Interesting that the Cincy and Dayton kids aren't warm on the Bearcats.
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Trotwood has been a Xichgan school for a while, The Dayton Daily does a top local prospect section every so often and it seems that if there's a Trotwood kid listed That school up North is listed as the team to beat in the recruitment.
Even with Jeff Graham as coach. Man.
Maybe Jeff needs to change the helmet decals up. Can look a little like the scum helmet.
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Cincy and Dayton kids know UC will always be there-a good backup plan. They aren't flipping their lids over the Bearcats in public-that's how cruitin' really works-everyone loves LSU and Clemson in April, when reality begins to sink in, UK and UC make their moves.
Prized recruits, much like those GD pokemon... Gotta get em all!
And if they're in-state, that's all the better.
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Correction....Sam Rengert is from Fairbanks, Milford Center is the town affiliated with the school though the school is not in Milford Center
Does Mike Drennan have an offer?
He does have an offer
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Lachey at 6'6" and only 215 needs to add some muscle. Keeping tabs on his development.
Good point. I'm 6'4" and 205. I'm relatively skinny. That boy needs to gain weight in a healthy way to play football at the college level.
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Good genes though. I wouldn't bet against him plus some time with Coach Mick.
Needs the Darron Lee chocolate milk and peanut butter sandwich diet.
The offseason is the longest season.
Speaking of Lee, he may be eating peanut butter sandwiches with Skyline Chili soon.
Watched him play basketball tonight in regional semi. He is an impressive athlete. Not incredibly quick but fast, good hands, threw down a couple dunks.
Thomas looks a lot like Julio Jones
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I think recruiting OH is important.
However, is it me or do some of these recent commits appear to be more like MAC talent than elite that we have been use to recruiting under Urban.
I don't want OSU to lose the national brand it has earned and built only to revert to regional recruiting because it is easier.
Not worried but getting a little uncomfortable.
Buckeye since 1952.
However, is it me or do some of these recent commits appear to be more like MAC talent
I'm assuming you are talking about Jakob James and Trey Leroux.
James sports offers from the following P5 programs - Boston College, Duke, Indiana, Iowa State, Kentucky, Louisville, LSU, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Tennessee and West Virginia.
Leroux sports offers from the following P5 programs - Indiana, Kentucky, Pittsbugh, Purdue, Rutgers, West Virginia.
So no. They do not appear to be more like MAC talent.
Ok, but those P5 offers aren’t Alabama, Clemson, etc. They are mostly mid-tier P5 at best. When it comes to 3* guys, people here always say to look at their offers. Well, I am and the offers are underwhelming too. What am I missing?
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The OSU coaching staff’s evaluation of their talent?
I’m guessing they feel a 3 star will fill a need and has untapped potential when they offer and are not hung up on recruiting ratings.
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These kids are from Ohio-not North Carolina or Georgia or Louisiana-Bama and Clemson offer (and sign) plenty of kids in their geographic region that tOSU doesn't offer b/c it isn't worth tOSU's time to beat their heads against the locals, when there are Ohio/Midwest/East Coast kids that are just as good as the kids Clemson offered from NC or Georgia. If a kid is a national talent, like Jackson Carman or Henry Gray, everyone will offer.
Clemson has 4 OL commits-2 Georgia, Kentucky,NC- that tOSU didn't sniff-why-b/c the 3 Ohio commits for the Buckeyes are just as talented-but were naturally more inclined to Columbus.
Ok, but those P5 offers aren’t Alabama, Clemson, etc. They are mostly mid-tier P5 at best.
Okay but he didn't ask "Do these seem more like mid-tier P5 at best as opposed to elite level recruits?" You asked if they seem more like MAC as opposed to elite level recruits.
If this was pre 2020 and 2021 classes we are talking about Ohio kids, I would agree with you. But these 2020 and 2021 OHIO classes are pretty good, hasnt been this good in a while. So with OSU accepting these lower ranked OHIO kids I am all for it because their rankings will pick up this year.
Jahiem Thomas should already have an offer, hopefully it comes soon. I like Sammy as well, im sure he would commit right away after an offer from OSU.
Most of those are not schools that we would remotely consider peers. One could also argue that Rutgers is really a MAC-level school masquerading as a P5.
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But not a lot of powerhouses in their respective offers either. A couple of these kind of recruits is good but I hope the Bucks limit these types.
Day doesn't have the draw Urban has yet and maybe he wants to make sure he takes advantage of the draw for Ohio kids to OSU for those that are evaluated the best in the state. I'm sure he will get some big names but not like Urban did. I'm more concerned that it's totally all offensive at this point.
He almost single handedly drew Justin Fields... That's why these are so perplexing. It took us so long to figure out Urban's methodology, what was commitable, etc. I wonder if this staff will play some of these differently going forward.
Interesting that we've offered Cam Large, who's ranked 12th nationally, but not Caudill, who's 13th. I realize recruiting rankings don't dictate the staff's priorities but I am wondering what's the discernible difference between them, especially since Large, by his own admission, plays in a part of the country where high school football isn't a big sport.
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We don't know his back ground or maybe a grade risk. There is more to it than just talent. These are the little nuggets we never hear about. Knowing a lot of people in the know in Trumbull and Mahoning counties I could tell you some stories about certain players and why they selected schools that they did and not OSU and why OSU didn't offer them. Is a player fast enough can he add weight so many different things come into play.
Culture is the most important thing on a team. You have to fit the culture. Clemson recruits well but not at Bama's level and yet they have competed with them over the last 5 years. Hunter Renfro was a walk on, and they had quite a few LBs who were not elite as well. 2014 Clemson class had 9 three stars, 2015 had 12, 2016 had 8, 2017 and 2018 classes were greater than 28% each. Culture and development is the difference maker, not stars alone. The national champs/contenders are prob built from ~40% 3 star talent and they did pretty well against Bama and the 5star classes. Don't sleep on 3 stars that have the right attitude, you don't need top 5 classes to win it all. Coaching, culture, a few elite talents, and most importantly a QB and you are on your way.
Ohio is not strong this year talent wise when you look at the top 250 or 350 rankings. This class is a tad better than the last few years though. I'm for keeping the top Ohio talent in home every year but not happy to bring a kid in because he is from Ohio. Ohio some years ago was considered a top 6 or 7 state for talent but it's fallen off a lot. This recent recruit is near MAC level talent just look at who offered him. I don't understand some of you that think we need Ohio kids on our roster. If Ohio high school coach's are up set because we are not taking enough Ohio kids then they better do a better job of coaching and the kids better work harder to get better too. I love how Urban got us on the right road in recruiting and imagine how many more championships could of been won if they did this years ago and casted a larger net out there for talent. Like it or not Ohio can't cover every position year to year like a qb for one example. You get a couple lean years like we had your team will fall in the shitter and fast. I need to get off this Ohio topic but recruiting 900 ranked players are not going to get it done if you want a NC. Why hasn't one big player in the B10 not offer Leroux are they all brain dead and can't see his talents. Then maybe Day can't reel in anyone outside of Ohio at oline this year it makes zero sense to me any way.
I agree, take the best Ohio has to offer but with Urban, there may have been a need but went after the best available at that time.
We need numbers at OL, but a 3* DB?
Do you SERIOUSLY think tOSU's staff looked at Leroux and thought "Hey, this kid is really only good enough for Akron or Toledo, but's let's offer him so we can golf more this summer". B/c that is what you are inplying, but don't have the interwebz cojones to say. Either Day looked at Leroux and said "This guy is good enough/has the developmental potential to keep the pocket clean for Jack Miller against Georgia/Clemson/Texas" or he didn't. It's that simple. Other peoples paranoia is annoying.
time will tell on in-state offers. Will James and Leroux follow Trout, Lisle, Gerald, and Wohlabugh?
James is much better than his ranking and has more than six plays to see his talents against kids near his size. I under stand they want 7 kids on oline but your not going to get 7 elite ones.
Any word on a couple of Ohio kids, Rickey Hyatt and Ethan Wright?
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Is it realistic for the Buckeyes to take Drennen and Jutahn McClain? It was an edited highlight video, but McClain appears very very fast although on the smallish end. Just from video only, Drennen looks bigger. Both are listed as "all purpose backs." However, to me it looks like they bring different stuff to the table.
Count me as embracing the ports. They're all Ohio guys now. Except for Bauserman. Sorry, but it's still too soon.
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