Without hesitation I am a Bob Knight guy. He was far from perfect but was head and shoulders above John Calipari, Jim Boheim, UNC, etc. Far from perfect as we all know but look at how many of his formers players have gone into coaching and teaching. Not to mention what he has done for Landon Turner. He expected his players to learn in practice and execute during a game. Steve Alford wrote a book about his experiences with Knight. The title escapes me but it provides a lot of insight into his mind and methods. If he could only recruit a center.
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I respect him as a coach but from what I’ve seen and heard he was a dick head. Would have been nice to have seen him handle himself with more class.
Bob Knight is man that is judged very harshly by 2019 moral standards, and did some questionable things in his day, but this sucks. I think he genuinely wanted what was best for those around him, so it saddens me to see him in decline.
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I agree, but there is never really a great period of time, to use an analogy like " if rape is inevitable, then lie back and enjoy it.."... Most people through out history know that is way out of bounds..
He immediately qualified his comment in that interview with this..."I'm not talking about that, about the act of rape. Don't misinterpret me there. But what I'm talking about is, something happens to you, so you have to handle it - now.''
You are maligning this man falsely for a misunderstood comment made 23 years ago. And that is worthy of the dv I just logged in to give you.
Case in point.
Yeah, but he was being interviewed by a woman. It was an awful comment to make in a recorded interview that you knew was going to be televised. We have some pretty disgusting sayings in Navy that illustrate some great points. But I'm sure as hell not going to use them in an interview for television or the news media.
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+1 for the triggered millennials
Amen, 3M...well said.
The good most definitely outweighs the bad with Coach Knight, and it's tough to read the news here.
I liked this guy, didn't like everything he did or said.
He definitely belongs among the giants upon whose shoulders present-day college athletics stand.
Some guy wrote this:
“The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones.”
So it will likely be with Coach Knight. A flawed man, like the rest of us. Hate to see this happen to a great coaching mind. Or anyone, for that matter.
Sad to read about this. Happens to so many late in life.
He loved Fred Taylor and honored and praised him through his career.
In the mid-eighties and then again in the early nineties after I had moved back to Columbus from New York, I got my hair cut by Emil Colosimo, who had a barber shop in that little shopping center on the northeast corner of Fishinger and Riverside Drive. He cut Bob Knight's hair every time Coach Knight came to town to visit Coach Taylor. And it turns out that Coach Knight visited Coach Taylor a lot. Emil was full of stories about what all Bob Knight was doing for Coach Taylor. I had never been a huge fan of the Knightster, until I learned more about who he was as a person. He is imperfect, just like me, but he has a great many positive qualities.
I resent people who judge Woody solely on how his career ended. I consider them lazy for not taking the time to find out about all the many and varied great things he did for people off the football field. Could it be that Bob Knight is suffering this same fate at the hands of some?
Bobbing for french fries.
Bobby Knight had immense respect for Fred Taylor and for OSU. It's a shame that when Taylor left he didn't get the job here instead of Eldon the flunky Miller. I doubt many people may remember this, but when O'Brien was fired the OSU basketball alumni (Bill Hosket in particular) lobbied Andy Geiger hard, VERY HARD to get Knight here. For a while it seemed like a foregone conclusion that he would be the next coach, but Geiger wanted to go the youthful route and went with Matta - a wise decision obviously. But after that, every single time Bobby Knight came to Columbus for an OSU game he was respectful, almost to the point of reverential, towards the OSU program. It was then that I realized how differently he viewed OSU than IU. I honestly believe if he had been OSU's coach from the mid 70s on you would have seen a more behaved Knight. He didn't have any ties to IU and didn't really respect the institution like he did OSU.
after the debacle in Minnesota and how it was handled I doubt Bob wanted to work for the administration that was in charge at the time
Sadly sounds like dementia, which my dad went through before passing last year. It’s incredibly sad to see, and just as tough on the caregivers. Here’s wishing him the best, it’s an awful disease.
Yes, it does, Wishing him and his family the best
Having watched two family members on my father's side be taken away by Alzheimer's, this sucks to read.
You hope that guys like this stay sharp and their personality stays till the end, sadly that's not the case sometimes.
I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.
I Believe In Ohio State.
What’s sad is the supposed family/friends around him allowing the obvious decline to be broadcast for a public viewing. Dementia is not something that should be shown like a car wreck or circus side-show.
The mental faculties diminish, but the strong will remains...
Very sad; definitely seems like dementia. One of the most heartbreaking things about Alzheimer's/dementia in general--and I speak from experience as I have a fairly extensive family history of it (which scares me personally quite a bit, but that's a different story)--is how much, in the midst of incoherence/confusion/memory loss/etc., the true self, the whole person, still comes through at times. In the article linked to above, the quotes from Knight are certainly characteristic of dementia, but they also are consistent with the hilarious curmudgeon he's always been. He's still lucid to the extent that his sense of self seems be intact, and anyone who has experience with relatives with dementia can tell you that that's a blessing.
The temper tantrums we're amusing for me as someone who is not a fan of the school, but I had genuine sympathy for the refs. Every time they went into a game with him they had no idea if he was going to blow his top.
With that said, father time is still undefeated. He had a very productive life and touched a lot of people. He will be remembered for doing more and accomplishing more than most.
High and tight boo boo
I know he went to OSU, but Bobby Knight was an asshole.
And you know is from your personal experiences with Coach Knight?
A lot of people feel the same way about Coach Hayes, especially outside of Ohio, FWIW.
My dad and I used to not care for Bob Knight, then I pointed out the similarities he had to Woody. We were a little less harsh on Knight after that, and admire the good things he had in common with Woody like graduating a lot of his players. I still think Woody is a better guy and Knight was over vilified but that's just one Crumb's opinion.
"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War
I am sorry to read about this. I don't wish that on anyone, ever a terrible human being like Bobby Knight.
The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes
I don't wish that on anyone, even a terrible human being like Bobby Knight
But you dont mind taking a potshot at a 78 yr old man in poor health. I think that makes you the terrible human being
What even makes a terrible human being scarletNgrey? How can "terrible" people also do "good" things, and "good" people do "terrible" things? Funny how every different individual, culture, society and time period has a different standard.
SMH that a case of dementia has turned into a bash Bob Knight thread.
This man has done so much for so many people. He just never publicized it. He's a great man, much like our dear Woody!
I know many who have met him at coaching clinics and say in the block with him you can see how brilliant he is as a basketball coach, he was also the favorite of many young kids who attended his clinics.