ESPN's Early CFB Top 10 (OSU Isn't in It)...discuss.

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mizzer's picture

It’s almost like they made a poll so obviously bad that people would talk about it.

Glad no one here fell for it.

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dubjayfootball90's picture

Auburn top ten hahahah

florida top ten hahahaha

notre dame top ten hahahah

scum top ten hahahaha

SEC three of top four and five of top ten hahahaha

You can feed a bobcat all the chili it wants. That don't mean it's going to crap out diamonds.

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Remington2323's picture

They are high...but screw preseason rankings. We all know what really matters. 

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mittenst8buck's picture

The SEC needs to have a lot of preseason top 10s so when they beat eachother everyone can blow their wad to how good they are and talk about having 2 in the playoffs.

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98sb715's picture

LSU #4? UM #5? Auburn? Oregon? I guess it could have been Clemson and 9 SEC teams. 

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rkylet83's picture

This is what ESPN hopes the top 10 looks like. I know they use a formula but their variables are entirely chosen by what they want their results to be.  They are clamoring for Michigan to be atop the B1G.  Sorry but they have to go through us first.  

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Rocket Man's picture

Not to be dismissive of the post ... but I barely care what the pollsters say in October or November so this is sort of like a mousefart to me.

 Success - it's what you do with what you've got.  - Woody Hayes

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Hovenaut's picture

What's the 'P' stand for again?

Pretentious?

What the fuck ever.

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kareemabduljacobb's picture

Ole Mark Schlabach over @ ESPN had the Bucks 4th I believe in his early rankings.

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Dstacify's picture

Those are FPI computer-generated rankings based on returning production from a year ago. Ergo, they're bullshit. Fields is our ace in the hole to the top.

11 Strong.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

This is pure page clickbait bullshit. ESPN would rank us No. 25 but they dont want to see their headquarters burned to the ground, they just want to piss us all off so we'll visit their stupid pages. Dont feed the trolls.

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Canukbuck's picture

How the hell is TTUN ranked in the top 20 ??  They got hammered in their most important game of the year (which was supposed to be the year it all turned around for them), they've lost the two best defensive coaches on their staff, they have no running backs left in the cupboard, their O-Line is worthless and they lost most of the "best defense" in college ball.  They must be ranked in the top 10 because of their punter .....

They should be embarrassed for putting out such a senseless list ....

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youra6's picture

But they do have the best QB in the B1G! /s

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grantlandR's picture

Bertie and Jeeves won't put up with this nonsense!

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Ahh Saturday's picture

Urban Meyer is a legend, one of the all-time greats, and a tremendous contributor to the Ohio State program. But he was not Urban Meyer last year. Anybody expecting the Buckeyes to take a step back in '19 because of coaching is in for a big surprise. Not sure what they'll do once they get there, but our Buckeyes are going to the CFP next year.

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RedsBuckeyeBoy's picture

Michigan at 5? I guess they forgot about the last game on their schedule. 

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The Cynic's picture

I don’t see how anyone could make a case for scUM, ND, or especially Auburn being ranked so highly. Just look at the personnel lost with each of them. And Auburn and scUM weren’t even top 10 last year. 

1. Clemson 

2 Bama 

3. tOSU

4. Georgia 

5. Oklahoma 

6. Oregon 

7. LSU 

8. Florida 

9. UCF

10. Army- don’t be shocked if they upset scUM in week 2. They return 20 starters including all 11 on a defense that ranked 8th last year. They’ll be favored in every other game.

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CincyBuck's picture

10. Army- don’t be shocked if they upset scUM in week 2. They return 20 starters including all 11 on a defense that ranked 8th last year. They’ll be favored in every other game.

Nope.

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Buckfrombirth's picture

Is this "nope you don't agree" or "nope, TTUN won't beat Army"? Just wondering.

I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.

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CincyBuck's picture

Sorry; fair point.  IMO, no way is Army the No. 10 team in the country.  I'd be absolutely shocked.

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Buckfrombirth's picture

Totally agree. But I smiled at the thought of Army taking them down.

I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.

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Bukirob's picture

IDK they were 11-2 last year HAMMERED Houston in their bowl game and Oklahoma barely escaped that game with a win 28-21.  If they were to upset Michigan very, very good chance they go unbeaten

You WIN with people.

 

 

WW Hayes

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NorthBerg's picture

The only rankings that matter are the ones by the CFP committee come early next December. As to this poll in the OP, based on proven returning offensive and defensive production, a  second ten ranking is not unreasonable in February. The uncertainty is what will make the 2019 Buckeye football exciting.

Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72

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CharlieBuckeye's picture

Oh - the utter outrage of where our Buckeyes are ranked in a pre-season poll!! Every year these ass hats come up with a poll anointing teams as being in the top 10 and every year they are wrong at the end of the year. Take these polls for what they are worth - NOTHING!!!!!!!

GO BUCKEYES!!!!!

"To have a great life simply follow this rule:  Do not bring undo conflict into your life..."

Charlie Baker - OSU - 1986

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PhillyNut's picture

Believe it or not Tennessee is in their top 25.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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buckinmich's picture

Um, you do know this is a football poll, not a basketball poll, right?

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703Buckeye's picture

Seriously, it's February. Rankings barely mean anything during the season, let alone 6 months before kickoff.

"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

My counter is that it’s the off-season. Stuff like this is what we are supposed to talk about.

Also, these ranking will matter. The deck is still being stacked for SEC dominance narrative...which most definitely affects the regular season.

As I said in the OP, OSU having a new QB and Coach and lots of transition could lead to not being ranked but there are some highly questionable rankings in there, which are head scratchers (looking at you Michigan , especially).

You win with people. 

And so forth...

9 Units Strong!

 

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TeddyKGB's picture

You are doing exactly what ESPN wants people to do with their opinionated lists.  Spread the clicks far and wide.

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gobucks96's picture

More click bait by ESPN, nothing new....Known about this for years.

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ApollosGYRO's picture

Whatever moves the needle. Football fans that actually follow the sport would have something similar to this:

  1.  Clemson
  2.  Bama
  3.  OSU
  4.  Georgia
  5.  Oklahoma
  6.  LSU
  7.  Texas
  8.  Florida
  9.  ND
  10.  ttun

Also keep in mind fellow buckeye fans, they are PRESEASON polls. This will change mightily come October

Is it April 13th yet?

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BIGTIMEBUCKS's picture

Not that it matters but I would probably slot OSU behind Georgia and probably OU as well but I think it can go either way.

"The Edge is where average stops and elite begins"

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OSU56's picture

More verification ESECPN has no idea......they just want the "clicks".

Enjoying daily the back to back ttun beatdowns.

 

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BrewstersMillions's picture

How do you figure?

Proudly dispensing unbridled arrogance since 1983.

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buckz4evr's picture

I hope they underestimate us for most of the season...exactly how the did in '14.

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Goby's picture

This is a good thing. I'd rather see a young team spend the entire off season preparing with a chip on their shoulder than take reps. off to read about how great they are.

Coach Mick has great bulletin board material already.

You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Just cancel the season. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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BuckeyeAsylum's picture

Field is where it matters, don't care what ESPN thinks/formulates.

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EvanstonBuckeye's picture

Having a hard time getting worked up about this. 

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BacknBlack's picture

Take the disrespect now and show them all up later!

Anybody that places scUM and Notre Lame in their top 15 is a display of far reaching incompetence.

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Trout dog's picture

Ohio State should replace Michigan. Texas should replace Notre Dame and Texas A&M should replace Auburn.

Trout Dog

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

Solid suggestions. Thnx.

You win with people. 

And so forth...

9 Units Strong!

 

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Atl_Buckeye72's picture

Not a bad call!!! I'm not so sure that we should necessarily be #5 due to the amount of change that we are going through. However, due to empirical evidence I don't see how Mich should be either. Texas not being in seems really odd but I guess they aren't returning a lot.

Everyone is overly worked up over this. FPI really means nothing....especially now considering that a lot of FPI is based off of on the field performance. I certainly don't claim to be an expert in this field but they are justifying the low Ohio St rank based on Fields being an unproven QB. This whole thing seems based on their view of a team's QB proficiency and returning personel. They clearly hold Kelly Bryant, Jalen Hurts and Shea Patterson in high regard. This doesn't explain Auburn, Penn St, Mich St, Tenn, or S Carolina though.

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BrewstersMillions's picture

100% based on the two most important positions being unknowns. Day is probably going to be a stud and Fields is probably going to be a beast. By the time October rolls around, OSU will be sitting comfortably in the top 3.

This.Stuff.Does.Not.Matter.

Proudly dispensing unbridled arrogance since 1983.

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Sanantonefan's picture

I couldn't care less--the only rankings I care about happen towards the end of the season...

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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Worthington Buck's picture

I really want to say "LOL ESPN, who cares"

But it seems pretty obvious they are one of if not the largest voice in the room when it comes to the CFP and sadly this stuff matters.

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westy81585's picture

Pro tip:  STOP GOING TO ESPN.

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SirRyanDay's picture

Take care of business and see these haters in January. 

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buckeyerose's picture

ESiPN=That box of rocks!  All the more reason not to watch or listen or visit the boxes website.  

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mr.green's picture

Love this poll. What’s wrong with starting outside the top 10? 

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Buckfrombirth's picture

Agreed - absolutely nothing wrong with this. 2002 started with a #13 preseason rank, in case anyone remembers. Take one game at a time and don't get blown out by a crappy B1G West team. The rankings will sort themselves out.

I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

I’m not really concerned with our position. We have a new coach and QB.  I can see why they’d leave us out (though I still think we should crack it). 

Where all this love for Michigan, Auburn, Florida, etc. comes from is beyond me though. It’s not like they were great in 2018. Plus, those teams lost some of the better players from 2018.

You win with people. 

And so forth...

9 Units Strong!

 

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D56GoBucks's picture

I have mixed opinions on the whole "ESPN hates Ohio State" narrative, but some of you folks are just looking for a reason to suggest it. If you read the entire article, it discusses why Ohio State isn't in the top 10. The story basically says why FPI is a flawed metric. ESPN has already shown what they think of the Buckeyes in their 2019 way-too-early poll, and you can bet they'll have the Buckeyes in the top 6 when they release their final preseason poll as well.

"Anything easy ain't worth a damn"

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rdalchemy's picture

Good teams but strange list. I think being left off the list helps the team. I hope they continue to get picked to have a lame season, maybe 3rd in the league. Nothing fires up young players like being picked to stink.

Zbuddha

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johnblairgobucks's picture

Just wait till ESPN comes out with their Way To Early Heisman Trophy Finalist List. Expect it to be Lawrence, Tua, Hurts and Patterson...lol, 2019 gonna be a fun ride.

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Arsenal7's picture

watch today as 11w gets mad at math itself

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bd2999's picture

Too early to care. That OSU would not be in the top group does not bother me. They have a new coach, a new QB and new coaching staff on defense outside of LJ.

The top two are hard to argue with, after that. Who cares at this point. Win on the field and let things sort their way out. The SEC, when football gets going again, will always get a benefit of a doubt. Two losses will be considered great because you lost to Alabama or Georgia. By far the best two loss team in football and so on.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

ESPN has an agenda... Big surprise!

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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ANOTHERMICHIGANLOSS's picture

This is FPI, which the QB position weighs heavily.  It does not credit Fields as being part of a recruiting class.  It basically lumps him in with a true freshman QB walking into Wake Forest that is supposed to start.  The guys that put out opinion polls doe not have the same top 10.

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Das Hufeisen's picture

ESPN is actually being unfair to the SEC.  If they were being impartial and unbiased they would've had Miss St and Tennessee in the Top 10 also.

/s

AKA the Horseshoe, the Shoe, and the House That Harley Built

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Not_Sure's picture

 That will happen in week two

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Osurrt's picture

You know what. I am okay with this. Take a look at the Twitter feeds of the players. A pissed-off, underdogs team works harder from February through the heat of August. These guys will be ready to bring it on Opening Day. An angry team is a hungry team.

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stxbuck's picture

5 SEC teams in the Top 10-that's cool, but they will eat each other up in conference, so the pre-season rankings mean absolutely nothing. tOSU will be better than scUM or Oregon next year. ND benefitted last year from having a tough paper schedule, but the on field reality of said teams-USC,VT,FSU,Stanford-was quite different from pre-season perceptions.

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earthpig's picture

Good..  I'd have this shit posted at the Woody..  In the weight room..  In the pisser etc..

Pigskins & Porkrinds

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thedewman10's picture

When EsecN reporters take too much meth, it isn’t good. And they have been smoking for awhile now.

TheDewMan10

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HoosierBuck's picture

Psychologically it's great. Bucks always play better when dissed or mad! Otherwise like the above poster stated" who cares"?

Espin gets no clicks from this one.

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buckinmich's picture

I have it on good authority that Ohio State is on ESPN's ineligible to rank anywhere list.  Michigan at 5th?  They must have not watched last years game.

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Abuckeye15's picture

Anything that comes from ESPN this early before spring practice....

36-24-36? Ha ha, only if she's 5'3"

I’m not sure what time it is, but Xichigan still sucks

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Earthoid.'s picture

This is unfortunately going to be the narrative all the way up to the point we beat a team in the CFP semi-finals.  Our schedule is weak this year and with all the "newness" the narrative will be that we haven't proven ourselves against a top team.  Looking at our schedule, we may not even get that chance the entire regular season.  This may be the weakest overall the B1G has been in a while, and we don't have any OOC games like OU, TCU, etc. this year.  Our two hardest regular season test this year will be PSU and UM.  The pundits will apply unrealistic standards to us as always, and we will have to completely dominate our schedule to gain any amount of respect.

That said, there are some real question marks - number one being, is Justin Fields actually who we think he is.  Second and almost as big of a question, will our defense take a step forward or backward.  Our DB's still haven't proven themselves, we don't even have that one lockdown corner that we've been blessed with for the last how many years.  Our d-line has huge potential but is largely unproven.  And our LB's need to step up this year.

I know this is pure garbage from espin, but to be honest, it's going to be a long time till any of us have answers and can be truly confident about this team.  And really, out of the last decade, if we were ever in for a "rebuilding" year it would be this one (save 2011).  I'm usually the homerest of the homers, but I don't know about this year, feels like it could either go incredibly well, or incredibly mediocre.

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Silver_Bullet's picture

In ESPN, thou shalt not trust.  In every pre-season ranking, thou shalt not trust even further.

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NewPhilaFan's picture

Actually, ESPN has the Buckeyes ranked 5th in their opinion poll from their pundits.  The OP reference is to the FPI which is based upon returning production.

Let's Go Bucks

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Ryan.Honeycutt's picture

I’m in agrreance with everyone that is saying “who the hell cares” about these useless rankings this time of year... AP, coaches, FPI, they are all going to change as soon as the season starts and once our buckeyes start showing the nation what they are made of, respect will be earned... it’s just so frustrating seeing teams (I.e. SEC teams/ ACC teams) that are way over ranked getting love in the polls solely to build the resumes of bama or Clemson or Georgia... I’m just so pumped about this upcoming season and to see what coach day can do as the man in charge... I’m 100% confident that once our boys in scarlet and grey kick off the year it’s going to be trouble for all opponents and rankings will reflect 

bleed scarlet and grey

RyanPH

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Smitty516's picture

By January 2020 we will be number 1...

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CleveState's picture

People getting this angry over a computer ranking without understanding how the ranking is formed is prettty funny. 

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Scarlet_Fire's picture

scum unironically being listed top 5

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GunnerBuck's picture

I am completely ok being ranked outside of the top 10. Let our new OL, QB and coaching staff come in motivated to get back where we belong. 

Lets ger er dun boys! 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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Buckbuster's picture

ESPN is such bone heads its unwatchable. All season long all they could say was how Alabama was head and shoulders above every other team. The minute they got beat all they could say was Clemson was head and shoulders above every other team. I feel we could have hung with either team. Plus after the treatment they gave Haskin's I won't be watching them again. Idiot's.

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OSU56's picture

What comes to mind when ESECPN prints this crap...………...

Enjoying daily the back to back ttun beatdowns.

 

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