Honestly think Magic did right with giving away Dlo. He wasn't going to be anything with the Lakers, and the whole situation was awkward. Glad to see him being successful in Brooklyn.

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IGotAWoody's picture

Magic made a decision (and major gamble) that Lonzo Ball would turn out to be a better point guard than Russell. I think the jury is still out on that, but at this point in time, Magic's choice looks pretty flawed.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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dwersch11's picture

Have to account the awkward situation they were in, especially with the snitching incident. 

dannywersching

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IGotAWoody's picture

As the article alluded to, he shoulda sent Swaggy P packing instead.

“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt

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Buckeye Chuck's picture

When people talk potential one-and-done to the NFL players, there are separate questions: one-and-done and letting a guy sit until he develops physically, or one-and-done AND playing immediately in the NFL as a 19-year-old? The latter would be really, really unusual; and the former isn't realistic because (unlike baseball) the clock starts ticking as soon as you sign your first deal, and NFL teams aren't going to spend big money up front, and give away a precious roster spot, for someone who can't play right away.

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tampatom's picture

We forget even though these guys have mens bodies, they still have minds of 18 year olds, Maybe some of the guys could handle the one and done physically, but its asking alot to balance that against all the temptations that come with the wealth and fame when you are that young..you need some strong mentors to help. I remember a story that Al Kaline told, he made the tigers as an 18 year old and his father traveled with him on the train for away games so he would not get into trouble!

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dwersch11's picture

Going to miss the Bosa's. Great kids, great competitors. He had to do what was best for him and his future. Respect it. 

dannywersching

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Eph97's picture

If 247 existed back then Orlando Pace would have been ranked as the highest rated recruit of all time. As of now, its (lol) Rashan Gary.

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acBuckeye's picture

And Pace would've pancaked his ass into oblivion.

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chumley's picture

It was 6 Buckeyes that were named. Alonzo Spellman must have been before your time, but he was a Buckeye for sure.

Badgers? We don't need no stinking badgers!- UHF

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semperfibuck's picture

Nobody, but noooobody, gets better press than Majic Johnson. Great, great hoopster!  Businessman and bball exec? Not so much.

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Buckeye_Condor's picture

"which is probably the only thing that kept me from defenestrating my laptop." 

Love the word usage Kevin. Thanks for keepin' us all some what sane in the offseason, else us buck nuts would be loose on the streets and a danger to society. 

Connor Brown

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Sanantonefan's picture

Yesterday I scrubbed my floor with a brush and celebrated with some rum. I'm a parrot short of being a pirate.

Working on the peg leg???

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Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Seriously HATE the NBA / NCAA one year and done rule and I really don't want to see it implemented for football.  Of COURSE the NFL is backing this because they want their hands on the best product they can acquire.  The carnage of players leaving early is felt year after year and I shudder to think how devastating this would be to the continuity and success of programs.  Yes, I'm all in support of these kids leaving early under the present rules (even though it SUCKS for us fans) but I really don't want to see the wild wild west if it is one and done

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Where does the article say that the NFL is backing this? The NFL is perfectly happy letting the universities and colleges develop their talent pool for three years minimum. Look at the number of 3* players in the NFL. It would be a crap-shoot trying to pick one-and-done players in football. Basically, the NFL would need a farm system like baseball to assess talent. Since the NFL would have to pay for such a system and the current system comes at no cost to them...not hard to figure out which side of the fence the NFL would end up on. 

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Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Backing is probably not the appropriate word - but they most certainly would be onboard with drafting the players they felt could play!

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

That is true, although realistically, how many players would that even entail? We get top talent that has to sit a year or two before being ready to play both mentally and physically. And we both know how many kids would think that they are ready when they couldn't even sniff an NFL roster. Hopefully nothing changes with football. 

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stpetebuck's picture

Its pretty simple. Let the players take endorsement money. Doesn’t cost the school and keeps players in college longer because their brand might be stronger on the college level than pro. Great college players aren’t necessarily successful at the next level, so it’s a financial gamble to leave early. 

And it’s fair. A average scholly player gets free tuition (worth $100k - $300l depending in school) and the stars get whatever Nike will pay.  

Ive said it before but endorsement deals would insist players play in bowl games too. 

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Only problem there is that Nike is tied to Oregon. That opens up the possibility of a team assembling a "super team" because they can outbid every other entity for players. Kind of like Alabama...

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stpetebuck's picture

 I hear yeah, but Nike is tied to money first. They will spread the love Wherever star players go. Plus  players would avoid teams loaded with stars because they might not get a chance to see the field. So in this case the market would decide where players go to get the best coaches and best chances. 

 I think it’s safe to say that players today are already looking at their brand at the college level. It’s why they transfer like they do.  

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