Ryan Day, Ohio State Could Be Looking to Get Back into Heavily Recruiting Cincinnati Area

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Hovenaut's picture

"M...igan...(has) begun to make significant in-roads to the area."

Not their first time around, Joe Bolden from Colerain first came to mind.

Feel good about what Day and staff are doing, they're keeping a national presence without overlooking the backyard. 

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

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IsJoeFlaccoElite's picture

I didn’t follow Jowon Briggs recruitment, but I know 247 had him as a top 100 prospect.

How in the world did Virginia get him?

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Briggs recruitment is sort of a mystery. He had "offers" from OSU, UM, PSU, ND, and Bama but none of those schools pushed for a commitment. Very strange for that to be the case with a kid who ended up in the top 100.

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Browns88's picture

Cincinnati Skyline Chili is the best

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Hockinghillsbilly's picture

No arrow down, but yuck !

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SoutherOHBuckeye's picture

Gold Star Chili is tops!

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RBloodworth's picture

Neither one is good as some of the smaller mom-and-pops, like Price Hill, Camp Washington, Empress or Blue Ash.

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wyatt's picture

Any chili is good to me. It's one of those foods that taste even better the next day heated up.

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Steps1110's picture

Gold Star, Camp Washington>>>>skyline

Steps

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High Street Street Fighter's picture

I could eat Cincinnati Chili every day for the rest of my life ---maybe mix in a little LaRosas and Graeters for good measure....but man, do I love Cinti Chili.

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FLBuckeyeRick's picture

It's about time they focused attention there. There's too much talent in 513 to continue letting them go to Notre Dame, TTUN or _ichigan State.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

As a native Cincinnatian, fewer things make me prouder than seeing local kids playing for the Buckeyes. Jake Seibert, the #1 2020 PK, is at La Salle. Throw in Johnson, James, Darrion Henry, Jaheim Thomas and Jutahn McClain and Cincinnati is loaded with P5 prospects.

Since Munford graduated from Massillon, is it right to still credit him to Cincinnati?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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joeb69's picture

Considering that's where he grew up and played football his entire life except for his Senior season I'd say it is, I still to this day credit Adolphus Washington as a Roger Bacon Spartan even though he graduated from Taft lol

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Jamarkus's picture

He’s born and raised in Cincy but played one year at Massillon, yet all you see is that he’s “from Massillon”.  And wasn’t there a scandal involving his eligibility and living arrangements at Massillon that got the coach fired and caused Munford to miss several games?

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GlassCityBuckeyes's picture

The last #1 pk option that escaped the home team ended up windmilling down the field on us. Iets not let another one escape.

Noon games suck

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Silver Sniper's picture

Oh was that the douchey-do from MSU?

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Steps1110's picture

You can take a kid out of cincy but you can never take the cincy out of a kid. Munford knows where home is.

Steps

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wyatt's picture

As a fellow native (grew up on a dairy farm) from Southwest Ohio, I feel great when any local does well. 

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hetuck's picture

Washington is the key. Need to have long-term relationship. If Hartline does the same for northeast Ohio, OSU will be in great shape. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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NHBuckeye's picture

Can’t underestimate how huge getting Al Washington here is.  For so many reasons.  

Is it Spring yet?  

Fields of Dreams

 

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

"Is it Spring yet?"

Have you asked Punxsutawney Phil?

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Qb Spy's picture

Phil's on our side this time 'round.

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rblackbu's picture

A reliable guy out of Cincy shared details of citing the major reason why the Anderson Kid, Zeke, went to ND over OSU...Mom was petrified at how regimented OSU football program. Wanted more football/school balance for her boy...mom wanted ND.

Yeah, not great insight into OSU recruiting Cincy...but it’s somewhat of a nugget.

"When you help someone up a hill, you get that much closer to the top yourself..."

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2morrow's picture

I think ND will  always have strong pull in Cincy due to the huge Catholic population. Cincy has one of the largest concentration of Catholic Schools in the country.

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Steelydan54's picture

Football/Life balance=NFL opportunity.  That's why we have 'Real Life Wednesday's', to throw a bit of balance into the NFL prep school that is Ohio State. I'd say if player lets mom make that choice, he made the right decision. 

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Zone's picture

Being from Cincinnati I hear a lot about the lack of Buckeye presences in the area and how a stand out isn't getting any looks. I have personally watched Jakob James play twice and was blown away by his play, and the Buckeyes extended a late offer which was accepted shortly after. He's a 3* now but will be a 4* and possibly 5* on some ranking sites. This is so true, A lot of schools overlook the intangibles and spend too much time on the measurables.

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BengalErnst's picture

The buckeyes didn’t extend a late offer to him...

Nicholas l Ernst

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Zone's picture

They offered him later than 15 other schools like Michigan and Nebraska and Jakob kept sending in his film to Day.

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Dstacify's picture

We've had plenty of good players come from that area before. Adolphus Washington and Sam Hubbard both come to mind in particular.

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wyatt's picture

I think Travis Kelce (from Cleveland) was a 2-3 * out of high school. He went to UC. Now the best TE in the NFL. Some said Woody was a genius at talent recognition. 

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Dillon G's picture

Scott stood just 5-foot-10 heading into his college career, and his measurables certainly did not stick out on paper.

How does one measure the chip on a shoulder? 

#walkaway

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Major H's picture

Especially after a snub!

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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BuckminsterFullback's picture

I understand why an Ohio kid who doesn't get an offer from OSU might feel snubbed, and why fans from his high school or conference might feel snubbed by association.
A lack of an offer isn't necessarily an assertion by the OSU staff that a kid isn't a legit, or even an elite, prospect. Sometimes it reflects a belief by the staff that a prospect doesn't project as a great fit with the scheme that OSU plays. Sometimes it reflects areas of need on the roster, based on previous classes.
But I certainly don't blame kids for using it as motivation; it's human nature, and it's frequently effective.

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.

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bucks15's picture

i think a big reason for the focus on Ohio is the staff probably knows they can’t be as National because a lot of those kids came here specifically for Urban.  

Take the bigger/stronger/faster player 9 times out of 10, all else equal is when you take the Ohio kid.

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Dstacify's picture

I don't think that's it. Day has shown he can recruit out of state just fine. I think his renewed emphasis on Ohio is his way of showing he cares about the state (something that our last out-of-state born HC John Cooper didn't always do). Day I have no doubt knows that many OSU fans view him VERY skeptically because he's not an Ohio guy and the last non-Ohio guy we hired couldn't beat our rivals. All the in-state recruiting focus isn't going to completely eliminate out-of-state recruiting altogether.

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stxbuck's picture

Yes, a lot of the dumber section of the commentariat view OOS recruiting/starchasing as an all or nothing thing. Day isn't an idiot-he will pursue the no brainer talent OOS prospects, he just isn't going to get overwhelmed by the national hype like Urban did-he won't be afraid to make the call on if an Ohio kid is skilled enough to contribute the way the staff expects.

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Nutinpa's picture

Not for nothing, but our recently stepped down Ohio-born coach didn’t worry too much about Ohio kids either, especially if he had his eye on a four or five star kid from Georgia or Texas.  Say what you want about recruiting nationally and not apologizing for it.  But I’d bet my next two paychecks and sleep well, knowing a lot of Ohio high school coaches hope the door Meyer walked through didn’t hit him in the ass on his way out.  Ryan Day is both recruiting and mending fences throughout the state. Let’s not be naive. 

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WestSideTower'79's picture

Or maybe the out-of-state Day noticed during his 2 years on staff that literally every team we played got a standout performance by a 3 star Ohio native that never got so much as a look-see from the Meyer staff. And in each season we got bush-whacked by a far less talented team as our out-of-state All-American candidates walked around in a daze, confounded by the idea that the other guys wanted it more.  

Under Meyer, the only games our players left the field bleeding Scarlet and Gray were the 7 against scUM and Bama, maybe the ND bowl game but then everyone's motivated to beat the Irish. Everything else was pretty much viewed as practice, even PSU and MSU.

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buckslan's picture

Those embarrassing losses aren't because of underrated 3* Ohio recruits with chips on their shoulder. It's because of a lack of coaching and a fault in the scheme/play calling.

When less talented teams beat more talented teams (I.e. An upset) it's almost always on the coaching or lack thereof.

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The Rill Dill's picture

I agree. I thinked we looked like shit in 70 of the 80 games Urban coached. 

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Ohio Guy in Jersey's picture

There is no reason both points can’t be true. Day wants to show he’s interested in Ohio talent. But there’s a practical reason for that: he doesn’t have the national pull that Urban Meyer did. That’s just a fact. 

Now OSU is a national brand, so he can go after those 5* guys. But Meyer won more than his share. Day will too, if he can establish his own repays a head coach. The good news is that this roster has a ton of talent.

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okiebuck's picture

Seems like all of Coach Day's hires have recruiting connections in certain areas of the country and in Ohio. I like what he's doing, wall off Ohio AND recruit nationally.

The only hard day was yesterday

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GoBucks10's picture

Good town, that 513.

I hate the offseason.

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Keze's picture

We are just going to piss Fickel off, tread lightly.

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Texbuckbear's picture

Heh, heh, heh.  As long as Luke is at UC, I hope he does well at recruiting the local talent.

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Cooper's picture

To be fair, a lot of those kids are having success because they chose a school (Michigan State, Northwestern, etc.) where they have an ability to compete for the depth chart right away. Antonio Williams didn’t sniff any regular playing time at OSU, yet had a very successful season last year with UNC. Point being, the majority of those guys would get swallowed up by the competition. Heck, it’s happening right now even with highly recruited players like Hilliard, Hausmann, DeMario slightly, Riep, etc. A lot of these Ohio kids are solid football players, and outside of a couple misses, I don’t see much wrong with the current OSU recruiting tactics.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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Dstacify's picture

Tbf Hilliard A) has had multiple injuries that have completely set his career back and B) right now should be starting over Pete Werner (hopefully Al Washington corrects that mistake in 2019).

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Cooper's picture

Agree on all fronts.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Antonio Williams didn’t sniff any regular playing time at OSU, yet had a very successful season last year with UNC.

Not trying to hijack the thread and at the risk of sounding overly critical, I wouldn’t say Williams had a “very successful” season at UNC. Considering how bad UNC was, I’d call it “okay” at best.

2017 (12-2 OSU): 8 games, 57 carries, 290 yards (5.1 average), 3 TDs

2018 (2-9 UNC): 9 games, 91 carries, 504 yards (5.5 average), 5 TDs

While he had 34 more carries, 314 more yards and two more TDs than 2017, his overall stats don’t jump off the page.

(In my opinion, all the other noise aside, Williams [and others] playing without having to sit out a year is defense exhibit #1 for Justin Fields to be ruled eligible in 2019.)

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Nutinpa's picture

So if Williams had nothing but garbage time carries this past season as a Buckeye it would’ve been a “good season”  for him just because he played on a winning team?  But the fact that he was a featured RB on a team with a losing record somehow means he made a poor or just okay decision?  You’ve confused me, Iowa.  

And.... like everyone, I hope Fields is immediately available to play this season. But I don’t see where Williams’ situation had anything in common with that of Fields.  

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Fields and Williams both played significant minutes in the season before they transferred. Williams was not required to sit. Why should Fields? That’s what’s similar. Pretty simple.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Steelydan54's picture

Good to see see Day mine the Buckeye state a bit more thoroughly, as he may not have the Brand to walk into anyone in America's living room off a phone call-yet.  Better evaluation leads to more hits/fewer misses, whether they be 3 or 5 star players, so maybe we get more of that also vs just chasing 4-5* list athletes. I'm sure a blend of both will be needed and am glad to see Day start at home in the Buckeye State, including Cincitucky!

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

I love how day is prioritizing Ohio, I hope it doesn't come at the cost of forgetting the national recruits. We need to have a balance of securing our home state(tressel) and going after the elite recruits nation wide(Meyer).

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joethejester's picture

Day was just in Hawaii this week recruiting. I don’t think he is dropping the national approach. 

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EnonBuck79's picture

Recruiting warmer weather maybe...

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216ToThe614's picture

It's nice to see Ryan Day put emphasis on Ohio (as he absolutely should) but he also shouldn't reach for guys in-state just because they're in-state. Many have bemoaned Urban's lack of focus on in-state talent, but what are the examples of guys we didn't get that we also didn't replace with someone better from out of state? We lose Carman, we get NPF. The only one that makes any sense is losing Kraemer since his replacement was Michael Jordan and Kramer was a top 30 player, but would there be anyone willing to argue Kraemer had the better career to this point? I'm from Cleveland and I love seeing Cleveland guys make their way down to OSU, but the Glenville pipeline has been dead since Worley, and I'm not that upset about that we haven't been offering guys there. You must always seek out the best talent and get it if you have the chance, wherever it comes from.

We have won at over a 90% pace over the past 7 years, regularly embarrass our rival (who takes the 3-star, in-state guys) and have accomplished essentially everything we can control talent-wise. I do not want to see anything to change in that regard. It's great that over the next two classes the state of Ohio is producing more than a few guys with national talent, and we should pursue them hard, but it shouldn't change the overall emphasis of finding the best players vs. taking someone like Josiah Scott - who would be warming the bench for 3 years behind guys like Wade, Okudah, Tyreke Johnson, Sevyn Banks, etc., just like Marcus Williamson is.

Pick up your feet, turn your corners square! And DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!!
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moopdawg's picture

We both agree that Day needs to get the best players who fit his vision of the program, whether they be in-state or national.  However, I'm just curious to know, how did you come to the conclusion that Josiah Scott would be "warming the bench for 3 years behind guys like Wade, Okudah, Tyreke Johnson, Sevyn Banks, etc., just like Marcus Williamson is?"

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216ToThe614's picture

To put it simply, both were undersized in-state DB's and Williamson was ranked more highly than Scott. Since Williamson has unfortunately been warming the bench thus far in his career, I didn't think it was that hard to arrive at that conclusion. You never know what could happen if Scott were here at OSU instead of at Sparty, but it sure would be tough for Scott to beat out those aforementioned guys who were bigger/faster/stronger.

Pick up your feet, turn your corners square! And DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!!
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moopdawg's picture

I now understand your assumptions.  I thought perhaps you were a coach or that you had seen both Scott and Williamson play firsthand in high school, or any of the other DBs you mentioned.  

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OldTownBuckNut's picture

I went to UC (and OSU), and lived in Cincinnati for about seven years. Part of the challenge in recruiting this area is there’s a healthy dislike of OSU in Cincinnati. It’s like OU fans that can’t stand OSU. Not sure the current atmospherics, but hopefully OSU ties with Fickell, Hubbard, and Meyer (Reds fan) can help recruitment in this talent rich area. We northern Ohioans have very little allegiance to other colleges outside of OSU. Much easier to recruit there and around Columbus. FWIW. 

Round on the ends and "HI" in the middle. O-HI-O.

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stxbuck's picture

I'm from the area and while there are pockets of ND fans or hardcore UC fans/tOSU haters, I would disagree about the extent of tOSU hate. If tOSU comes after a GCL or Colerain or Winton Woods,etc,etc. kid hard and early, they will almost always be the favorite,imo.

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Jamarkus's picture

Well said. I can’t stand how some Buckeye fans outside of Cincy claim we are anti-OSU down here. Simply untrue. Sure there are pockets that aren’t OSU fans, but you’ll have that in any city in Ohio. The notion that folks in Cincy hate OSU is ridiculous. I’m born and raised here, are there a ton of Buckeye supporters in Cincy. In Columbus and Cleveland, it’s nothing but OSU, however, there are several other fanbases here so it’s a different dichotomy than in those cities. 

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OldTownBuckNut's picture

Look, I’m not saying that OSU isn’t popular in Cincinnati, but that there isn’t the same passion as you’ll find elsewhere. Many Catholic schools equals many ND fans. UC is a proud school as well. I’m still a proud Bearcat and former athlete there. This was in the 90’s and there’s a good chance things have changed a bit in OSU’s favor. My circle of friends from there (Purcell grads, Xavier and UC grads) can’t stand OSU. Not trying to be provocative, just providing some atmospherics as to perhaps why OSU hasn’t recruited as much from there. 

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Jamarkus's picture

I’m a PM Cavalier too! Glad to see a fellow Cav on here.  

I agree with what you’re saying and that’s essentially the same point I’m making. Cincy has several school fanbases/graduates that have a presence here and that’s unique. You just don’t see that in other cities in this state - it’s pretty much OSU and nothing else. Sure you have Toledo, Akron, OU, BG but the vast majority of those fans are Buckeye fans too. That’s the big difference between Cincy and other OH cities, and they equate that to Cincy hating on OSU. 

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stxbuck's picture

Passionate 50 year old fans and in-state kids who want to stay home for one of the premier programs in the country are different things. The later are the only ones that Coach Day and co. are directly interested in...........................I'd say Elder is the only Cincinnati school where tOSU would usually be a clear #2 to ND for recruits-and Jakob James has just proved an exception to that rule.................

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Colortv1967's picture

Meyer seemed to have an aversion to Cincinnati

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216ToThe614's picture

- Adolphus Washington

-Sam Hubbard

-Justin Hilliard

-Amir Riep

-Dan Vanatsky

-Xavier Johnson

-Trayvon Wilburn

-Jake Hausmann

-Garyn Prater

-Brock Davin

-Drue Chrisman

-Jerron Cage

There's probably a few that I've overlooked too.

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Jamarkus's picture

Thanks for correcting him. 

Jamarkus

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portlandbuck's picture

So much so that his son is playing baseball at UC.

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Silver Sniper's picture

Not to mention Meyer played CFB at UC and coached at St Xavier lol

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SoutherOHBuckeye's picture

It is interesting that they interviewed Jason Krause the head coach of Fairfield H.S. because one of the top running backs in the country is a Junior there now and will be a Senior in the 2019-20 season.  JuTahn McClain has offers from OSU, ND, Michigan, Penn State, Cincinnati, and others. He is classy kid, who is also an amazing sprinter in the 100 and 200. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

McClain’s a kid I’d love to see in Columbus. His stats in a lopsided loss to Colerain were unbelievable. Maybe the only APB we’ve offered that I’d take over him is Chris Tyree and that’s mainly because Tyree’s run the second fastest high school 60m in the country so far this year.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

Like Meyer knew... Cinci tucky is where some great players are. Better to get the 2nd best CB from Texas or Florida than the 8th best from Cincinnati. Day realizes that and will get the best overall players.

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Jamarkus's picture

Cincy tucky?? Haha. Love the mindset of northern Ohioans.  Cincinnati is in Ohio son. Period. 

Jamarkus

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Crumb's picture

If they say Cincytucky just call them Cleveland, New York. 

"The only good thing about it is winning the d*** thing" - Urban Meyer on The Game The War

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Jamarkus's picture

It really is hilarious when you see folks in northern OH act like Cincy isn’t even part of OH. 

Jamarkus

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stxbuck's picture

I'd rather live in Kentucky North than Canada South if that's how the NE Ohio crowd wants to play it......................

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Jamarkus's picture

For sure. Good point. 

Jamarkus

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

C V G. Your International Airport is in Kentucky.
Not bashing the city but I wasn't entirely wrong.

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Jamarkus's picture

It was an attempt at a dig but it’s all good. God bless you son. 

Jamarkus

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EnonBuck79's picture

Well Cincinnati didn't produce Desmond Howard or Charles Woodson either that distinction goes to Northern Ohio... .

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Jamarkus's picture

Wtf does that have to do with anything?

Jamarkus

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EnonBuck79's picture

Just the fact that most defectors to TTUN don't come from Cincinnati but Northern Ohio.

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Rocket Man's picture

I've heard "Cincinnati is a priority" before but somehow it never happens.  There have been some fantastic players from the  area that have gone to OSU, but too many have gotten away.

Hopefully Coaches Day and Washington will put a big fence around the area.  And I hope coach Fick gets the remainder of the great players for UC.

Varys: I've always hated the bells. They ring for horror, a dead king, a city under siege. 
Tyrion: A wedding. 
Varys: Exactly.

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MercyTex's picture

... and the TE will be featured in the offense.

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mtrotb's picture

One of the biggest misses that neither the author nor the respondents have mentioned is Ryan Kelly form West Chester that Tressel whiffed on.  Only went to Alabama and became 1st team All American at center in 15 and won Rimington award.

Kelly attended Lakota West High School in West Chester, Ohio, where he was teammates with Jordan Hicks.[2] As a junior in 2009, he was a first team all-conference and all-city selection on the offensive line. During his senior season, he suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in the last game of his season against rival Lakota East, yet he still was named third-team Division I All-Ohio. Although selected, he was unable to play at the Under Armour All-America Game coming off of his knee injury.

Rated as a three-star recruit by ESPN, Kelly was ranked as the No. 4 center prospect in his class.[3] He collected numerous scholarship offers from major programs, including Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Michigan, and Tennessee, but none from his home-state Ohio State Buckeyes who signed the third-ranked center, Brian Bobek from Palatine, Illinois, instead.[4] Kelly verbally committed to Alabama in July 2010.[4]

College career[edit]

After redshirting his initial year in Tuscaloosa, Kelly came off the bench to play in 10 games of the 2012 season at center, backing up All-American senior Barrett Jones. Kelly was named to the SEC All-Freshman team, alongside Amari Cooper and T. J. Yeldon.[5] In his sophomore year, Kelly took over starting duties from Jones, making the calls on an offensive line that ranked 23rd nationally and fourth in the SEC for fewest sacks allowed per game (1.31).

As a junior, Kelly was named to the Rimington Trophy watch list and started 12 games at center. A highly reliable anchor on the offensive line, he missed just seven assignments in 806 snaps on the year for a 99.1 percent success rate and did not allow a quarterback sack. After wins at Tennessee and against Western Carolina he was named Alabama's Offensive Player of the Week. In his senior season, Kelly missed only eight assignments in 1,012 snaps for a success rate of 99.2 percent on the season, and committed just one penalty in 1,012 snaps with no holding calls. He was a consensus first team All-America selection, earning first-team honors from Walter Camp, USA Today, Sporting News, the FWAA, and the AFCA, and won the Rimington Trophy in 2015.[6]

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Wikipedia: it’s never wrong!

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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BengalBuck's picture

"Only went to Alabama and became 1st team All American at center in 15 and won Rimington award."

Yea, then he went & got his a$$ whupped in January of 2015....so there's that....

Neil Armstrong lied to me...

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mtrotb's picture

WTF does that have to do with this?  You don't think the guy would have beat out Boren?

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Woodshed's picture

Do you think he would have?

boren was a beast for osu that year. 

Yes, even against bama’s “big, bad” d-line.

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mtrotb's picture

If the guy was a 1st team All-American, I would say yes. Guy is playing in NFL.  Boren is picking up trash literally.

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Woodshed's picture

Agree to disagree then.

osu had great center play that year. Only watched one bama game all year and ant success they had running vs osu was off tackle.

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HSGABuck's picture

I heard it all when Urban got there too.  The big reason we lose out on the OL prospects is Notre Dame.  Huge catholic population down there.  

In Antoine Winfield I trust

 

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gobucks1966's picture

SAD but what may help is not many people attend church these days maybe it will help recruiting.  I agree that is part of the reason and St. Eds and Iggy along with  Mooney and Ursuline in Youngstown too.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

That’s a misperception, Yes, Cincinnati has a large Catholic presence but truth be told, while the difference is marginal, Cleveland and Columbus have more, both in headcount and % of population. According to a 2014 study, they ranked 7th, 8th and 9th in the US in % percent of population.

7. Cleveland 23%
7. Detroit 23%
7. Houston 23%

8. Columbus 22%

9. Cincinnati 21%

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Jamarkus's picture

Good stats but I think you have to account for the whole Cincy Metro area. That includes Northern KY and Dayton (Cincy archdiocese encompasses Dayton as well) When you include those areas, I think Cincy’s totals in % and head count are greater. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Did you even bother reading the article? It was based on metropolitan areas. And no one’s said anything about archdioceses, much less including Dayton, which is its own metropolitan area and not considered a part of Cincinnati. That’s like saying Youngstown is a part of Pittsburgh’s metro or Canton and Akron are part of Cleveland’s. The Cincinnati archdiocese stretches almost as far north as Lima. So we’re now including Springfield, Sidney, Urbana and Troy as parts of Cincinnati? I think that would be news to the people in those communities.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Jamarkus's picture

 My lord take a pill dude! Overreact much??  I mentioned Dayton because we are talking about Catholic population and the Cincinnati Archdiocese includes that area. And yes, NKY is greater Cincinnati so that’s totally applicable here. 

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SpielzWheelz's picture

Hubbard was a great find for Urban, playing dodgeball in a gym! 

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gobucks1966's picture

I been following Ohio recruiting forever and many times it's not for the lack of not trying to recruit Cincinnati but the kids not wanting to go to OSU. Notre Dame use to actually dominate that area as far back as the 60's. Any player of great worth has always had a offer so most cases it's not for not trying. Another thing of note is looking at some of the kids mentioned at the top that have done well at other schools. Look at their offer sheet most big name schools backed off too for what ever reason. I remember many times not here but other board posters saying Toledo and Cincinnati should be removed from the state because we couldn't pull kids from those areas Fred Davis and a boat load of talent going to ttun from Toledo. We suffer from the same with ND raiding the Queen City and blame the religion and going to a Catholic school as part of the reason. Growing up in the Warren area another funny area is Warren. Back when they had two high schools the Western Reserve kids for the most part went to ttun while the Harding kids came here. Look at all the St Eds and Iggy kids that have gone to PSU and ttun and ND. I really don't think we ignore recruiting Cincinnati or any place it's the kids wanting to go to another school. For Kicks and Giggles I pulled out a old Bill Kurelic recruiting rag of 2006. The top player in state that year was Ben Martin from LaSalle his top 6 schools were OSU PSU USC ND Tennessee Florida not sure what school he selected but it wasn't OSU. No.3 player was Eugene Clifford from Colerain his list was OSU ttun FSU Florida again not sure if we pulled him either but I don't ever recall not offering players from Cincinnati that are tops in Ohio. We miss out in Dayton too and almost lost Harrison so not sure we ignore any area.

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stxbuck's picture

Clifford signed w/ tOSU then transferred to Kentucky State or somewhere like that. He is now in trouble for felony check fraud. FWIW, tOSU has signed every player it has targeted from Colerain in the last 20-25 years.

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kmp10's picture

Williams stood an inch taller and weighed about 40 lbs. more than Larkin coming out of high school.

He also played small town high school football in North Carolina against inferior competition, while Larkin played at La Salle, a traditionally strong D2 program in one of the top 5-7 high school football states in America. In picking nits, and has been said a bunch of times, Meyer did not prioritize Ohio as he should have, imo. Larkin over Williams is not the best example because Williams was much higher rated coming out of high school, at least as I remember it... but he also played against significantly inferior competition to what Larkin faced. 

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stxbuck's picture

Thayer Munford was at LaSalle before the LaSalle coach took the job at Massillon and took Thayer with him.

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Jamarkus's picture

The living arrangement with the coach when he left Lasalle for Massillon ended up getting them busted by OHSAA. 

Jamarkus

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stxbuck's picture

This is true-too bad really-Munford was in a horrible family situation in Woodlawn and the coach was doing the right thing for him,imo.

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gobucks1966's picture

I can be totally wrong but this Ohio recruiting comes up a lot on here. Why would any coach ignore a area or player? They are working to be the best and their job is on the line. So why would Cincinnati or Ohio  be ignored? Why can't we just admit we went after a better wr ,qb or any position player out of state that we could of got in state. Why can't we see Ohio talent is down and from what I hear next year and year after are more promising? We always look at the ones that got away and a player that was a 3 star that played great. How about all the players that didn't live up to the hype?  There are a lot more of those at MSU and other schools that would never play here. How many Ohio Mr. Football never lived up to their hype. How many others that played well that probably couldn't come here because of admissions or have criminal records. We only see what they do on the football field and know little to nothing about the real person. Carmine Jackson wasn't coming here and Fred Davis wasn't either and hundreds before them but it wasn't for not trying. Ricky Powers went to Michigan because Robert Smith was here. Mario Manningham, Prescot Burgess and Shawn Grable went to Michigan because they hated Clarrett and two of those were team mates in high school. The list is endless to why some kids are skipped over. One of the radio guys mentioned on his show thinks that Day is sending out a olive branch to Ohio football coach's. Unless Day can't recruit oos I think Ohio players will be in the same boat as when Urban was here. If your good enough you will be offered. With two good years of Ohio kids coming up all this Ohio talk makes sense.

Denny

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Kasino Royale's picture

Go bucks, your post should be pinned at the top.

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Rocket Man's picture

Helluva lot of downvotes?

Hell, is Mark Stoops a member?

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Crumb's picture

Tressel and Meyer both made my Queen City a priority and did it well. I feel like before Tressel Cincinnati was hardly recruited by Ohio State. Since Tressel it's been recruited well and there are a lot more Buckeye fans here as a result. He and Meyer didn't get everyone, no one ever does. But they did a good job, Meyer had a hold on the I-75 corridor thanks to Kerry Coombs and Ryan Day is looking to keep that with Al Washington. If nothing else, I see fewer kids going to TTUN and ND out of spite. The fact that they get recruited by the Buckeyes makes them less out for revenge if in the end they choose not to stay home. I for one love it!

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gobucks1966's picture

No doubt Cincinnati has a lot of talent compared to the rest of the state along with the Cleveland schools St. Ed's and Iggy to mention a couple. How ever we live in a huge country and Ohio is just a small part of it. Wasn't Conner Smith a 4 star o line player from Cincinnati that never played a down at OSU.

Denny

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Sam Maldonado, Marco Cooper, Jamario O’Neal, Dorian Bell, Justin Hilliard, Eugene Clifford, Justin Zwick, Louis Irizarry, and Mike D’Andrea were all 5-stars who signed with Ohio State but for one reason or another, didn’t pan out. Sometimes, things don’t go the way everyone wants. Neither the rankings or players are infallible.

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gobucks1966's picture

D Andrea gets a pass injured nearly his entire career and was rated the best linebacker in the nation ahead of Hawk and Carpenter. Hawk was the opposite hurt in high school which lowered his ranking.

Denny

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I am well aware of D’Andrea’s story, which is why I qualified my response as “but for one reason or another, (they) didn’t pan out. Sometimes, things don’t go the way everyone wants.” So he was injured. Why does that entitle him to a pass? Should Eugene Clifford be excused for being an idiot?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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gobucks1966's picture

Kind of hard to show your talents when you can't play. I don't recall Clifford's issues ? If he was a idiot lol maybe he shouldn't of been offered .

Denny

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MrWiley7's picture

As a native Cincinnatian I am glad to see this! There is a lot of talent all throughout the many high schools in the area, private and public. Can't wait to see who gets a shot...Go Bucks!

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vitaminT's picture

I’m surprised this article was written without mentioning that Luke Fickell is the head coach at UC. He obviously has more history and stronger ties to OSU than Day does, and I think that has to make recruiting in the area more challenging than it would otherwise be. UC isn’t going to compete for the five-star talents, but the local three- and four-star kids are going to have Fickell and his 2014 championship ring in their living room the moment the contact period begins.

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CowCat's picture

I don't know why you would get a DV for relating a true situation. I UV'd you to counter that.

Fickell does have an advantage in that his Bearcats have been successful so far and Ryan Day is not a proven head coach yet. That will likely change after this season, but for now it will be interesting.

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

Great points. However, last year was great at UC and they were ranked in the 20'ish area. Not the same animal as OSU. Hopefully we keep interests high in the area but counter balance with reality.

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Buxki84's picture

I hope Amir Riep gets some playing time this year. He was a vastly underrated recruit.

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Trotwoodbuck's picture

Well it is The Ohio State University and for my money (and as an Ohio tax payer I mean that literally) I always prefer to see OSU athletic scholarships go to Ohio kids. You have to recruit to the level that you want to complete, but I will never complain about a strategy that starts with securing commitments from all of the top ten players from Ohio you can get every year.

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stxbuck's picture

If you are still in trotwood, have you heard if Sammy Anderson is getting much attention from tOSU?

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Trotwoodbuck's picture

No I haven't lived in Trotwood in a very long time.  Grew up and attended school there many moons ago.

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gobucks1966's picture

Two things about that comment. Your taxes will remain but the football program will suffer. Maybe we should of not accepted Fields and recruited the best Ohio Qb in this years class? Does anyone know the best Ohio qb ?

Denny

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Trotwoodbuck's picture

We'll the reason OSU exists is to educate students, specifically Ohio residents with the support of Ohio tax payers.  I have no problem with out of state students, but all things being approximately equal I would much rather see Ohio kids get those scholarships and have out of state students pay for their education should the want to attend OSU even at the risk of the football team "suffering". 

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buckeyearchie76's picture

While Coach Day and other coaches are visiting Cincinnati for talent, they might want to extend their visit a few miles and check out some of the great talent in Northern Kentucky as well.  They play an excellent brand of football there.  I fully get the emphasis on Ohio kids.  But these kids are talented and really probably would love to be Buckeyes as well.  Most have little or no interest in UC because UC shows very little interest in them.  They do have an attachment towards U K for basketball--not so much for football.  Just saying, there could be some talent there that we could benefit from.  GO BUCKS!

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Horvath22's picture

I remember Bob White from Covington. One of Woody's Boys.

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GunnerBuck's picture

The biggest problem with looking back and doing the "what if" thing is if you don't look at the classes, it may change the look. IE David Long, not only was he the 35th best player in Ohio coming out of HS, in the 2014 class we took Kwon, Booker and Burger and in 2015 we took Hilliard, Baker and Nick Conner. All of which tape looking 10x better than Longs. 

Not to mention, Longs best offer outside of WVU was Cinni and GT. While not all the higher ranked players work out, I'll still take them over the long ranked guys, as the math has been proven, the higher ranked guys are more likely to be elite than the 3 stars. That's just what it is and I would rather bank on the higher probability of an elite athlete than the flyer on a lesser one.  

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