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Added the article link to your post, '67 - thanks for sharing here.
This nugget stood out to me:
“I thought Dwayne should’ve waited, but he’s the most like Tom Brady of anyone we’ve had," Dilfer said. "He sees it like Tom, he works at it, he plays that way. He plays on time, with his intellectual process. I don’t want to compare anyone to Brady, but he’s Tom Brady-ish.”
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Does this mean there's a supermodel wife in his future? As well as millions of people groaning in agony when his name is mentioned?
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It's deflating to think about.
The article states that Haskins may end up being the #4 QB drafted. So many teams blowing smoke before the draft...who knows. If he is available when the Bengals pick at #11, they better jump on it.
Not taking Haskins at 11 would be a classic Bengals move.
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The Bengals ARE NOT drafting Haskins. People mocking him there have no idea the nature of Mike Brown. Even if people think he’s soured on his ability to be a franchise QB (which he hasn’t because he’s an idiot), they pay Andy 14 MIL a year, which is pennies on the dollar for serviceable NFL QB. He is and always will be a cheap skate, except when it comes to giving big deals out to guys and overpaying them past their prime so they end their careers as Bengals like he did with Dunlap and Atkins. I wouldn’t put it past him doing the same with Andy.
Brown just needs to retire..and sell the franchise to someone that is willing to turn this team into a playoff caliber team..
The problem with doing that is the Bengals have so many holes on their offensive line that they could set Haskins up to fail by neglecting to address them first and drafting him at 11 instead. I'm a Bengals fan and trust me, I'd love to have Dwayne. But given how rattled we've seen him get under pressure at times he deserves better than the offensive line we are currently fielding. Drafting a QB and expecting him to work miracles behind a shaky offensive line brings back nightmares of failed QBs past like David Klingler tbh. That being said I would be nothing short of excited if we did draft him at 11. They'd just better plan on sitting him behind Dalton for a year and focus on using the rest of the draft to improve the offensive line.
Dstacify, I get what you are saying about needing a good offensive line to protect a young QB. However, if I am taking an offensive lineman in front of Haskins it better be a can’t miss prospect like Tony Mandarich .
LOL, no sarcasm font needed on the Tony Mandarich shade-throwing...
Bengals fan here also. Regular-season Andy would still be the starter this year. Sit Haskins his first year, as they did Palmer, and allow him to learn while holding a clip board. Use later draft picks this year to address the OL along with next year. Great minds think alike ;)
I do think the upside to taking a prospect like Haskins is that we won't need to throw an entire season just to get one of the top guys coming out next year. If Haskins is the pick at 11 I will 100% support him. Dalton is not a bad QB at all IMO but he's gonna be 32 by the time the season starts. I'd rather not be locked into him for the long haul like say, the Giants are with Eli Manning right now because the Maras like Eli too much to ever allow him to lose his starting job.
Haskins would sit his first year if drafted by the Bengals as you noted. Wasn't Brady a so-so college player that sat for a time before becoming great?
Well tbf Haskins was anything but so-so during his one year at OSU. So I don't see the comparison there. Brady was a 6th Rd pick who was never really expected to start IIRC. Drew Bledsoe's injury forced him into action and the Pats never looked back from there.
I think Brady was lucky to end up with Belichick and that Belichick lucky he ended up with Brady and they both ended up in New England. I think where you end up and who your coaches are can help you greatly succeed. I can see where if Brady did not end up where he did his history may have been written differently, along with Belichick and the same thing can happen to Haskins. He could either end up in the right place with the right coach or he won't and it will make a difference in how much he succeeds.
Peter King said yesterday, I believe, that he's hearing Haskins is "sinking" down draft boards, and that he's now "QB4." I cannot fathom Haskins being graded the 4th best quarterback in this draft, but King is a fairly well respected NFL reporter, so...
Still, has to be pre-draft liars jockeying for position... I think.
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I think it's pretty telling that all of the teams who are presumed to need a QB tried really hard this offseason to either sign or trade for a mediocre one. The Dolphins got Fitz, Broncos got Flacco, Washington got Keenum, nobody knows if the Giants want to take a QB or not, etc.
Kinda concerning for Dwayne.
The Dolphins are likely still drafting a QB. Fitz is a bridge guy and nothing more than that and you don't sign players like him to tank either (they should've rolled with Luke Falk or David Fales if they wanted to play for Tua next year). The Fitz signing tells me the Dolphins plan on taking a QB in this draft and grooming him behind Fitz for a year.
Kyler Murray and Drew Lock being ranked ahead of Haskins I can sort of understand (though I also see a few similarities to Blaine Gabbert in Lock) but Daniel Jones? That kid is a second round talent at best and a huge project. He probably will go in the first but if any team is stupid enough to take him in the top half of the first well shame on them.
NFL coaches and scouts are some of the worst kind of narcissists. They believe because Jones was coached by Cutcliffe at Duke, he’s the 3rd manning brother.
I think Jones is at best the Ryan Tannehill of this draft. And that's most certainly not what you want in a franchise QB.
The scouts are questioning his accuracy of all things. Saying that his receivers were so good and always wide open. I’m amazed by this, even if they were wide open his ball placement was as good as I’ve ever seen as a Buckeye. Those crossing routes were always in stride so they could get yards after catch. Haskins is far from polished but he’s young. They are overlooking his mental compacity for the game. What it boils down too is now the nfl is in love with the athletic guy, Maholmes, Mayfield, Wilson...etc. he’s old school. I don’t get it. He’s the type of qb that has won in the league the past 30 years, but they want the new splashy guy.
The disrespect is all Haskins needs to blow it up in the league.
A better comparison for Dwayne would be to someone like Barry Sanders or Walter Payton.
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Feel like Haskins is more of a Mike Vick prototype than anything
Is Haskins big into dogfighting as well? I did not know that lol.
This wa my take too. I thought Dwayne should stay for a year to get that extra year of development to make him that much better and make up that money by winning titles. But I also think Dwayne has a chance to be really special. Which is why I wanted one more year of development. Either way, I think he will be very good and I am excited to watch.
It’s easy to forget, but when Haskins declared, Kyler Murray was still projected to play baseball and Haskins saw this as his best shot to be QB1 in this draft. Next year, he’d be contending with a much deeper class and guys like Tua and Herbert. He got while the gettin’ seemed good. Can’t blame him. Even if he does fall some, I think he’ll have a great career. And really, he’s probably better off going to a middle tier team than a top 5-10 picking team. Those tend to be QB career killing squads.
I can't blame him either. But I predicted it. A ton go GMs won't even take a QB without more than one year of college film. Parcells wouldn't. And of course the NFL was gonna tell him he'd go earlier; they needed more stud QBs to hype up their draft. I just thought staying an extra year was being on the safe side. Either way, I hope Haskins lights up the league.
Everything you mention, only mentions where he'd get taken this year or next? That only matters to the bank account in the early portion of a career, if its successful. I thought the draft should have been an afterthought. Money should not have come before preparation. IMO.
With that being said. I love the kid and think he'll do fine either way. But this was very predictable. Well, this potential possibility is anyway.
A lot of the comments sound like what was said about Cardale Jones after the 2014 season
Tbf in Cardale's case a lot of them turned out to be right. Cardale hurt his draft stock more than anything by returning in 2015 to play under a completely convoluted offensive scheme.
To be fair, SI has been slipping down my sports magazine boards for a while now...
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Yeah, SI should stick with the swimsuit only issues.
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While I think Haskins is by far the best QB in this draft, I wouldnt be against to him sliding down the draft boards. It would be a better spot for him than going to a desperate team who needs instant leadership and impact.
I find it funny you see people say his lack of starting experience is a concern yet you see guys like Lock and Herbert who are "elite" but literally were never elite in the game. They werent and arnt game changers. You can literally see more progression from Haskins in one season than you did from Lock or Herbert throughout their careers.
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PLEASE fall to the Bengals...
It would shock me if Haskins wasn't, at worst, the 2nd QB off the board. I think there are some teams in the latter half of the draft trying to send smoke signals up to the top to make it seem like Haskins isn't as good as he is so they can get that prototypical QB.
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