Why Do You Live in Cold Areas?

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bucknut1994's picture

Sometimes it's cold as fuck sometimes but we don't have earthquakes, wildfires, hurricanes, etc. Wear a coat. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

...and gloves, a hat, boots and a scarf.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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osu992's picture

...and lotions and salves

New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.

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buckzilla1's picture

Ointments! Don't forget the ointments!

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

And getting your wife to put the lotion ON you can be fun

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bucknut1994's picture

I need a proofreader sheesh. Maybe I should move to somewhere warm and sell my coat so I can hire one.

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Wildfires hit a few isolated spots, typically in very in rural areas. Never been in an earthquake and never seen a hurricane.

The frigid temperatures and ice/snow is slamming the entire Midwest and approaching the Northeast. There's no escaping it.

It'll be 70F and sunny here tomorrow. I forgot what a "wind chill" was a while ago. I'll take a little smoke from time to time, especially if it means I can visit the snow briefly when I feel like hitting up a Tahoe resort.

;-{)}

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bucknut1994's picture

Pffftttttttt how much is housing out there in Nor Cal? Prolly only tree fiddy a month more than here in the city of kings ;-{)}

Also 315 > the BART

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Amtrak >> BART.

Got me a house with a pool for $238k in 2010, so we good here.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Napa 20 minutes West, Tahoe is 2 hours East. Bay Area is 45 min away and the coast is less than an hour away.

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Chic'sGhost's picture

Uh, Ohio State University for one. And, Cbus is a cool place. I don't have a problem wearing a coat. My small house would cost $700k in Cali.
Quality of life isn't completely ruled by weather.
And, it sure the hell isn't Minnesota. With climate change, quite a few recent winters have been darn mild.
I love Cbus. My parents, children and grandchildren are all within half an hour.
Love Ohio summers, and it's the No. 1 place in the world September through early January.

"You're welcome for the house I built."

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

^^^^^^^^^

What Ghost said.  Except replace Cbus with Cleveland

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GlassCityBuckeyes's picture

And no water to fill it .

Noon games suck

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BeatMeechigun's picture

“No place to escape it” ?

Um, I can pretty easily escape it by stepping inside my 70-degree house.

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Enjoy your commute tomorrow.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Btw, the whole idea about having to stay holed up in your house for 3+ months is kind of the whole point.  Tomorrow I can go mountain biking in 70 degree weather, visit 30 degree skiing for just the afternoon, or stay home and open all my windows.

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BeatMeechigun's picture

I pre-heated my car.  It was 70 degrees.

I went to the basketball game in Ann Arbor last night.  That wasn't fun - but not because of the weather.  The gym was 68-70 degrees.

I plan on ice fishing on the lake Saturday - very excited for that (shanty is heated).

I went to a HS bball game this week.  The gym was 68-70 degrees.

It's not like we are living in igloos or snowbound cabins here.  Sure, you need to be careful on icy roads and probably don't want to go sunbathe today, but it's not unbearable by any means.  Honestly the only big difference is that schools and some businesses will be closed for 2 days.

I also don't pay $8 for a beer here in the Midwest.

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RK84's picture

I also don't pay $8 for a beer here in the Midwest.

Nationwide Arena/The Schott/The Shoe would like a word

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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bucknut1994's picture

I love the $11 tall boys at Jackets games. 

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RK84's picture

Gotta buy the koozie first round as well.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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CC's picture

Yeah but you have to live in CA.  No thanks.

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hetuck's picture

How did you not feel the 2014 Napa earthquake? It was 6.0 on the richter scale. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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saintstephen11's picture

You couldn't pay me enough to live in California.

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Elks' comb over's picture

Nope. They’d take it all in taxes and then still want more from the rest of the country

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Wargor's picture

Uh, a quick internet scan shows that California is not a 'taker' state when it comes to federal dollars in vs. federal dollars out.  Places like South Carolina, Alabama, and Mississippi rank high in that regard, but not California.

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lamplighter's picture

was going to post a comment here, but realized it might be considered political.

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hetuck's picture

That's because a lot of California military bases closed - Ft. Ord, Presidio, etc. If there is another BRAC round, it will get worse. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

I did not feel it in FF/VV. The shaking was pretty localized in Napa, American Canyon and Vallejo. A coworker had his sidewalk buckle a bit but he lived in Napa.

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buckeyefan67's picture

...

or the high taxes ?  The poor status of the big cities? Why do hundred of thousands leave every year? 

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jpfbucks01's picture

I lived in Monterey for just over a year and had 1 small quake and a wildfire close enough you could smell the smoke everyday for weeks

Besides family the biggest reason I am back in Cbus is cost of living vs amenities

Columbus offers all the primary big city amenities you could want or you can drive 2 hours to get ti in Cincy and Cleveland

BUt the Cost of living is dramatically lower than a place like San Fran

I work from home and hence can live anywhere, but why pay double the amount for half as much to live in SF or Monterey etc

A couple anecdotes. My 1 Bed room condo (500ish sq ft) cost $1850 per month, with no Washer/Dryer hookups so i had to pay on top of that to get laundry done

my 2 BR condo in Powell costs me $810 and i get almost double the sq feet and dont pay for laundry

Electric bill even without AC and no laundry, cost 100-130 per month, here with AC and laundry it between 80-105

State taxes were nearly double, the sales tax rate was 1% higher, they charged you for plastic bags at the grocery and had a special tax on soda.

Registering a car cost was based on the perceived value and since i had newer car it was well over $100 then add in the pollution test was another $50 while in Ohio its under $35

Gasoline was 50% higher per gallon, currently about 2.gallon here and 3 per gallon there

Overall Cbus COL is about 10% below the national average while Monterey was nearly double the national average and i was still 2+ hours way from San Fran and big city amenities

Granted beautiful and year round pleasant weather, but not worth the cost

Also having grown up here and lived in places like Cali, NC, UK, Jamaica and Philippines, I still prefer Ohio's year round variability to constantly hot places like Jamaica, Philippines, or the cool damp weather year round of UK, Netherlands and Central.Northern Cali

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BIGTIMEBUCKS's picture

Cost of living.

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Jay Lawerence's Laugh's picture

I lean toward things like the rampant homeless problems, can’t say I’ve had to deal with to much human waste in the public areas, and I don’t have to cross as many junkies tweaking out with a needle in their arm. Give me Ohio over San Fran any day.

Utopia is what you make of it.

Ohio, the greatest state in the Union!

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iowabuckeyes's picture

1) Work; 2) more affordable cost of living; 3) reasonably close proximity to our daughter.

We joke that we always question why we live here when it’s too late to do anything about it.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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rosycheeks's picture

Where do you live, Iowabuckeye?

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Good guess. What gave me away?

Iowa is actually a Hawaiian word that means “cold flat land far from water.” 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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lamplighter's picture

so it's cold.  BFD

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Remington2323's picture

Nut up Salley and buy a hoodie...

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raiders91sc's picture

I'm stupid.  Lived in Texas, Alabama, Colorado, Germany, and Cali.  Then I retired and came back home.  What was I thinking.

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KBonay's picture

Dude, it’s cold in San Francisco too. Maybe not freezing but if your gonna pa CA tax might as well be warm and sunny. 

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MercyTex's picture

Just in July.

Our people are everywhere, Esto Dignus.

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Its a frigid 53F in SF at 9pm, and it will only get up to 70F tomorrow.

And if you don't like the cooler climate of SF, you can drive 30 minutes and watch the temp go up 30F in the summer.

The best part is getting a house in the great half-off sale of 2010 is having an Ohio sized mortgage but being able to work in the Bay.

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FieldsofJreams's picture

So you pretty much started this thread to rub the weather of Ohio in the local's faces, and brag about being in the right place at the right time.

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FieldsofJreams's picture

So you pretty much started hijacked this thread to rub the weather of Ohio in the local's faces, and brag about being in the right place at the right time.

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Edit for your edit: it's kind of a long standing back & forth inside joke between the Ohioans vs the West Coasters on here:

Sometimes it's cold as fuck sometimes but we don't have earthquakes, wildfires, hurricanes, etc. Wear a coat

Windshield wiper blades up or down when you park?

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FieldsofJreams's picture

Nope, right place at the right time.  You could have been too young, or already old enough to have bought your retirement home(s).  I don't give Baby Boomers any credit either.  

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Made a decision to make a cross-country move when I saw a great value.

That's like saying Warren Buffett "was in the right place, right time" when he selectively bought companies with low price/earning valuations.

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FieldsofJreams's picture

I am specifically commenting on you countering the expensive Bay-Area real estate, by saying you bought in the bubble crash.  Your situation is irrelevant to anyone in this thread right now.  High cost of living is easily the second biggest reason us Midwest dumbies don't live in CA.

Also since it is so easy to project BA and SD housing bubbles, could you please give an accurate projection on a time table for others to replicate your results?

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bucklox's picture

NorCal - if you ever reduce yourself to visiting Central Ohio again, I'd love to grab a beer with you and listen to you humblebrag and tell endless "tree fiddy" jokes...

You're definitely one of the most original posters on the site.  I can't put a price on the mental stimulation I'd get by spending a few hours with you.  

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

More weirdos in Cali than Cleveland.  Winner of a reason right there.

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BuckDigger's picture

Because we're not pussies. That and it gives us a good excuse to burn tires. Bring on the global warming!!

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Louie1131's picture

A studio apt in the Bay Area is $4k/month. But you do get all the thrills of crack/heroin junkies lighting up and throwing their used needles on the sidewalks. 

Lived in the fertile myrtle beach for a couple years. Great golf, but everything else, yikes....

I live in Scottsdale now. Not many complaints, but it is a city without a soul. Too many transplants.

My favorite warm climate city is Savannah. But the humidity and dumb southern racist red necks make it a toss up as well. 

Find a place where you can make some money and enjoy the surroundings. The rest is just details.

I wish the real world would just stop hassling me...

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KBonay's picture

There is literally an App for avoiding human shit for San Francisco. 

It’s called ‘SnapCrap’. And I am not even joking. 

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McBane's picture

Can we get one of those for the PL?

You used to be cool.  What happened to you?

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KBonay's picture

Just follow [mod edits] posts, they are always shit. 

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lamplighter's picture

did you edit yourself?

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Living directly in SF is for the rich, hipsters and fools (if you're paying $3000-4000 in rent). And if you're living in a spot that has a studio for "$4k/month", it's not quite the gritty neighborhoods you describe. Pacific Heights or the Marina District are not the Tenderloin. Just like Franklinton or Old Town East is not Upper Arlington or Bexley.

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

+1

BTW, San Diego wins every argument.  SD is by far the best place to live, that is until the great water wars of 2030 when Northern California and Nevada turn off the water spigot.
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GunnerBuck's picture

I loved being in SD however I'd never live there again. 

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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KBonay's picture

Are you saying you don't like Scarlet, NorCal?! It's Beautiful. 

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Tahoe skiing/boarding >> Big Bear skiing/boarding

Napa, Sonoma, Mendocino, Monterey & Paso Robles Wine >> Santa Barbara & Temecula Wine

Redwood Coast & Yosemite >> Joshua Tree & Death Valley

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KBonay's picture

Those are some big wins, I'll give you those.  But I retired from boarding (2 shoulder surgeries) and I don't drink wine. And I am not a big tree-hugger, so forest doesn't do it for me either. 

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Keyser Soze's picture

Nothing better than the Orange County bubble, best weather in the world. I miss my family but can travel back to Ohio whenever I want, I lived in Seal Beach for 8 years then HB for another 9 and my Office was in Sunset Beach with an ocean view.

when I was stuck in a traffic jam on PCH this was my horrible view. 

I had a 2 Bedroom Apt 1,000 sq ft with a 3rd floor rooftop patio That I could see the Disneyland fireworks from every night it cost us 1400 so my take is that if you can't afford 1400 a month as an adult you may want to re check what you are doing. It was a smaller place but you are never inside and it really improves your quality of life. I live in a 3800 sq ft home now and would pay half my salary a month if we had the same weather here in Texas. Rains way too much, 40+ inches since October really hurts your golf game.

That's how winners play. We convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.

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KBonay's picture

My first stomping grounds was Huntington when I moved out.  17th and Orange.  Learned to surf at the Cliffs.  Moved to Newport Beach, then bought a place in Costa Mesa.  Then moved to South OC.  I'm sure we've drank a beer in the same place.

It's hard to explain to those that have never lived out here.  It's easy to point to traffic, cost of living, ect.  But it's all relative.  At the end of the day, you live where you are happy.  I loved my time in Cincy/Columbus.  But I was over the weather.  So I took a flyer and made the change.  And have yet to look back.  Might not be for everyone.  But it was for this guy.

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Keyser Soze's picture

I'm sure we had a beer or two maybe right next to each other during a Buckeye game!! 

Are you still in South County? My wife is on me about moving back, but paying a 13% state tax is going to keep me a Texan for life even when we get a house in Cali next year or so. 

That's how winners play. We convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.

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KBonay's picture

Yeah, I had a home built 3 years ago just south of Mission Viejo.  New community that just went up.  Next to Ladera Ranch.

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stxbuck's picture

Common sense politics (or the staggering lack thereof) is the elephant in the room when it comes to talking about quality of life in California...........

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Keyser Soze's picture

If there is any consolation Orange County votes like the non city midwest, but there are certain consequences when your statewide elected leaders make decisions that effect you. Another reason I am in Texas Full Time and moving towards part time OC in the next two years

That's how winners play. We convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.

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KBonay's picture

Red county in a blue state.

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stxbuck's picture

Actually Orange County has gone completely blue now-no Rs representing any OC district.

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buckeye1976's picture

Zero chance, lol. 

In reality its all about what you like. I think NoCal people are a little more "real" than SoCal folks. I know i'm generalizing, but it seems like people in SoCal pretend that they're a celeb.

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RK84's picture

I didn't get that at all when I was out there, unless you went to that area of LA.

The beach communities were laid back and cool. Probably the opposite of what you'd expect out there.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

"SoCal > NorCal"

CalPoppy > KBonay

;-{)}

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MercyTex's picture

I hope you enjoy California.  Home is where the heart is.  I enjoyed growing up in Ohio and living in Columbus after graduating from our fine university.  Texas called and I made it my home.  I still enjoy visiting friends and family in Ohio.  Cheers.

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Kyson12's picture

Love Texas, there’s just no place like it imo. 

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buckeyefan67's picture

The four seasons.  Buckeye games. Family.  Have traveled all over country --and lived in five other states mostly while in military--cost of living, housing , insurance etc  here is hard to beat.  Living in the 15th largest city in America ain't so bad and heck we got Jym Ganahl  to let us know when the bad weather is coming.

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AzBuckeye45's picture

Buckeyefan67, I agree with your statement wholeheartedly. The best time of the year is when the leaves are red, yellow, and brown. I love the fall weather when it's cool in the mornings/evenings, deer season is approaching, and football season is underway. That is the reason why my wife and I moved back home to Ohio after being away for well over 25 years. Plus, no state taxes on my retired military pay!

"Cause I couldn't go for three!"
Woody Hayes-1968

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cledaybuck's picture

Too bad we didn't get that this year.  It went straight from summer to crap.

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buckeyefan67's picture

AzBuck,  once looked at Phoenix area for retirement possibilities .  Since I had given up hope on my golf game,  the multitude of spring training baseball teams was certainly appealing ...much to the little woman's chagrin.  But the birth of two grandsons here changed that pipe dream rather quickly.  Thanx for your service , pardner !!

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BeatMeechigun's picture

Family. Friends. Ohio State football games. Half a dozen MLB stadiums within a 5-hour drive. 80-degree days at the lake in the summer, cool fall mornings with awesome leaves, snow a couple times in the winter. No earthquakes, no hurricanes, no tsunamis, no volcanoes. Excellent cost of living.

Why not live here?

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GVerrilli92's picture

Born and raised in North Carolina, just south of Raleigh. I legitimately believe that central NC is the best place to live in the world. Went to UNC Chapel Hill, and a part of my heart will always remain on that beautiful campus.

Family and a girl brought me to Cbus, but I will eventually return to NC after my earning years are over. Quite simply, Columbus is an amazing place for a young professional to live. So much opportunity to network and build a foundation for career success. I will say, to nobody's surprise, that the education system, highway system, and craft brewing scene are all on a different level in Ohio than anywhere in NC. Charlotte is actually a cultural bubble in NC where you won't see 3729462 Confederate flags per square foot, but the whole southern pride thing is a little overwhelming elsewhere. That being said, living in the Piedmont of NC you're 2 hours from some of the most beautiful mountains ever, 2 hours from some super relaxed beaches, and surrounded by golf on all sides. If you can get over football not being important at a cultural level (or just pull for OSU), NC is an amazing place to start and raise a family.

Ohio, I wouldn't be here if it weren't for my family and work. OSU football also makes the cold a lot more tolerable.

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GunnerBuck's picture

I lived in Central FL from 15-21 and Guam from 23-25, I picked Ohio again because it is home (even though most of my family has either passed or moved south). I love it here, I like the change of seasons and the cold doesnt really bother me, except when it gets into the single digits and negatives.I like to hunt and be outdoors, without the crazy heat that I got in FL and prefer lakes, woods and forest to ocean and jungle. Even though both my wife and I's career path could literally move us anywhere in the country, I won't live anywhere else.

My only complain about Ohio is the state, county and city/township taxes, that shit is crazy.

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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FieldsofJreams's picture

If you can buck up and grow some hair on your chest for 3 months, the other 9 months are about as good as it gets for climate.

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Where? In C-Bus I remember cold winters, wet gloomy springs, crazy variable summers and mixed falls. I did like early fall in Ohio, but I love nearly always seeing a blue sky.

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DuckBuck's picture

The Pacific Northwest is absurdly beautiful. It's only really cold for a relatively short period of time, otherwise the weather here is really nice.

 
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FieldsofJreams's picture

about as good as it gets

Yes, thin strips of land on the West Coast and the South-Eastern Coast (too many hurricanes though) have the best weather in the world.  Everywhere else either has miserable winters, makes your whole body sweat, is dry as a popcorn fart, or is in a wilderness.  

I would never live in the neurotic state of CA that is a ticking time-bomb for natural disasters.  

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saintstephen11's picture

not to mention high taxes and high welfare plus the state has teetered on the verge of bankruptcy several times through the years. I grew up in NY and own a vacation home there (really nice in the summer), but there is no way I'd be a permanent resident of Cali or NY.  If I ever buy a winter property it will be in Florida, Texas or the Carolinas.

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Brohio's picture

I think/talk about this a lot. I live in LA. When I talk to my friends back home (Ohio) during the winter months, every conversation steers towards the weather in LA. I mean literally there is not a conversation that doesn’t refer to the weather, whether it be a joking “Must be tough being outside in a T-shirt in January!” to the more serious “I don’t know why I deal with this shit!” It’s a weird dynamic but there is no denying how much the weather permeates daily life. I can’t speak for anyone but myself here, but when I ask “Why do you deal with it?” the answers are never “I love it here!” or anything like that. It’s always a list of things holding them back. I feel incredibly lucky that my situation allowed me to make the leap. I wish everyone had the freedom to get away if they truly hate the winters. LA has its shortcomings and I don’t know if I will be here forever but I can assuredly say that I will never live anywhere with winter again. I do love that I lived through the cold for so many years because even after all the years I’ve been here in LA,  I still appreciate the luxury of not dealing with the cold/snow/ice and I try to be outside as much as possible year round. It is absolutely undeniable how much my life has improved from just the temperature outside. 

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

It's funny, but every single conversation I have with family revolves around weather. "It was 90 two days ago and today it's in the 50's" or "I havent been able to go outside because it's covered in snow and ice" or "I haven't seen the sun in over a week".

I'll be right back - my backyard is on fire and the pictures on my wall are shaking.

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Elks' comb over's picture

What a shame. NorCal this post deserved way more UV’s. 

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JT Buckeye's picture

After moving away from the Midwest to California about 5 years ago; first NorCal and now SoCal, I would happily move back to the Midwest.  I miss having defined seasons, I miss late spring thunderstorms, warm, lazy summer evenings, crisp fall mornings, windy wet October nights, new fallen snow during the night,the first 60 degree day of the spring, the sound and smell of fallen leaves.    I’m looking at a partly cloudy 70 degrees tomorrow and I would gladly trade it for a crazy ass winter evening in Cbus. 

I can understand why people prefer to not have too much variation in weather, but personally, I dig it.

*Sipping the Buckeye Kool-Aid since 1995

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CedarBuck92's picture

For now I stay because family is here. 90% of my family is within 2 hours of where I live. Same for my wife. Now once my brother graduates high school we may follow a job south and chase some dreams. But in my heart I know that Ohio will always be home. 

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NorthCoastBias's picture

I'm sitting here at my desk, rolling my eyes and handwanking at like three fourths of the posts in this thread. Weather snobs are the worst.

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Brohio's picture

Reading the definitive opinions of what California is like by people that have never lived here or even been here produces an identical sentiment from me brother lol. 

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RK84's picture

Yeah you should probably at very least spend some time there before you get all high and mighty.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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Elks' comb over's picture

I’ve never lived in Chernobyl but my definitive opinion is I wouldn’t enjoy it one bit, but hey that’s just my opinion.

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RK84's picture

I hear its lovely in the fall.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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Brohio's picture

Unfortunately "California man spends January Sunday walking to Trader Joe's with his girlfriend, doing a quick hike at Runyon Canyon, and watching the AFC Championship at 4pm from an open air patio bar." doesn't make as sexy of a headline as the apparent doom and gloom shit they are pumping you boys back East lol

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RK84's picture

But on the flip side of that wonderful day for you, which kudos for enjoying your area. And actually getting out to do all that. Is that on the same Sunday I churched, brunched, hung out with friends at a local brewery, made it home in time to put my son to bed and enjoy the game in my living room.

No losers here, no doom and gloom from my perspective. You adjust and enjoy.

I did like my time in California, especially when OSU was noon kick and you could watch football from 9 am through Midnight.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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Crowd Threatening Bauserbombs's picture

Answer: cause I’m not a pansy

In all seriousness, you either hate the weather or you don’t. I would be lost without the seasons and do all kinds of things outside even in the dead of winter. If I can snowmobile when it’s -25 I can certainly drive to work. Getting my tractor with a front end loader out and plowing is actually a good time for me. I don’t blame people for moving to Cali or wherever if they can’t cope with the weather. As others said, I’m good on all the lunacy, taxes, natural disasters (whether you had one or not it’s coming), traffic, rampant homelessness, etc.  it sure is beautiful though!

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stechs02's picture

The reasons for me are endless. First, winter can be hell to some, paradise to others. You picked one of the coldest times ever to create this thread. Typical winter temps are in the 30s which isn’t bad. You can do things like snowmobile, ski/snowboard, sled, ice skate, paintball, so forth. Growing up I loved the snow, still do. Plus when you get weeks like this you just layer up or stay inside. Can’t do that during a wildfire or earthquake ;)

Quality of life to me isn’t about the weather. In Ohio I have great friends and family, great career opportunities (23 Fortune 500 companies is a lot for a state the size of Ohio), AWESOME cost of living and housing, the ability to have acreage, fall which is worth the 3/4 months of winter, and the values of Ohio/Midwest are more in line with how I want to raise my kids. Honestly love the Midwest and couldn’t imagine leaving it. 

We typically go to Hawaii or Naples for a couple weeks in January/February which gives us a chances to feel the heat and breaks up winter nicely. 

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hetuck's picture

I remember the line when I went to OSU of "Columbus is like vanilla ice cream. Everybody likes it, but it's nobody's favorite."  That's still largely, true, but we're adding syrup, nuts, and sprinkles. We'll never have beaches or mountains and there will always be gray skies aplenty. But I won't have to worry about a PG & E power line failing and causing a forest fire to burn my house down. Or running outside because stuff is falling off my walls. Or drilling holes in my walls for plywood sheeting kept in storage for when Jim Cantori comes to town and urges everyone to get out now. Or the local gas company urging conservation because there's not enough to go around like I saw at the Rose Bowl. Yes, we'll get an occasional visit from the polar vortex, but it won't leave a lasting impact. My taxes aren't onerous, I live in a great school district, and Ohio Stadium is a half hour away. I like it here. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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Keyser Soze's picture

Great analogy Hetuck in this post when I say you i'm not directing this at you specifically.

I lived in Ohio for 26 years and will always treasure my friends, family and great memories (sometimes foggy because of a ton of drinking my last 10 years there,) but until you can go skiing in Big Bear at 8am then drive down to Laguna Beach and surf at 2 then play full court basketball on a famous Beach court, then have a great meal at a number of unbelievable restaurants overlooking the Pacific Ocean capped off with 20 or so bars (packed with beautiful women)that you hop to and fro in your shorts T-shirt and flip flops then you haven't really lived. 

I played football for 19 years and have been a Buckeye my whole life, I live and die with OSU football and until a couple years ago at age 43, my weekend was always ruined if we lost and my wife knew to just keep everything to small talk and nice as can be. So there is no one that gets the Ohio appeal as much as I do, but until you spend some time in Orange County (the right way, with a friend that has been there for a while and can show and introduce you to great places and great people) then you really shouldn't dismiss the power of a 82 degree cloudless sky that sometimes doesn't rain for a couple of months can have over you.

That's how winners play. We convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.

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jmmysms's picture

I left a long time ago for work.

Have lived all over the US.

I tell people I take my vacation in November, to go to Ohio, to dress like a tree and chase critters in sometimes not very nice weather. It is where the fiends I grew up with are and I look forward to it every year.

No matter where I live or work I still have that Buckeye blood.

JMMYSMS

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LCT's picture

Well sure, California's great & all but on the other hand it's ground zero for catastrophic, destructive intellectual and social kookery (example: San Fran's the only place I know of where an app to tell you where a human has crapped on the sidewalk is useful). Weather's not everything.

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LCT's picture

"Some days, I want to burn this all down with a flamethrower."

https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Neighbors-disgusted-over-despai...

I have never said that about any place I have ever lived, and I have lived lots of places.

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Brohio's picture

Love your posts LCT but cherrypicking one person's quote to speak for a landmass that runs the equivalent of Ohio to Florida is a bit much. I can read through the lines of what you're trying to say and I will tell you the same thing I tell my family. LA and SF are not the only cities in California. They are densely packed high concentrations and really exist as their own ecosystems. It would be like me saying the entire Midwest is a crime riddled gang hub because I read some article about Southside Chicago. I can tell you in almost every corner of the state outside of those 2 cities, you will find plenty of likeminded people as yourself. As for LA and SF, sure you will find plenty wrong here...but people aren't absolutely pouring into these cities at a rate never before seen in the history of the USA because it sucks to live here. 

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LCT's picture

I believe you. California is very diverse. In fact, I'd say California's problem is that it's too diverse. I don't mean this in an ethnic or racial beancounting way; I'm talking economics, land use, allocation of resources, etc. Farmers in Fresno, techsters in Silicon Valley, State of Jeffersoners, SoCals etc. The Water War will be a sight to behold.

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Hovenaut's picture

Waited a day to feel I could answer this robustly (a balmy 11 degrees in my portion of Maryland).

Ohio native. I miss home, but cool with where life has taken me. I'm good where I'm at - family, work, reasonable distances to where I want to visit. 

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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Elks' comb over's picture

I can’t imagine you get too many snow days in LA. Snow days rocked as a kid.

“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.

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bucknut1994's picture

They get wildfire days where all the kids hope their school gets burned down. It’s great actually 

#94Ways

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Elks' comb over's picture

That’s true. They can also have architects design buildings with no AC because they were so high on smog it sounded like a good idea at the time.

“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.

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bucknut1994's picture

Now that’s a real #ProMove right there

#94Ways

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Elks' comb over's picture

Probably rated the #1 place to work in the Bay Area too. No doubt about it. It’s in California after all.

“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.

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Gratefulbuck's picture

Now, that’s a big Hepa crap. They could’ve just got a quality air filter. 

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GoBucks10's picture

It makes you appreciate how lucky you are.

I hate the offseason.

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xbuceye's picture

Snow days > earthquake or fire days

A lot of my best memories growing up involve snow and cold.

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aj99's picture

You can pretty much drive to snow in 2 hours or less from anywhere in CA.  Where I live it's been 60 and sunny all week. I can drive 30 minutes to Tahoe and ski if I want. That's one of the things I love out here. I get all the seasons. 30 minutes to the mountains. 2 hours to the ocean. CA is a great place to live.

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xbuceye's picture

I agree with everything that you said until you said that California is a great place to live. It's a great place to visit, but not to live. I love it out there. I was stationed in Coronado while in the Navy and still remember when I got off the plane at 19 years old for the 1st time. I can still remember the smell of the air and flowers and it was in January of 1986. I've visited Socal and Nocal many times for business and pleasure over the years and still get excited every time I go, but I would never consider living there, because of the cost of living. Everything cost more in CA. Gas, electricity, water or a loaf of bread it doesn't matter. I could transfer with my job to Long Beach or Lincoln, CA and my employer would bump my pay up $7.00 an hour. If they bumped it up $27.00 an hour I'd consider it since that's about what it would take for me to not take a hit financially.

I live Bluffton, SC which is 20 minutes north of Savannah and the other side of the bridge from Hilton Head. Our weather is hot. Nasty, sticky hot for several months of the year. Fortunately I like it hot. It got down to 32 this morning, which is about as cold as it usually gets a few nights a year. Highs in the 50's this week, but wouldn't be unusual to be in the mid 70's next week. Great beaches, world class golf, with plenty of outdoors stuff like fishing, kayaking, crabbing or shrimping to stay busy. All for about a 1/3 of the cost of much of California.

You guys can have your high costs of living, smog, traffic, earthquakes, mudslides and fires and I'll take our low costs of living, knats, hot and humid weather and tourists from Ohio!

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Elks' comb over's picture

Gas and electric are about to get even more expensive with the bankruptcy filing of PG&E.

“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.

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aj99's picture

You get what you pay for.  

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Tater_Schroeder's picture

1. Family

2. Cold > snakes + alligators + hurricanes + scorpions + tarantulas + 140° summers

Pray for potatoes with a hoe in your hand.

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Elks' comb over's picture

It’s a lot hotter than 140 degrees when your house gets caught in a wildfire. Solves your snake problem though.

“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.

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Wargor's picture

Yeah, I don't know about anyone else, but I am uncomfortable with these stories of alligators riding out the freeze in North Carolina though some snout above water hibernation trick.  What the fuck are Alligators doing that far north as it is!?!

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Gratefulbuck's picture

Just wait until the pythons get there 

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Worthington Buck's picture

We are going to own some beautiful and expensive ocean side property when global warming makes places like Florida and California uninhabitable. 

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Worthington Buck's picture

Also, you can own a nice 4 bedroom home in the suburbs for half the price of living in a garage in San Francisco.

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bucknut1994's picture

Yeah but you won't see a homeless man taking a shit on the sidewalk in the suburbs. 

#94Ways

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Worthington Buck's picture

And it's hard to get chinese food at 4 am.

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BacknBlack's picture

Why do I live in a cold environment? To respect and enjoy when the season turns warm.

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e135800's picture

 Winter is the best season of all. Northern Cali is great for a month or two, but -8 degrees is way better than walking around downtown piled in feces and syringes and living in a sanctuary city. Also the house I live in now would be 3 million in Cali, it's only 4200 sq ft and 350k  here. 110k salary here is like 50k there.  The Bay ain't exactly tropical.  Every time I'm there, it's 65ish no matter what time of year. 

 

 

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RK84's picture

Love Ohio - Ive lives may other places, but always came back.

Oddly enough the best advice about Ohio I got was from a used car salesman, I was looking at a sports car for a daily driver in Columbus of all places. You can actually do it. He said are you going to let a few shitty days and possibly a few shitty weeks, be the downfall for an entire year? Besides Columbus during football season...

Only place I would live again outside of Columbus would be Socal on the beach or Austin Texas, which is basically Columbus South.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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Elks' comb over's picture

Love Ohio - Ive lives may other places, but always came back

How many lives? You sound like a real cool cat.

“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.

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RK84's picture

Depends on the drugs mannnnn

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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Elks' comb over's picture

I enjoy when the leaves turn a nice burnt orange without it being actual flames.

“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.

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Hovenaut's picture

That's a great pic.

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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Elks' comb over's picture

Thanks! I took it myself... from Google. Looks like it may be a little chilly there.

“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.

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Hovenaut's picture

Google lifting is an underappreciated endeavor when it comes to photography.

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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buckeyefan67's picture

I would love to fish on that lake/waterway while taking in those sights.  Wow.

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HonorDefend's picture

Norcal,  if it is soo great why have I been reading article after article about the mass exit from San Francisco area.   I will have to see if I can locate it but there was an article I came across a year or two ago from here in Ohio as Ohio was experiencing a huge influx of people moving her from the Bay area.    Most of those interviewed stated in was the best decision they ever made in their lives and discussed how much happier they are here and how much better the people are.   

Like others,   not sure what the exact point of your post is other than telling others about how your perceived life is way better than everyone else.    I have been to San Fran during rush hour, even if the weather is nice no one seems to be enjoying it sitting still in their cars on the freeway.  

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scarletgray's picture

Family. Work, Seasons, Access to major markets , Fishing and boating in Lake Erie and the Portage river., Cost of living, Weather, More natives than transplants. My neighborhood and my equally hearty neighbors. Christmas, A warm bowl of soup in Feb. Naked trees blooming and full trees wilting. High School football on a chili Friday night. Cedar Point, Buckeye football and Tigers baseball. But most of all, living my life with all the things i have come accustom to, dependent on and in love with. The peace of mind that comes with not having to chase happiness all the way to California.

The weather here is fantastic, there is something to do in every season and the only part i dont like about our weather is its unpredictability. if can handle any extreme but being able to count on a mild winter or a reasonable rainy season or a certain number of days where the humidity is bearable is not possible. You just never know from season to season what kind of mood that season is going to be in when it gets here until it actually gets here. That said, i do enjoy all the seasons and even 8 inches of snow or two consecutive weeks of 15-20 weather.  Today is by far the exception 

JDK

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RK84's picture

High School football on a chili Friday night

If that's not a just little slice of heaven. Especially seeing the small schools, where the towns basically shut down for the game.  

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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lew-e's picture

While the weather is nice, I’ll say this and it’s for a variety of reasons

anywhere > California 

I’m in St. Louis for family/work. I’ll end up settling in Missouri because much like California, my home state of Illinois is a dumpster fire 

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aj99's picture

Lol.  Okay. St. Louis? Clearly you haven't spent much time in CA. I'm sure the wineries, beaches, hiking and mountain biking trails, culture, national parks, and 14k foot peaks, are better in MO.  Or maybe it's the art scene you're loving, because the architecture and museums are terrible out here.  You should never visit.  You would just hate it.  Especially Griffith Park or Golden Gate Park. They're hideous. You would hate it. Also the university system sucks here- it's super expensive and they don't do any worthwhile research.

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lew-e's picture

Don’t think I said anything about St. Louis being gods gift to earth. But truth be told, still would rather live around this dump than out in California. Maybe sometime in the past. Maybe sometime in the future. But as it sits now I will take a hard pass. A very hard pass. Enjoy your parks and museums. I’ll enjoy myself plenty out here without them. 

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

Hard pass on California. Y'all literally are trying to split into two different states and one sides wants to be its own country. 

I love the 4 seasons of Ohio and really the only natural disaster we have to worry about is an occasional twister. 

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LCT's picture

This is a good point. California's on an inevitable collision course with itself. When it happens, half the peeps will say "well no shit" while the other half say "how could this happen?"

And the latter will still think the former are idiots.

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RK84's picture

You could say that about the country as a whole these days.

note: this is not a political comment, just observational opinion.

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LCT's picture

I agree. It's not Politics; just reality.

And I'm not just pickin' on California, state-wise. Illinois is in a very similar position. There's Chicago and Not Chicago, and Chicago always gets its way.

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Wargor's picture

Some rough math says that Chicago and suburbs in Illinois make up about 8.4 million of the 12.8 million people in Illinois.  I'm not trying to be snarky, but of course Chicago gets its way (that's not me saying that is necessarily right of fair).  Our government isn't set up to handle the city vs. rural divide at a state level.  It happens in reverse too (Atlanta vs. Not Atlanta GA; NOLA vs. not NOLA; etc.).  Of course, on the national level we have a system in favor of sparsely populated states (in total) vs. densely populated ones.  Wyoming gets one electoral vote per 143K people while Ohio gets one for every 489K people.  We have a lot of historical reasons for why this is so, but too much vested interest on one side or the other (typically whoever is benefiting) to really examine the issue.  Chicago isn't going to give up its relative power any more than states like Wyoming are going to give up theirs. 

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LCT's picture

Right. It's all about population but that makes the point. Farmers & rural-types downstate have nothing in common with the Chicagoans in charge. For how much longer can that possibly be sustainable as Illinois' fiscal & economic problems continue to pile up?

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Wargor's picture

I'd guess for quite some time.  It isn't like part of a state can rebel, and if those down-state can't convince enough of their fellow Illini to exercise corrective action at the ballot box, I don't see a change.  Except that there will eventually be a change as people with means move out, I suppose.  As difficult as moving can be for some, it is a lot easier than mounting some sort of change movement (peaceful or otherwise).

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LCT's picture

"It isn't like part of a state can rebel"

I don't believe this to be the case, from Irish democracy to Civil War and all points (from peaceful to non-peaceful) between. You see what's going on in France right now? It's a country yes, but very comparable to Illinois in many ways.

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Wargor's picture

Yes, there are a few examples, but for this country the one example occurred in the middle of the civil war.  Now, if you want to talk about what could happen in a civil war, sure it is wide open.  But apart from that, I don't see armed revolution in one part of one state being a very conceivable event.  

Now that I'm thinking about it though, perhaps Southern Illinois could be a compromise for the addition of Puerto Rico or Washington DC as states.  Or as part of those that favor breaking California and possibly Texas into multiple states.  

As I think about it I find it interesting to reflect back on some of the conventional wisdom at the time of founding that worried that republics didn't work on a large scale.  Certainly we can point to the success of the US as a counter to that thinking, but we spent from 1820ish to 1860 on the brink of civil war, then after the war spent 30+ years with one side dominating the other as a result of that war.  Two world wars and the cold war were unifying factors in the 20th century.  Now that the cold war is over we see increased pressure on the fault lines, not just here, but also in Europe.  We have a nuclear and military umbrella providing a measure of security which allows us the luxury / folly to focus on our differences.  The Roman Republic didn't fall to internal divisions in the face of Carthage, it waiting till Carthage was no longer a threat before tearing itself apart.

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LCT's picture

^great post

Every time I hear something to the effect of "X couldn't happen here" I think of how our country is still a baby, relatively speaking. Just about anything can happen here.

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Wargor's picture

Who knows, we might all get along.  ;)

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Wargor's picture

True, but both sides believe they'll be on the right side of that equation.  Too much "convinced we're right" and not enough "the other guy probably has some points and reason behind their thinking".

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LCT's picture

I don't agree with this. I think we've arrived at a place where many of the differences are foundational and not reconcilable. This will hold...until it can no longer hold.

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RK84's picture

I find this interesting because how long did it take to get this far down the rabbithole?

That we are so entrenched in our beliefs that you cant see the other side as human?

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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LCT's picture

I think everybody sees the other side as human, just that there are competing visions for what the future should look like. Personally I see our most fundamental chasm as that one side is happy to be governed by judicial fiat whereas the other prefers governance via democratic representation in legislatures & the executive.

Thomas Sowell wrote a great related book if you haven't read it: A Conflict of Visions. Over 30 years old but timely as ever.

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RK84's picture

I think it has always been that way to some degree, but divide is greater now than ever.

I also think more than ever people are genuinely questioning leadership and their ability to deliver. Talking heads aren't going to get it done, or at least all sides should push for that.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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Elks' comb over's picture

You should check out Joe Rogans podcast. It’s so good.

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RK84's picture

This just in people think where they live is the best place to live - shocker.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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KBonay's picture

It's like defending your vehicle.  Or handgun. 

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LCT's picture

What about defending your vehicle with your handgun?

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RK84's picture

Now we're making progress, see LCT open dialogue, we really can change the world.

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KBonay's picture

What about defending your vehicle with your handgun?

You should start a thread.

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LCT's picture

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NoVAsmitty's picture

I don't think you're allowed to do that in California.  That's what the police are for isn't it?

“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman

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RK84's picture

Cant really defend my truck in Cali, they wouldn't allow me to have it out there. My handguns, though...

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KBonay's picture

Your truck would be fine.  But the gun regulation here is ridiculous. 

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RK84's picture

Truck is deleted and tuned, no way I pass emissions out there.

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Buckeye0905's picture

I just really love living in Columbus. It’s affordable, easy to navigate, and within a three hour drive of most family. I was bored living here after graduating from OSU but there were many entertainment options  being built while I lived in Texas. If I’m bored here, i can go visit friends in Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincy, etc. People just seem to be nicer here.

My gripes are the lack of hills and/or lakes but you can find those a short drive away. Also, if I’m overwhelmed with the city life, I can just visit my parents in the hills of Eastern Ohio for a long weekend. 

Yes, the cold can suck at times but having solid winter clothes, decent tires and an efficient furnace make it pretty tolerable. I also save vacation for this time to take a few long weekend golfing trips to warmer areas to alleviate any symptoms of winter blues. 

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Skunk bear blood's picture

I've lived / extended stay in some pretty cold places.  I grew up in the Columbus area and view Columbus as having moderate winters comparably. I ended up living here in Folsom CA mainly for work.  Now retired I like it here well enough to spend my time here (for now).  I don't miss harsh winters.  If I want a snow day I head up the hill.  In an hour or so I see plenty of snow.

Buy the ticket take the ride.

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aboynamedtracy's picture

Highest standards of living around the globe are all found close to poles, far from the warm / hot equator. Happiest places, healthiest places, pretty much all enviable metrics are dominated by the colder regions of the world. I despise excessive heat and putting on a coat is barely an inconvenience.

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kjonesATX's picture

My parents lived in Columbus for 10 years, and that's where my brother and I were born. My mom couldn't stand the winters anymore, so we moved. My dad had the business and got the final say. Decided on Austin, back before it was cool to move here. 

In many ways, Austin and Columbus are very similar. Major university, state capital, similar size and demographics, cost of living, no professional sports (not big 3 anyway - NFL, NBA, MLB), etc. The primary difference is the weather. So if you get to choose between two places that are virtually identical in many ways, but one has a much colder winter and a much milder summer, or one that has a much warmer summer and a much milder winter.. I'm probably going to take the latter - all else being equal. 

I've seen some mention family, and that's a great reason. My parents moved away from their family to Columbus in the 70s, and now almost all of my family (and my wife's) are in Texas. 

The one thing that Columbus has over Austin, is THE Ohio State University. I would like to say that I would have season tickets and/or go to at minimum one game a year if I lived there, but even in the past few years here we haven't made a Texas game every year (my wife is a Longhorn). We try to make a game here in Austin at least once every year, and we have been able to travel to Ohio State games as well - 7 since start of 2014 season.

It will be in the 70s here all weekend. I'll take that. 

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jpfbucks01's picture

So there are some similarities between Cbus and Austin (i have been there several times), but most of them are superficial, ie about the same size, state capital, big university

But otherwise quite different

Austin is significantly more expensive to live in than Columbus due to housing costs. Columbus overall is 10% below the national average while Austin is 30% above and this is primarily driven by housing costs. Columbus housing is over 20% below the national average while Austin is over 80% above

Austin is significantly hotter than Columbus. Columbus gets a handful of 90 degree days a year and on a rare occasion will flirt with 100, Austin averages 95 per day in July alone and of course in winter we get snow which si almost unheard of in Austin

Income taxes dot exist in Texas and are relatively high in Ohio, bus sales taxes are higher in Austin than in Columbus while property taxes are about even.

Rent on a 2 BR is almost double in Austin though as is the cost of median priced home

Columbus spends almost 50% more per student on schooling than Austin

Austin being a southern town is far more religious than Columbus and skews more Catholic, more ethnic minority in that over half the residents are non-white and more liberal (no judgement on any of those just stating facts)

Lastly the state they are in are dramatically different

Austin is a fairly liberal island in an otherwise very conservative State, where Columbus is a mildly liberal town in a fairly moderate state. Texas has voted republican in 13 of the last 17 presidential elections including all of them since 1980 (12 elections). Ohio has voted democrat 6 times and republican 8 times in the last 14 elections

So yeah some high level similarities but not really

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cmented36's picture

If I were to move anywhere for "weather" reasons my vote has to go with Puerto Rico or US Virgin Islands. There's much more important reasons to live somewhere other than weather though, so Columbus I'll stay for a now. 

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1989DuckDuckGooseChampion's picture

There is no way I would ever live in California for the following reasons: State tax’s are way to high, cost of living is way to high, not enough water, possible earthquakes, wildfires, way over populated and I don’t agree with the state politics. 

It is freaking cold out right now but I’ve got a coat, hat and gloves.  Every state has its flaws. 

Atlanta shuts down if there is 1 inch of snow. We had 20” in March of 2008 and I still made it to work on time. 

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Elks' comb over's picture

Don’t forget the air pollution. Future outlook for LA traffic if they don’t get that cleaned up in the future.

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Buckeye Knight's picture

Personally, I can't stand hot weather. I hate anything over 75 and super sunny. I feel like I'm being cooked. If I'm working outside, low to mid 60's and mostly sunny/ partly cloudy is PERFECT weather

I like having seasons. Fall is my favorite season, it's cool and mild. Summer I HATE.

I can put on more layers and be fine in cold weather, even when I work outside.  I can't take enough off to be comfortable in hot/sunny weather.

If I could move anywhere, it'd be Colorado.  Absolutely gorgeous state.  I would never live in Florida or Cali, for a variety of reasons, but the hot and sunny weather is just miserable to me.

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BlackGold's picture

^ 100% this.

Out of darkness cometh light

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jawnly211's picture

A lot of butt hurt responses to this simple question

but there’s really only one correct answer:

Different strokes for different folks

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Gratefulbuck's picture

Butthurt DV’ers, too 

+3 to compensate 

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Boomer's Ghost's picture

Personally, I have a very low heat tolerance, so I’ll take an Ohio winter over a Southern summer. 

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Sloopy1976's picture

I lived in SoCal and now we live in the Las Vegas area. I like the weather, and I like the cost of living way better than LA. However, there is a "goodness" about Ohio that just can't be replicated. I know I am biased because it is where I grew up, but while reading other's comments in this thread someone said Cali has no soul. That is what I have noticed too...a lack of community, a lack of care for each other, a persistent "me" attitude. People in CA and especially here in NV are wrapped up in themselves. Not to say that Ohioans aren't, but there is a level of humility, humbleness, and goodness in Ohioans. We had the October One shooting at Mandalay Bay when that crazy guy sniped all those people at that concert and I think that brought the city closer together. Plus I think the Golden Knights brought some pride to the city...they are our team, not a team relocating from somewhere else (Raiders). Both of these have helped galvanize our city, but I view it as very shallow and meaningless. It is sad because believe it or not, Vegas has a lot to offer outside of gamble, legalized dope, and hookers (LOL). People are cold(er) here and in CA. That's about the best way to explain it. And yes, it is 67 degrees here today but I can be at Mt. Charleston in 40 minutes to snowboard. That's cool, but it doesn't change the fact that the people aren't the same. Maybe I've been gone for too long to remember that Ohioans are jackasses too. LOL 

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KBonay's picture

My next door neighbor is dealing with his sister, who was shot in the head at the Route 91 shootings. She survived, but is no where near recovered.   I also have a co-worker who was there.  She's still so shook up she freaks out at loud noises and gets super uncomfortable in a crowd.  Said she hasn't slept an entire night since it happened.  Without being graphic, she saw some pretty messed up shit. 

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Sloopy1976's picture

I can't even imagine. It is very sad and scary. I think the community here has tried their best to use the tragedy as a catalyst for positive things (fundraisers, memorials, etc.). When the Boston Marathon tragedy happened, and the whole "Boston Strong" movement began, I couldn't help but think that you can have the "Boston Strong" movement, vow to stay strong as a community, have David Ortiz ramble on at a ceremony before a Sox game, etc. but what those people went through and those who died and the families who have to endure the fact that their loved ones were murdered, they are broken/destroyed forever. No amount of community support will ever fix what happened. The Same goes with the Route 91 shooting. But it has brought us closer together as a community, even though many of the concert attendees were out of towners. I will be interested to see how the Raiders build community here. This place is gonna be crazy when we get the NFL here, especially the Raiders. The vibe here is very different that Ohio (obviously), and the Knights have had a positive impact so it will be interesting to see what happens with the Raiders. Crime will probably spike as a result of Raider Nation being here for games. LOL

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KBonay's picture

Very happy about the Knights.  Think it's a great thing for Vegas.

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

I've resided in Seattle and I'm currently in Charlotte NC.  Born and raised in Cleveland, with strong roots in Cbus as well.

Seattle is a great place and so is Charlotte; but Ohio is better imo.  Every place has its pros and cons.

The winters aren't terrible in Ohio and the seasonal changes make you appreciate the summers more.  San Diego has great weather but 70 and sunny/365 gets boring.

I wish I was raising my kids in Ohio although they've got it pretty good here. They are missing family roots; the four seasons; and people that are more themselves and not overly self monitored as they can be in white collared places. 

Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith

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stxbuck's picture

B/c really warm states have more crime, and an entire summer of 95 degrees w/ horrific humidity-Deep South/Gulf Coast, or 110 degrees (once you get over 100 the whole "dry heat' thing is moot, valid for lower temps)-Vegas, Arizona, SoCal desert is worse, for my preference, than cold temps in the winter.

IMO, a lot of the whole "other stuff to do" is overblown. If you like overpaying at trendy vegan bistros or rock hiking-great, have fun in the Bay Area or Colorado. Myself, I live close enough to Cincinnati to get "culture"-museum exhibitions, concerts,etc. as much as I please, and a much lower cost of living otherwise. Big difference between taking a vacation somewhere and living there constantly-you aren't going to be doing "tourist" things on the regular.

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readnguy's picture

It all boils down to one point...the snowflakes are much more tolerable in Ohio...

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BuckeyeAsylum's picture

I have a house, it is paid for. I have a business, it is the foundation to retiring at 50. Otherwise, I'm gone the first chance I get. Hate this weather around here.

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rotsbu's picture

Family, friends, low cost of living, Midwestern sensibilities/friendliness of colleagues and neighbors

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

If I could combine Midwestern people and the West Coast I'd be ecstatic. Denver was a great mix of that in my opinion. Especially since if I'm going to deal with snow on a daily basis the boarding/skiing must be better than Mad River Mountain.

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milhouse4588's picture

Because temperature is not a Top 3 thing to worry about when choosing a place to live?

I'd take a stable/flourishing economy, relatively low cost of living, family, good career, etc over just having great weather any day.

Yes, if all things were equal and one could live in warmer weather of course they'd probably choose that.

I grew up in Columbus but live in Atlanta now. Warm weather is great, but what comes with warm weather is REALLY hot summers while people in the "cold" states are enjoying being outside without having to hydrate every 30 minutes as they sweat through their shirt.

To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

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bd2999's picture

The cold does not bother me unless it is very cold, like today or similar. And I like the snow. I rather deal with that than deal with the summer inferno of Arizona or similar. There are places with better climates overall, but everyplace has its own problems in some form or fashion.

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

This thread basically makes me want to move back to Ohio even more.  What a great place.  #1 in America.

Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith

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Bighemdog's picture

Fairbanks, Alaska - cause it is awesome.  Routine temperatures from December to late February or early March in the -20 to -40 range and average snowfall of more than 76" keeps the folks out who are not tough to their core.  The hunting/fishing and scenery are spectacular.  We bought a 20 acre property in the White Mountains about 90 miles north of Fairbanks for less than $15,000 and plan to put a cabin on it for next to nothing.  It will give us access to world-class moose and caribou hunting - which will feed my family for a year or more.  Fishing for halibut and salmon down to the south of here - is unparalleled anywhere in the world.  Need I mention the aurora borealis?

I left Dayton to move up here a few years ago and do not ever want to move back.  The best part - have not missed a game - not one time.

If you wanna come up over the winter some time - I'll leave the light on for you.

OH!

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Gratefulbuck's picture

I have a brother and his family that have been there for 35 years. They say it’s all the same once it gets below -10. 

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Bighemdog's picture

I am not sure I can agree with that entirely -10 to -20 I'd say okay - but vs -50 is a dramatic difference.  

OH!

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bucksfan92's picture

I always thought I'd leave CBus because I hate winter and I thought there were more "fun" places to live.  Over the years in my fairly extensive travels I have learned that 1) it gets cold everywhere in the US and 2) CBus has actually become a fun place to live.  I also no longer have to deal with early mornings and traffic so that is another plus for me. The reality is - it usually isn't that bad here.  It was actually very pleasant most of December and the first 2 weeks of January, then the bottom fell out. But days like today are so rare, and don't last that long - it's going to be in the 50s again by Sunday and stay there most of next week.  So for me, while I still hate the cold, I just don't go out when it's really cold.  From April to October there is no better place to be.  I can tolerate November and December.  Things improve in March, so it's really just Jan and Feb that are bad, and I can very easily fly away to some place warm for a weekend or a week, and I can do so on almost no notice. I went to LA for the Rose Bowl - it was cold, hell it was FREEZING at the parade in the morning 28 degrees! It was actually warmer back here. So for me, there is really no reason to leave here since the only reason I would live somewhere else is for 2 months of the year - and the reality is, unless that place is Hawaii, it's still going to be cold there in Jan and Feb as well.

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Buckeye0905's picture

Amen to this. Every “cool” place I lived was polluted with superficial people living paycheck-to-paycheck, up to their eyeballs in credit card debt but driving a new BMW. You see some of that in Columbus but people don’t give a shit for the most part. 

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RK84's picture

40k a year millionaires.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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JarheadBuck's picture

Having just come back in from walking the dogs in -25 windchill, I'd have to say because...

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buckeyenut74's picture

I’ll live in south Florida when I retire for the winter, as long as my health allows it. 

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

I'll say this, living in a place like California vs Ohio is like the difference between dating a really hot girl and the average girl next door.

For the most part, the hot girls are high maintenance but if you can find the right one (or the right living situation) it's definitely worth it. Sure, you can go with the easy/available option and it can be pretty good. And sometimes that hot girl is really high maintenance but to some guys they'd rather deal with her BS since they get to curl up next to a 10.

They key is setting your priorities and finding what you want. And just be glad you're not dating a 4 from Ann Arbor.

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Fatpants's picture

Nobody will ever try to steal an ugly girlfriend, and she’s super happy to have you. Just saying. 

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

Or, you could date a 10 who is low-maintenance.  Yea, not to be superficial or anything, but when your hot girl is 60, she'll be 60, but she'll still be high-maintenance. 

I'll take Ohio.

Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

If there's a 4 in Whoreville, she's just passing through.

jebes Michigana

jebi rak

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buckeye1976's picture

Here is dynamic that really only happens in the bay: getting paid!

I have a buddy that is a Director of IT. He moved from Columbus making $140k

Moved to San Jose and got a recruiter to find him a job. The recruiter asked how much he made previously and what he was looking for. 

He said $160k and the recruiter laughed and said “are you sure”? Directors here can make minimum $210k.

Point is, I refuse to roll out of bed for anything less than mid 6 figures for a non director role. I’ve lived in different states and this the only place they expect you to make that much.

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

While that dynamic of really high salaries is real in the Bay Area, it does happen in many other locations including LA and NY.

And yes, costs are higher here but the increased salaries can cover a significant amount of those costs (or much more) as long as you don't try to live directly in the ridiculous areas like SF and Silicon Valley. There's a reason many commute from the burbs.

Careful though, grossly inflated and generalized rents and home prices are OK but when you share how the numbers work out for you, you'll get yourself some disagree votes (even when it was solicited).

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RK84's picture

Director of IT of what? at 140? I have Scrum masters making 140, so that's not a huge deal. Columbus pays well.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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Guts's picture

Before people start trashing me. This is my opinion and mine alone. It may not be right, but it's how I feel.

I grew up here. I'm used to the cold and snow. I'm more at home in this climate. It doesn't bother me. I actually prefer the weather here. It's much better for me to have seasons and actual weather than to live somewhere that's warm and sunny all year round. I've never lived in Cali, but I've lived in the south and the constant sunshine just makes everything feel fake and plastic to me. Like people who move from warm and sunny places to more rainy and cloudy places, the constant sun and heat effects me negatively. Those places make a nice vacation destination, but I will never call them home.

Also, I love Columbus. Everywhere else I've lived people care more about manners and being polite than they do about being honest. While nearly everyone I've met from Columbus while they may not be the nicest all the time, will tell you exactly how they feel when they feel it. From my experience people from Ohio in general are more honest and less two faced than other places I've lived.

I would write more about it, but it's been written about enough earlier in this thread. Columbus also has a big city vibe while not breaking the bank.

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analyticalguy's picture

Why would anyone trash you for this? It makes total sense.

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Guts's picture

More for the second half. It's quite a blanket statement about people from the north and the south. I could very well be completely wrong, but from my experience, it's true.

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OSU56's picture

It's cold right now in the burbs of Cleveland, but living here all of my life, I have learned to handle it. Had a place in Florida for many years, and enjoyed the fall-spring there when we visited. Did many of summers there with the kids when they were growing, but the heat is no longer tolerable in the summer. The real cold days and snow here are more challenging now as I get older and use to love it. All of the family is here, so we call this home.

Buckeyes are close and the Browns actually provide a glimmer of hope to be competitive.... finally. Cavs won a Championship here and was able to see one in my lifetime after the close attempts by the Browns and the Indians in the past. Health and family is good-life so far has been good here.

Enjoying daily the 62-39 ttun beatdown.

 

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btalbert25's picture

Id' much rather have a few weeks of cold, because let's face it it really just doesn't get that cold here in the winter anymore, than Phoenix or Texas.  The heat in Arizona is ridiculous, for months.  Calfornia, though, is a different animal.  I'd live there in a heartbeat for a multitude of reasons.  I just don't understand weather as a motivation to live somewhere.  Like damn, we had 2 days where it was below zero, I gotta go somewhere else to live!

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thedewman10's picture

Thats a good question. And now that I think of it, I really don’t know.

TheDewMan10

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Brutus Buckeye's picture

Well for one thing Columbus isn't that cold compared to the rest of the Midwest, Northeast, Northwest, etc. 

I also like to have four seasons. Three months of scorching heat is plenty for me. 

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Todd-Not Boeckmann's picture

To paraphrase Winston Churchill:

Next week, it will be warm again.  And you'll still be overrun with weirdos and high taxes.

jebes Michigana

jebi rak

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analyticalguy's picture

Family, job, and avoiding not just worse summer heat that we have here but also any other inconveniences (hurricanes, earthquakes, fires) that occur elsewhere.

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CC's picture

Because where I live we have NO:

Feces in the street

Needles in the street

Wildfires

Mudslides

Blackouts

Earthquakes

We also have 4 seasons.

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Brohio's picture

Do you honestly walk out on the porch in the morning and sip your coffee and let out a sigh like "ahhhhh. Not an earthquake or mudslide in sight." Lol. I would bet a month's pay that the majority of the people in this thread talking like winter hardos that give a daily thanks to the universe for their low risk of natural disasters and don't care about nice weather are the same guys that send every buddy in their phone pictures of the beach while they're on vacation like "How's the snow back in Ohio? lol"

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CC's picture

No, I look out at the water.  Life is good here.

And I don't pay 10% income tax.

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stxbuck's picture

Yes, b/c cliched vacation texts and the physical presence of the San Andreas or Northridge fault lines and killer wildfires on the regular as part of the local ecosystem are exactly the same thing.........

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

We have 4 seasons where I live: Hot & dry, really damn nice, fall with some rain, and really damn nice again.

Blackouts

Earthquakes

Pretty sure I saw the -30F temp caused some Frost Quakes yesterday.  Power lines have been snapping due to the temperature causing black-outs, and in Michigan there are natural gas outages so people are being asked to turn down their heat to 65F.

It's soo cold that Chicago has to light its train tracks on fire to keep them break breaking.

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FalcotoyourMartel's picture

Are you sure it's not Doc?

Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever. -Falco

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CowCat's picture

I'm in Seattle. Moderate weather year round. It rarely snows in the city, but you can be up skiing in 45 minutes by driving East. 

I could never live in a place like Florida or Texas. Too much heat and humidity. California has mild weather, but for the work I do (tech) the commute would drive me insane. 

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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Brohio's picture

This thread has me dying still. The news has a lot of you thinking 8.7 Earthquakes are just an average Tuesday in LA lol. I'm in my 30s and have been in LA for almost 7 years and I can say my parents/friends in Ohio have spent more on basement water damages in the last 10 years than all of my friends in LA have collectively spent on Earthquake related costs in their lifetimes. 

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Fatpants's picture

Maybe no earthquake, but you had to have been consumed by brushfire or buried by a mudslide by now, right?

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Brohio's picture

Yep. Every day I hopscotch over bumshit and dodge mudslides to go pull my car out of the raging wildfire before the 12pm daily Richter scale shattering earthquake hits lol. 

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LCT's picture

How many times a day do you have to use your AK? From what I gather that's a frequent enough occurrence that going a whole day without having to constitutes a good day.

Lifetime vs. UM: L 8-1, C 7-0, T 4-0

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Brohio's picture

 that going a whole day without having to constitutes a good day.

The inverse could be said if Ice Cube was from Kentucky lol. 

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LCT's picture

Crap, man. Most of Ohio. (square mileage-wise)

Lifetime vs. UM: L 8-1, C 7-0, T 4-0

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Elks&#039; comb over's picture

That sounds horrifying having to put up with that everyday Brohio. Your insurance rates must be through the roof too!

“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.

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Fatpants's picture

I live here because it’s home. I tolerate the weather. 

With that said, I’d trade this cold for the risk of earthquake any damn day. 

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xbuceye's picture

I was stationed in San Diego when I experienced my 1st earthquake. I lived on the 4th floor barracks on base when we had a couple of 4.5 range tremors. Just enough to get your attention. One of my buddies was scared to death and decided to sleep in his minivan in the parking lot that night. After a few hours and more than a few beers myself and a couple of buddies slip down to the parking lot, make sure that he's sleeping and proceed to start rocking and shaking his minivan. He wakes up screaming his ass off scared to death until he figured out what was happening when he saw us laughing our asses off! Let's just say that he may have killed us had he been able to catch us.

I was in my hotel room in downtown San Diego several years ago watching the Duke-Butler National Championship BB game on the TV when a 7.2 earthquake that was centered 100 miles south in Mexico hit. It takes a couple of seconds to figure out what is going on when they hit when you're not used to them. That one scared the hell outta me. Didn't do any real damage in the area other than my underwear anda bunch of car alarms going off.

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Ahh, that "10" is starting to look pretty now huh?

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Fatpants's picture

I was outside an hour ago. It was 7 with no wind and it didn’t feel too bad. 

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Buckeye Knight's picture

Meh. It was -6 (not including wind chill) when I started work outside this morning and got up to about 0 degrees a few hours later when I finished. 2 shirts, a good winter jacket, thick socks with boots, and just some jeans (didn't even put on long johns). I was sweating when it reached 0. You can dress/layer and be comfortable in the cold. You just can't get comfortable when it's hot (unless you find air conditioning).

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RMLogic's picture

Thousands of Ohio transplants here on the Florida west coast ( Longboat Key/ Anna Maria/Tampa) and I would would say 95% would never go back to the dreary cold weather. I can play golf or tennis or swim when its 90 degrees and humid and go take 3 showers a day.

I can wear shorts and a tshirt almost every day. Yes sometimes its hot and humid but not like Arizona or Vegas where your skin fries. It was 63 today and cloudy and windy and it felt awful. Once you get used to hot weather you can complain but would never want to be cold again.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Most people don’t the ability to just up and leave a place.  

And some really like Ohio.  I have lived in New England for 30 years.  It’s extremely nice and the seasons are great.   But I actually still miss the hell out of Ohio.   

Fields of Dreams

 

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RK84's picture

But fuck you because California or something like that.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

Want to live in the Bay Area?  Here you go: https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Oakland-CA/24795917_zpid/13072_rid...

It's only $235 but you get that experience.

Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith

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Elks&#039; comb over's picture

Lol. Flipper bought it for $17,500  in July and spent absolutely nothing on the exterior and about $20,000 on the inside if that. Actually I’ll take the way under because notice they didn’t take any pictures of the kitchen.

“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.

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hnyg8modonwelfare's picture

Oh my God you're right.  And it actually sold for $225 in October.  This had to be an auction for $17k.  Hardly any rehab done.

Thank you Urban Meyer and Gene Smith

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Fatpants's picture

Great home layout, although quaint in sq ft, there are 2 spacious rooms with separate entrances.

It's a 364 square foot house, calling the two rooms "spacious" is the apex of realtor bullshit. 

And.......you're either shitting in your bedroom or kitchen if you live here.

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buckeyefan67's picture

Yet another example of housing cost in Cali.  My parents moved there to Granite Bay (norcal) for a decade(dad promotion) and my bro-in-law has lived in Marina del Rey (socal) for nearly 40 yrs so I know more than a little about the state.  My 2700 sq ft home would be worth @1.2 mill there and the taxes would be double . With forest fires up north and  the  San Andreas fault in the south,  me thinks I will stay here.  Nice place(s) to visit but wouldn't want to live there.

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Elks&#039; comb over's picture

Costs for building permits out there are also outrageous to try and deter companies from building

“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.

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Buckeye06's picture

I moved back home to Texas in November and couldn't be happier.  You  get the warm weather without the sky high prices on homes.  I lived in Miami for 6 years and that real estate market is expensive near the city.  I don't want to be bundled up for 5 months a year (dallas you bundle up on and off for 3)

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RK84's picture

Where are you bundled up for 5 months?

I was wearing a jacket at most pretty much through December here in Columbus.

It doesn't matter whether you're the lion or a gazelle-when the sun comes up, you'd better be running.

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Elks&#039; comb over's picture

Yep. The cold didn’t hit here until January really and won’t be around every long. Winters have been more mild than I remember as a kid.

“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.

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Buckeye06's picture

When i say bundled up i mean anything more than a tshirt on a morning walk with the dog.  That to me means 60 in the morning.  

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buckeyefan67's picture

06, I remember San Antone basic training marches to morning chow at 6AM wearing parkas because it was near/below freezing in January .  But by firing line practice in early afternoon , we were in tshirts for sure .

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