If it were Tathan I'd believe it was an AFD joke. He's the type that would perpetuate that.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
Has this kind of thing ever happened before?
Class of 2010.
Gotta be a first.
I assumed so as well but I decided to looked it up just in case and it has surprisingly happened several times.
The “biggest” name I found was forward Donnavan Kirk who went from Miami (FL) to DePaul and then back to Miami (FL). He played over 20 minutes a game at both universities.
emotionally exhausted and morally bankrupt
Yeah it has even this year. There’s a big man on vcu named Michael Gilmore I think. He started off at vcu, transferred to Florida gulf coast and then transferred back to vcu for his senior year. It happens I guess.
Not to sound like a spurned-lover or anything, but no thanks. Even putting aside his history here, he averaged 1.9 pts and 1.9 rebounds last year. If we take on a transfer I'd rather just take a flyer on a mid-conference guy with better numbers.
He shot a mean imaginary bow and arrow though.
I even said on another thread that he looks like Tarzan plays like Jane.... that said if it is only for one year and he provides the height we don't have and he might be a better D player at that position for one year than we can find ( his strength coming out of HS was good D) then if Coach wants him I want him.
Intriguing for sure. I'd prefer Diallo but Giddens would be an interesting fallback plan.
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Maybe someone is pulling an April Fools joke on Gleitman lol. This is really strange.
But he's a good defender and played hard when he was here before, so we shall see.
That was my thought as well, maybe his source is the one doing the joke haha.
He left the first time because he saw himself as a stretch 4 and not as a center. He would be coming here to back up Kaleb Wesson.
You win with people.
And so forth...
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And if I recall he left when Matta was still HC, so maybe he likes Holtmann more. This shows the kid obviously enjoyed his time at OSU, but not sure he fits into our plans (I'll trust the staff on that one)
People complain about Wesson’s foul trouble, Giddens is even worse...
Gidden (for his career) averages 7.7 fouls per 40 minutes, Wesson averages 5.2 fouls per 40 minutes
Play them each 20 mins and that puts them both under 3-1/2 to 4 fouls/game average.../s
A big body in the B1G! Whats not to like.?!He'd sure as hell keep Kaleb in shape in practice.
That bingo square would for sure come out of the archives.
I actually liked Giddens while he was here. Played hard and was a good defender, even if the offensive game was lacking. Unsure if he would be a good take coming back however, gonna trust the staff on that decision. Still want Diallo though.
I liked him as a player as well. IMO he was a bright spot on a team that didn't have many, and I looked forward to his continued development. That being said, I'm not sure how I feel about a return to Cbus. I tend to become enamored of the shiny new toys (Diallo) so I will leave it to the folks paid to make those decisions.
My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)
I agree--he played with passion and never seemed to have a bad attitude, even when others in his class did. Of all the ones that left, he was the one I was most surprised to see go.
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
He got Dakich. He got Woods. I trust he knows what hes doing.
Ok not exactly muderer's row there. That's like saying he got me and you. Woods had a half a dozen good games scoring. He's building, I don't expect players that don't know him or osu to come, yet. But they will, as will the recruits, like this year.
I mean maybe he just needed to grow up. Obviously he likes OSU he wouldn't have committed here otherwise
Giddens to Ohio State??? LOL!!
At Alabama he average ALL of 1.9 ppg and 1.9 rebounds per game.
For his sake he needs to transfer to a DII school
Rather have the kid from Butler
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
The fact Gleitman has to keep reiterating it’s not a fake/joke report tells you how absurd the idea is. That being said if the staff believes it’s going to help then so be it. Assuming we get Diallo or ANY other big I don’t think Giddens is much more than another practice body, but who knows... He was a likeable kid when he was here...
Or that it's 4-1.
Being glass half full, in his Soph year at Bama, he averaged 4.2 pts, 2.5 rebs, and 1 block in 13 mins a game. Shot 58% from the field and free throw line. Not amazing, but much better than his Junior production.
He has good size and obviously has the body type to mix it up in the Big 10. I imagine he has been humbled by how his career has turned out. I don't think motivation would be a problem. And the fact he is even interested in returning says a lot about his character, in my humble opinion.
I play, coach stays. He goes, I go.
You have got to be gidden me
I'd rather Micah Potter come back.
"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War
What the what?
Pain of Discipline
Pain of Regret
Take Your Pick
If true.. hard pass
I'm with you on that. The "Fled Five" can stay "fled".
Enjoy the wins over *ichigan, ....I still remember the dark days of the 1990's....
I'd rather give Baldwin , Fishburne or Hayek, from the movie "Fled" a shot at the roster than redo a player that bailed on the program.
Thanks but no thanks. Giddens is a nice "first off the bus" type of player, but he's not scholarship worthy on a team competing at our level.
The only thing I can figure is the staff already knows Brunk ain't happening.
We are in a position where we need a back-up big who can contribute right away in some fashion and you are going to have an extremely tough time convincing a good grad transfer big to come here and watch Kaleb play 25-30 mpg every game. So if we're out of it for Brunk, the staff decided to kick the tires on Giddens since he is long and athletic and has high-major/B1G/OSU (lol) experience. Apparently there is mutual interest so now a visit is happening.
I don't think this really says anything about Diallo because I think Diallo should RS, anyways, because he is THAT raw and for class balance purposes. Be kind of hilarious if we did end up with two seniors next season, both of which started their careers at OSU but one of which took a three-year detour to Bama and the SEC.
the empire never ended
I think you kick the tires on any player who could help until someone commits.
B. is an unknown, yes-no-unsure, but w. has to have a backup, that's a certainty. They have to do due diligence, so while someone they like is looking around, they have to do the same thing. They'll get the best player they can, that wants to play at osu, it may not be who the fans want, but choices are limited and windows close very fast, so they have to keep an ear to the ground and an invite to campus at first opportunity.
Yours is by far, the best opinion on this page.
I'll take yours one further, I think they want a 2nd big not just for w. but so d. can rs.. D. can play 10 mins. a game, get a board, block a shot and dunk a lob as well as any grad that's been mentioned; but like you said he gains a year of separation from w., he's then in the tiny '20 class, which improves those numbers, and most importantly, he'll go from extremely raw, to tastily delicious, with the just right amount of seasoning. lol
It's a win-win for both the athlete and osu.
Noooooooooooooo thank you that class was poison. Next
He definitely played with passion and was a good defender...but I would prefer some other options before diving back in. His stats don't jump out at me, but I also trust this staff to know what they need.
Brunk would be awesome, but if that doesn't work, I guess this would be a good backup plan?
Correct me if I’m wrong IP, but I believe Brunk would be here for two years, while Giddens would be here for one. Holtmann has stated he’d like two scholarships available for the 2020 class, and if Brunk comes here, we’ll only have one unless someone leaves early or transfers. I think this is one advantage of Giddens over Brunk.
There's 2 schollies open currently, Potter and the texas tornado, plus aw for '20, so even with b. there'd be 2 for '20, as it stands now. But if they're kicking the tires, on g., b. is a no, or at least, a not sure now. This news doesn't affect d. one way or the other, except for a redshirt possibility, which h. has certainly discussed with him. With a 2nd big it's a lock, without, virtually impossible.
As others have mentioned g. played really hard when he was here. It's imperative that w. has a backup, and if g. is the best grad that wants to be here, so be it. He's 4 years physically and mentally advanced from when he was a frosh, and the talent is much improved around him, plus he's looking at sub minutes for most of the games. He can surely rebound, block a shot, and stuff a lob, for 10 minutes, like some suggested for d.
a,b,c, or all of the above...
Makes it awful difficult to figure out what you are trying to say when names are reduced to a single letter. Just an observation.
Yes, as it stands, there are 2 shollys available for 2020....if Diallo comes in, then there is one. So getting a senior grad transfer would be imperative to keep 2 for 2020.
With Giddens taking a visit this week, i would not be shocked if this is the direction Holtmann and the staff is going.
Giddens makes a lot of sense...one year rental player that doesn’t consume 2020 scholarship. Rim protector that Brunk doesn’t provide. All he’d be asked to do is play aggressive defense, block shots and dive to rim to receive lobs to dunk from all our play makers next year. Might even motivate Kaleb and can still have room for Diallo. Can play more offensive players as well because he provides some measure of cleanup as last line of defense.
I get the visceral "nope" reaction to Giddens and his past at Ohio State. However, I think we're really in a pretty narrow market for Grad Transfers. We only want a 1 year Grad Transfer, and I suspect Holtmann is not overselling the playing time. Sure, they will get a chance to compete, but he's probably nothing more than an 8-12 minutes a night player. That's means we're probably not getting starters from even lesser conferences to transfer in. We're looking for a guy who can compete and defend other bigs. That's something we can find in a grad transfer, we won't get a difference maker unless we can offer difference maker playing time.
How about David Bell, is he going to play another year at Jacksonville? Not sure how good he is but he did hit the weight room during his time at tOSU IIRC.
I heard he’s down in Cincinnati as the Reds new skipper.
Well then he's almost certainly going to be available in October. Even if he's an improvement over the last guy.
Hmmm interesting, but if we’re taking back former Thad players...can we have the white kid with the crazy hair that looked like sideshow Bob instead? I forget his name but he could really shoot and I appreciated his enthusiasm a lot more.
Amedeo Della Valle. He's playing pro ball in Europe.
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There are two open schollies. Using one on a freshman (or multi-year player) and one on a 1 year grad transfer seems to make the most sense, especially with 2020 in mind. While the incoming 2019 kids are promising, I'm not sure any of them are 1-and-done. With Andre having one more year, that leaves (in the above scenario) two slots open for 2020. For what it's worth, I'd take a more mature Giddens back for one season. Even with his shortcomings, he at least tried. 10 minutes a game spelling Kaleb is all the team really needs.
That being the case, Diallo is really the key. If he commits, take him and Giddens, and redshirt Diallo. If ID doesn't commit, maybe you take Brunk AND Giddens, giving you 15 fouls and plenty of depth at the 5, with both a more offensive-minded and a more defensive-minded backup for Kaleb. Or if ID doesn't commit, you take Giddens and maybe a Roderick.
And are there other grad transfer options at the 5 too? I thought I read something somewhere about several other possibilities.
There are other grad transfer bigs, just not many that I think we could convince to come here and sit behind Kaleb.
Brunk is good enough at a position of need that he'd be absolutely worth the scholarship for two years. But I think Holtmann must know that it's a no-go and Brunk's headed to IU.
Did anyone mention we have two open scholarships?
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I won't turn my nose up at Giddens because he would be a better player next year than Diallo. He's only a one year player and with ships available, we don't really have anything to lose. The guy is a great athlete and think he can add something we don't have currently. If we can get out and run the floor a bit more next year, he is a guy that can certainly do that as well. Obviously, he doesn't have much of an offensive skill set, but as has been mentioned, you aren't likely to get a good hired gun that wants to come and be a 12-15 minute backup player.
Giddens has always been a great physical specimen who cant play beyond 5 feet from the basket. His shot has almost zero range and is a good around the hoop defender, but in any kind of space he is a liability both offensively and defensively.
Taking his entire career to date he is barely a 50% guy from the field, and 48.8% from the FT line, meaning he has no range beyond maybe 5 feet.
He has been good at blocking shots, got his degree in 4 years and from everything we know seems like a good kid, but on the court he is essentially a rental body. His 40 minute averages is 10 pts, 8 boards and 8 fouls a game. In the first 3 games he played in at Bama he committed 6 fouls and 6 TO's in 22 mins of play ie barely half a game, to go with his 11 REB and 4 Pts
I know we need someone desperately, but Giddens to me would be real desperate. He had his shot both here and at Bama and has never panned out to anyting more than a Clarence Hammond level player (for you old schoolers out there) , ie he is at best a 10 min a game defensive sub
"ie he is at best a 10 min a game defensive sub"
Right, and that's probably also the best-case scenario for the type of grad transfer big that we could convince to actually come here and sit behind Kaleb, who everyone knows is going to play 25-30 mpg as long as he stays healthy and un-suspended.
I don't disagree with any of your points, mind you. I am hopeful that maybe the experience he has gained and maybe Holtmann and Johnson having some good ideas about how to utilize him in their gap-man defense could allow him to flourish to some degree in a minor role. I would expect basically no offense from him and would be rooting for him not to get fouled.
I know this post is about Giddens but is anybody aware is Seth Towns is grad transferring from Harvard? I’ve seen his name thrown around a couple of time. If he is, that would be someone they should be on the phone with immediately. From Ohio and was the the POY in the Ivy League his Sophomore year.
Why would he be grad transferring from Harvard? I agree he'd be the perfect player to get from the grad transfer market for Ohio State because we need a guy who can be a go to wing scorer and get his own bucket. But I mean he missed all of this year with injury but still has one more. It would make sense next year him grad transferring for a fifth year because ivy league schools don't take fifth year players for some reason. I highly doubt this year though. Not like Amaker is leaving and Harvard is always a top two team in the ivy with him. I mean they should have won the ivy this year but they suffered a ton of key injuries like Towns. And they are going to be even better next year with basically everyone back. So it doesn't really make sense for him to leave this year and not a lot of players transfer out of Harvard historically under amaker.
I liked giddens, played hard, interacted with fans positively, I remember one time he apologized for missing on a play to fans and made a promise to never do it again. I hated to see him go, he was the one out of the 5 that I wished would have never left. He was quick, shoots good, runs the floor well for a big man. I'm not sure why he didn't work out at Alabama, but then again, not surprised because bama isn't known for basketball. If he wants to come back, I hope the coaches take him in a heartbeat. Not because of his potential, but because of his heart. Everybody knows he left because he didn't like the selfish players that left after him. Now he has a do-over. So let's do it Buckeyes
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