Iowa and Penn State Split B1G Dual Meet Championship

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Knarcisi's picture

Iowa completed its schedule without facing Penn State, Michigan or Ohio State.

Nice job scheduling, Big 10. Looks like a Wisconsin football schedule. 

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Seattle Linga's picture

That's gotta be tough to pull off. 

Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

But will it lead to a Wisconsin "getting exposed in the B1G championship game" moment?  Gonna have to face them all now.  Nowhere to hide.

Class of 2010.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Have to agree here. I mean, I'd say relative to the past few years obviously the Wrestlebucks are down, but somehow Iowa avoids the top 3 programs on the eastern side of the conference? Suspect at best if you ask me...

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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Elfkrieg's picture

I highly doubt this was a planned conspiracy.
Each B10 program did not wrestle four other B10 programs.. and each team had the same schedule as one other team, based I guess on proximity/rivalry status.
For example:
ILLINOIS-NORTHWESTERN, INDIANA-PURDUE, IOWA-MINNESOTA, MARYLAND-RUTGERS, MICHIGAN-MICHIGAN STATE, NEBRASKA-WISCONSIN, OHIO STATE-PENN STATE
So, Minnesota did not face the same four opponents as Iowa.

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Elfkrieg's picture
  ILL IND IOWA MD MICH MICH ST MINN NEB NW OSU PSU PUR RUT WIS
ILL x O yes O yes yes yes yes yes yes yes O O yes
IND O x yes yes yes yes yes O O yes yes yes yes O
IOWA yes yes x yes O O yes yes yes O O yes yes yes
MD O yes yes x yes yes yes yes O O O yes yes yes
MICH yes yes O yes x yes O O yes yes yes yes yes O
MICH ST yes yes O yes yes x O O yes yes yes yes yes O
MINN yes yes yes yes O O x yes yes O O yes yes yes
NEB yes O yes yes O O yes x yes yes yes O yes yes
NW yes O yes O yes yes yes yes x yes yes O O yes
OSU yes yes O O yes yes O yes yes x yes yes O yes
PSU yes yes O O yes yes O yes yes yes x yes O yes
PUR O yes yes yes yes yes yes O O yes yes x yes O
RUT O yes yes yes yes yes yes yes O O O yes x yes
WIS yes O yes yes O O yes yes yes yes yes O yes x

(this is how everyone's schedule looked)

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CasualObserver's picture

The Big Ten uses "protected pairs" for their scheduling. Everyone wrestles the other half of their pair, plus four other pairs.

1. OSU/PSU (skip 2 and 7)
2. Iowa/Minnesota (skip 1 and 3)
3. UM/MSU (skip 2 and 5)
4. IU/Purdue (skip 5 and 6)
5. Wisc/Neb (skip 3 and 4)
6. Ill/NU (skip 4 and 7)
7. Rutg/UMD (skip 1 and 6)

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Elfkrieg's picture

A more elegant explanation than my feeble attempt, thank you!

So the question is:  How has Iowa's schedule varied over the seasons since protected pairs have been implemented?  Is there a bias?

I would personally much rather see parity among competition than major blowouts.  I suspect this would be favored by most fans of any sport.  Could scheduling somehow include upper-tier programs competing mainly against upper-tier programs, and lower-tier programs competing mainly against lower-tier programs??  It may be worth trying.  At a minimum, it would be nice if an upper-tier program like Iowa did not miss out on wrestling three other upper-tier programs -- for entertainment value alone.

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CasualObserver's picture

Just looking at Iowa and Ohio State's schedules over the last five years, it appears that they rotate the pairs in pairs. If that makes sense. Iowa will always skip 1&3, 4&5, or 6&7. Staggering the rotation sounds like it'd make more sense.

In Iowa's defense, Minnesota was the biggest threat to Iowa until PSU/OSU came on the scene. Minnesota won national duals just five years ago. If anything, the pairing, at least at the time it was designed, singled out Iowa. So to speak. Everyone is matched up geographically, except Nebraska and Wisconsin. Minnesota and Iowa separate them.

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Elfkrieg's picture

Good observation -- it looks like the past five seasons (including this one) are part of the cycle.
Before then, there was not so much regularity.

So, next season we should not face Indiana+Purdue and Michigan+Michigan State..

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colo_buckeye's picture

Iowa completed its schedule without facing Penn State, Michigan or Ohio State.

Good for Iowa.

When will the tournament matchups come out?  I imagine there will be psu/iowa match ups, I don't have any idea how wrestling tourneys work.

Thanks for the updates as always Andy!

God > Family > Buckeyes football

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Molandisi's picture

Each weight class is seeded individually, typically by coaches vote, to account for some wrestlers having built better win-loss records against inferior opposition.  Generally speaking, with the B1G having ten of the InterMat Rankings' top nineteen teams, there's nowhere to hide in the Big Ten Tournament...  the cream will rise to the top. 

Sadly, I don't think OSU has the depth to compete with Penn State this year.

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NorthPoleBuckeye's picture

Where can I find the conference standings? 

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Hovenaut's picture

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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Bucks2K18's picture

Penn State and rivals Penn State and TTUN

FTFY, Penn State is not our rival. 

That's a Buckeye touchdown!

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Andy Vance's picture

In wrestling, Ohio State v. Penn State is most certainly a rivalry, any way you slice it.

Buck61's picture

hey andy, are we going to see the 141 matchup this week or will one or both coaches take their top guys out of the lineup that could effect ncaa seeding

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Andy Vance's picture

are we going to see the 141 matchup this week or will one or both coaches take their top guys out of the lineup that could effect ncaa seeding

Boy oh boy, great question, but my gut says it's happening. McKenna believes in himself, and he's the first guy listed for the athletes talking to the media at this week's availability. That's not to say that something crazy won't happen, but I feel like McKenna wants this match to happen and Yanni D doesn't seem like the type to duck anyone. Heck, he wrestled the back half of last year's NCAA Tournament on a torn ACL, right?

Bucks2K18's picture

I was kinda making a joke. I don't follow wrestling that much as I wouldn't last a second on the mat, but it seems to be a common theme to deny a rivalry with Penn State.

That's a Buckeye touchdown!

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Andy Vance's picture

No harm, no foul 2K18 :)

zeketolliver's picture

Penn St IS a rival.

Whoso would be a man, must be a non-conformist.

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TTUN@SS@SIN's picture

Coach Ryan always has his guys wresting at their peak going into the NCAA tournament. Ohio State will probably finish in second place this year. 

“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” - Mark Twain

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

I'm fully confident the Wrestle Bucks would take down (pun intended?) Iowa...assuming the match isn't at Kinnick Stadium under the lights. 

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DukeofWeimar's picture

125 Lee (IA) tech fall Heinselman (OSU)    Iowa 5 - OSU 0

133 DeSanto (IA) tech fall or MD Pletcher (OSU) Iowa 10/9 - OSU 0

141 McKenna (OSU) MD Turk (IA)  Iowa 10/9 - OSU 4

149 Jordan (OSU)   dec Lugo (IA)    Iowa 10/9 - OSU 7

157 Young (IA)  dec Hayes (OSU)     Iowa 13/12 - OSU 7

165 Marinelli (IA)  MD Romero or Campbell  (OSU)  Iowa 17/16  - OSU 7

174 Smith (OSU)  dec  Shaw (IA)    Iowa 17/16 - OSU 10

184 Martin (OSU) dec Wilcke (IA)    Iowa 17/16 - OSU 13

197 Moore (OSU)  dec Warner (IA)   Iowa 17/16 - OSU 16

285 Stoll (IA)  dec  Singeltary (OSU)  Iowa 20/19 - OSU 16

157 and 174 could go either way. Heinselman or Pletcher might not give up that many points..or could get pinned. Marinelli could possibly earn more than a MD. Martin or Jordan might earn bonus....it would be close...Iowa looks to be better on paper.

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GunnerBuck's picture

I think Martin could MD WIlcke which would make it essentially a toss up as well. Hard to tell but I'd be interested in seeing it happen. Lots of interesting match ups through the B1G's and NCAA's, can't wait to watch it. 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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GunnerBuck's picture

If today is any indication, Iowa is going to be wrecked by PSU. 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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GunnerBuck's picture

I'm kind of surprised Iowa only had 2 wrestlers in the B1G Championship round. Though 7 of 10 in the top 5 is impressive. 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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