If There Were No Tattoo Gate...

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bucknut1994's picture

If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle 

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Knarcisi's picture

What If both of their names were Pat?  Or Shawn?  Mind blowing, huh?

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TheDizzle's picture

Nah she'd be your tranny aunt

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CALPOPPY's picture

At least it’s not Shannon.

Memento mori

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Knarcisi's picture

LOL!  If Mami had balls she’d be my Poppy?

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58Buckeye's picture

If Poppy had balls, you wouldn't be a Mamma's boy!

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Sims_tOSU's picture

No idea but I would’ve loved to see Pryor with urban 

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BuckeyeinSavannah's picture

I've said that a few times and it would have been awesome.

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Knarcisi's picture

Not that I disagree, but Tressel doesn’t get the credit he deserves for his offensive strategy with his QBs. He was conservative by nature (choice), but could mold his offense around the strengths of his QBs. Krenzel, Smith, Boeckman, Pryor. You can’t get any different than those 4 stylisitically. Tressel was wildly successful with all of them. While a lot of guys had their system and recruited a certain style to fit it, Tressel changed his system around the skill set of his QB. That’s real offensive genius to me.  Yes, I realize I just called Jim Tressel an offensive genius. Again, don’t disagree with your take, just saw an opening for my comment here.  And you’re probably right, Pryor was probably more read option when other teams were going this direction before we were.  

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Coach Harry's picture

Great post ... 100% agree !!! It s one of the reason Tress has always been my all time very best ... He has unique ability to learn, teach and adjust . I will always remember the 2009 season, after the Purdue disaster Tress decided to rebuild Pryor s confidence with simple offense and during the bowl preparation, with more time to prepare, he opened up the offense ... I still smile today when i remember a ton of analysts saying that we had no chance ag. Oregon, no chance to control their offense, no chance to move the ball ... blah blah blah !!! except for their kick/punt returner Barner nobody was a threat ag. us on that day ... We controlled the whole game ... I think our offense controlled the ball more than 40 minutes .

It s just 1 example of how great Tress is ... For those who still say that Tress was not able to call an aggressive offense just look what he did with Troy Smith in full control ... Just watch the tape of the game of the century, we saw plenty of fireworks in that game .

Great was a great coach ... The best in my book !!!

Thanks for all Coach !!!

MACTE VIRTUTE !!! In Tress I will always trust !!!

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keith7456's picture

Pryor came to Ohio State because he specifically did NOT want to play in an offense like Urban ran. He wanted to play in a pro style offense that he hoped would turn him into a NFL QB.  Obviously that didn't work out for him, but I have a feeling that Pryor would not have wanted to play for Urban.

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stxbuck's picture

Yup, his recruitment was down to tOSU and scUM under Dick Rod-he wanted to sling the rock.

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Knarcisi's picture

I didn’t go check the time line, but did RichRod recruit him while still at WVU, as well?  Can you imagine the slimy NCAA violations that occurred there?

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TheVictoryBell's picture

We would’ve won the National Championship in 2012 at full strength imo. 

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

IF IF IF.  The only people that use the word IF are the ones that lost.  WE WON A NC 3 years after Urban was hired.  THAT's the only FACT we have.  Its all that matters.

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allinosu's picture

Yea, I was thinking if Cooper hadn't lost to UM so much, he'd be coach. 

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CALPOPPY's picture

Yep, I hated Cooper’s ineffectiveness against TTUN and in bowls, but our current run of success is directly a result of his failings. It was tougher on me (went to school during his tenure) but it’s been fun since.

I don’t mind the question, though. Would be a different team, now, that’s probably a safe bet. But I’m glad we’ve had two coaches that took us to a title, even though I wish we had even more.

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CharlieBuckeye's picture

Cooper - A coach who had so much talent. Yet when it came down to crunch time - he would have made a ton of money as the spokesman for Depends.... seems he always looked like he had a load in his pants when the chips were on the table.

God how I despise (yet loved nontheless) those years.

GO BUCKEYES!!!!!!

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Did you know that "IF" is the middle word in "Life"?

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So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

Did you know that the first and last three letters of "FIRE TRUCK" make the word that goes through your head right before you realize that you need to call for one?

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BrutusB's picture

Kelly was already coaching ND when Urban was in his last year at UF. That job hasnt been open regardless of when Tressel left. 

But would he have been interested in a different blue blood? USC fired Kiffin in 2013 and probably would have least called him. 

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

I suspect if there was no Tattoogate the following likely would have happened:

2011: With a loaded and experienced roster led by TP, Boom, Posey, and John Simon (and no off-field drama) we go undefeated, win the B1G title, and beat LSU for the national title (because we bumped Bama by going unbeaten)

2012: We dont go undefeated like we really did, mostly because none of the guys who led us in 2011 (Brax, Hyde, Philly, Devin Smith) got many snaps in 2012 because we were so senior-heavy. That wouldve hurt us in 2012. My guess is we finish 10-2 or 9-3, beat TTUN, and get a decent bowl game (that we likely lose)

2013: We finish undefeated with Braxton and Hyde in full beast mode. The defense is improved because we dont have Everett Withers as our co-DC in 2013. I think we squeak by Sparty in the B1G title game and face FSU for all the marbles. I think the Seminoles get the best of us in the title game, as much as it would suck seeing Crab Legs Jameis beat us.

2014: Before the season Tressel announces this season is his final season. Because Braxton didnt get hurt vs. Clemson like he really did, Braxton enters his senior year 100% healthy. However the problem is Tressel isnt the recruiter that Urban is so we dont sign Zeke (though we do get Joey Bosa to replace John Simon). Not having Zeke (and not having JT Barrett who went to Texas) our offense isnt as dynamic in 2014 and we struggle (Especially vs. Virginia Tech). We finish 10-2, beat TTUN, barely beat Wisconsin in the B1G title game (no Cardale throwing bombs) and we miss out on the first playoff (Baylor or TCU get our spot). We play an SEC team in the bowl game (Tressel wins and gets carried off the field by his players)

2015: Luke Fickell is named our next head coach (because the real 2011 never happened Luke has the benefit of the doubt this time). Urban didnt wait for Tressel to retire and after leaving UF took the ND job instead of Brian Kelly. That also means Zach Smith never becomes a coach at OSU and his stupid BS brings Urban down in South Bend.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

This was a long read but I'm glad I stuck it out.

I think if there were an alternate universe where Tattoogate doesn't exist, this is EXACTLY to the letter how it plays out.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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I'm Ron Burgundy's picture

Not sure why there are people downvoting this, it is definitely the most thought out and plausible take.  Interesting to think how some seasons could have been more successful but others not.  I'd almost be inclined to say it all worked out in the end because we got Urban and he won a NC, but if we could have done without the Tatoogate scandal and then the Zach Smith BS in this alternate universe, while still winning another NC under Tressel, I might have preferred that.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Why no Cardale Jones?  He was recruited by Tressell.

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buckeyearchie76's picture

This game of college football has changed so much from the era of Coach Tress.  Nobody ran the spread offense.  I won't say that Coach Tress would not have changed with the times.  We will never know that.  Urban--as successful as he was had to undergo some changes in his philosophy as well.  But, he had excellent assistants that helped him realize that certain things had to change.  But, even Urban wanted that quarterback to basically be a runner first---then a passer. He was a master of the read-option. Then along came Haskins and his tremendous passing ability and even Urban realized that this guy was not a great runner and we became more of the pro--type offense.  Everybody knows the offensive numbers he put up.  The only downside in the one year of Haskins was the defense had many problems and he needed to put up those kind of numbers.  College football will continue to change as the years go by.  So, far we have adjusted fairly well.  And I think Day will continue the trend.  But, we should be happy as well that we had Coach Tress and Urban to guide us the past few years.  GO BUCKS!

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stxbuck's picture

Did you watch the team in 06'-Tress spread em' out and produced a Heisman winning QB in the deal. All the people whining about JT "failing to adapt' are completely ignoring the last 5 years of his tenure at tOSU and pitching an interwebz fit b/c he didn't exactly what they wanted at the moment quick enough.

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BuckeyeCrusdader's picture

This game of college football has changed so much from the era of Coach Tress.  Nobody ran the spread offense. 

 I’m sorry but this is just beyond ignorant. Ohio States 2006 offense, UF, WVU, Texas Tech Air raid, Oklahoma, Oregon.... plenty of teams ran spread variations during the Tressel area. 

 
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stxbuck's picture

I heard rumors that JT was considering retirement a lot sooner than after the 14' season. If he had run the table in 11', there is a good chance he might have stepped down.

About the only thing I will conclusively say is that there is a strong likelihood Ryan Day would not be the HC of the Buckeyes for this season, seeing as how he is an offshoot of Urban Meyer's coaching tree-grad assistant at Florida in 05'.

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GoBuckswin's picture

I bleed scarlet and gray--great take year by year!

Btw, It does not seem fair that we had 13 years of Cooper and only 10 years of Tress and 7 years of Urban...

Bucks fans in Mass

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rkylet83's picture
  • 2011 - 10-2.  Loses to MSU and Wisconsin and win a BCS at large bid.
  • 2012 - 9-3.  Loses to MSU, Michigan and Wisconsin.  Win a lower level bowl
  • 2013 - 8-4.  Loses to Wisconsin, Iowa, Cal and Michigan.

The cracks were showing in 2010 and became fully apparent in 2011.  The offensive strategy required a freak athlete to overcome the poor offensive line play and good defenses (MSU) could handle a one dimensional QB.  Coach Tressel retires in 2014 and we probably hire Urban Meyer away from someone.  In my opinion the transfer happened at the perfect time to prevent us from witnessing the collapse.  

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stxbuck's picture

The OL was improving late in JT's tenure as coach-Mewhort 09' and Norwell-10'' are two of the most underappreciated Buckeyes-talent wise- in the history of the program, at any position.

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rkylet83's picture

Those guys didn’t become good until Warinner became offensive line coach.  Bollman would have ruined them.  

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You can't spell chump without UM's picture

If a Bollman-led offense beat Wisconsin in 2011, Tressel would've done the same.

Tom Brady lost to John Cooper. Never forget.

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Sanitarian2's picture

Cell phone gate also cost OSU a Natty, let us not forget. 

Sani

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Eph97's picture

What if Tressel had retired while Saban was considering quitting on the Dolphins and he came here instead of Alabama? Would he have had the same success?

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Toilrt Paper's picture

This is about the 10th time this has been brought up on here. My take remains the same. The tattoos for trinkets had NOTHING to do with Jim Tressel no longer being the head coach at Ohio State. His lies to the NCAA about what he knew, was his problem. 

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CALPOPPY's picture

It’s 6 one way, half a dozen the other.

If there were no trinkets for tattoos, then there would have been no Tressel lying to NCAA. It was a direct result of the issue.

And had there been the player issues, but Tressel hadn't lied about it, the JT would have been fine but the players would still likely been suspended.

Memento mori

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Toilrt Paper's picture

And he could have told the truth, as his facade had implied he would. Yet the reason for lying was that he knew suspended players would hurt his chances at another Big Ten Title and more. I loved JT, But who's to say, due to his track record in this instance, he wouldn't have been caught in other lies in the future AND had gotten away with others prior to tats for trinkets.  

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MaineStrength's picture

As a bit of an outsider, I am perplexed by Tressel.  Is the stand up high character guy he portrays to be or is he the best liar?   

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GoBuckswin's picture

TP-the "lying to the NCAA" was of course due to tattoo gate so it is all one and the same.

I think it is a very interesting question b/c there is a real question of how much more success Tressel would have had after 2010 and whether or not Urban would have ever coached for us which also impacts us going forward since Day likely would not be our coach in the alternative universe in which OSU does not appeal the original 5 game suspension for the tattoo 5 and thus never un-cover the e-mail from the rogue atty; who who e-mailed Tressell. 

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

Actually, the lying to the NCAA had more to do with certain players being paid to work for a certain excavating company in a certain suburb of Cleveland by a certain bagman while not actually pertorming any work than Tatoogate,  The NCAA approved the use of the players involved in tatoogate in the Sugar Bowl.  Don't let the NCAA kid you.  We did play and beat Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl.  And that happened because the President of the Sugar Bowl committee demanded that those players be made eligible for HIS game.  So Tressel's lying on the affadavit had nothing to do with Tatoogate.  That info was out there and the NCAA'ss actions exhonerated Tress of that with regards to the Tatoos.

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Lifetime45's picture

This will get down voted to hell but...... its not tattoogate.

its Tressel lied to the NCAA. The bitching and moaning  about how it should not be against the rules to sell your own stuff is moot. It WAS against the rules. Tressel knew it, lied and had to go.

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CALPOPPY's picture

I think that a lot of people agree with you about what got Tressel fired (the lying to NCAA), but he was lying about the tattoo issue.

They call it tattoogate because the tattoos scandal caused the issue for which Tressel lied. If they wouldn’t have done that then JT wouldn’t have lied to cover up, and wouldn’t have been suspended himself.

“Tattoogate” is just an easy way to say it.

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Lifetime45's picture

I understand it is any easy way to refer to the situation but i also believe it is an easy way to blame the NCAA rather than the guilty parties.

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

CP, you're wrong.  IT was players paid for non-work that snagged Tress.  If you remember, the affadavit that Tress signed is a standard process.  The NCAA had already allowed him to use ineligible players for the tatoos for bling violations.  That mitigated him form violating that affadavit.  The fact that its called tatoogate is jounalistic laziness.  kind of like the journalistic laziness we saw this past July and August.

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CALPOPPY's picture

CP, you're wrong.

OK. I’ll just be wrong.

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GoBuckswin's picture

If OSU had just accepted the 5 game suspension of their players from the NCAA and not appealed, then they do not under cover the e-mail from the lawyer to Tressel telling him about. That is why I don't think Gene Smith ever knew beforehand that Tresesel was aware of this issue. Had Smith been aware that Tressel had prior knowledge of the tattoo issue, he would not have appealed and nobody ever finds out that Tressel knew about it and our hall of fame coach gets to leave one day on his own terms instead of being forced out. 

   Btw, you can't tell me that some other schools (hello, SEC), would have NEVER self -reported an e-mail implicating their super star coach--they would have just deleated the damn e-mail and nobody ever is the wiser. 

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reddman22's picture

Thinking back to this only ticks me off more regarding this crap with NCAA bball with coaches on tape talking about paying players and them still getting to play/coach.  Whether it be Miller and Ayton last year for Arizona or LSU's Smart this year.... they get to just play it out and then gone to the league without real punishment.  SMH.
 

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GunnerBuck's picture

Hard to say what would have happened but I will say this with 100% certainty in my mind, it was a blessing is disguise. The game was getting past Tressel and while I absolutely hate the way it all worked out, we were transformed into a better program when Urban took over. The same can also be said about Urban retiring.

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GoBuckswin's picture

Gunner--I think the jury is still out on whether Urban retiring will prove to be a good thing. I will say if he ever comes back to coach he will take a good amount of the support staff w/ him and that will not be good for OSU. 

 Btw, a note on timing on the tattoo fiasco--shortly after that the Sandusky scandle happened at PSU. Had that happened prior to tattoo gate, I don't think the media makes as big a deal out of it and maybe Tressel survives. The Sandusky crimes really puts the tattoo-gate in proper prospective. We might have had a coach that lied about knowing that some players traded in their OWN property for cash and tattoos, but PSU had a coach that might have known and even help cover up horrible abuses by his 30 year DC. 

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CALPOPPY's picture

The Sandusky crimes really puts the tattoo-gate in proper prospective.

You mean that you think that the PSU fans wouldn’t have made the t-shirts that said legends (with JoPa glasses and shit) and liars (with a sweater vest)?

The shade they threw was real, and I was so happy to see them knocked on their ass. Tressel lied about tattoos, Paterno lied about child abuse.

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MaineStrength's picture

Tressel lied about tattoos, Paterno lied about child abuse.

Honest question, do we know he lied or did he just not do enough to follow up on what he reported?

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

If you ever saw the TV show MASH, there was an ongoing joke between the first commander and Radar, where Radar would come in with a stack of papers for Colonel Blake to sign and he would just blindly sign them after asking, "What am I signing, Radar?"  I always think of those scenes when this subject comes up.  Tressel was deemed to have lied on a routine affadavit that every head coach has to sign in the off-season that says that he didn't knowingly use any players who were defacto ineligible for actions that the NCAA deemed illegal.

No one knows if he read the fine print on that or not.  But like I said, I'd like to think he Colonel Blaked that affadavit,  Afterall, he had signed that thing at least 25 years in a row.

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GunnerBuck's picture

I honestly don't think it will matter. Whether Day is the guy or not, Urban was fast fading out of his prime. I really believe the decline was approaching. Not 6-6 or anything extreme but 9-3, 8-4, etc. 

I hate to say it but he's not Saban. He wasnt able to adapt to the game as it changed. 

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Toilrt Paper's picture

Allowing Ryan Day take over the offense and call HIS concept of what a 2020 college offense should look and break almost every record in the book doing so, wasn't "able to adapt" by Urban????

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GunnerBuck's picture

Did you just completely overlook the 2 years before hand? Or the QB's he favored in recruiting? The loyalty to shitty coaches? 

Urban "handed" Day the offense because he had too. It was painfully obvious that it was not Day's offense for the first half + of the season. If you didnt see that, you either didnt watch the games or don't know what you were looking at. 

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Toilrt Paper's picture

What is painful is your lack of vision to see that Haskins' had inexperience issues early in the season. Also your lack of hearing, when Day mentioned that. 

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Worthington Buck's picture

OSU under Tress any longer would have faded from being a national program, into a better version of Sparty.  It got to the point vs the SEC where we were all thrilled to just beat Arkansas.  Not Alabama, not even LSU or Auburn, but Arkansas.  Tress could not recruit with Urban or the SEC, I'm sure there would have been years where we made the playoffs with him, but the SEC and Clemson would curb stomp us into oblivion.  

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LCT's picture

Like, 31-0?

Lifetime vs. UM: L 9-1, C 8-0, T 5-0
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GunnerBuck's picture

Arkansas was damn good that year. Don't degrade that win just because it doesnt have staying power. They also beat LSU that year and only lost to Bama by 4 if I recall correctly and finished 2nd in the SEC. 

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jpfbucks01's picture

What would have happened with Tressel in 2011 with a loaded team will always be one of the great what if's.

BUt the timeline of Urban going to ND does not work out

December 10, 2009 - Brian Kelly is named HC at ND

December 26, 2009 - Meyer announces his "leave of absence" from UF, So Meyer had not left UF and Kelly had already been hired

December 8, 2010 - Meyer announces his retirement from UF - Kelly has already finished year 1 going 8-5 and would win a bowl shortly thereafter to show reasonable improvement over the previous 6-6 year

December 19, 2010 - OSU self reports what would become tattoogate, ie first real public knowledge of the issue - so Meyer had already resigned

So if Tattoogate never happens then Meyer likely is noever ND or OSU's head coach.

The more likely outcome is that Penn State hires Meyer as they fired Paterno that November and were looking. With the OSU and ND jobs off the board, PSU may have broken the bank to lure Meyer there.

But then again maybe not, remember Meyer's reputation back then was far from squeaky clean

So what other job in 2011 could have enticed Meyer?? Arizona who hired Rich Rod, ASU who hired Graham, UCLA who hired Mora and A&M who hired Sumlin were the next best bets.

My guess is Meyer waits another year as he doesnt want any part of PSU or these other rebuild jobs and with ND going to the National title game in 2012 ND is not looking to make a change

So what came open in 2012 that may have gotten Meyer off his couch??

Auburn!!!, They fired Chizick and hired Gus Malzahn, but probably would have been willing to kill a nun to get Meyer instead

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Toilrt Paper's picture

BTW, long before Urban talked to his wife Shelly about the Ohio State job. She said the moment she heard Tressel was fired she KNEW they were going to Ohio State, even though she and the kids LOVED the life in Florida. You don't think over the years, they had talked about how important the Ohio State job was to Urban. She knew Urban was going to do everything in his power to get the job if and when if opened up. 

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MaineStrength's picture

She knew Urban was going to do everything in his power to get the job if and when if opened up. 

I don't know how to lie or not be transparent, it's just not in my DNA.  But, I don't understand why Urban wouldn't be honest about that with the media when he retired and said he'd only go back to Florida.  Why not say something along the lines of "I'd consider going back to the right situation if my symptoms improve."  Correct me if I'm wrong, but he seemed to be misleading the Florida media & fans.  Why be ashamed to admit you love OSU and would love to work there?

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

They were never ashamed.  It was common knowledge that both he and Shelly had lucky Buckeyes in their pockets while beating the snot out of us.  Urban has always been less than transparent with the media.  This past July was nothing new there.  So he probably wasn't lying when he retired,  He was living in the moment.  And at that moment, it wasn't even a fantasy that his one all-time dream job was going to come open so quickly

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Toilrt Paper's picture

very simple answer to very simple questions, Coaches/ex-coaches of integrity don't run their mouths about what they want or where they want to go. 

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GoBuckswin's picture

Great analysis, JP Bucks! I don't know if Meyer would want to go back to another SEC team. Shelly had been quoted as saying he would only come back out of retirement for Ohio State. 

 It is possible that if there were no tattoo gate, Gene Smith and OSU might have had conversations w/ Meyer about how long he would stay in retirement until Tressel was done. They could then have gone to Tressel and said something like, "how about you announce you are coaching one more year and then lets have a seamless transition to Urban." They might have been able to go from one hall of fame coach to another w/ no 6-7 year. 

   Way before tattoo gate I remember hearing wispers that the powers that be at OSU wanted to lure Urban away from Florida, but did not know how to ask Jim Tressel, such a popular and successful head coach, to leave before he wanted...

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RK84's picture

I think he was setting one last run in 2011 with the guys he had. That teams was poised to challenge for the National Championship again. I think if he won that, he would have rode off into the sunset. Things happened, things worked out, ready to see the future with day.

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MaineStrength's picture

This is why you never how life will turn out.  Sometimes bad things lead to better things.  You lose a job only to find a better one.  IMO if Tatgagate never happened, OSU likely beats UM that year.  However, that also means Meyer probably never coaches OSU.  Tresell was a great coach, but Meyer took the program to an even higher level.  The real question is who would have succeeded him if he retired of his own accord.

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ApollosGYRO's picture

I’ll bite..

2011: We enter the season easily in the top 5 but we lost a lot on defense but we return so much on offense we get a pass. We go undefeated but Sparty’s defense gives us fits but we pull out a miracle in the B1G title then play/beat LSU in the Natty and Tressel does the “wahoo” to Les Miles’ face like he did in the press conference after they won in 2007-2008 season. Braxton gets quality reps as the #2 QB as does Carlos as RB #2.

2012: We enter the season barely in the top 10 as we lost a ton of NFL talent. Braxton and Carlos now run the offense with Smooth jazz as QB #2 and Hall/Dunn/Smith getting touches. We have several close calls and fans begin to call our offense predictable because we like to complain even if we are winning lol. We play Nebraska again in the B1G title and Braxton/Carlos go off. We play ND in the Natty and win back to back and destroy the Irish.

2013: We enter the season as #1. Braxton is the #2 Heisman favorite and just behind him is Carlos with Johnny Manziel leading all. Both Derrick Green and Mitch Trubisky are redshirting as Kenny G is still smooth and Jordan Hall/Rod Smith/Dunn are still solid backups. We go 13-1 as we fight off Sparty in the B1G (we hand it off to Hyde or Pryor stiff arms that defender on 4th down). Our defense is finally exposed and Winston beats us by 2 scores. After waiting patiently, Urban takes the USC job.

2014: We enter the season in the top 10. Braxton still ends up hurt similar to Clemson. Cardale/Mitch fight for it but Cardale wins the job with Rod Smith/Dunn/Green fighting for carries. We go 10-3 falling to VT, MSU, and PSU missing the B1G and but we play Tennessee and beat them as consolation (I HATE the vols). Sparty wins the B1G but doesn’t get to playoffs and its 1. Bama 2. Oregon 3. FSU 4. TCU. Bama goes on to win the Natty against Oregon. Tressel retires at seasons end and its an emotional goodbye.

2015: We enter the season outside of the top 10 and Fickell is hired as HC and we bitter fans are bitter we didn’t get Pat Narduzzi. Joe Burrow is now #3 QB behind Mitch and Cardale is back while Green transfers thinking he is better than this and Dunn and Smith are out so we have Weber and LJ Scott competition for the starting job. Both look stellar and Fickell plays the hot hand. We actually give our RB’s carries against MSU and we win by 2 scores. We go undefeated and beat Iowa in the B1G title band the playoff rankings are: 1. Clemson 2. OSU 3. Bama 4. Oklahoma. We take the title crown back against Clemson in a close game and Finebaum is just pleading for more SEC teams in the playoff. Finish 15-0 and Cardale goes pro.

2016: We enter the season top 5. Burrow takes over the job and Mitch transfers at seasons end but we struggle to find consistency and go 10-3 losing to PSU, ttun, and FSU. Playoff rankings go: 1. Bama 2. Clemson 3. Oklahoma 4. PSU. Clemson beats Bama and Finebaum defecates his trousers.

2017: We enter the season inside the top 10 with Burrow taking over and LJ and Weber are back and healthy. We become the hottest team by seasons end but miss playoffs losing a close one to OU and PSU but win the B1G. Playoff rankings: 1. Clemson 2. Georgia 3. USC 4. Bama. USC beats Bama for the Natty and Finebum soils himself again and states USC cheated. We win our rematch against OU and realize how bad their defense is. Weber and Scott both go pro.

2018: We enter the season just outside of the top 5 and angry. Baldwin is Burrow’s backup. Snead and Teague come in fighting for the job. We go undefeated and beat NW in the conference title and the playoff rankings are: 1. Bama 2. Clemson 3. OSU 4. USC. Clemson just shreds our secondary with Lawrence and then beats Alabama. Following the loss, Saban cries and quits and shortly after Finebaum resigns and blames Harvey Updyke for poisoning the trees. 04/01/2019 a major NCAA violation comes in against Bama for the cheating that occurred during Saban’s tenure and they get the death penalty and Greg Schiano accepts the head coaching gig for the 2020 season after the death penalty only for him to realize he wants to step down

2019: ….. If you read all of that, you earned a beer!

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CowCat's picture

Putting on my tin foil conspiracy hat here ...

During the 2010 TTUN game I attended with my father, an OSU professor. He claimed that the rumors were that the trustees were tired of Tressel's recent streak of losing big games and they wanted Urban Meyer. So in a way, the writing was on the wall. Tressel's loyalty to assistants like Bollmann didn't help either.

Meyer then retired from Florida in early 2011. He was in the broadcast booth, but technically available. I might sound crazy but it all adds up to me. Wait for Tressel to make a minor NCAA violation (checking one box on a form), then get rid of him. Don't go on a national search for a replacement head coach, make Fickell the interim head coach until they could agree to terms with Meyer.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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GoBuckswin's picture

I have heard that theory as well, Cow. However, we had a lot of suffering to get to be a position to hire Meyer. 

Bucks fans in Mass

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CowCat's picture

Well, Urban had already signed a TV contract. There was no way he was just going to take over the team suddenly in the spring of 2011. He's a smart guy who had the best winning percentage of all active Power 5 head coaches.

That said, I don't think Urban had anything personally to do with what happened to Tressel. He did take an active interest in OSU as a TV announcer, but that's natural. He was vocally critical of how Braxton Miller was being coached in 2011, but he was 100% correct.

I love Tressel for what he did, but he obviously had his weaknesses. Losing to USC in the Horseshoe when USC had a freshman quarterback was probably the final straw, but one could argue for the bowl loss to Texas as well.

In a microcosm Tressel was (gasp!) similar to how Harbaugh is now. Run the ball, play great defense and special teams. But when you face a team that can dump points on you quickly and you can't respond quickly, it gets ugly.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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