At first I thought the Cardinals were the new Browns with these rumors that they're taking Kyler Murray #1 overall. But now I'm starting to think the Giants might be the new Browns. Not giving up on Eli Manning? He's 38 years old! And he hasn't been good for years now. Even if you think theres gas left in the tank, there can't be much. I'm so happy its not my team doing these things anymore though.
I can't hate Fornelli's take. I think the majority of us are optimistic about the Ryan Day era but also realize that he's a brand new head coach and there will almost certainly be some growing pains in his first year or two.
Link about the real life mobster portrayed in the Godfather? That shits right up my alley. I'm gonna have to come back for that in a little bit. Gotta get to work.
It could be the Giant's front office is just not impressed with Haskins, I think thy're wrong.. They definitely have more problems than Manning, many Buckeye fans have mentioned that Haskins might get killed with that O line. And as far as OB goes I hope he works out for the Browns but I have questions about his attitude and whether he could be a disruptive force rather than the Star WR that many want..
It could be that they are bullshitting everyone. Honestly, don't believe ANYTHING you hear directly quoted from an NFL team pre-draft.
Or from ESPN
If you die before you die, then you won't die when you die.
Manning isnt the problem for the Giants.
Always and forever, Go Bucks!
All I'll say on the Giants, why would any team broadcast their intentions prior to making their pick? Especially those in the top 10. Maybe they were not getting enough phone calls about trading down?
One of my current work associates is from Brooklyn, he sounds so pathetic "i knew this one,knew that one, one line in Goodfellas is from me running into Dinero in a food court" ? Really, its like the wannabe gangster talking points. Anyone that has the proclivity to run their mouths sleep with the fish.
Nothing against a good party but St Pats day was never my thing. Just something about a silver haired old fart wearing a fake green plastic hat drinking green beer and slurring his words @ 8:22 am @ the closet irish pub that he goes to once a year. No thanks. Having said that, if you haven't tasted a good shepherds pie, you aint doing it right.
Best I've had Briny's @ Pompano Beach, just take Atlantic Boulevard Pompano, go east till you dead end @ the beach, thats Briny Avenue lol. I use to live next door on the 24th floor.
I read very few of the link locker stories, they turned into neverending stories down rabbit holes. Then im late taking the dog out and later getting to work later than intended (yeah im that old guy that comes in early, leaves late out working you young more energetic snowflakes, the ones that actually take real sit down 61 minute lunches) real professionals eat in between appointments with real food from home, sandwiches that can "Safely" be devoured during your windshield time, chips in a sandwich bag etc. Having said that, the article about Carlos,"You have to answer for Sonny Carlo", "Mike you got it all wrong".]
Kevin, did my answer on twitter (thick&thin) help you out or did you lose the bet. Anytine you have a question about old school slang, I'm your guy, in exchange for a pre-game round @ 8:15 am @ the Varsity Club before skull session for the 19 psu game, just kidding, anytime buddy.
Ok fellow dubbers have a great week and arrange your Friday around the slaying Iowa State. Bucks win an ugly one 49-47 to advance. I have a feeling March madness is going to be insane with upsets, especially seeing how many pac 12 teams made it.
MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS
Paul Prudhomme has the best recipe I ever tried and his spicy beef gravy is killer. Just two of the great recipes from my favorite cook book (remember them) of all time Louisiana Kitchen.
Our people are everywhere, Esto Dignus.
Have his cook book as well. Bought a cast iron frying pan just to do blackened fish. I'll never forget the recipe "you can never get the frying pan too hot",lol,and do not do it inside your house.basically his recipe after the seasoning, table spoon of butter on one side and repeat, no oil. My wife doesn't like spicy food so after cooking snapper in garlic & butter, i just add prudhomes blackened seafood magic seasonings after its cooked.
There are a couple possibilities here on the Haskins front.
The Giants could be blowing smoke so they won't have to attempt to trade up to get Haskins.
The Giants could be keeping Manning this year figuring they will tank and take the best QB in next year's draft (won't end up being better than Haskins).
The Giants, after the Cardinals take Murray at #1, will trade their #17 pick to the Cardinals for Rosen.
Will be interesting to see how this shakes out. Really don't see Murray working out in the NFL but who knows...
I don't understand how people don't bring up that Kyler Murray was only a 1-year starter as well... if they're using it against Dwayne, who seems to be more cerebral, why aren't they bringing it up against Kyler?
Until he measured half an inch taller than we expected at the combine, he wasn't even being considered a lock for the first round. There are already enough knocks against his game for the NFL to need to bring up the fact that he's a one-year starter. Pretty much everyone aside from Cliff Kingsbury's mom thinks the Cardinals are making a bad choice.
Hey, it takes a lot of commitment to be as inept as the Brown's were for so long. Let's not throw that around and remove the pride Cleveland as come to feel about it.
Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever. -Falco
If I were a Giants fan, I'd be walking straight into the ocean with bricks glued to my feet, because between this decision and signing Golden Tate to a $37.5 million deal immediately after trading away Odell Beckham Jr. for a bad safety and draft picks, I have absolutely no idea what the franchise is doing anymore.
The Giants have bought the rights to be called the factory of sadness.
Yeah it’s disappointing.
We included it in our trade with them when we canceled the pick swap.
If the Giants have an ounce of intelligence they will grab Haskins or even move up to ensure it. Haskins can have time to learn before being sent to combat. Great Skull Session Kevin.
Great Skully, Kevin!
One question, as I am a bit of a Twitter luddite: is that boss Schlegel autographed photo Doss’, or does it belong to someone else? I think it’s the former, but I’m not sure Schlegel coached Doss’ teams. They’re both OSU family, so I get that may not matter, but just curious.
The only thing that's new in the world is the history that we have forgotten.
Doss was drafted Schlagels first year at Ohio State
Thanks! They say memory is the first thing to go in aging, and I guess I am starting to believe that’s true.
Tom fornelli’s article is baseless. So Urban and Haskins are gone, B10E is always viewed as the tightest Divisuon in college football, blah, blah blah.
But again, Buckeyes are the only team in the B10E that have improved year over year, except Maryland too.
Out chances and odds are way better this year than last year to win the division, B10 and NC.
Fornelli's article is click bait. Alabama and Clemson were not going to be on this list (unless the NCAA does something out of character and comes down hard on them for steroid use). Georgia has no real competition in the SEC East and Oklahoma is in a pretty weak conference. Now, if you were a writer looking for readers to click or comment on your article, are you picking Utah, Washington, or Ohio State?
I don't think it's click bait. The choice was actually between Washington and Ohio State - Utah is on his list up at #3. Really, we're just arguing about whether Ohio State deserves to be #5 or #6.
Alabama, Georgia, and Clemson all towered over their respective divisions last year and return proven QB's. Oklahoma only needs to finish first or second to make the conference title game so they're set nicely as well. I don't see any serious argument that a team with a brand new and mostly unproven head coach, brand new and mostly unproven QB, a completely revamped defense, playing in the toughest division in college football should be ranked behind any of those other teams.
And I don't think there's much argument about the four teams ahead of Ohio State either: Pittsburgh, Northwestern, and Utah all had decent-not-great records and could easily be passed in their division, while Texas improved drastically last year and could easily fall to third or fourth with even a little bit of regression. We can argue about the order, but I certainly wouldn't bet on any of them repeating as champs; if you told me each of these teams go 8-4 and finish third in their respective divisions, I wouldn't blink an eye.
Washington is the real comparison here for Ohio State and it's an interesting discussion. They lose two solid-but-unspectacular offensive stalwarts (Gaskin and Browning), but both of them are replaceable. They lose a bit on defense, as usual, but have consistently reloaded on that side of the ball. And none of the teams in their division jump off the page as sure things. So I think you could make a decent argument either way on this one - I personally believe Ohio State is probably more likely than Washington to repeat, but given how close the B1G East perennially is (even going 11-1 is't a guarantee!), I can't really disagree strongly about it.
Theres a solid chance we regress this year. New QB, new HC, mostly new defensive staff, etc. I believe the spectrum of possible outcomes is broader than it has been recently. That being said, do i think we lose 3 games or more? Hell no, but it wouldnt be the craziest thing ever
Interesting, I actually feel better about this team than last years. And believe this team would beat last years team H2H, and last years team finished #3. All while the rest of the B10East (except MD) has gotten worse year over year.
Thats how I judge a team. Can this years team beat last years (and where did last years finish)?
I want to agree with you but i need to see it on the field first. I think the D will improve but will the offense keep up?
Have you watched footage of Justin Fields at GA and in HS? I feel much better about Fields now than i did Dwayne Haskins last year. Fields legs will always be able to bail him out of trouble.
Ive also seen footage of HS studs that never quite put it together at this level.
Were also losing a lot of expirience on the Oline, most of the WR production and half our starting RBs
Did you watch Fields film at UGA? He's a stud dude.
No doubt O Line is rebuilding, but weve recruited great over past 5 years running now. Dobbins would start anywhere in the B10 this year, loving our returning WRs and Garrett Wilson is a star in the making.
Love the optimism and agree we have the potential for sure. In October we will see how much of that potential is showing up on the field. I hope all we imagined now and more! Go Bucks!
You're absolutely right. We've been spoiled with our diamond-in-the-rough find in Tressel and the rock-star hire in Urban. We had the worst defense Columbus has seen in my lifetime and we're losing Haskins and Weber on offense. Sure, Fields will probably be good and Day handled his 3-game audition well enough, but we struggled mightily at times last season. The talent gap wasn't enough to roll over Penn State or Maryland - not to mention the Iowas and Purdues of the world - and the coaching talent is largely unknown for us to call a division title a sure thing this year.
Think about what you said in your second sentence and we finished #3 in the country last year w that horrible Buckeye defense.
Fields will be way better than just good. The talent gap for tOSU is there and continues to grow. Seriously, only MD got better w tOSU in the B10 East. All others have major drop off.
Sure. New coach and new QB, coming off a program-worst defensive showing. No one outside of Columbus sees that as an upward trend. We finished #3 on the backs of Haskins and Meyer. They're gone. And they've been replaced by question marks. Kindly pump the brakes on crowning them champions of any kind in March.
Day a new Coach and Fields a new QB? LOL, OK.
This years defense would stop a 1 dimensional Buckeye passing offense of last year. Reason why Schiano is gone and we have 10 returning D starters. Justin Fields has a great arm and runs like TP at 6-3. Watch his footage, because he blows by DBs and LBs and looks like he is barely running. And to consider Fields a new starter isnt really acurate.
And last years offense would have more trouble against this years Buckeye defense.
The only question for me is Urban is THE BEST v AP Top 25 (even better than Saban). Does Day have that same game day magic, only time will tell, Urban thinks Day does. But he certainly has same/better talent than Urban did last year.
Getting rid of (so-called) LB coach Billy Davis is a plus. Replacing Grinch and Schiano is also good.
Hey, CFB articles have to be churned out 365 days a year and if it's a little controversial, so much the better. And, if it turns out not to be even close to reality, no one will remember by that time LOL. The bucks lost a legendary head coach and a once-in-a-generation QB, so lazy journalism takes over and takes the easy way out. However, I think both Fields and Day are being underestimated as well as changes to the defensive coaching staff.
The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes
It's not baseless. And he's not saying he thinks we won't repeat... In fact he implies in the article that we probably will repeat. He's just saying of the champs from last year, we have more questions than the others, and we do.
I do think Washington would have been the obvious choice, but that would get fewer clicks.
I'm just saying it's not baseless.
While I'm not completely against Tom's article. He made one comment that I do not agree with. You can't compare anything to the 2011 season because it was a unique circumstance that Day is not going to be facing. Fickell took over in 2011 a team with 4 starters suspended and Pryor leaving for the supplemental draft. That is a good bit of the offensive fire power that is out for 5 games. The biggest hinderance to 2011's success was the fact that Fickell decided to start Joe Bauserman over Braxton Miller. Had Miller been the starter all year, I think the 2011 team wouldn't have been as bad as it was. Bauserman was simply one of the worst QBs in the history of Ohio State.
If you look at the game logs that year, you will notice the games that Miller attempted more passes than Bauserman they won and the ones Bauserman attempted more passes they lost.
It always seems impossible until it's done.
I hope Thad gets a good job somewhere and has another chance at doing what he loves to do. He deserves it, if in fact he stills wants to coach. I doubt he will find the recruiting "cesspool" any different today though.
I just hope he holds out for something better than UNLV. They have been a pretty sketchy program over the years.
My aim, then, is to whip the Weasels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. - William Tecumseh Sherman (with apologies)
UCLA is rumored as a coaching spot for him. That would be a pretty good program to coach at. Just hope he doesn't go after all the stupid celebrity sons like the previous coach did.
BENGALS!!---been saying all along that the Bengals and Haskins need each other! First, Andy Dalton has one year left on his contract. Dalton has been a good quarterback--but not great. Bengals will not give him the big money that other veteran NFL quarterbacks are getting. Haskins gets a year of training under him. Favors Haskins----developmental period. NFL and Bengals----bottom line is money. The Bengals averaged 20,000 empty seats last year--and they need to start filing them. Dwayne would be the most hyped up Bengal in years. Jerseys, shirts, autograph sessions would all be in play and that should help to sell tickets as well---that favors the Bengals! My opinion---Haskins and Bengals equal a perfect fit. And from a fans viewpoint, a decade of Browns and Mayfield and Haskins and the Bengals might again rekindle the "Battle of Ohio" rivalry that was so great for so long!
For his sake, I hope not. That ownership/team is has been consistently on the wrong side of average so long, they don't know how to win.
You could be describing both teams that reside in Ohio.
Yep, but my Brownies are finally turning things around. They've at least tried.
The Bengals have made some major changes though. Firing Marvin Lewis and hiring Zac Taylor was a huge change that shows the Bengals are interesting in improving. Zac Taylor is a former QB and a pretty good QB coach so Haskins would have that on his die, plus Zach Taylor has hired what looks like a pretty good coaching staff.
The Bengals know how to win moreso than the Browns though at least in the 21st century comparing the number of AFC North titles and playoffs appearances.
My Bengals will not do anything that makes sense. HAHA
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
I don't know. The firing of Marvin Lewis and the hiring of Zac Taylor is quite an interesting change. It's an outside the box hire for the first time in how long? Normally the Bengals just promote staff up the chain but this was an overall change and I'm curious to see what happens. At least we have a breath of fresh air in Cincinnati and not the long term stale air of Marvin Lewis.
If you give two shits about Haskins and his potential career, you should pray he doesn't end up in Cincinnati.
Assuming the Giants don’t draft Haskins, as a Giants and Browns fan, I will be Browns only until Gettleman is fired.
I like the thought of D-Train in Miami. That seems like a great spot, especially if Dan Marino is around and willing to help him work on his pocket presence.
Plus, his QB Coach, Quincy Avery isn’t too far away (GA).
Fields of Dreams
The one issue I have is that he compared this situation to 2011, but at the same time, I also don't think he actually expects it to be anything close to similar. He just tossed out a recent cautionary tale about how things can go from great to bad quite quickly
This also totally ignores the fact that we had the worst offensive coordinator in the world basically doing whatever he wanted that year (hey Jim Bollman). Now we've got 2 of the best offensive minds in the game on staff, so I don't think we're gonna see 2011-levels of shit here.
"Why be around average?" - UFM
I'd give you multiple helmet stickers for that comment if I could!
So the huge free agent deals in the NFL are a farce. Go figure. It was interesting however to read that even though it is listed as "guaranteed money", often times that is actually a club option. Seems to make a lot more sense to me the way MLB does it where it actually is listed as an option year, which by definition is most certainly not guaranteed.
The New York Football Giants must be dim if they are keeping Eli to begin with, but maybe not looking at Haskins. He will be fine wherever he ends up, as long as he isn't thrust into a starting job day one.
I do not like the BasketBucks chances vs the Clones, but stranger things have happened.
"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen. I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie
I have my doubts about the Buckeyes beating the Cyclones but they are in the prime upset seed which is the 11/12 seed area. So they have history on their side, but I'm with you in that I don't like their chances against the Clones.
SI saw Fornelli’s take and didn’t have any issue with it either.
The B1G East is the toughest division in college football. In 2015 and 2016, one loss was all it took to keep OSU from winning the division. In 2018, it came down to one play where Maryland’s QB just missed a wide open receiver on the two-point play - he makes that throw and it doesn’t matter what happens in The Game.
The margin is just so razor-thin that arguing Ohio State is in the middle of the pack in terms of “likelihood to repeat”...well, that seems like a fairly reasonable view - you’re kidding yourself if you don’t believe something like “11-1, lost division on tiebreaker” is very possible.
In fairness, Maryland had a lineman 5 yards deep in the endzone when that pass was thrown and no flag was thrown for having a lineman down field. So in the immortal words of Rasheed Wallace, "Ball don't lie motherfucker"
It's a fair take. We have more questions than last years team at this time last year, plus an inexperience first time coach. One factor in his pics are the strength of schedules and OSU does have a tough row to hoe. If you HAD to pick 5 then OSU should be on it.
Give me Ohio state vs the field in the big ten east. Period.
Also it appears the giants just always want to be awful
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
Giants won the Super Bowl in 2007.
12 years, and 3 coaches ago, and at least 1 new GM that I know of... Ago.
Couple years ago when they got a bunch of big name free agents and they were trendy SB picks. Now they are blowing that team up this year and tanking for next year. Dwayne isnt a good QB for a bad team.
super bowl win in 2012 as well.
Ahhhh, that little farce you played with my sister, you think that can fool a Corleole?
Do you mean Corleone?
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
Let him go. He's on a roll.
"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott
I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.
Plenty of positive Buckeyes news abound to start the week.
Nice link on Gianni Russo, he's had quite a life beyond The Godfather.
I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...
Yes. Enjoyed The Godfather/Gianni Russo link. Have a vacay coming; thinking I have found a read for it.
"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody
Same here (minus the upcoming vacay). I read that article and went straight to amazon to order his book. I don't know why but that old school gangster/mafia type stuff just fascinates me and I can't get enough of it.
1. There is not a scintilla of doubt in my mind CBS did it to get clicks. It is ludicrous to compare a Ryan Day with a full offseason of preparation and three games as a head coach with a Luke Fickell promoted on Memorial day and saddled with a Walrus-led offense.
2. How did anyone with a mob background get a casino license in the 1980s?
3. Thad's back issues aren't going away. You don't regenerate nerve tissue. I remember the story about his wife having to take his socks off. The high chair court side wasn't a prop.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.
Until we walk in another man’s shoes—and in this case, that literally means Matta’s—we aren’t qualified to know how his health is effecting his job performance. We can only guess. Personally, I believe Thad was in so much pain, it impacted everything he did, including recruiting. When he was let go, I’d be willing to guess a big part of him was relieved, that a terrible burden had become unbearable had been lifted off his back.
Haskins escaping the Giants seeems like a Win at this point!
ONE Not Done!
But Haskins would own New York if he goes there and does his thing.
Hey, for once the Buckeyes are in and Bama is out. So we got that goin for us which is nice.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
The NIT could bring another Bama v Clemson final......
Saturday is Student Appreciation Day, and it's turining into a B1G recruiting Day too. IF you're an OSU student, go appreciate the Buckeyes!
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— 0J4 (@julian_040) March 17, 2019
Thad Matta doing the city of lights? Yea. He will be ok. Alford couldn't fit. Thad can fit.
Ryan Fitzpatrick is proof you don’t have to be very good to get rich in the NFL. He’s 50-75-1 as a starter, 148 INTs, 245 sacks, seven teams in 14 years (soon to be eight), 4-8 as a starter the last two years in Tampa. He’s the poster child for the term “journeyman” and the perfect guy to have on the roster while you groom a first round pick because he’s not going to be taking Miami anywhere.
Fitzpatrick is the modern day John Kitna.
And both played for the Bungles, who can claim setting the standard for QB mediocrity across generations.
So you're saying Andy Dalton is not Tom Brady? /s
I’m not sure what the rules on this might be - if I breach them feel free to delete.
One of the adds on the site showed what looked like a pair of $500 Italian shoes. I thought they were nice & the company has photos of shoes that are really nice, design-wise. Then I saw the price they asked set at $50. It wasn’t really necessary for me to read the company’s reviews; however, it was quite entertaining. I don’t think I’ve ever seen multiple reviews by people mentioning a product’s smell before when smell is not a design feature.
I’ve never seen the ad you’re talking about so it’s possible you’re being retargeted. If you buy those shoes, though, be sure to wear them with polyester pants; that way, everyone will compliment your shoes while assuming the noxious stench is coming from your crotch.
It seemed from the reviews that the company borrows photos of high quality shoes from legit producers & then produces severely low quality knock offs. They aren’t Italian.
The ads you see virtually anywhere on the internet are custom tailored for you based on your browsing history. (Or the browsing history of whatever computer you're using) 11W has nothing to do with it
I was at the game when Schlegel slammed that guy! I saw it coming the whole way and it was hilarious LOL!!!
I don't see haskins getting past Elway if he is available, everyone is enamored with next years class and some of those guys could regress or get injuries; sometimes these GM's can't get out of their own way
He does seem a bit like Elway with more touch & less wheels.
Even though Coach Holtman was coach of the year last year, I think this year's performance was even better. Last year he had senior leadership and guys who could score, including a go-to clutch player. This year has been a roller coaster. To keep them playing hard when these young guys could have easily phoned it in is a great accomplishment. They definitely overachieved.
The future looks bright for the basketbucks!
The talk about Thad Matta hating the "recruiting cesspool" — there's truth to that description, but I notice nobody ever calls it that when you're recruiting well. Matta had a weak staff, everyone got lazy and complacent, and terrific Ohio players we never gave a sniff to ended up contributing to other top programs. There are current examples of previously fired coaches having amazing success (Rick Barnes and, shockingly, Kelvin Sampson), but if I were thinking of hiring Thad, I'd need to know he was able and willing to perform the sales part of the job.
The only reason I can come up with as to why the Giants might not be interested in Haskins relates to my experience watching Pat Shurmur offenses: he may think Haskins isn't good enough at throwing backwards and sideways passes.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
Re: Haskins and the Giants: Why would you believe anything an NFL executive has to say in the weeks leading up the the draft?
Calling my shot now: Haskins to the Giants at 6.
Regardless of what you ascribe the decline of Thad's program to, decline it did. I don't see how he can now do what he wasn't able to do the last few years of his OSU tenure. Great guy and I wish him the best but his back problems were a huge part of the decline of OSU under his watch.
I tend to agree in this particular situation, but a change of venue is sometimes l a coach needs to get reinvigorated.
I get that “a lot” of our fan base are “football only” fans... but comments like some of the fan base being indifferent to the basketball team being in the ncaa tournament irks me to the point ...
...to remind some of our fans that having a chance to win the tournament is not the only aspect of enjoyment for the tournament...
...Becuase if I applied that logic to football... since we had zero chance to win the national title by playing in the rose bowl... we should have been indifferent to any bowl game not in the playoff.
Winning the Rose bowl at least put us in the top 3 at the end of the season, and was some mild form of justification for being left out behind Notre Dame, who should not have been there. At least an argument could be made for OU. I digress.
fans not caring about the NCAA tournament when there is no realistic shot at winning really just highlights the main difference between college hoops and college football. The difference between every game meaning something on one hand and being able to lose 8/10 games for the final stretch of the season and still get an invite to the tournament on the other. Many sports fans in general don't pay any attention to college basketball until March at all for that reason.
IMO the best thing that could happen to Haskins is to drop and get drafted by a franchise with a brain - like NE or Pitt. No thanks on Cincy or the Giants. Miami maybe.
The Bengals supposedly released Burfict today. The organization has some brains. Unfortunately they are the size of peas...
He better not get picked up by NE until Brady is ready to retire. He'll force the trade after a few practices watching that arm in action.
Although with the trouble Kraft might be in, that franchise might not be what it currently is very soon.