Class of 2020 Recruiting News (Part 12)

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Per 247 and Rivals Paris Johnson and mom are visiting again this weekend. 

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osu992's picture

Door's always open for the crown jewel of 2020.

New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Hopefully they tell the Staff they are done with other visits. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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BornAndBredABuckeye's picture

Must need a sense of normalcy after visiting the champions of life.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Just give him his own office and name him captain of this class. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Seattle Linga's picture

Thanks for the info Spooner

See you in Indy !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

Seattle Sounders 2019 MLS Champions

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MN Buckeye's picture

Thanks, Spooner! Looks like we are getting high interest from a bunch of 5-star and top-100 players for this class.

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gobucks1966's picture

I noticed 12 offers to Ohio kids either the talent is better in this class or as one expert said in a interview a olive branch is being sent out to Ohio high school coach's. I hope it's not number two and when they evaluate talent they look at the talent level and not where they come from. Either way we are not taking 3 Ohio tight ends and is the Lachey kid a take? No nothing about him other than he is Jim's son I believe.

nine oh

Denny

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Bucks19's picture

No olive branches are given to Ohio kids. They are takers. 

Lachey is a project. BUT athletic. Outstanding basketball player!

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VirginiaBuckeye14's picture

Dwight McGlothern is so hard to read. I can’t tell if we’re just one of many  fan bases that he’s hyping up, or if he’s really leaning towards us. It seems like whenever I think he is, he tweets something else about another school. Either way, love the story of his recruitiment so far lol

Can they catch him? No they can't, touchdown.

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Port Richey Buckeye's picture

Would love to see Meyers face if Day can take recruiting crown in his first year!

Fuck eSECpn and fuck Mythigan.

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Sanantonefan's picture

No way--you need to have three or four losses to win B1G COY, right????

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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irishfury's picture

Im worried.  I just feel that its going to be a let down after the years of Urban.  

Don't like losing out on Tre at DT already.  Players like Jakob James wouldnt have sniffed this team in Urbans better classes.  Im hoping im wrong though.

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Belliott's picture

People would have said the same thing about Thayer Munford or darron lee. Let’s let the kid get on campus and see what’s up. 

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keith7456's picture

Except 2 things from what I have been reading around.
1. The staff didn't "lose" tre, they decided they didn't really want him.
2. Jacobs is super underrated and everyone expects him to make a big jump in the rankings before the end of the cycle.

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logamaniac's picture

they didn't really want him *now.  Fixed that for you, because from what I've seen they wanted to see him improve and develop his body - show he was committed to the craft - before he was a take.  

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keith7456's picture

+1 Thanks for the more detailed info

Also just realized I called him Jacobs....I meant James

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Bucks19's picture

Tre was a take. Don’t anyone kid themselves 

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LouBuck35's picture

We are literally over a year from NSD for the 2020 class.  Why don't we pump the brakes on all the doom and gloom, goodness.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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logamaniac's picture

welcome to what the fan forums have evolved into

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LouBuck35's picture

Yup.  There used to be a time where not 100% positive news on a recruit meant we might still be in the game, or there is a long way to go, or we'll fill in the blanks with other capable players.

Now one peep about something maybe not going our way and it's that our program is doomed, Day will never live up to Urban, let's burn down The Shoe and drop to NAIA. 

If I'm not mistaken we have the #3 class for 2020 behind Bama and LSU and are in the top group for a huge amount of elite prospects.  With 370ish days until 2020 NSD, how in the hell can anyone be pessimistic about where we are as a program? 

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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Sanantonefan's picture

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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Bucks19's picture

During the Zach Smith deal not 20 people even commented on the hurry up. Now everyone is assholes and elbows into recruiting 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

But...there wasn't any recruiting going on during the Zach Smith deal.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Bucks19's picture

Yes there was. The Hurry Up had articles nearly every night. 

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shawn kemps kids's picture

Let me start off by saying this post is by no means a slight on Andrew Lind or whomever replaced him, sorry for not remembering the name, but there's only so much recruiting news that can be reported on. At that time, most of the hurry ups were "hey, here's 3 kids that were offered. You may or may not hear about them ever again in regards to Ohio State recruiting. Some are 18+ months from even signing with a school." There just wasn't much to comment on. Now, most of the 2019 class has signed and a lot of people have moved onto the 2020 recruits for the first time so there's more to talk about. 

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

I don't think anyone replaced Andrew Lind, at least not yet.

Go Bucks!

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Yes there was. The Hurry Up had articles nearly every night. 

Except go back and check: there wasn’t anything truly insightful, i.e., nothing that told us the staff was actually doing any real recruiting. Because wherever they went, whoever they talked to, the same questions would’ve come up: who’s going to be Ohio State’s coach next year? Instead, they widely hunkered down in the WHAC bunker to ride out the storm.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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stxbuck's picture

Don't you know-speculating about kids from South Carolina and California being interested or offered or not w/ tOSU is WAY more important for the future of the program than getting the best staff possible and having them worry about getting the kids who have already signed coached up and what not?

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irishfury's picture

This is where everyone is wrong.  Im not all doom and gloom just trying to have a discussion about the current class and hope we keep recruiting elite now that Urbans gone.  All I said was some things that have happened recently worried me.  No where did I say well DAY COULDNT HOLD URBANS JOCK STRAP THE WORLD IS GOING TO END BECAUSE WE CAN'T RECRUIT NOW!!!!!!!!!!  

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Urban took on plenty of 3* guys too, and we are a year away from the final player rankings. James' offer list is far more typical of a 4* than a 3* and I expect him to end up there. We are going to lose out on 80% of the top players we recruit to other schools, including Tre Williams. The key is to get the 20% you want of the top 100 or so players you are recruiting. This stuff happens every year. Clemson, Bama, etc are gonna win some battles too.

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

They have a chance based on class size alone. The 2020 class is going to be a large one (high 20s) so they should have a good chance of having the overall points lead. 

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NHBuckeye's picture

Sa'Vell Smalls releasing his top schools in February.  Hopefully Ohio State is on it.

Fields of Dreams

 

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buckeyeEddie27's picture

Obligatory Sandlot reference

I know there's a game Saturday, and my ass will be there.

I Believe In Ohio State.

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logamaniac's picture

Supposedly 6’3 230 already.  If he grows any more where does that put him?  Edge or mlb?

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Mastro16's picture

MLB is one of the only positions where I wouldn’t just stick someone in who looks the part. Gotta be a leader among leaders and gotta know the roles of everyone on defense

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logamaniac's picture

didn't Kat play in the middle?  seemed to work out ok for him not knowing what his roles were let alone his surrounding cast.  

sometimes guys can get by on being freaks of nature with instincts, leaders can be from any position and its just as easy for a safety to know the roles ie Jenkins.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Katzenmoyer was a bazillion years ago. The game has obviously changed since he manned the middle and two positions--fullback and middle linebacker--have not made the turn (other positions have evolved; these two have largely devolved to the point of almost being phased out). Ironically, they're the same position on opposite sides of the ball--as teams have drifted away from straight ahead power offenses that relied on the fullback taking out the MLB, the need for a defensive hole plugger has gone away, too. MLB has become a two-down position, usually pulled for the nickelback on passing downs. MLBs don't have to cover a lot of real estate and they often have great instincts that compensate for a lack of athleticism but their weaknesses can be easily exposed when the field is stretched (see: Tuf Borland--classic hard-nosed MLB whose lack of speed was too often exploited).

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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logamaniac's picture

maybe you'd prefer a McMillan then if the Katz reference is antiquated for you?  6'2 240 at the combine?  

Jerome Baker - 6'1 229 at the combine playing outside is already smaller than this kid supposed measurements.

Darron Lee - 6'1 232 at the combine.

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bucks_4_life's picture

Katz graduated h.s the same year as me... thanks for making me feel old.

On a serious note though, I was gonna say the same thing. Katz doesnt play the same position as a MLB nowadays. Completely different game now.

The juice is worth the squeeze

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Kangarooman's picture

Goodness they line this guy up everywhere.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Ohio State trying to annex Washington 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Maybe Ohio should declare war on British Columbia and claim Washington as our spoil of war, ala Toledo?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Calgarybuck's picture

That would take care of the whole legalized weed debate ;)

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The Cynic's picture

Does anyone know if Atteberry is being recruited as an OT or to play inside? He moved to Center this year but he has the frame to be a Tackle and is listed as one. Our need for at least 3 Tackles is immense.

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Northbrook's picture

I'm not sure. From looking at 247 they seem to think the top options for 2 more OTs are Corcoran, Wray, Atteberry and Young. I don't think Wray is still an option until I see something saying they are still recruiting him. Staff have also offered Toutant, a PSU commit, and there are other offers to guys 247 lists as OTs. Christ for example. My guess is the only one they might take a commit from right now is Corcoran and they will continue to evaluate the others.

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Northbrook's picture

As for recruiting the inside guys they might take a couple guys that might be able to play OT too in case one of the OT prospects doesn't work out. Maybe James is one of those and maybe Hatchett would be too..

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JarheadBuck's picture

I'm not a fan of the inside-out move.  OT's can move in, but C and OG very seldom have much success moving out.  Often easier to fill out a TE and move them down to OT.  Anyway, that's my 2 cents.

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Northbrook's picture

I hear you but when they are 6'5" or greater and have the feet and wing span for it, but can still play inside with proper leverage, I can see it. That's asking a lot though.

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Bucks19's picture

Wray is still being recruited. Please give us insight why he’s no longer an option. 

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Hanawi_'s picture

Most insiders have said that he wasn't high on the current staff's list. I haven't heard that they visited recently. Think James replaced him in the class. 

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urbansjacket2's picture

Per 247, it's likely Darvon Hubbard signs elsewhere. Bama or somewhere out west are more likely destinations. I'm personally fine with this--we're in on much bigger RB names that I like quite a bit more than Hubbard. 

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bd2999's picture

I suppose, but he seemed like a good solid player that was pretty loyal to OSU for quite a while. The problem with shooting high is it is more likely to miss. That said the ceiling is much higher.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

I'm fine with moving on from Hubbard. Like others I was not wowed by his tape or numbers. Transferring from a top HS to a weak one almost never happens and is an odd move for him also. He feels like a player on the 3/4* line rather than a top 200 guy. Clearing the deck to try and land a top 100 RB is preferable.

This is OSU; the staff should be able to land a top guy in 2020, especially when they can point out they didn't land one of the top RBs in 2019 (I love Crowley but he was ranked where he was) coupled with Snead being gone and Dobbins potentially leaving after the year. I know the staff will almost certainly take 2 but I'd rather get the top target in the class and make him the centerpiece before taking the lower ranked one.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Interesting. My theory was that by taking Hubbard, they were leaving the door open for a higher rated back thinking he wouldn't be intimidated by Hubbard. Going the reverse route might work against getting a good #2. People can talk about competitiveness but these kids want to play and they're watching who's committing where and how those moves impact their own chessboard, i.e., J.K. Dobbins, who allegedly told Urban that if OSU took Cam Akers, he was out; I can't imagine anyone thinking Dobbins isn't a competitor, he was just working the odds.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

I think you can do it either way but the difference in the Akers/Dobbins equation was those were essentially the two top RBs in the class or maybe two of the top three. I don't think it will be difficult to find another good RB to fill in the class if OSU gets a top 100 guy. For example, Teague had no issue jumping in with Snead. Other guys wanted that spot too, so much so that there was speculation OSU might take a 3rd RB late in the cycle plus Gill at HB. I just don't see the point in being married to Hubbard if you're not sold on him if there's any chance it hurts you with a higher ranked target. OSU will always be able to find a good 2nd option at RB later on.

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Bucks19's picture

RB is an entirely different deal. Your can take 2 per class. Out of 8, 2 or 3 leave. 

As with Hubbard, he was a TAKE all the way.  The theory of taking him as he wouldn’t scare of a higher rated kid is not a good one is well.......a stretch 

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Not completely sure what you're trying to say here but I don't think Hubbard was a take all the way. The staff was very cautious about offering him because they were high on so many other RBs and I actually wonder if he would have been offered if not for Jack Miller. Now he's not playing with Miller anymore, Day is in charge, and the they don't seem thrilled he's in the class. I know the commenters here are not OSU football coaches but it sort of tells you something when most of us are positive about almost every commit yet with Hubbard there have been many people here not loving the commitment based on his body of work.

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logamaniac's picture

Hadn’t it been reported at least once that OSU kind of went silent with Hubbard hoping he’d figure something else out?

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swflbuckeye1's picture

Not trying to ride the Bama bandwagon but I honestly don’t think he is good enough to play for bama. He’s a good back but Bama has consistently gotten 5* backs in every class. 

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urbansjacket2's picture

Could not agree more. HE may want to play for Bama but I don’t think he’s a take for them tbh. Or if he is, it’s a depth move. They’re loaded

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Sanitarian2's picture

When fishing it's best to get close to your limit and THEN go for the trophy, otherwise you might go home hungry.

Sani

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urbansjacket2's picture

This class doesn't need a solid RB, we have ample supply of depth. It needs a star. I'm fine gambling in the deep end a bit more in 2020. 

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VirginiaBuckeye14's picture

I see where you’re coming from, but I think one sure take is important in this class because if Dobbins declares after this year, we’d be left with 2 scholly RB’s.. which is obviously less than ideal. I do agree though that a star RB to go with Fields or the future would make this offense scary with how we’re recruiting QB’s and WR’s 

Can they catch him? No they can't, touchdown.

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STL Buckeye's picture

Really could be three RBs if you include Steele Chambers in the group as well. Seems like all indications are that's where he will start out at.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Weber and Snead leaving makes it certain Chambers will be with the RBs. There are currently 11 LBs on roster and 4 RBs, which includes McCall who is not likely to be an every down type back. Chambers would make it 5 RBs, which is a healthier number for depth. An injury/suspension or two and Chambers actually could get some playing time at RB in 2019. He would not be in position to play for at least a year or two at LB.

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Northbrook's picture

Put him in the RB room for next season and see how 2020 recruiting goes. Then put him where he is needed most. If he plays much besides special teams in 2019 it probably means we are in trouble.

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napbuck's picture

Sam Adams who is Gee Scott’s teammate and one of Milton or Robinson, those are my wish list guys.

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BengalErnst's picture

Completely agree.. give me one of those top guys along with sam Adams who I really like. Any news on marshawn Lloyd?  The RB from Maryland I believe 

Nicholas l Ernst

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Mershawn Lloyd is a Maryland/Georgia battle. Former high school coach is at Maryland now. 

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Hanawi_'s picture

Not sure I'm really sold on Adams. Prefer two of Robinson, Bowman, Milton and Berger, if that's possible. Though I haven't heard anything about Bowman lately, so he might not be a realistic option anymore.

Do think it will be interesting to see how the numbers for skill positions go. They arguably need RBs and TEs more than WRs in this class, but seem to be the best shape for WRs. Think they need two pure RBs and two TEs. Does that mean they only take 4 WRs, though? How do Drennen and McClain stack up and where? Would they forgo a pure WR or RB to take one of those hybrid guys instead? Especially since they will probably load up on OL and DB. Should be an interesting class to follow to see how they make it work. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

BK just put a crystal ball pick in for a RB/athlete 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Northbrook's picture

Trayanum. Edit: that probably means Hubbard is out if Trayanum is coming in as a RB.

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osu992's picture

I see that he posted something 10 minutes ago, but I'm not actually seeing anything in his CB history that would match up. Maybe it takes a long minute to update. Probably means Trayanum, though he's listed as an OLB.

(2019, 2020, 2021)

Edited: agree with Northbrook.

New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.

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swflbuckeye1's picture

I think he is being recruited as a LB. I think the other Ohio kid Drennan is the RB from Ohio we get. 

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Was actually trying to find more info on Drennen earlier. I think he would be a HB so totally possible OSU could take Drennen and 2 RBs the same way they did with Snead, Teague, and Gill in 2018.

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'57Champs's picture

Per Birm, lots of top prospects from OH 2020 and 2021 classes will be on campus this weekend!

Because I couldn't go for 3.

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buckslan's picture

Speaking of 2021 I seen Bill Greene put in a CB for Ben Christman to Ohio State. He doesn't have a ranking yet but he's from Ohio and it says he's 6'6" 300lbs already. Crazy size for a high school sophomore. His only notable offer so far is PSU.

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ponder10's picture

That boy is LARGE for a punter
 

“In the end we will conserve only what we love. We will love only what we understand. We will understand only what we are taught.” ~ Baba Dioum

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Spartan13's picture

I don't think weather impact 99% of recruits and most will be coming from nearby, but if it stays -30 how could anybody want to come here 

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

Check the weather. It warms up this weekend 

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tekk69's picture

I agree with the above posters commenting on swinging for the fences.  We should be shooting for that home run in this class, multiple ones.  NO reason schools like Georgia, Bama, hell even FSU can have multiple studs and we shouldn't

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Woodshed's picture

It's approximately 1 bajillion times easier to recruit to a southern school than a northern one.

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

There’s is so much more that goes into recruiting than geographical location. 

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Woodshed's picture

Of course there is.

you are kidding yourself if you argue with the ease of recruiting to southern schools vs the ease of recruiting to northern schools.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

We recruit studs every year. Not sure what in the hell you are talking about.

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Per Gleitman, Coach Washington was in NY checking on LB/ATH William Mohan from Erasmus Hall and Country Day RB/LB Cullen Coleman. 

https://247sports.com/Player/William-Mohan-89135/

https://247sports.com/Player/Cullen-Coleman-46079317/

Said Coach had high praise for Mohan to E-Hall's coach today. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Found this on 247 about Coleman:

Per 247Sports analyst James Blanchard, Coleman clocked a legitimate 40-yard dash in the 4.4’s as a 6-foot-2, 220-pound sophomore. Since adding another inch and 10 pounds, you can see that explosive talent unleashed on film in the way he dominates at the running back position.

Here's his film: https://l.hudl.com/video/3/8304670/5be9acdec125070f584e0dd1

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Coleman ran a PR 11.27 100m as a sophomore that was 14th fastest at the New York State Track Meet. He also ran a 11.29 to win the New York State Association of Independent Schools, which has 164 member schools. His brother is a 2019 DL going to Columbia. Rye is a pretty tony community and Rye Country Day is college prep. Barbara Bush graduated from there.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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440Buck's picture

Good to hear Al Washington is out in the trail! Haven’t heard much about him in recruiting since he came over to the good guys. 

Go Bucks!

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Per ND 247 site, AZ RB Bijan Robinson told ND site he plans on visiting Columbus in March. Looks like recently offered 4* S Lathan Ransom might be joining him too. 

https://247sports.com/college/notre-dame/Article/Top-50-RB-adds-Notre-Da...

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NHBuckeye's picture

2021’s, but still noteworthy visitors.  Each of these three kids are big time recruits and each is very high on OSU. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Gleitman has said that QB Kyle McCord has us #1 on his list. He and JJ McCarthy are 2 of the elite QB's for 2021 and we will land 1 of them. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

What about Preston Stone, the 5-star from Texas? Ohio State offered him back in May 2018...is he out now that Day's in charge? He's thrown for 6,468 yards and 73 TDs and run for 660 yards and 13 TDs in two years as a starter with two more still to go.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Likely a longhorn from what I've read so unless he visits we have no shot.  Also IMO dont  see the same arm strength as JJ or McCord who can both rip it. 

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urbansjacket2's picture

As I (and others) have been saying, the staff is not necessarily sold on Hubbard, hence the limited communication that has been floated for a couple months+. Per BG, "I'm pretty close to the Hubbard situation and I think that one is very shaky at best. I'm not sure they're sold on him, and I'm not too sure he feels they're sold on him. He has other great options and I could see this one falling apart."

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

See to me thats confusing since they offered AFTER working him out in person last year. Only thing I can think of is Urban was a big fan and wanted to offer the kid and Day does not share those same feelings. Idk just feels like there's a little bit more to it IMO. 

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urbansjacket2's picture

If I remember correctly, that was exactly the speculation--that it was Day in particular that wasn't necessarily sold. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Could also be that this past season changed some people's minds.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Possible but he was averaging 15 or less carries a game since Chapparal is an air raid system and still put up good numbers when he actually got a handoff. Wasn't the best system for a RB to showcase ability. 

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FormerBuck's picture

Or they are led to believe that 2 higher ranked RBs that they like better are more than likely gonna be in the class. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Per Gleitman, we offered NY RB/LB Cullen Coleman today. Currently, unranked which is not shocking since it's still really early. Told Gleitman tOSU is very high and was really impressed by Coach Washington. 

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Board/120/Contents/Al-Washingto...

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bucks_4_life's picture

I assume since he mentioned Washington that he is being recruited as a LB? Also, is he class of 2021?

The juice is worth the squeeze

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Correct LB and class of 2020. Next week I'll spin up the 2021 class update thread to do our best to separate 2020 and 2021. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Per today's Birm article, MA tackle Zak Zinter is planning a spring visit to Columbus. Coach Day texts almost everyday and Coach Barnes has been out to see him twice in the last 2 weeks. Another high priority tackle and would be a big get. 

https://lettermenrow.com/ohio-state-football-recruiting/ohio-state-bucke...

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buckslan's picture

Tackle and corner will obviously be the most followed positions. It helps we have Paris Johnson but I'm sure we're looking for at least two more true tackles and Zinter would be a heck of a pickup. 6'6" 300lbs already.

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Hodgepodge's picture

It should probably be pointed out that his film shows him playing exclusively at right guard.  

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Spartan13's picture

I like hearing Barnes has been to MA twice in two weeks to recruit him. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Well in this case those 2 leading the charge makes the most sense. Barnes coached at Maryland and Mass is near Days old stomping grounds. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Another potential LB offer candidate that Coach Washington is following is NJ LB Tirek Austin-Cave. 3* currently @ 6-1 200 who recently qualified for nationals in 55m by running a 6.57. 

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/11581080/5bf8899da023880b00b814d3

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Quality's picture

This Oline class is going to be massive. Hopefully, this rights the ship.

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BengalErnst's picture

Offers are flying out. Want to know more about all these kids.. including the likelihood they join the class

Nicholas l Ernst

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Too early to know how much interest. Right now the staff is compiling their lists by position group and ranking them by priority. 

Also important to note that none of the new offers have been properly evaluated properly yet. Rankings are pretty much useless until the end of the summer and then after the all star games. 

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bobsegersilverbulletband's picture

How does a 300 lb kid fit into a high school desk? Especially those 6' 5" and over.

Bobcat66

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hthe620110's picture

They don't, I should know I was 6'6 and 280 and couldn't fit in any desk and when I complained I was sent out in the hallway, total bullshit.

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KBonay's picture

Do you have any eligibility left?  Asking for a friend...

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hthe620110's picture

Yes, this is my last year as I am in Graduate School, but I am also 42 and out of shape, but I sure do wish I could have played after I graduate high school, it would have been fun.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

The offer to Cullen Coleman was clarified by Gleitman that it's for LB even though he plays a lot of RB for his team too. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I want faster linebackers. Cullen Coleman and Tirek Austin-Cave have the kind of wheels I crave. I feel the need...the need for speed.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

So much information it's almost hard to keep up with everything.

Go Bucks!

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WoullyBear's picture

I've noticed a lot of our OL offers are kids that are in the 260-280 range rather than the traditional 290-310 range, is this a product of the change in system? Maybe looking for more athleticism than size?

If Ann Arbor is a whore, what's Harbaugh for going back to her?

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logamaniac's picture

I think if there were more kids in the 290-310 range in high school that could move swiftly and utilizing proper technique instead of merely using their size to make blocks in high school you'd see us offer more of them.  It's easier to add weight with proper training and bulking while retaining that movement than it is trying to make someone forget their bad habits.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

What Logamaniac said above is the approach we've taken since Urban started. But like he said above its all about adding good weight being more ideal when they arrive on campus than removing the bad weight. 

A good example of the need for leaner athletic guys is the college senior bowl this year had 1 OL guy above 300lbs if I recall correctly. Could be a product of the pass happy era we are in now.

Edit: should add the while most of these guys are 260-280 range now they still have a year to go and will inevitably add more weight before they hit campuses. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Or they're 16 years old and still growing?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Cooper's picture

I can’t remember the tweet but I read that the majority of Pro Bowl offensive linemen were around 240-250 in high school. It’s a lot easier to teach an athletic guy how to gain weight than to teach an immobile guy with size. Not everyone is blessed with the build and athleticism of Orlando Pace coming out of high school.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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logamaniac's picture

we should get 3 Orlando Paces a cycle, anything less would be uncivilized.

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Sanantonefan's picture

Who DVs this? +1

You Got Barbecue Back There!?!?!?!

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Per 247 high 4* DB Miles Brooks expects to be back on campus soon. No exact dates yet but speaks very highly of tOSU which is due to Wade, Tyreke, and Crowley being up here now. 

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Article/Ohio-State-Notre-Dame-t...

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Per 247, AZ RB Bijan Robinson is not visiting in March as previously reported by Tom Loy (not surprised). His coach said Alford has been by multiple times and Day made his first visit recently which he said was a big hit. Bijan's coach went on to say he's very impressed with Day and liked the message he had about tOSU. Said Bijan is trying to set visits up and is still figuring that out with family. 

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Article/Ryan-Day-Tony-Alford-be...

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Steps1110's picture

I'll take Drennen over Hubbard.  Love what he's able to do in the passing game.  Are we still recruiting Jutahn McClain?

Steps

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I hope so. I really like McClain’s game.

(Good to see you, Steps.)

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Per 247, we've offered 4* NJ DE Amin Vanover who is teammates with Luke Wypler. 

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Board/120/Contents/Buckeyes-off...

Wypler told Gleitman he's been working on Vanover for months. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Sounds like Wypler’s solid.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Hafley will play a major role with Luke since he's from the area and very well thought of. He was an elite recruiter before the NFL came calling so I'm expecting that to resume. Dude was bringing in 4* to Rutgers under Schiano before they were respectable. Ask any Rutgers fan who remembers but they'll likely tell you he saved Greg's bacon with his recruiting during that time period. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

@Spooner: any thoughts on a punter or PK?

This will be Drue Chrisman’s senior year and New Albany’s Michael O’Shaughnessy is committed but he’s expected to greyshirt, which presumably means he’ll either be a late addition to the 2019 class when a scholarship opens next January or an early enrollee in 2020’s class. 

Blake Heubiel will be a senior in 2020, which means we’ll need a placekicker. Jake Seibert, the #1 ranked PK in the 2020 class, kicks for Cincinnati La Salle, Chrisman’s alma mater.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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UrbzRenewal's picture

Birm has written a bit about Seibert and it sounds like if Ohio State offers him early enough, they'll get him.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Yeah I forgot to add one and that's my bad since they don't get much fanfare in recruiting. 

Normally I would just say insert any Aussie football guy here but Seibert is absolutely the guy I'm expecting to be in the class. My understanding is he wants to be a Buckeye and it's really about him kicking in front of the staff. Once that happens I think it's reasonable to expect things to move quickly. 

Edit: Urbz beat me to it but agree with him above. 

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

We have a kicker coming in that will greyshirt as well this year. Jack Deneher is considered one of the best in this year's class by Kohls kicking.

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buckslan's picture

Is Chrisman a senior? I thought he grayshirted in 2016 during Cam Johnstons senior season.

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George Hennen's picture

He's a redshirt jr in 2019. 

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David Wertheim's picture

It appears that two Cincinnati prospects- Darrion Henry and Jaheim Thomas- are visiting Ohio State today.

Here's a piece I wrote this morning on how the new coaching staff could be once again making Cincinnati a priority

Ohbucksclan20's picture

Hopefully they commit soon!!!

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Buckeye314's picture

Doesn’t appear Paris made the trip with them. He hasn’t mentioned it on Twitter. Can someone with knowledge confirm this one way or another?

Ohio State > *ichigan
Urban > Hairbaugh

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SuperAP3's picture

Paris DEFINITELY there today. Passed him at the basketball game talking to Stud

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

That's great news on both accounts

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SuperAP3's picture

ABSOLUTELY. There was a group together. Paris, Darrion, and Jaheim all at the basketball game today with staff members.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Yeah the 513 group is always visits together it seems. I'm hoping we offer Jaheim as an ATH. I don't think he's gonna be fast enough to be a Josh Perry type LB but I can picture him being a DE in the Tyquan Lewis mold. 

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

Excellent news!! Thanks for the update!!

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George Hennen's picture

Just watched Cullen Colemans film. It seems like he was used as more of a 3-4 OLB or basically an edge rusher. Any chance there looking to convert him to DE? Size wise he is sort of a tweener b/n a big LB or a small DE (like Sherman). He was also a solid RB and looks like he could play some H-back is Yurchich uses that hybrid "cowboy" back in this offense. Just curious if anyone knew where we were specifically recruiting him as or if he is an ATH for now. 

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George Hennen's picture

Yea that's what i thought. He does have good size and is very versatile. 

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CardaleFTW's picture

It's nice to see that this forum has gone back to civilized. We were in a rough period there for a while.

It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

No Hurry Up + sparse recruiting news = natives restless

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Throw the polar vortex and cabin fever in there, too.

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napbuck's picture

So this is kind of related to the 2021 and the 2020 classes, but if Sawyer and Story commit early like has been suggested does that have any impact on the kids we are chasing in the 2020 class for DE. To me if you have a kid that you are sold on you take them when they want to decide and don’t make them wait for kids above them 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

No the 2020 kids have every advantage in that scenario. They will have a year of experiencing the speed of the college level, living the college experience, knowledge of the defensive playbook, and a year in the S&C program. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

https://mobile.twitter.com/_tcave/status/1091757102241140737

Think it may be a matter of time before we offer NJ LB Tirek Austin-Cave.

Highlights: https://www.hudl.com/video/3/11581080/5bf8899da023880b00b814d3

Might be in the DLee mold. Always hesitate to use that but he had 162 tackles, 18 TFL's, 3 PD's, 1 FF, 1 sack last year. 

I'd be more than ok with a LB class of Austin-Cave and Coleman then add a Sherman or Smalls for the hybrid spot. Would be very surprised is Austin-Cave and Coleman are not 4*'s this time next year. 

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BengalErnst's picture

No way we have a shot with Smalls without Schiano and Urban tho right?

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Smalls has family in NE OH and Hartline is the one recruiting out there with Day so we def have a shot. How much of one I don't have a clue but the key will be getting an unofficial visit before the season starts. 

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napbuck's picture

Can we get Smalla and Sherman or is this a case of first come first serve, as I see them both in the same mold.

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BengalErnst's picture

We wouldn’t say no to either of them 

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David Wertheim's picture

Looks like Paris Johnson made the trip as well. 

Ohbucksclan20's picture

Perfect time for him to recruit. Btw David are you the new recruiting analyst?

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David Wertheim's picture

I am not the new recruiting analyst, just filling in this weekend.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I think Jeremiah Trotter, Jr. will need to get bigger. He’s listed at 6-1, which was his dad’s height, but he’s only 185 pounds. There’s still time for that. Meanwhile, Marvin Harrison, Jr. is already 4” taller than his father.

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stxbuck's picture

Is Trotter projected as a ILB, like his father, or as a DB?

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Here's a nice article about him from last August, at which time he was listed at 6-1/201. His father played at 6-1/265. Couple more years and another 20-30 pounds and he should be good to go. He sounds like a good kid from a great family. His father's a legend in Philadelphia but it doesn't sound like it's gone to his son's head. He just turned 16 in December.

“But my biggest thing is to let him play, (Jeremiah, Sr. said). All of that will come. You settle your business on the football field. He’s still 15, no matter how you cut it. He’s put in 37 pounds from last year until now. It’s not just me. Tammi [Trotter’s wife] without a doubt is a big of his life. We don’t spoil our kids. There is this quote I like from an old NFL player. ‘I gave my kids everything, because I loved them. Then I took it all back, because I loved them.’ That always stuck with me. It’s why I want my kids to enjoy the journey as much as the destination."

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

Was hoping for some commits today's.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Maybe holding off until after Wednesday?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

Possible but don't see how that would affect anything.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

It’s called the politics of dancing—there’s a time and a place for everything and it’s all up to whoever’s calling the shots.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

It doesn't affect other programs though. You may be right though, just wouldn't make sense is all.

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bucknut8's picture

Since Day has taken over as HC, he has got Zach Harrison (#1 kid in OH for 2019 & OSUs 13th best recruit of all time) to commit, got Paris Johnson Jr (#1 kid in OH for 2020 & OSUs 4th best recruit of all time) to pretty much re-affirm his commitment to OSU, and got Jack Sawyer (#1 kid in OH for 2021 & OSUs 3rd best recruit of all time) to commit within 2-3 months span. Safe to say Day knows how to lockdown the state of Ohio!!!! 

#Buckeyes

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THEGAME513's picture

Sprinkle in a lil Justin Fields as the highest rated prospect ever, not to mention the highest rated recruit in school history and I don't think you could have had Hollywood write a better script.
#buckeyestrong

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Per 247, among players who started their college careers at Ohio State, Sawyer is currently tied with Ted Ginn as OSU's second highest-rated recruit (.9992). Only Terrelle Pryor (.9997) was rated higher. 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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THEGAME513's picture

Excellent insight

Veni, Vidi, Vici. I came, I saw, I conquered.
The Buckeye Way

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bd2999's picture

I am more concerned about getting guys from all over. OSU has a fair number of good players in 2020 and 2021, particularly the later. I hope he turns on the juice for the OL in 2020 in particular.

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Spartan13's picture

Turner Corcoran visited Nebraska this weekend, they are the biggest threat for the top 100 OT

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bd2999's picture

For sure need to get some talent at that position.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Buckeyes make top 12 for CA DB Clark Phillips III. 

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Board/120/Contents/Buckeye-DB-t...

Biggins goes on to say that while it's a top 12 he believes we are definitely in his top 5.

Bodes well with an expected visit in the spring with family. Think this could be a Hafley special. 

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George Hennen's picture

I hope Johnson, James, Wypler and the other 2020 OL targets aren’t big Stud guys. Does anyone know how studs relationship with these recruits are? 

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Northbrook's picture

Nope but if you make a change early enough and to a great OL coach and recruiter then I don't see a problem regardless.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Presumably, most of these kids will be signed before Ohio State plays its bowl game, which means Studrawa will still be Ohio State's OL coach and his future could still be TBD. Four new starters this year--if the OL with 80% news starters excels ala 2014's, the better the odds he will be retained.

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Northbrook's picture

I expect he will be our OL coach this season. Beyond that depends on the OL performance and how recruiting goes. If the players performance is poor it will impact recruiting so the early signing day might be disappointing.

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216ToThe614's picture

Any speculation on the top 2020 target who AE believes will be publicly hopping on board soon? Jarrett? Sherman? Flemming? Henry?

Pick up your feet, turn your corners square! And DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!!
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buckslan's picture

Where did he hint at that?

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

2019 thread. Purely guessing but maybe Darrion Henry. I usually try to go off fairly recent visit history and I got nothing other than him. 

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bd2999's picture

My guess would probably be Henry or possibly Jarrett. Flemming or Sherman would be shocks.

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

I think it is drennen.

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NorthCoastBias's picture

Looks like Wiltfong put in a Crystal Ball prediction of Clemson for Brian Bresee today.

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LB U's picture

I read AE (i'm pretty sure it was him) say somewhere on here that we're in 4th or 5th place for him right now.

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swflbuckeye1's picture

I thought I read a while back that as long as we keep Larry Johnson we would have as good as chance as any team in getting him. The kid loves LJ. 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Well, you know the old saying: Being 4th or 5th just means you aren't in his top 3. Certainly can't argue with the logic of that...

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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LB U's picture

3 things you can count on from Clemson every recruiting cycle - Elite DLinemen, Elite WR's, and an Elite QB. It's like a broken record. I'm numb to it at this point.

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

His recruitment is likely to go the distance. So far Steve's CB'd or called him to PSU, Clemson, and Georgia. 

Steve may want to just wait till Bresee announces a commitment date before putting in his next CB. 

Either way not worried nor was I ever expecting him in the class. Will always take the field over any one school there. 

On a positive note we have Harrison, Henry, and Sawyer in back to back to back classes. That's 2 5*'s and likely a third later on once Henry dominates the offseason like I expect him to. There's also the fact Darrion and Bresee are essentially the same prospect (Henry more athletic and Bresee stronger right now) who play the same position. BG said yesterday that Henry is already in the class and is just waiting to announce it. 

The other 3 important DL kids to me are Smalls, Sherman, and Desmond Evans who not many know about yet but will. Smalls and Sherman can be Parsons type OLB or Spence type DE while Evans was cooked up in a lab somewhere. Here's Evans tape if you haven't seen it: https://www.hudl.com/video/3/7907757/5b992477578d1b0ce4ddd68c

However with all that said on the DL the 3 most important recruits next cycle are Paris Johnson, Wypler, and Jack Miller hands down. 

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NHBuckeye's picture

What's happened with Clowney?  I thought he was pretty high on OSU?  

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

There's not been many updates on 2020 guys the last few months. Last I read he was still interested but I'm not sure we've offered so unless that happens might not be much to talk about. 

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NHBuckeye's picture

Gotcha.  thanks.

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Moneymike's picture

Well wiltfong has said many times he doesn't do projection picks. He likes to move his cb to show where the player is leaning

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Ok and I still maintain that if he didn't get to make a dozen different CB picks his % wouldn't be nearly what it has been. But that's not what sells subscriptions. It's a hell of a business model I'll give them that. 

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Moneymike's picture

His info is better than anyone else so I dont get what your problem is with him

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

He's not better than Brandon Huffman and he does get his info from other sites at times but he'll never admit to it. 

He's the poster boy for page clicks as his multiple CB's per prospect reflect as much. That's not being some savant at predicting that's following the company line and process of elimination. 

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

I said the other day Wiltfong is not that great. I agree with you completely.

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Spartan13's picture

Didn't even want him anyways with how much he is looking around it proves he will transfer if he doesn't start immeadiatly!!!! 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Yeah, OK. Because you know what's in a person's heart.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Spartan13's picture

This was sarcastic and meant to mirror comments about Doug Nester

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iowabuckeyes's picture

You gotta use italics or /s, man.

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VirginiaBuckeye14's picture

Yeah you gotta realize that there are some people here who would actually say that and mean it lol... 

Can they catch him? No they can't, touchdown.

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osu992's picture

I knew that, but I also thought "eh...gotta leave the tactical sarcasm to the professional; also-ran mocking back-fires."

New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Obligatory any time someone miscalculates:

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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tekk69's picture

Does Bryan Breese = this year's Darnell Wright?

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Spanky3000's picture

Unfortunately I think Breese is headed elsewhere. Ohio State really needs to start focusing more attention on recruiting Maryland. Maryland is a Big Ten state loaded with talent but a lot of the top players there are going to Alabama, Clemson, etc

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iowabuckeyes's picture

With Locksley at UMD, we can expect a lot more DMV kids to stay home.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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stxbuck's picture

If that screws over Bama and PSU, I'm cool with it!

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

OSU has done a good job in the DMV and continues to recruit it but its an open area and no single school can really have a monopoly there. Haskins success should help there and Taron Vincent is a MD kid (via IMG), as is Shaw (same school as Haskins). Keondre Jones was a big get too at the time. We were close with Rasheed Walker last cycle and Teradja Mitchell in VA was a big pickup from that region. Gotta hope things go well with Jarrett and Sherman in DC for 2020.

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Nate4bucks's picture

Don’t forget about Chase Young. I believe he’s also from MD.

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Yup missed that one and he was obviously one of the bigger recruiting gets of the past few years.

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bd2999's picture

OSU has generally done well in Maryland. I am not sure why possibly missing out on a guy from any given state would matter that much. He would be a big get if they could get him. But OSU has done well in Maryland in recent years of getting the guys that they want.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Feel like 2020 is going to have an Ohio heavy presence as a sign of goodwill from Day to the state's coaches. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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UrbzRenewal's picture

The state is also pretty loaded (compared to previous years) which makes that about bit easier

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

It helps that the next two Ohio classes are two of the strongest we've seen in a while, too. Especially at OL. 

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

Agree the 2020 and 2021 classes will be loaded with Ohio players. I believe the percentage will be close to 65% of Ohio players in the next two classes if not higher.

Go Bucks!

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Man, that's a massive push, a strategic departure from the recruiting philosophy that elevated the program to being a permanent fixture on the national stage. 65% of a 25-man class is 16 recruits. We haven't seen classes like that since Tressel and i don't expect to see them now.

I've always believed that a state as populous as Ohio should be able to fuel a quality OL but we're going to need to go OOS for most of our skill players. Speedsters like Parris Campbells don't grow on trees in Ohio but they're a bumper crop in Texas, Florida and Georgia. I'm hoping we'll see more Ohioans but it'll be more like 10 in a 25-man class, not the other way around.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

During tressel era though the Ohio class was never this loaded as the 2020 and 2021 classes are. It might be high, but the classes will have an Ohio flavor to them.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

We wont be taking 16+ Ohio recruits for 2020 and 2021. We might take most of our linemen from home but to get the WRs and DBs we need to compete in the CFP we absolutely have to go out of state. A more realistic number of Ohio kids is 8-10 IF they are elite. Last thing we want is another Danny Clark situation. That bit Urban in the ass more with Ohio HS coaches than us not taking as many Ohio recruits.

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LB U's picture

Totally agree, Iowa.. that's not a good strategy unless we want to completely give up on competing for national championships.

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

2014 was mostly ohio recruits.

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Triv's picture

Class of 2014 was 9/23 from Ohio, and was Urban's 2nd worst class at Ohio State in terms of average rating per recruit

His worst class, the class of 2015, was 12/26 Ohio kids.

In other words, 65% Ohio kids is almost assuredly NOT going to happen. There will be a much higher number of Ohio kids than recent years, but I'll be shocked if it passes 50%, let alone 65

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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Ludwig Yards's picture

I'd say it's fairly unlikely that we'll see any classes with 50% or more Ohio kids, going forward. Those days have passed, IMO. 

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keith7456's picture

Id say it would be pushing it(not in a good way) to sign more than 8-10 from Ohio in a single class.

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

8-10 kids a class from Ohio when numbers dictate would be ok for me. Think then you have an average of at least 15 from out of state. 

But get the best players no matter where they are from. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Ahh Saturday's picture

The programs that have appeared in the CFP the most, Alabama, Clemson, OSU, and Oklahoma, all get the majority of their recruits from out of state. And if they wish to continue appearing in the CFP they will continue to recruit across the country. Period. The one program closest to entering this elite group is Georgia, one of the most talent-rich states in the country. Where did UGA get their recruits this past season? According to 247, only six of their 2nd ranked class came from Georgia. The rest came from out of state. 

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huffdaddy's picture

That's a scary stat on Georgia. They can clean up their home turf at will, and if they are going fully national too... I was hoping Smart was a one hit wonder but I think they are going to be a top 5 program for the next 5-10 years.

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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KBonay's picture

This is my personal hot take*.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Kirby Smart has a bit of Napoleon complex from being under Saban.  I think he's out to prove something.  That said, he's willing to do whatever it takes to win.  Now.  And these last couple of losses have stung.  So he's become more aggressive.  All the rumors of paying players, dirty recruiting, ect.  It's going to catch up to that program.  That's why he went out of his way to push 'Kirby's Law' - a way to delay response to open record requests to up to 90 days. Somethings cooking in Athens.  And it stinks.....

* I am not your typical conspiracy theorist that thinks everyone but us is cheating.  Just a feeling I get when I look at that particular program.

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George Hennen's picture

Yea something fishy is going on in Ga. 

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stxbuck's picture

Georgia-like Bama and every other SEC team-recruits regionally across the South. The Dawgs got 3 stud DL from Tennessee this past class, and the best LBs in Florida and Mississippi, along w/ 2 of the top players in Alabama. Every SEC recruits on some variation of this strategy-they stay in the South for the most part. Big difference between a Louisiana kid going to Bama or a Florida kid going to Auburn, and a Cali kid going to tOSU or whatever. SEC state(s) next door is NOT "recruiting across the country" consistently.

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Calgarybuck's picture

Wild how they took 2 5* from AL though.  Bama and Auburn got outbid apparently.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I agree with this although I'd say Kentucky has been an outlier lately. Joker Phillips tried to build a roster based on players from the South but Stoops and Marrow wisely went a different route. Including walk-ons, Joker's last Wildcat squad had 32 players from Kentucky, seven from Ohio, and 67 from the other SEC states. On this year's roster, 27 were from Kentucky, 26 from Ohio, and 41 from all the other SEC states. It's a shift in strategy that's served Stoops and Marrow well but they moved away from it with this year's class--only three of their 22 signees are from Ohio (and one, 4-star DB Moses Douglass, is a legacy, and another is his HS teammate).

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BumJuiceIsBitter's picture

FSU insider Josh Newberg CB'ed Fred Davis to OSU.

I tried bum juice once, it was bitterly disappointing.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

And is Hartline leading his recruitment or Hafley?

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Hafley with assists from Alford and Hartline who recruit Florida would be my guess. 

But I'm not worried about Hafley and his recruiting and I'm beyond excited to watch our DB's development this year. Hafley stating he promises our DB's will play the ball and not have their backs turned was music to my ears. 

I'm thinking we could very well grab high 4* teammate Miles Brooks too. 

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Got to imagine the chance at early playing time for the next couple of classes is going to be a selling point with the whiff in this year's class.  

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

It's definitely not gonna hurt. I guess the silver lining to not bringing in a true CB in the 2019 class is the fact that 2020 is a loaded DB class. 

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VirginiaBuckeye14's picture

My confidence in Hafley grew exponentially after his interview yesterday. Just seeing how personable he is assures me that he'll kill it with recruiting and developing relationships with players. 

Can they catch him? No they can't, touchdown.

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Agree completely.  If the big picture plan is for Mattison to be a stop gap for a year or 2 before turning things over solely to Hafley, I can't wait.  Dude has a charisma that makes me think he's going to be a HC very soon.  Hopefully we get him for more than a couple years in Columbus.  

You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton

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Ludwig Yards's picture

Hopefully it happens....gonna need to hit some home runs at the corner spot in the 2020 class. 

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

Would be a monster get. Trinity Christian has been good to us. 

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George Hennen's picture

I got us getting Davis, Brooks, Gray at corner. Mickens at Saf and proabably one more. Maybe an OH guy like Sammy Anderson. 

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Triv's picture

Need at least 4 corners this cycle. There's a non-zero percent chance that we have 4 scholarship corners going into 2020 if Okudah and Wade both leave

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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Buckeye06's picture

I mean we live in the age of transfers, so we absolutely could have 2 grad transfers come in or just 2 transfers who aren't sitting out.  Seems we are almost in a free agency game 

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Spartan13's picture

Trinity Christian has Free Davis, Miles Brooks, and Dwight Mcglotherin at corner do they currently rotate the way we do or does one of them play safety? Could we nab all three? We already have Shaun Wade, Tyreke Johnson, and Marcus Crowley form there. 

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

McGlotherin is Trinity Christian School in TX.
Brooks and Davis is Trinity Christian Academy in FL

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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BengalErnst's picture

You sure Dwight is from there? Thought he was from Texas?

Nicholas l Ernst

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Biennial Field Rusher's picture

I’m assuming Dwight Mcglothern will make a top 5-15 announcement, with the Buckeyes surely being one of the teams. While both Mcglothern and Davis go to a Trinity Christian school, Davis’ school is in Jacksonville, FL and Mcglothern’s is in Cedar Hill, TX. 

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

Probably announcing where he is eating dinner. 

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

They have Whataburger down there. I'd put my money on that.

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keith7456's picture

Announcing when he is gonna announce that he is going to announce his announcement for his top 25 choices.

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Biennial Field Rusher's picture

He committed to the Army All American game lol 

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SpaceBuckeye's picture

Just my thoughts:
I don't know why but it absolutely annoys the shit out if me when they "commit" to play in these games. I would personally say something along the lines of:
I have accepted an invitation to play in the (insert game here).

Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?

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buckeyefan67's picture

Next thing ya know these recruits will announce the time of their morning constitutional.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Wasn't that why Twitter was invented?

P.S. I'm serious.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Correct. Well that and food selfies in no particular order 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

In one end and out the other. The cycle of life.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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laishley15's picture

Would be huge to land Fred Davis II.  The depth at CB could be a major issue if Okudah has a breakout year and leaves early.

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BurningRiverBuckeye's picture

I'd assume there's about an 80% chance this is his last year in S&G

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HOLYbucknut's picture

I’m gonna smash the over on that one. He gone after this season. We really need to grab a haul like the one we had with him and Wade in the same class or better.

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George Hennen's picture

Since the 2019 class is officially over with I'll go ahead and give my class predictions for this class. 

QB- Jack Miller, Evan Prater 

RB- Kendall Milton!!!, Jalen Berger, Mike Drennen (APB/potential H-B)

-Feel like we will land 1 of Milton, Sam Adams, or Bijan Robinson as our primary back. Berger could be brought in as an ATH. Maybe a SS or grow into LB. We will get one of Drennen or Jutahn Mcclain. I'll go with Drennen since Mcclain seems to like scUM and has a teammate there. 

WR- Gee Scott, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Rakim Jarrett, Julian Fleming

-Day and Hartline will do their work here. Nuff said. 

TE- DJ Rogers, Theo Johnson (Ontario) 

-Think we get 2 TEs with different skillsets. Berry will be gone. Hausman will probably transfer by then. No guanrentee Farrell will be on the team in 2020. Ruckert and Hamilton are the only sure-fire bets. Rogers fits the Okla St "cowboy" back role that yurchich might use. More of an H-back TE + he's teammates with Gee Scott. Johnson is a PSU lean but i think we could land him if we tried. He's a high upside prospect. 

OL- Paris Johnson (T), Luke Wypler (C/G), Jakob James (G), Reece Attebery (G), Anton Harrison (RT)

DT- Darrion Henry (3t), Aidan Keanaaina (1t)

-Sucks losing out on Tre Williams because there aren't many true 1 techs out there that are high on us. I think we can land Keanaaina if we try but its going to be a battle. Maybe bring in Middlebrook as a project guy. The only DT's that I'm confident will be on the roster are Garrett, Vincent, Togiai, and Mckenzie. Landers, and Hamilton will be gone. No guarentee guys like Cage and Antwan Jackson will be here by 2020 either. 

DE- Mehkhail Sherman, Desmond Evans

D-end won't be a big need for this class with Tyreke Smith, Friday, Alex Williams, Jean-Baptiste, ZH, and Potter around for the next few years. Stover could even end up here as well. I think Evans will end up being a battle with Clemson. 

LB-  Deamonte Trayanum (ILB), Bangally Kamara (OLB). 

Lb wont be a big need for this class. Have a feeling Trayanyum could go elsewhere like the other Hoban guys (Clark, Sibley, Rumler) but for now I have him in this class. Reminds me of Devin Bush. Kamara is a project type guy. Is currently listed at Saf but i think he could grow into an OLB. 

CB- Fred Davis, Miles Brooks, Henry Gray, Sammy Anderson 

S- RJ Mickens

K- Jake Seibert

Yes i know that's over 25. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Not sold on Prater yet. Need to see more. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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George Hennen's picture

I think he could be a good 2nd option depth guy. Other guys like Riley Keller, Deametric Crenshaw, maybe Jalen Suggs  but he'll likely stick with basketball. 

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NHBuckeye's picture

Good list.  I think I it was mentioned that Berger might be looked at for the defensive side of the ball.   If not, I worry that we won’t get both Berger and Drennen. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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SirRyanDay's picture

That would be an awesome class! FWIW, that would come out to a score of 327.10. Alabama's class this year ended up at 317.5.

Really hope we will be able snag Justin Rogers too. Unfortunately, looks like he is a Georgia lean with a CB from Wiltfong to the Bulldogs. 

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Keanaaina announces next week I believe. Unless something happens or he pushes that out it looks like ND will win that one. 

Kinda hoping our DT recruiting speeds up here bc you can't keep taking the Jaden McKenzie's of the world every year. You need to take guys that are top 10 at the position who have us top 2 or 3 even if you don't like their body type. 

Keanaaina is a kid we should not lose especially with Alford knowing his dad for 20 years. But I don't get the sense we made him a priority. 

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George Hennen's picture

That really sucks if true. Not that many true DTs that are high on us except for lower rated guys like Dane Middlebrook. Remember hearing a while back Bama commit Jayson Jones had interest in us. Not sure if thats still the case. Coziah Izzard, Alex Huntley, Cole Brevard, Lamar Goods (Alberta), Denver Warren, Jordan Butler,, Abraham Alabi (Pickerington) are some names that could come into play. There are a few other lower rated regional guys we could land if we wanted. 

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stxbuck's picture

"can't keep taking the Jaden McKenzies of the world"-I wonder if you would have the stones to say this kind of crap to Robert Landers face.

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Moneymike's picture

Also agree with this McKenzie was seriously underrated and was choosing between Clemson and Ohio state. Doesn't seem like a plan c type of player

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

McKenzie was underrated and he did technically have an offer from Clemson but I thought at his ceremony he was down to OSU and UNC. 

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Moneymike's picture

Clemson was pushing hard to get him but he was already set on Ohio state

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Beantown_Buckeye's picture

Always a positive sign when another top 5 school wants the same guy.

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silverbullet71's picture

Spooner youre the biggest hypocrit on this page. Someone else were to say this, you would be smashing the downvote button and talking shit. Btw I gave you a down vote princess

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SpoonerBuck33's picture

Cool now I don't have enough to upvotes to pay my mortgage this month. What the hell am I supposed to do??!!

It's also spelled hypocrite btw ;-)

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

Three things
1 I don't think we will get both Fleming and jarret, probably one but not both. My guess is jarret is a Buckeye.
2. why don't you think tryanaum will be a Buckeye. All indications suggest he will be? Is this your opinion or did you read some where he might not be a take?
3. Why dont you think farrel will be on the team in 2020? You think he will enter the draft or transfer?

Go Bucks!

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George Hennen's picture

1. I think Day and Hartline are capable of landing both. 

2. He wants to play RB, but he probably won't be playing that if he picks Ohio St. The staff has made him aware of this. Plus Michigan and Clemson are going after him and open to him playing RB. 

3. No idea about Farrell. I think he will be a redshirt Sr in 2020 but its possible he could leave after his 4th year or get passed up by Ruckert and grad transfer. 

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

Is Anyone visiting this weekend? I am still waiting on the commitment that Andrew was hinting at earlier this week? I know I am impatient. Still think it's drennen.

Go Bucks!

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stxbuck's picture

The Canes site seemed to think that tOSU is the early leader for Fred Davis, the Top 10 DB from Trinity Christian in Jacksonville. They are a bit more cogent in their predictions than other outlets,imo.

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Buck my Nuts's picture

I haven’t posted on here in a long time simply because I hardly have info to pass along.

With that said, I spoke to Hobans head coach yesterday at the coaching clinic and he says that Trayanum will either be a Buckeye or Badger.  Wouldn’t be surprised either way.

Samson Simpson

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

Did you ask Hoban's coach if Ryan Day has done anything to mend fences with him and other Ohio HS coaches?

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

It seems Wiltfong put in a cb for Fred Davis to tosu!

Go Bucks!

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Ohbucksclan20's picture

I thought cloudy was the Miami insider? Could have been wrong.

Go Bucks!

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NHBuckeye's picture

Nice pullover Kelee. 

Fields of Dreams

 

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KBonay's picture

Per 247- The Opening Combine in LA

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