Considering Vegas now has the browns tied with the ravens as 2nd most likely AFC north team to win the super bowl, I'll go with the bet that Browns win AFC north with a top 2 seed is more likely than tOSU wins the NC.
Browns winning AFC north vs tOSU making CFB playoff tho, I probably take the latter.
With everyone that’s left the Ravens D, I find it hard to believe they are still a contender for the North.
Yeah, well…that’s just like, your opinion, man.
They've not done a lot the last 48 hours and look who they've lost.
See you in Indy !!
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
Seattle Sounders 2019 MLS Champions
Never bet the house on the Browns. Never.
Never bet anything on the Browns. JUST DONT DO IT
Be pleasantly surprised and accept that.
Dont throw money away on something that just creates more misery
Shake it off Joe, come out of the darkness its so warm out here in the light. I have said it before, this is the most excited I have been for the Browns since the play before the Fumble. They just traded Jabrill for OBJ.....THEY JUST TRADED JABRILL FOR OBJ.
That being said its hard for me not to believe Baker might lose his hand to a bowling ball retrieval accident but until that happens I’m all in....for now
I would not bet the house on the Browns, but the rest of the AFC North has regressed:
--The Steelers lost their two best offensive weapons and struggled last year. Plus, Ben is not getting any younger.
--The Ravens lost a lot to their defense and I think defenses will be ready for Lamar Jackson this year--just make him throw!
--The Bengals, well, they are the Bengals. They haven't done anything in free agency and they will Bengal things up as usual. (Disclaimer: I'm a long-suffering Bengals fan)
That leaves the division ripe for the picking for the Browns. Not sure I'd bet they will have a first round bye, but I think they will win the division.
You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!
Probably shouldn't ever bet on Cleveland.
I'd put my money on the Browns... If not for a few wonky games they could have won the division last year and they've added some fantastic pieces with more salary cap to get even better. Bengals are a mess, still not sold on Lamar Jackson so that leaves the Steelers.. I'm not sure the Steelers scare anyone at this point. Browns also have the 23rd "toughest" schedule next year... playoffs seem very likely..
Weird correlation. One team needs to win it all, the other it’s division.
The soldier is my son. The school I gone to didn’t teach much grammar.
One team has won it all more often recently than the other has won its division.
Pray for potatoes with a hoe in your hand.
Considering the track record of both, is it really a stretch?
It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.
Buckeyes. The Browns will rue the day they acquired OBJ.
Lifetime vs. UM: L 9-1, C 8-0, T 5-0
Ohio State University President Jim Tressel
maybe - the real question is whether it is a worthwhile risk. Liking the move here and hoping it works out for the best.
That said, the road to the AFC North is far easier than the road to a Natty, even if Beckham does not play a down
This is a forum post from a site member. It does not represent the views of Lamplighter LLC unless otherwise noted.
peidiwch â ffycin gyda'r Cymry
I do give the Browns credit for rolling the dice. This was bold.
I'd take OBJ over Peppers 100 time out of 100 just on principle alone. And yes, I know it wasn't a straight up trade. I'll still take it.
Pain of Discipline
Pain of Regret
Take Your Pick
I think you're on to something here, addition by subtraction-wise.
The Browns will rue the day they acquired OBJ.
Perhaps over time, but I'm anticipating a big year for him as he tries to make the Giants look like idiots for letting him go.
Shandy is not beer
And you're really only tied to him until 2020 if he self destructs.
And you're really only tied to him until 2020 if he self destructs
I never understand why people say that in regards to NFL players. Those contracts aren't guaranteed. They're not tied to him at all if he doesn't perform. Yes, they would have a 1 year hit against the cap for half of his salary for that upcoming year but there isn't nothing that truly binds them to him if he doesn't do well and they end up releasing him. Of course you don't want to just release him because of what was spent to get him but he's a worker and don't think that would be the case.
Now, with your point, it's not so much the 2020 timeframe but that NYG paid for most of his money upfront, particularly that $20 million signing bonus. The Browns are only paying him like $14 to $15 million a year, which from what I read is similar to what Sammy Watkins if making. I think it's quite the bargain for the Browns in that aspect.
"Everything you see on the internet is true." - Abraham Lincoln
Specifically in regards to money and money against the cap. They got a sweetheart deal with a potential legend for Cleveland sports.
Where’s the “Neither” option; Lol! Just kidding just kidding, I think!
I think the Browns easily with the north, but I think with the Chiefs and Patriots out there, a first round bye isn't likely.
Give me the Bucks.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
I would say the more likely scenario is the Browns win the AFC North. I do think the Buckeyes will make the playoff, I just don't see them on the same level as Clemson or Alabama.
"In America, anyone can become president. That's the problem." George Carlin
I'll say Browns here...or at the least a season sweep over the Stillers.
The Browns are dead to me. DEAD! Dead, I tell you!
You win with people.
Enjoying daily the back to back ttun beatdowns.
I’m trying not to be a prisoner of the moment, but I’m going to go with the Browns anyways. If it were, to win the B1G and win a game in the playoffs I probably would of went Buckeyes
2x account suspension survivor
Perhaps a better "bet the rent" would have been:
Buckeyes go to the cf playoff -- or Browns go to NFL playoffs? Channeling Coach Mora: "are we talking playoffs, PLAYOFFS?!"
I am a big time Browns fan and dealt with their whole history but at the end of the day I will always be skeptical of them and their chances, so I would have to go Buckeyes.
Who wins more games, Bucks or Browns?
Browns win AFC north. Getting past Alabama or Clemson is way more difficult and unlikely. Us making the CFB playoff would be an even bet that I would place on the Buckeyes.