Did Anyone Check out the AAF?

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cajunbuckeye's picture

I did not watch and have nothing relevant to add to the conversation...

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KBonay's picture

Mike Bercovici and Christian Hackenberg are awful QB’s. 

Otherwise, somewhat entertaining.  And IMO, better than an NBA game. 

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osu992's picture

Heard this before.

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smibr37's picture

And they had the ratings to prove it.  The San Antonio game had a higher rating than whatever NBA game was on.

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CharlotteBuckeye's picture

Mike Bercovici and Christian Sackenberg are awful QB’s. 

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2. See rule #1.

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BuckeyeBulldog's picture

Sackenburg is still getting paid to play football?
For all the jokes I've made about the QB guru in AA he is still the most overrated qb I've seen in years.

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osu992's picture

I was busy with the Basketbucks. They played Indiana today. Blew a nine point lead, but they put it together at the last minute to pull off a three point win in a low scoring affair. Maybe I'll look into the AAF next week. Like a restaurant: need to let them get past the soft open before forming opinions. But I can't withhold mine, so I'll give them space for now.

New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.

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Browns88's picture

Watched the Birmingham Iron crush Memphis today.   It was okay

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NHBuckeye's picture

I watched San Antonio beat San Diego last night.  It was an ok game.  KB said it above, qb play was awful.  Martz actually pulled his starter, LOL.   

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

Noticed the QB play as well. I would assume it's hard to convince some of the guys currently sitting on NFL practice squads to join a startup league. Those guys are probably still holding out hope their chance at the NFL isn't done. Perhaps with a year or two under their belts they will start to get some better QBs? 

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Phoenix824's picture

Offense looked like they needed more practice time together but was worth a watch. If level of play stays this way over season it will die quickly. If play and offense improves it will have some legs. Mostly looked like o-lines needed time to jell and QB WR timing was off.

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NewPhilaFan's picture

I didn't see any of the games but I know that Jalin Marshall threw a TD pass to the QB.

69 in 18

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Seattle Linga's picture

I know he caught the first ever TD

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Major H's picture

Snowbird special! LOL!

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Yep. Saturday night Orlando thumped Atlanta 40-3. Jalin Marshall threw a TD pass to Orlando's QB on a throw-back play. Best play of the night. Akeem Hunt also played for Orlando trying to get back into the NFL. Doran Grant played for Atlanta but got hurt. I just watched a bit of the Arizona-Salt Lake game. Arizona is pretty good too.

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Major H's picture

I saw Grant make one solid stick. Didn't know he got hurt. Hope it's nothing serious.

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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GunnerBuck's picture

It's entertaining and I do like a lot of the rule changes. Not a fan of only being able to rush 5 though, I suspect that will change pretty quickly though.

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Iwouldliketotalktoyou's picture

I thought it was pretty good stuff. Seemed like the refs let them play. Tom Brady would want NO part of this league. QB's seem to be fair game for defensive ends at this point. I found it entertaining and appreciated the speed of the game. The San Antonio game was over in about 2:40. I liked that.

Gotta love it.

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jthailey47's picture

Yepp. Live in Orlando so I grabbed season tickets with some buddies. Had an absolute blast! Had fun with the random groups out tailgating. Then the game itself was great. Orlando really put up the points when the rest of the league looked pretty rough. Surprisingly pretty excited for the next game.

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macdaddybuckeyesupreme's picture

I saw the highlights for the Orlando game. so far they look like the best team. I actually hope both the aaf and xfl are successful, heck I hope the arena league gets better. More football = good for the soul

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buckzilla1's picture

Hackenstunk was just plain awful. Easy to see why he never took a pro snap in the real NFL. I don't like the stupid only 5 can rush. But i love that you can kill the QB so there is that.

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GunnerBuck's picture

I'm secretly hoping it can replace some of college football and fundamentally change the NCAA (and of course add a Columbus team) 

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Ludwig Yards's picture

Watched the San Antonio-Diego game, it was fine. Pretty big talent disparity compared to the NFL, and it was obvious, but it was football in February so can't complain much. Might be the last game I see for a while though since it seems almost all of the games are on CBSSN or NFL Network, neither of which I have. 

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Worthington Buck's picture

From what I saw QB play is going to be a real issue.  IMO around the rest of the field there's not a huge drop off from a rotational player vs a guy who didn't make the roster and is now in this league.  But QB, there's a massive drop off from an average starter to a guy on the street.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Noticed that too. And if any QB has success they will quickly be signed to the NFL which only makes the QB pool weaker.

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DefenceWinsChampionships's picture

On the flip side of that, if the ratings are good and the league is successful, maybe you see player salaries grow to the point where some backups and journey men decide they'd rather start for an AAF team than ride the pine in the NFL. Not just at QB, but at every position. It would be great if things eventually got to that point.

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michaec5's picture

Strong opening weekend IMO. I’m okay with the rules, think they add some much needed punch to the game. Commanders have some swagger, Apollo’s have a strong offense and the Iron have a pretty solid defense for the level of play. QB play left something to be desired but also looked like they were playing loose and taking risk, a lot of the time it was paid off by great wide receiver play. I’m torn between the Apollo’s and the Commanders, but I think the Fleet and Stallions uniforms look cool. I don’t think this is a league that’s going to drop off anytime soon, seems to be gaining real traction on social and I’ve already seen conversation, by the AAF, about expanding to 12 teams next year and adding 4 additional cities.

~michaec5

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

I watched a little bit of the San Diego/San Antonio game, and it wasn't too bad. They put a pretty high quality product on the field, so I'll for sure at least be giving it another glance or two.

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bucksfan92's picture

I watched parts of the San Antonio game and parts of the Birmingham game.  Both were awful.  Mostly boring football with the only scoring coming from FGs.  IT sounds like Orlando scored a bunch thanks to Jalin Marshall, but unfortunately that game wasn't on TV in Cbus, or if it was, it was hard to find. I won't likely be watching any more and I'll be surprised if the league makes it past year 1.

Bring on the Arena League!

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BIGTIMEBUCKS's picture

Will be interesting to see if it can gain traction and be viable beyond a season or two. I did see one thing I really liked during an official receive. They had a live camera set-up in the review booth where the booth reviewer was talking through the play to the onfield ref. Gave a good glimpse at how they assess the play and come to their conclusion. Liked the transparency.

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BackInAction's picture

So, is the AAF a developmental league (aka AA/AAA baseball) or the leftovers league (one time NFL hoping to get another chance to play football under any scenario)?

Seems like to be a dev league, they'd need full NFL support as dev leagues don't make money on their own.  They are just a place for players to gain experience and/or prove their worth.  Moreover, dev league front-offices and coaches aren't there to 'win' just develop talent.  So, front-office/coach/player motivation is a bit subjective.

I'm not sure what a leftovers league can accomplish long term?  I like watching, but can they survive with NBA regular season like TV ratings?  Especially in this day and age in which everyone bitches about everything that isn't 'perfect' or the 'best'?

FWIW, I really liked the pace of play.  The game seemed to be constantly moving.  I'm sure that made for a great in-stadium experience and it certainly helped with the in-home experience.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

It's a development league for anyone not on an NFL roster or practice squad the year before. I would characterize the new XFL is going to be a "left over" league because the AAFL players had to sign 3-year contracts which prevents them from playing in the XFL. Most of the players in the AAFL will be invited to NFL camps.

One thing financially the AAFL has going for it is the league owns all the teams, much like how MLS and European soccer is organized. Theyve kept their overhead costs down enough that it will turn a profit just as long as they can get the ad revenue, which they are getting. One of the AAFL's main investors is MGM International which has pumped like $150M into the league already.

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Seattle Linga's picture

It does help with the long off season. 

Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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InfantryBuckeye5150's picture

It's quickly becoming a guilty pleasure to me. Like watching the Canadian Football Leagure, or listening to Duran Duran! 

Well, Columbus wasn't looking for America, my man, but that turned out to be pretty okay for everyone.

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GunnerBuck's picture

There will be guys who can make this league a very respectable career. Something like 250k/3 year contracts plus health insurance and education stipend. While its obviously not NFL money, they players call also leave whenever they want to go to the "big leagues". 

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kmp10's picture

Watched both games I had available to me, and I thought it was solid football. Lots of familiar names, and lots of transparency with the officiating. Regular season basketball has become unwatchable for me, so this league is a godsend in my house. 

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Buckeyeinsc's picture

I live in South Carolina but my wife and I decided to pull for Orlando. The game was a blast. There are some growing pains but overall the league definitely shows promise. Loved how few commercials there were. Definitely love how transparent they are on penalties and reviews. The mic'ed up feature is cool getting to hear the players and coaches during the game. Steve Spurrier calling Jalin Marshall to get wide just before his touchdown catch was pretty sweet.

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Rollin'85South's picture

Things I liked:

Games are televised on CBS, CBSSN, NFL Network and you can watch all games on their website or app. There are only 4 games every weekend so not super time consuming.  

Faster game. No kickoffs and no extra points, so changing sides went faster not having to put special teams in for 1 play. Commercials were split screen so there was to stop in the action. 

Replay wasn’t a mystery man in space. You seen and heard the exchange between the booth and the field referee and understood the reasoning behind the call. 

There were some good hits and not a bunch of targeting calls like the NFL.

Only thing I didn’t like:

No blitz. Only 5 guys max can rush the QB. They did this because they threw the teams together with short notice and the linemen haven’t really had time to gel together. I expect this to change after a season of them playing together. 

Overall I’d compare it to 2 top 10 college teams going at it. The QB’s were the only position that was noticeably lackluster. But even they had some decent plays. 

Heres a rundown of players that I was either familiar with or kids from universities in the state of Ohio.

Arizona Hotshots

Trevor Knight QB Texas A&M

Josh Huff WR Oregon

Brant Weiss OL Toledo

Scooby Wright LB Arizona

Salt Lake Stallions

Kenny Bell WR Nebraska 

San Antonio Commanders

Logan Woodside QB Toledo

David Cobb RB Minnesota 

Greg Ward Jr. WR (played QB at Houston under Herman)

Jovann Letuli OL Akron

Austin Larkin LB Purdue

Jayrone Elliott LB Toledo

Nick Orr DB TCU

San Diego Fleet

Marcus Baugh TE Ohio State

Jude Adjei-Barima CB Bowling Green

Atlanta Players

Aaron Murray QB Georgia

Matt Simms QB Tennessee 

Denard Robinson RB TTUN

Akrum Wadley RB Iowa

James Quick WR Louisville 

Chase Farris OT Ohio State

JT Jones DE Miami(OH)

Tracy Sprinkle DT Ohio State

Jeff Luc LB Cincinnati 

Doran Grant DB Ohio State

Birmingham Iron

Blake Sims QB Alabama

Trent Richardson RB Alabama

Ty Isaac RB TTUN

Quan Bray WR Auburn

Casey Sayles DT Ohio

Memphis Express

Zach Mettenberger QB LSU

Christian Hackenberg QB PSU

Adrien Robinson TE Cincinnati 

Channing Stribling DB TTUN

Orlando Apollos 

Austin Appleby QB Florida

De’Veon Smith RB TTUN

Akeem Hunt RB Purdue

Jalin Marshall WR Ohio State

Donteea Dye Jr WR Heidelberg

Izaah Burks DT Bowling Green

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stxbuck's picture

For future worthless Buckeye trivia reference, Jalin Marshall scored the first TD in the history of the AAF.

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