Rashan Gary: “I’m the Best Player in This Draft,” “Offensively and Defensively. Period.”

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Hovenaut's picture

He definitely picked the right school.

Got M...igan gossip? Bang it here.

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

Well said.

Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith

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rkylet83's picture

1 million points for you Hove!

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AC's picture

I give Gary credit, I wouldn’t have been able to say that with a straight face if I were him. Bosa had more sacks than Gary despite playing 6 games fewer and no athletic testing numbers can change that.

emotionally exhausted and morally bankrupt 

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

Not to mention Bosa rotated more often when he did play. lol

Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith

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Leonhard's picture

So when they say....they do it the right way.....is this an example of that? I'm confused. /s

Leonhard

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CC's picture

Don’t worry it’s just a mirage...

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dwcbuckeye's picture

Very interesting take on him and everyone at the combine on NFL.com.  There is a detailed review on each prospect.  For Gary they note his athletic ability but the knock on him is really on development.  For example:

 * Rush plan is somewhat basic at this stage of development

* Hands lack skill and have yet to be unlocked as rush weapon

 * Runs himself around the pocket rather than working back under

 * Long-arm bull rush is his only real rush tool

Why any top player would want to go to Michigan I cannot understand.  Forgetting about the rivalry, they just DO NOT develop their players relative to OSU or many top schools.  Gary's talent was absolutely wasted at Michigan.  

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

He probably was afraid to work.  Meyer held expectations and his practices are challenging. Not to mention the S&C program might be the best.  Look at Gary's fat build compared to Bosa's and our DL in general.  He took the easy route.

Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith

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Byaaaahhh's picture

I get that potential may still be there, but at some point, if you've spent 3-4 years in college and still haven't realized that potential, it's a sign that maybe it's not there, whether due to ability, work ethic, or some other factor. 

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buckslan's picture

That's not exactly a good sign if their DL players aren't being developed. We just took their DL coach and made him our DC. But I think it's more of a Gary problem than a Mattison problem. I mean look at Winovich, he was a 3* player and he's now being drafted.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Winovich is a great example, as was Maurice Hurst last year. At Rivals, they suggested that Gary may take more the rout of Da'shawn Hand, also a #1 recruit (also interested in Michigan, btw) and develop more at the pro level. More of a knock on Gary, but not a good look either way. 

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Dstacify's picture

For being the best player in this draft he sure doesn't play with a lot of heart.

11 Strong.

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OSU56's picture

and to think, I just finished saying in his other thread he didn't open his mouth like the other "talkers".......

Oh well, another *ichigan man that can't back it up.

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Buckabroad's picture

Takes guts to humiliate yourself like that before the media after proving the opposite over the last 3 years. Truly a TTUN man: Feels arrogant where he should feel shame. 

"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Gasp

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Bucks2K18's picture

*ding*

(If you know what I mean)

That's a Buckeye touchdown!

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Archie's Bunker's picture

That quote looks like another Winovich mirage.

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GlassCityBuckeyes's picture

He's out of the league within 3 years.

Noon games suck

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youra6's picture

Was he always this stupid, or did he have to take classes?

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Buck298's picture

This is part of the UM General Studies curriculum. It’s from the class titled, Delusional Self Imagery 101. 

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Buckabroad's picture

They are very proud that TTUN is #1 ranked in the country in that field … 

"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."

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gumtape's picture

If you are the best player in the draft, you must have won a lot of championships.

High and tight boo boo

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Zonabuck's picture

Obviously, his walk-up music is “My Mama Said” by Lenny Kravitz. 

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith

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NHBuckeye's picture

I read the title and thought it was a gag.  Sadly, this seems to be what happens to guys when they attend that school.  Their sense of reality gets sucked out of their soul it seems.  

I read that analysis of him in a post above.  If he didn’t totally dominate linemen in college what makes anyone think he is worthy of a top-5 pick?  NFL teams want a sure thing at the top of the draft, not a kid that still seems to have that “he’s got potential” label.  It’s a shame he didn’t come to OSU and be developed by Coach LJ. 

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Sims_tOSU's picture

It’s probably something to do with his number one ranking as a recruit for ESPN at least. went to his head. Now he thinks he always the best and has no grasp on reality when it comes to stats and film. 

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MaineStrength's picture

From what I've seen he has the size, strength, and speed to be elite.  But, he still seems a bit raw.  He doesn't seem to show as many tools/moves as a rusher yet and is not what I'd call an elite "anticipator" which for all intents and purposes is all about motor control.  This is IMO what makes the best athletes in the world so...much more so than size, strength, and speed.  It's the ability to anticipate what your opponent is going to do and quickly come up with a plan to beat them by being able to activate & deactivate force quickly and have an understanding of reading and reacting to situations in live time and in unpredictable situations.  This is why closed skills like those at the combine IMO are not great predictors of sport athletes.  They are mostly predictable.  Reacting to unpredictable situations is what elite athleticism is all about, at least when it comes to team sports.  This is why a guy like Jerry Rice, Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan, Barry Sanders, Deon Sanders, Mario Lemeaux etc. are not as big or as strong as many of their competitors, but yet better.  Everyone once in a while a guy has both like Lebron James, but if only given one choice between motor control and size/strength, the former is more predictive of success in team sports. 

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ScarletnGreyTexan's picture

the problem is he shouldn't be "raw" at this point. Raw is someone like Zach Harrison who has every tool to leave here being a top pick in the draft.  I actually don't lay this completely at the feet of the coaching staff. There has to be something inside each person that has to be perverse almost in that they can't stand to think someone is outworking them, out lifting them, out learning them and Rashan doesn't have that. He is a classic case of being told you're the best your whole life and it's filtered into his head so he's rolling up like I'm good.  I mean wtf shows up in all the pre combine pics and videos of a sweatshirt with your own "brand" initials. his whole starting his own representation company to me is comical. This is the Lavar Ball world we are living in. Rashan wants to be have that life but doesn't want to do what it will take be in that life.  He will go down as a bust if he is picked in the first 10 slots

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Zonabuck's picture

Big Daddy went #1 overall, but was viewed as still being somewhat raw. In his case, it was because he could use his strength and quickness to get into the backfield quickly, and didn’t have to rely on technique to be disruptive and dominate. Gary doesn’t show any of that. Plenty of guys have bursts of highlight reel plays - BB Landers is a good example - without being a high first round pick. There’s not a lot of indication that he’ll ever put in the work. 

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MaineStrength's picture

There’s not a lot of indication that he’ll ever put in the work. 

I think there is some misinformation & hot takes here on Rashan that are not accurate.  There are some good questions and criticisms regarding his sack numbers.  But, from what's been written about him, it's not about work ethic.  Harbaugh, Brown, & Mattison all credited Gary with a strong work ethic.  From all indications Gary is a hard worker and cares.  For whatever reason he just lacks the arsenal of moves to get to the QB.  To date he's really only used the bull rush and hasn't utilized his hands very well.  It remains to be seen if he will develop more.  But it doesn't appear to be a work ethic thing.

Mattison on how Rashan gets blocked & why sacks may not be there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gAhd0F_DSU

Mattison on Rashan's work ethic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWHdlpCGf4E

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Zonabuck's picture

April of 2017 was just after his Freshman season, shortly before the team went to Italy to prepare for the 2017 season. That work ethic comment was hopeful, but we’ve seen two additional seasons with very little progress. So if a coach or someone like Sam Webb (or some other insider) tells us Gary is working hard and I,proving by leaps and bounds, it doesn’t carry nearly as much weight as the results on the field. And results aren’t stats. Mike Martin used to occupy two blockers on pretty much every play. He was far more disruptive than Hurst, but he didn’t rack up personal tons of personal stats. But he certainly produced and made everyone around him better.

Heres a quote from TTUN’s LB coach, who seems to know Rashan in high school. He mentions work ethic too, and playing at a top level on every play. That’s not true, either. 

“There’s certain players that just have something. It’s a work ethic on the field and in the classroom, it’s a love for the game where they have a bounce in their step every time they hit the field. I’ve so far gotten to ... coach two of those guys. One of them’s Jabrill (Peppers), one of them’s Rashan. They just have it. Have something, and every single play they play 110 m.p.h.

“I expect huge things out of Rashan, and he expects that of himself. It’s not going to be just on the field, it’s going to be in the community at the school.”

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MaineStrength's picture

if a coach tells us Gary is working hard and improving by leaps and bounds, it doesn’t carry nearly as much weight as the results on the field.

So, the coach's voice doesn't count?  Who would you trust to talk about his work ethic?

it doesn’t carry nearly as much weight as the results on the field. And results aren’t stats.

So, what results are you looking for?

In 2016 he was a backup and recorded 12 solo tackles, 11 assists, 5 tackles for loss, and .5 sacks.

In 2017 in his first year starting he improved by recording 25 solo tackles, 33 assists, 11.5 tackles for loss, and 5.5 sacks.

In 2018 he was injured in the ND game, then played injured in 4 games, then sat out 3 games, then came back for 4 more games. 

Mike Martin used to occupy two blockers on pretty much every play. He was far more disruptive than Hurst, but he didn’t rack up personal tons of personal stats.

What evidence do you have to suggest Martin was a better player than Hurst?  Hurst recorded as many sacks and tackles in his first year in the NFL as Martin did in his first two years combined.  Martin isn't even in the league any longer whereas Hurst has been given praise on his growth and expectations for his future.

Heres a quote from TTUN’s LB coach, who seems to know Rashan in high school. He mentions work ethic too, and playing at a top level on every play. That’s not true, either. 

I don't get it.  You're using Rashan's coach giving him praise as evidence he does not have a good work ethic?

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Zonabuck's picture

It’s a comment from his high school years. A guy hired specifically to bring him and his mama to Ann Arbor was singing praises about his work ethic during recruitment. Either they’re all blowing sunshine.  Or maybe Mattison, Brown and Partridge are bad at evaluating work ethic.

As for Martin, he was far more consistent at manhandling double teams than Hurst was.  We even played Hurst straight up last year and contained him just fine. But you’re taking the comparison as Hurst not being a special player instead of Martin being a guy you absolutely had to factor for on every single play, but I can’t speculate as to why.  Either way, Gary was neither of those guys. 

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MaineStrength's picture

Either they’re all blowing sunshine.  Or maybe Mattison, Brown and Partridge are bad at evaluating work ethic.

There are no other possibilities?  It couldn't be that he made good contributions as a true freshman, made improvements as a sophomore, then got injured as a junior?  It couldn't be that his primary responsibility was as an anchor in run defense and/or contain?  It couldn't be that he works hard, yet hasn't quite developed a variety of pass rush moves yet, but still has the measurables to be a high draft pick?  None of these are possibilities?  The only possibility is that although no one has ever said this about him, he's lazy?  Doesn't sound like a convincing argument.

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Bigmarty's picture

Some people just don't use God's gifts to them...he is one.

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MaineStrength's picture

Some people just don't use God's gifts to them

Motor control is just as much as a gift is height, weight, speed, strength, etc.  You just don't see it until the guy plays a game.  It doesn't show up in drills or pictures.  Gary has the latter, but there is still some questions on the former.  There are plenty of big, strong, fast dudes that just aren't that great just as there are plenty of smaller, slower, weaker (in comparison) dudes that are really good.  Both are gifted in different ways, but most people are able to easily identify one and not the other.  There is a fundamental misunderstanding about what makes someone good at sports.  It's almost like the theory of the movie Money Ball.  People get enamored with the guy that looks the part rather than the guy and gets the job done well.

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Byaaaahhh's picture

"You can't see motor control in drills" lol.

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MaineStrength's picture

Rashan wants to be have that life but doesn't want to do what it will take be in that life.  

What evidence do have to suggest this?  Did you come up with this theory based loosely on the fact that he was the #1 overall recruit and didn't get a lot of sacks?  Can you find any of his previous coaches that question his work ethic?  Athletic ability aside, this is not indicative of what has been publicized about Rashan.  In fact, it was publicized that he turned down cash from Clemson to go to UM.  He was never a go out and party kind of guy.  He doesn't dress flashy.  Every indication is that he's a hard working, focused, young man that is more interested in being successful than being flashy and having the lifestyle you seem to be indicating.  

Don Brown on Rashan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jz6jZETO0o

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Zonabuck's picture

It seems like it’s difficult to find any evidence of his coaches praising his work ethic since his Freshman season. Nothing from his Sophomore and Junior seasons. I wonder what changed. 

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MaineStrength's picture

It seems like it’s difficult to find any evidence of his coaches praising his work ethic since his Freshman season. Nothing from his Sophomore and Junior seasons. 

Two of those videos are from his sophomore year.  I will post another below on him from 2018 if you prefer.  You have provided no evidence beyond what you think.  There is literally nothing to suggest Gary doesn't work hard.  Not a single person that has worked with him has questioned his work ethic.  Please find some evidence or stop bashing the guy for no reason.  Question why his statistics don't seem to match his recruiting and draft rankings all you want.  That is a good question to ask.  Your theory on his work ethic is baseless.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P-lHmjClQU

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Zonabuck's picture

He hadn’t played a single down of his Sophomore season when those videos were cut. Once he did play his first down of his sophomore season, the coaches stopped talking about his work ethic. Why?

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jcposu's picture

The biggest issue with Rashan Gary is that he should be the best player in the draft but no one outside of his mother & himself actually believe he is in fact the best. Besides DK Metcalf he might be the most physically gifted athlete in this years class. I don’t know what kind of effort he puts in behind closed doors but he routinely showed a lack of effort on game day in college and from season to season did not show the kind of technical improvement that is expected of someone with his physical gifts. That is indicative that he didn’t put 100% effort into his college career. Perhaps in the NFL things will be different. If his technique and motor (which is not a gift but a testament to a persons effort, drive and will, which are self controlled not genetic “gifts”) were equivalent to Nick Bosa’s then I don’t think there would be any doubt that Gary would be the first player taken in the draft. As physical as football is, it is truly a mental game at its highest levels and to be successful your mentality on and off the field will dictate your success. 

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MaineStrength's picture

from season to season did not show the kind of technical improvement. That is indicative that he didn’t put 100% effort into his college career.  If his technique and motor (which is not a gift but a testament to a persons effort, drive and will, which are self controlled not genetic “gifts”) 

Technique is based on effort alone?  Everyone learns the same way and at the same pace?  As a strength coach and teacher I would disagree.  There are plenty of young athletes that have the desire that take longer to learn new skills, just as there are plenty that get it immediately that lack much effort.  

The biggest issue with Rashan Gary is that he should be the best player in the draft but no one outside of his mother & himself actually believe he is in fact the best

I do think he has not lived up to his physical ability yet.  I also think he doesn't have as many pass rush skills as a guy like Nick.  I'm not sure why this is.  Everything I've seen about him suggests he is a hard worker.  Time will eventually reveal his real nature, but I haven't seen any evidence to date that he's lacking a work ethic.

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When did I say technique is based only on effort? Don’t cherry pick my statement mid sentence. You had no response to the beginning of the sentence when I stated he routinely showed a lack of effort in games because you know it is a fair assessment. I agree people learn and develop at different rates but Rashan rarely goes to any move other than a bull rush in passing situations. The fact that he has not developed a spin, swim, uppercut, elbow control, etc. show that in three years he has not developed his technique. That comes down to one of three things; coaching, comprehension or effort. That is a paraphrase from a friend who works for the Buccaneers organization, it’s written in their scouting report on him. I’ve never said he lacks work ethic, I don’t know him and have never been around him, so it isn’t my place to judge. I do, however, know that his lack of progression is a concern and the people in the NFL will question everyone who has interacted with him to determine why that is. That said his athleticism is incredible and if he puts it all together he will be a force. 

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MaineStrength's picture

Once he did play his first down of his sophomore season, the coaches stopped talking about his work ethic

What about the last video from 2018?  

Provide some evidence of your theory or stop bashing the guy for nonsense.  You have nothing to support your theory.

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Zonabuck's picture

You make some good points. Maybe all the stuff we see isn’t real and all the stuff we have no evidence of really is the way it is. It’s convincing. Either way, I’m all for the excuses, the hypotheticals and the woulda-coulda-shouldas if it continues to produce the same results we’ve seen for the past two decades. Hail to the guys who are doing everything they are supposed to be doing, even though it’s difficult to see when the lights come on. 

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MaineStrength's picture

What are your excuses for literally every coach he's ever played for that says he works hard.  This all boils down to one simple fact.  Rashan plays for a team you don't like.  It's as simple as that and no amount of evidence I provide will overcome your emotional disdain because he was ranked higher than all OSU's guys.  I'm sorry he was a highly ranked recruit and continues to be a highly ranked draft pick despite not putting up as good of numbers as other guys and not beating OSU.  Get over it.  Does this look like a guy that doesn't work hard?  You have nothing productive to discuss so I will move along.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/rashan-gary?id=32194741-5276-6759-8729-700e2dfb98cd

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Zonabuck's picture

I’m not the one who is emotional. And all of your points in this post have been covered, ad nauseam. 

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buckeyenut74's picture

Take this to the bank. Gary is not getting drafted above Bosa. 

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MaineStrength's picture

For the third time in this thread, no one is suggesting Gary should go ahead of Bosa.  This discussion has noting to do with Bosa other than as a reference point as another top DL in the draft class.  No one has ever said Gary is better than Bosa or deserves to be drafted ahead of him.

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buckeyenut74's picture

And I have proof he quits on plays. Saw it against Ohio State up there in 2017. 

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Buck298's picture

Well this should be expected for a school that produces the most September Heismans in history. So I guess they want to be the leader in The March Heisman race too. 

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gumtape's picture

The underwear Olympics gold medalist.

High and tight boo boo

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BornAndBredABuckeye's picture

“I’M THE BEST PLAYER IN THIS DRAFT,” “OFFENSIVELY AND DEFENSIVELY. PERIOD, had I gone to The Ohio State University."

FIFY you, Gary. 

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Crumb's picture

He's not even the best player from his own defensive line in the draft!

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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MaineStrength's picture

I'll be the first to say that recruiting matters.  It correlates well to college football and NFL success.  However, Rashan was the consensus #1.  By contrast, Mo Hurst was not even nationally ranked in the top 500.  Mo is 6'1" and Rashan is 6'4".  Mo runs a 4.97 40 and Rashan runs a 4.57.  I guarantee that Rashan will out test Mo in all the combine tests minus possibly bench press because Mo has shorter arms.  I also can tell you without question Mo is the far superior defensive lineman.

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buckeyenationlouisvillebranch's picture

Well...obviously someone didn't take his medication this morning. If I am a NFL team, I look the other way from him in the draft. This guy has just proved he is not a team player. Ok, your 0-3 record against TOSU really supports that. Gary...Bosa is your daddy, and don't you ever forget that.

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allinosu's picture

This an example of the delusional crap that they hear the first step on campus. The 'Michigan man' delusion is something pushed from day one until they start believing it. This is similar to O'korn saying he was the most NFL QB last year.

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gumtape's picture

I give OKorn a break, he took a lot of hits.

High and tight boo boo

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Canukbuck's picture

As a player, he sure TALKS one hell of a game, but then again, so do all of the TTUN players ..... At some point though, these kids will actually have to back up all that chatter and well, we've seen the results (right, Chase, Kalis, Higdon, etc ....??) ....

One thing has been proven - the "Trickle-down" theory .... all of these ridiculous proclamations stem from their delusional, often shirtless HC ..... Let's go to Africa, but not do any practicing - what's the point ??  We'll come back home after a great, educational trip, beat up on the softies on our schedule and then crap the bed once we play ranked teams.  It's the perfect formula for me keeping my job and recruiting good players (who will never improve during the 4 years they're here, or transfer out) ..... 

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kmp10's picture

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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OSUBias's picture

I noticed him on one play in The Game this year. One. I don’t need any other detailed scouting report to tell me he’s pretty mediocre. Michigan fans were even excited that he was leaving, so that should tell you something (though they are always convinced their backups are going to make huge leaps and be All-Americans next year).

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Art Harrell's picture

Who is Rashan Gary ? Fuck scUm...Go Bucks

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Spirit's picture

What motivates a snob?

A sense of personal inferiority!

Spirit

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Keze's picture

Hell Haskins said he was the best. Damn confused on which blowhard to believe.

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I am Kirok's picture

Haskins is the best QB in this draft. The fact that we OSU fans still can't see it is amazing. He's the most talented QB to EVER wear the scarlet and gray.

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Spirit's picture

You could be a troll.........Keze.

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chinooker97's picture

When will those up north boys realize you actually need to prove it on the field before you can talk smack?

"Because we couldn't go for three."

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Buck-n-A's picture

He basically sums up the whole Wolverine culture. Beat up the cupcakes and folder against the alphas.

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BuckeyeRocket's picture

Cue up Springsteen’s “Glory Days”.  Gary is still thinks he is in high school in NJ.

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stuckupnorth's picture

Just about every player says this type of thing. At Michigan,OSU, and North Dakota State. They will also work harder than everyone else. Just give them a chance and they will prove everyone wrong. Don’t forget they are gonna make every team who passed on them regret it. They also all feel like they are great students of the game and want it harder. Listening to these guys are no different than coach speak. I can tell you what they will say almost word for word before it even comes out. It’s an honor and they are humbled by it. Coaches have to work on some things in practice. Had a great week of practice , guys played hard ..........

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Das Hufeisen's picture

Don't forget it is what it is

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Mikefletcher24's picture

 When he decided to go play for that school up north, I was concerned that he was going to be a problem for us. But after watching him play a few games, I never got the sense that he was a real difference maker on the field. I was at the game in AA , When Haskins had that long run after Jt went out.. I was right behind the buckeyes bench and on that play I saw him pursuing Haskins and I was so impressed that a dude his size could run so fast. But that one play  seemed to sum up his career, he had The skill and certainly the ability..but lacked heart.... I watched him slow down and sort of give up when he saw Johnny Dixon eyeing him up for a block..Watch the video and you will see it. On that  play, and in that GAME you would expect that he would have given it everything he had. https://youtu.be/YdROgwACSoM

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DukeofWeimar's picture

Gary is the epitome of freak athletes that coaches say "Look like Tarzan..play like Jane"

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bigc's picture

Bragging about being the best before actually proving anything is the Michigan way! He just fits the persona of all Michigan Men!

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buckeyenut74's picture

Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't do hard work. 

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OSU56's picture

Gary saying he's the best player in the draft.....

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yoderd1121's picture

I just don't get where all the hype is coming from. Currently Mgo is saying he will jump up ahead of Bosa in the draft because he ran a 4.5 forty compared to Bosa's 4.7 time. Is their delusion at an all time high?

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buckeyenut74's picture

Those TTUN fans will be bitterly disappointed again when Bosa is higher than Gary. 

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OSU56's picture

and they usually are bitterly disappointed every November as well.....I'm just trying to figure out when they will run out of excuses for all of the disappointments they have.

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LoufromOSU's picture

Its certainly possible, but there are also reasons a lot of the same teams pick in the top 10 year after year...

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The Cynic's picture

If I’m a scout or GM, my first question to him, is why wasn’t he a better player with these kind of numbers? He should’ve dominated, and yet he was outplayed by a lesser athlete in Winovich. Does he feel he has any motivation to be great, and if so why wasn’t he?

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Banks of olentangy's picture

Those who stay will think they are the best in the draft...

Banks of olentangy

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Buxki84's picture

If you evaluate Gary by his on the field play, you come to the conclusion that he is a risky pick for the NFL first round, particularly within the first 20 or so picks. His lack of production on the field was apparent. This guy should have dominated games and most of the time you didn't know he was on the field. Appears to me that he is trying to show self-confidence and maybe use his words to win over a scout or two and boost his draft status.

Teams have gotten burnt drafting for physical talent in the past without seeing on the field production. Why not draft a player that has both, physical tools and on field production? Also is he a tackle or an end? I'm guessing tackle because of his lack of moves. He might work out if the guys around him are really good, particularly at rushing the passer. But how many teams have that already? Most teams drafting high in the 1st round should take a pass. Not worth the risk of a bust.

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c11058's picture

The ultimate test for Gary will be actual NFL completion.  Let's see how much playing time he gets and what the results are after a season or two. 

You don't have to talk if you're good.  

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hthe620110's picture

If you are the best, as you say, where the Hell were you when it mattered the most during the big game, your ass disappeared.  You are far from the best, you are maybe top 40 but that is pushing it.

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

Once Gary gets that signing bonus you'll never see him in the weight room or the film room again.

Lol at the NFL GM that gives this guy first round money..

Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith

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mathandler1's picture

If he went to Ohio State he would have had only two choices. Work your tail off and produce or get out of the way of someone else. His sack numbers might of been higher as teams had to throw more against us because of the trailing(except this past season). I think he would have been a monster here with the people around him. We just have to hear him because we didn't see him.

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Bucks19's picture

Gary won’t be drafted ahead of Bosa but won’t be far behind. He could be an All Pro. 

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GunnerBuck's picture

We all know that's not true. Gary wasnt even the best player on his own defense. 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I can't really remember one stand out play he made is a big game 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

I can't recall who it was on the broadcast, but they said something that I thought all along, something to the effect of:

You love to see these guys come in here and put up these crazy numbers and look so athletically impressive, but at the same time you look at a guy like Rashan Gary or Montez Sweat and you wonder, where was all of this athletic ability while you were at your college program? Why doesn't this show up in your production while you were in school?

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Yeah we all saw you tear it up slack off at TTUN, Rashan.

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

Now that is DEFINITELY a mirage.  Haha

Class of 2010.

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avail31678's picture

This is exactly what you feel you have to say about yourself when you know you're definitely NOT the best player in the draft.  

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