Well, fuckity fuck fuck.
"It's always scotch-thirty on my island."
This is some bullshit.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
Babb was jinxed. Jinxed i tell you
Some guys are just injury prone their whole careers. Babb and Hillard are two examples.
Man. You really have to feel for both of these guys.
This sucks. Dudes just cannot catch a break.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
My heart aches for Hillard :/ been a longggg few years as a buckeye
I hope Babb uses Johnnie D as an example. Came back so strong after potentially career ending injuries. As for Hilliard, it just makes me a little sad we haven't been able to see what this dude is capable of on the defensive side of the football. I remember being so excited for his commitment.
Fast healing to them both!
Three ACL tears are a little different than what Johnnie went through. I get the sentiment, but I think at some point the body gives in before the mind.
Nobody said it was an ACL injury again. He could be looking at a meniscal repair, which takes a while to heal from as opposed to a menisectomy. Probably another ACL since it's indefinite, but tough to be sure.
Regardless, I feel bad for both of these guys. Tough to take.
Ignorance isn't bliss for the rest of us.
I think pretty much everywhere is saying it's another ACL tear.
Lettermen Row had the initial report and confirmed it's another torn ACL
So heavy in my thoughts and heart as a parent! Take care young man!
I would rather be on hand with 10 men then elsewhere with 10,000 - Timur Lenk
I dont read their non-sense. I get my news from one source. Here.
TL:DR My bad.
That sucks. Have to wonder if Hilliard just hangs it up at this point.
He will be out a year. Hopefully it wasnt too bad.
This just sucks. Babb should get some heavy physical rehab. It seems like he's coming back too soon.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
I highly tough they're clearing him too early. Done people are just more prone to injuries of certain types than others. The OSU PT department is top notch.
I need to stop responding on my phone. It gets terrible with the swype-os.
Lord have mercy.
If you die before you die, then you won't die when you die.
Damn, man. Just... damn.
This really sucks.
For all intents and purposes this ends Hilliard's college football career. "Targeting" a mid-season return is hardly a guarantee of anything, and then having to finish learning a new defensive system in order to participate effectively would seem to eliminate the possibility of anything beyond special teams. I the NCAA could be asked for a 6th year of eligibility IF he doesn't play in 2019. Would Day do that for someone injury-prone who hasn't shown he can make a significant contribution.
For Babb, I know there are examples like Johnnie Dixon and Jamaal Dean for success after recovery from injury, but a third ACL injury has to lessen his chances.
Get your degrees, guys.
The coaches wouldn't bring him back for a potential 6th year and tie up a scholarship that can go with someone who is 17/18 with a lot more upside than a 23/24 year old who is always hurt.
I would advise both young men to take a step back and evaluate their situations. For some (I have no clue why even though I was one of them) they are prone to injury. They are young and have a lot of options in front of them. I ended up with my knees and hips replaced because I kept pushing (I'm not saying that's their fate) and now have struggled mightily through my 50s and 60s. But it is that push that keeps me upright and trudging. Looking back I should have backed off much sooner than I did.
Babb is just predisposed to these injuries. Feel bad for him, but his career is over. Three significant injuries within a two-three year span is not something you can come back from. Even if he can come back healthy, he has not even acclimated to the college game yet.
This is just awful news.
Fields of Dreams
Care must be taken when weight lifting. Explosive movements often exceed the tendons', ligaments', and even the muscles' capacity and have no place in a properly developed program. See the excellent work "Body by Science" of Dr. McGuff.
Is it your contention that these injuries happened either during S&C or as a direct result of Coach Marotti's actions? I get it that you're an expert in exercise physiology who absolutely cannot stand the S&C staff and program, but your relentless push of Dr. McGuff's work makes it seem like you're either the author, the editor, the publisher, the illustrator, or all four.
I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.
Hilliard might as well take a medical redshit
Idk why but this made me laugh a lot
Doctor: Eat these beets for dinner and you'll feel better by mid-morning.
Feel bad for our guys. Get well soon y'all.
I wish these two the best in their recoveries. Sucks to hear that their season and careers could be in jeopardy. Try to stay positive fellas!
"When you help someone up a hill, you get that much closer to the top yourself..."
Ok now... this is practice.may be going too hard???
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I took your suggestion and reviewed NBF's comments - a very few were critical of something or other, but nothing even close to over the top, and many more were positive. I don't get the "troll" appellation.
This absolutely sucks for Hilliard. 5* kid from Cinti St X. Quality kid. Where's Knarcisi ?
Right here, Martin. Why do you ask?
Man. This is so sad for both kids. Luckily for Babb, he still has time. Hilliard on the other hand...
I honestly can’t imagine how hard it must be for a kid to go from “i’m gonna make it in the NFL” to “I’m cursed”. I know that when I was that age, I wasn’t equipped to handle that.
"Man I wish everyone stop saying I beat a kid in the hospital 91-35.... It was 98-35, had 91 with 1:26 left in the 4th"
- Cardale Jones
Sad times for those two young men. shucks & smdh
I feel sick for Hilliard. Just terrible, terrible luck. I really hope Buckeye Nation gives him the support he deserves, he’s a class act and fantastic person.
Very sad. A good reminder for all these guys why going to class and graduating is important.
I feel especially bad for these two Buckeyes, as neither Justin Hilliard nor Kamryn Babb have had much luck fighting off injury in spite of their great efforts to get back on the field. Their grit and determination will be rewarded somewhere down the line if not on the field.
Not sure if it matters much at this point, but I heard a rumor somewhere else that Hilliard was recently granted a 6th year of eligibility before this injury even occurred. Might not be true, but it seems like these are true far more often than they are not.
I doubt this is true. I don't think they make decisions on medical redshirts until someone has totally exhausted his eligibility, which in Hilliard's case won't be until after next season.
And as mentioned above, there's no guarantee the Buckeyes would sign off on this. Not sure what policy Day will have, but under Urban freshman redshirts weren't getting that fifth year unless they had a clear role on the team. Hilliard is actually a bit fortunate he's still here. Every other 5th year senior on the team is either a starter, a possible starter (Alabi), or a primary backup with lots of game experience (Hamilton, Berry).
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
I didn’t think it made sense either, but I also thought Johnnie Dixon was getting the ol’ “medically disqualified” axe every year as well. It very well might not be true, just thought I’d pass it along.
Prayers that they both stay strong of mind and can completely heal.
Sometimes I wish the injury bug would share the wealth and stop picking on the same kids over and over.
Gonna miss Hilliard on special teams. Hope he gets a medical redshirt and finishes off his career as one of the best special teams players in school history. Probably a little too late for him to get meaningful snaps at linebacker. But at least he got to start one game for Ohio State, batting down an impressive three passes in the process. Not a lot of people can say that.
Wishing Babb and Hillard a full recovery.
feel very bad for both. Hard luck. The injuries that Babb has suffered are worse than Dixon. Three serious knee injuries in three years. Two to the same knee of this nature can be devastating. I remember the LB Berger a few years back out of Cleveland that suffered the same fate of two ACLs to the same knee. Dixon was afflicted to severe recurring tendinitis to both knees.
This sucks! Hoping both young men fully recover.
Our top WR in each class share a terrible history once they enter the program. This is why you can never take too many, and never count on the “crown jewel” of the class to take you to the next level or pick up the mantel of a departed star. I am sure it is just coincidence, but it’s a really shitty coincidence for our WR recruiting at OSU. I hope Wilson avoids a similar fate. That kid seems to be on another level completely.
Maybe from now on we can just call the first two WR each class co-number 2. This should fix the jinx of number 1.
Crap, heal well and fast. Rehab completely, even if there is no more football (hope that's not the case) there is a lot of life to live. Prayers you are able to stay after it with heads in the right place. If you need help, ask for it.
Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!
Can we see if L'Christian Smith has left campus yet? :(
It seems as if the team suffers just as many serious injuries in the offseason camps as they do during the actual season. I wonder if there is any pre-camp ramp up possible that could mitigate these?
Bad news for sure.
Keep your heads up gents, get healthy, and get your education...
16-2 is SWEET!
When he committed, I honestly thought Hilliard was destined to become a star at Ohio State. I'm very sad for the guy that it looks like an awful run of bad injury fate will have him never starting for us.
Feel awful for both of those guys. Don't know why it is, but some dudes just can't catch a break when it comes to injuries. Babb is still young and can bounce back, but that's 3 knee injuries now...can't afford more of those. Feel especially bad for Hilliard, because it is his last year.
Thank goodness these kids get a free education out of this deal. At least they will have that to fall back on if injuries ultimately derail their chances of playing in the NFL.
Class of 2010.
Hate that these guys have been dealt a bad hand of physicality. Curious if there's any plan B. Maybe taking on tasks and roles that might lead towards eventually coaching. Great knowledge and talent aren't always enough. Maybe going towards coaching might be a solution. Best of luck men.
It does not add anything to the conversation, just simply FFFUUUUCCKKKK!!!! I hate when young people playing the game they love are injured and particularly repeatedly!