that defense better take a big step forward
"I think Alabama would beat Ohio State if they played next weekend!" Clay Travis Fox Sports Post Championship Show 1.12.2015. Needs no explanation.
How long before OSU fans start complaining about Mattison's salary lol? My prediction is the complaining starts as early as the Spring Game.
Think Mattison isn't expected to be at OSU more than a couple years unless things go really well. Maybe that compensation reflects that.
How is Mattison making more than LJ when the latter is an associate head coach? Pay the man enough that retirement isn't something he wants to dabble in just yet, please.
LJ needs a new agent....
Without God, there is no Liberty...
Mattison got a 100 % base pay increase to leave ttun to come to Ohio State. Yep, helping his retirement fund.
I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!
I'm pretty sure Mattison being a coordinator has something to do with it. You don't often see position coaches (even ones as elite as Larry Johnson) making more than coordinators. And to my knowledge LJ has no desire to be a coordinator (if he did he'd be one by now no question).
No, but he IS essentially the assistant head coach. That should count for something extra in the salary.
LJ is making $750K per year which is still high for a position coach (not that he doesn't deserve it and then some). Odds are if OSU was offering Mattison a lower salary as DC than some of his position coaches he probably wouldn't have taken the job in the first place.
I believe being an associate HC is just verbiage to pay him that amount. Being a state school.
MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS
Not that Hartline is hurting for cash but that dude should be paid at least double what the bonehead was making in that role before him. Not to mention what the receivers did under his guidance.
The pain of discipline or the pain of regret, take your pick
The Athletic Department should at least add a "convenience fee" bonus to Hartline's salary since they won't have to deal with Zach Smith issues throughout the year.
Or, TPM, instead of a convenience fee maybe give him a $10k pay bump for every practice he shows up to on time and not intoxicated.
$100K bonus if he stays out of strip clubs, doesn't bang assistants and doesn't order sex toys to be sent to the WHAC.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
I agree that the receivers were night and day from 2017 to 2018, I would point out that ZS was making 300k in 2017 and was to be raised to 340k for 2018. So in Hartline's first year as a full time assistant coach he is already making more than ZS who was working for a decade as an assistant coach.
I respectfully disagree. Hartline's salary is only $5K more for 2019 than ZS was scheduled to make for 2018. That is literally just an inflation adjusted increase in the two salaries, meaning that Hartline's purchasing power of his salary is equal to what ZS's purchasing power would have been (so really not an increase at all).
There better be some generous incentive bonus structures in place for LJ and Hartline (and Alford, although I'm not sure if he got a big bump or not in salary). Bonuses such as if Chase Young records 1 sack, LJ gets $100K, if Ben Victor catches two passes, Hartline gets $50K. Stuff like that. Easy, schmeezy bonuses. A big bonus is always better than a big salary (assuming the salary is competitive). I understand how the market sets salaries so the new guy often gets paid more when he starts, but paying newbies more than the guys who have been there can cause issues
“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman
Posterchilid still makes a good point. Hartline is making in his first year what ZS had to work up to for 10 years. I believe when ZS was first hired at OSU he was only making 150K or so.
It could be argued that ZS was never paid anywhere near what the other coaches were making because of all of the background crap that was going on even before it became a public fiasco.
Agreed. If the receivers continue to get better this season they better cough it up or he’ll get taken by some other program.
If the receivers continue to get better this season they better cough it up
The idea that OSU receivers "cough it up" makes me uncomfortable, even if not intended.
Want to rephrase that?
Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !
I definitely agree. If the receivers continue to perform well this season, I would hope that his compensation is increased to match that of Alford and Studrawa.
No. At the very least not yet. If he produces 1st team AA's, sure lets knock him up to 500k but until that happens he shouldnt get another huge raise like he just got.
"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI
LJ is under payed but I understand that he can't make more than his "boss" in the hierarchy. Maybe should make 1 cent less than Mattison then.
Also, I'm hoping you accidentally left a 0 off the the end of his contract length. Lock that man up.
I see the logic but I dont care. Larry should be the highest paid assistant.
The ugly truth is often downvoted
You won't hear me argue the contrary.
I don't think any of us would complain about that. He is the highest paid non-coordinator though.
Yep. 900K for a position coach is way above the norm.
“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt
I get that Larry Johnson is thought to be the best d-line coach in America around here, and he very well might be, I don't honestly know, but he's also the highest paid in college football... by a decent margin, so I don't think he's underpaid. The following Football Scoop list was published about a month ago, before Johnson's 150k bump. The guy is a position coach, not even a coordinator, and he makes more money than fifty FBS head coaches. I'd say he's very well compensated.
1. Larry Johnson, Ohio State — $750,000
2. Rodney Garner, Auburn — $650,000
2. Joe Salave’a, Oregon — $650,000
4. Tracy Rocker, Tennessee — $505,000
5. Reese Morgan, Iowa — $500,000
5. Freddie Roach, Ole Miss — $500,000
5. Terry Price, Texas A&M — $500,000
8. Odell Haggins, Florida State — $482,000
9. Brick Haley, Missouri — $477,000
10. Mike Dawson, Nebraska — $475,000
10. Mark Snyder, Florida State — $475,000
When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's
It wasn't that long ago (I think only a 2-3 seasons ago) that LJ was only making around 450,000. So I do tend to agree that he's gotten a good amount of salary bumps recently and is probably paid fair.
Everybody wants to be heard, and the easiest way to be the loudest is to be the hater
Wonder where Clemson D Line coach is on that list?
375k/350k respectively. They use a DT and a DE coach rather than a DL coach but with that being said the dig dog on the block is BV. Theres a reason he makes 2.2 mill as a DC.
Jesus I must still be drunk.
LJ only on a 1 year deal is a bit alarming.
I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..
I'm hopeful that one year contract just means he's in year two of a two year contract (or the final year of whatever contract term he's under).
That was my first thought when I saw that. There is no way that LJ is being kept on a "short leash."
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that the standard contract length for Ohio State assistant football coaches is 2 years, and he last had his renewed this past year.
In reality, the contract length doesn't mean very much, as this current off-season has proven.
As Associate Head Coach, I think that Larry should be paid more than either of the coordinators, no matter the fact that he is also a position coach.
I don't even know what "Associate Head Coach" means. Greg Schiano was the "Associate Head Coach, Defensive Coordinator, Safeties Coach" last season... and when Meyer was suspended Ryan Day was named interim head coach. By the way, Larry Johnson was "Assistant Head Coach, Defensive Line Coach" last year. It seems like these ambiguous titles are just to placate coaches and/or to allow for a bump in salary.
Just guessing, but in a professor hierarchy, associate is a step above assistant.
Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!
I’m really not sure if LJ is THE best DLine coach, or not, either. I know he seems to be a very good coach, but he’s had some top talent to work with.
Sucks to see. It's not enough to confirm it's his last season, by any means, but we're still at a point where we know we won't have him for too much longer. Still, I think Al Washington will be his successor and do a great job.
A scenario where Washington replaces LJ when the time comes and we bring in Marcus Freeman to coach linebackers and be DC/co-DC would be awesome
I don't think it has anything to do with the hierarchy, there are many instances of the employee getting paid more that their boss if they have special skills or circumstances.
I am assuming the 1 year contract is only one year because it's going to get re-negotiated to the $1M range after that...
I'd keep every one of the stadium toilets unclogged for that kinda money.
LOL. Are you sure? Money isn't everything.
Hartline needs more. Washington needs more. Stud needs much less.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
With performance bonuses we could have 5 assistants north of $1M. All the more motivation for them to put together a championship team.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
In all honesty, with salaries that large, why would you ever want to be a head coach when coordinators make $1 million a year. I get the whole career progression, but damn, I’ll give up hoisting the trophy to get paid $1 million a year and not have the stress that almost destroyed Urbans brain.
Especially if you coach at that school up north. You could be like Pep Hamilton and get paid $1 mil to do absolutely nothing lol.
This is just me, but I'd happily take my $200 - $600k as a position coach and leave the coordinating and HC to someone else. You can live a very nice lifestyle without as much stress and probably have a little more job stability if you produce good results new coaches may keep you around. Plus you basically get a free car too. Not a bad gig. But, all these coaches basically live their jobs and don't get much recreational or family time. But, that's part of the deal.
Strength equipment is expensive & guarantees you nothing. A strong will is free & will give you everything you need.
I guess people can't complain UM pays too much now since Mattison makes more than Brown and Wilson and Yurich both make more than Gattis.
The results speak for themselves. Harbaugh was paying guys like Pep Hamilton (who are basically his yes men) $1 mil to do absolute jack with the offense. When you have close to the highest paid coaching staff in CFB and your benchmarks are to finish third in the B1G East every season that's bad. OSU OTOH has won the B1G each of the last two seasons. scUM hasn't won the B1G since Brent Musberger was in his prime and effectively the best CFB play-by-play commentator out there.
Getting Pep out was a good financial and coaching move. Now UM can sit tight as OSU has the largest assistant coach salaries in the nation.
From an ESPN article from just 10 years ago
Jim Bollman OC/OL - 275,400
Jim Heacock DC/DL - 260,510
Darrell Hazell AHC/WR - 236,550
Luke Fickell CoDC/LB - 183,600
with the other 5 making between 162K and 176K
My how the times have changed in just 1 decade
I wonder how much Dantonio is overpaying Bollman now.
Big Ten Network revenue was roughly $10M or so at the beginning, and like $30+ now. So at least both revenue and expenses have both exploded.
My goodness, if this Mattison hire doesn't hit a home run here, there are going to be a lot of Buckeye Nation with pitchforks ready to pounce. My patience for the defense is going to be razor thin - fair or unfair.
Good to see LJ slowly but surely climb up the salary charts. Wasn't long ago he was getting paid peanuts for what he was producing.
That said, he should chat with Brian Hartline and show him that, if he keeps performing this well with the WR group, the salary will take care of itself. Go Bucks!
Mattison's Million = Retirement fund.
Enjoying daily the back to back ttun beatdowns.
It will be interesting to see how OSU's total coaching salaries stack up nation-wide. I think it will be to five at least. This is a far cry from Gene Smith saying he wasn't going to get in a bidding war. He realizes good assistants are critical to success.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.
It will be interesting to see how OSU's total coaching salaries stack up nation-wide
They are #1 in assistant salaries. Maybe you only read the chart and not the text. But, the author said in the article "according to USA TODAY's coaching salaries database, Ohio State was the only school to pay out more than $7 million to its assistant football coaches in 2018."
The buyout does not apply if an assistant coach leaves Ohio State for a head coaching position.
Interesting. I didn't know about this. That seems like a good deal for assistant coaches.
What we have currently available is what we have available.
Since the comparisons always come up I figured I'd provide it so we can compare for conversation.
NAME POSITION SALARY
Greg Mattison Co-Defensive Coordinator $1,100,000
Mike Yurcich Passing Game Coordinator & QBs $950,000
Kevin Wilson Offensive Coordinator & TEs $950,000
Jeff Hafley Co-Defensive Coordinator & DBs 950,000
Larry Johnson Associate HC & D-Line $900,000
Tony Alford Running Backs & Associate Offensive HC $600,000
Greg Studrawa Offensive Line Coach $600,0000
Al Washington Linebackers Coach $500,000
Matt Barnes Special Teams Coordinator $350,000
Brian Hartline Wide Receivers Coach $345,000
Michigan Assistant Coaching Salaries
COACH TITLE SALARY
Don Brown Defensive Coordinator $1,000,000
Josh Gattis Offensive Coordinator $900,000
Jay Harbaugh RBs Coach & Assistant Special Teams Coordinator $300,000
Ben McDaniels QB Coach $300,000
Sherrone Moore TE Coach $250,000
Ed Warriner Offensive Line Coach $550,000
Chris Partridge Safeties & Special Teams Coordinator $500,000
Mike Zordich CBs Coach $400,000
Shuan Nua Defensive Line Coach $400,000
Anthony Campanile Defensive Assistant $415,000
Now add in head coach salaries for the full picture.
We've finally figured out why the lose every year. Assistant coach salaries.
I believe that UM's total was higher the past several years as Pep Hamilton and GMatt made more than Gattis and Nua (Washington made less than Campanile), and a number of OSU assistants got raises this year. Also prior Drevno made more than Warriner.
M*ch*g*n scUM TE coach no WR coach? Well I guess that's why they emphasize TEs catching and running the ball.
You win with people.
Good bump for Brian Hartline, and very well deserved.
Agree on Hartline- also glad to see our assistants paid competitively as well.
Add Jimmy's salary this year of 7.5 Mil+ and the total is then a million+ more paid at UM for the "coaches".
Have a feeling they're going to be rethinking things up north before to much longer.
I looked up Mickey Marotti:
613,060 base salary in 2018
not too shabby
also LJ should make 950k
Now is coach Mick strictly strength and conditioning for the football team? Or is he involved in other sports as well?
I call bullshit on Greg’s salary! FRom a man who just had 62 put on his and don browns defense? They had better not give up more than 12 pts a game.
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Inflation, the mother of ALL taxes, is a helleva drug drag...and why most of middle America can no longer attend games anymore while increasingly having to make difficult decisions each month that may determine whether they continue to reside under brick & mortar or to find alternative shelter beneath heavy gauge cardboard...
In the last decade inflation has only topped 2% three times and 3% once, it has been tame for the most part. In the last 70's, early 80's we had inflation North of 10% and saw 4-5% annually in the 90's. Medical costs/insurance are far more a problem than the rest of our expenses though recently housing has jumped significantly. Food and fuel costs have been steady recently.
Of course if you are not getting any raises or 1-2% you do continue to fall behind as wage inflation has not been keeping up with business demands for many employees.
I should have been more clear when referring to inflation as the "mother of all taxes" by also mentioning that it is also a hidden tax. This allows our politicians to escape their responsibilities of containing costs and to freely exceeding budget which is why, as a nation, we are upside down.
We can't possibly grow ourselves out of this economic malaise and the only way to maintain the status quo is to turn on the printing presses (QE) which only further debases our already devalued fiat dollar. The debasement is where the tax is hidden from public scrutiny.
The dollar has lost about 97% of it's purchasing power since the establishment of the Federal Reserve which, btw, is not a government agency. In fact, the government has absolutely no oversight of the Fed., none at all. Curiously, the IRS was also established in the same year to collect the income tax that was to be used to pay back the loans they made to our government, at interest, to the same private owners of the Fed. It continues to this day.
I recommend "The Creature from Jeckyl Island" by G. Edward Griffin for further enlightenment on this subject. It changed my world view, it may change yours.
If the NCAA wants to push for an even playing field perhaps they should put a cap on salaries and the number of coaches per team.
I don't think that would improve parity much, but that's just me. To improve parity they need to first look at scheduling, revenue sharing (which they already do), and recruiting (either loosening the reigns or truly enforcing the rules).
It would be interesting to see the total cost of the football program. I know it makes more than enough revenue, but I'm still curious.
We could add up:
The net present value of bonuses
Travel and lodging costs for coaches
Equipment costs, including equipment staff
The portion of AD salaries devoted to football
AD travel costs
Stadium staff and maintenance for football
Travel costs for the team
Maintenance, equipment and staff at the WHAC.
It is probably an eye-popping number, even though it's covered.
According to the NCAA data from 2018 OSU had $120 million in revenue and $69 million in net profit. This ranked 5th behind Texas A&M, Texas, UM, and Bama in that order.
Throw in paying for recruits that come on official visits and it also covers about another 35 or so non revenue sports too.
Ex.....scUm coach making more then L.J..........bull shit.......Go L.J.......Go Bucks
It's interesting how it seems to bother you to have an ex UM coach, but an ex PSU one doesn't. It's almost as though you recognize LJ as one of your own now and forget he spent more than 15 at PSU and his son was an All American at PSU.
Well it is tough to compare somebody with PSU roots to somebody with UM roots for OSU fans. Our fanbase loves LJ; I'll tell you that much for sure. He's definitely earned all of the praise he's gotten too, in my opinion. I've never been crazy about the Mattison hire, however I still see the upside to it and the reasons behind it. I still see a lot of negative comments about him on here as if he's the worst in every last way. It's important to see the strategy with him.
Mattison will likely only coach for another year or two. He's always been a good coordinator, and he knows how to coach every player in a front-7.
Hafley has never been a coordinator before. It's obvious that Day thinks he should start as a co-coordinator--with a coach who has seen just about everything--instead of just throwing him into a coordinator position.
Plus, our linebackers lost 2 years of development under Bill Davis and Mattison can help out a lot with the linebackers individually.
Mattison will be gone likely within 2yrs, and I think his time here will be very beneficial to both Washington and Hafley. As much as I wanted Marcus Freeman, I understand the advantages of bringing in Mattison instead of him at this time. I'll take our 2019 defensive staff over our 2018 defensive staff any day of the week
Looking at the numbers, doubling his salary and getting to coordinate again would be hard to turn down for Mattison. That takes some of the questions as to why away.
Mattison last year was paid around $900 last year for a reason of being stepped over of some sort. I read that when he was hired but it's no longer there to view anymore. Plus was to receive $950 this season. Warriner has paid$525 last season Washington $350 and was to get a bump to $375 this year. Bollman at MSU gets $542
This years staff with Day included is $11,745 and last years staff with Urban included was $14,660 all base pay and I could be off a little?
This late to rest the argument whether players should be paid or not? Pay for performance, right? Just like coaches.
You get a free education for being on the team. Starters, all-conference, AAs get paid more accordingly.
an embarassment of riches...slowly shakes head.
Man, I need to get me out of the defense business and into the coaching football business. *sigh*
Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.
thats one hell of a bonus to get to the title game, they should definitely be motivated. I wonder if these are stackable, like if they win the B1G East, win the conf champ, make it to the playoff, etc, do they get them all?
That's a pretty big salary for guys that just got 62 hung on them. But, Ryan day knows more than I do. Guess we'll see.
Remember we hung 40 and 50 points on everyone and TTUN had everyone else in check even ND to start the season. I don't ever count bowl games players don't play and others can care less unless it's in the bigger bowls. Not sure if they played Purdue and Maryland but I bet they won and didn't give up a boat load of points.
talk about DISSING LJ ...WOW that guy deserves the biggest pay of any assistant ...he's proven himself year after year ..
Is Dan Snyder our shadow AD? Mattison's salary is ABSURD.