Best of luck! Next man up!
Best of luck, indeed. I still remember that glorious day that both he & Dwayne Haskins transferred from Maryland to the good guys. Times flies.
Is he eligible? Not sure he graduated and if he’s already enrolled and taking classes he may redshirt of file waiver.
Jones wasn’t listed in the athletic department’s autumn commencement press release, so he’s not a graduate. I’m betting he will pursue some sort of waiver to avoid sitting out 2019.
Is not starting now a hardship?
Probably depends on who you are.
Good luck, Keandre. I hope you have success at Maryland.
agreed. and i think he'll have success. i'd like to have seen him have a better chance to show something on the field. i'm not sold on werner or borland.
Agreed, Werner and Borland are NOT OSU caliber LBs, good guys, good football players, not OSU LBs.
"I don't want to be around average, why be around average!" -UFM
Here's the thing, if he was better than either, wouldn't he have been playing? Maybe he has the energy and athleticism, but can't read a play? There has to be some reason he's still playing backup. Either way, here's to hoping he excels in the future.
You would think, but that isn't how it worked out with Brendan White at safety. And by all means, I hope it goes well for him at Maryland.
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Didn't work that way for Haskins either
Didn't work that way for Haskins either
It comes down to... who decides whom should be playing? Ultimately, it comes down to the coach. I won't delve into whether it's the position coach or the head coach or some combination. Sometimes, it's a fine line (e.g. Haskins versus Burrow) as to who should start. It will be interesting to follow his progress. If he is successful, it will certainly open up discussion on the ability of a certain ex-LB coach regarding his ability to make the best decision on who should have started and the coaches' ability to develop his players. There is probably no absolute right or wrong, but it will be fun to discuss what should/could have been!
Please god let the switch in browning and Mitchell flip and make them what we expected them to be when they signed.
I think Al Washington as LBs Coach instead of Bill Davis will help those two out tremendously.
logged in to upvote. I'm looking forward to our 2019 defense!
Sure as hell can't get any worse
i don't think it's on the young guys - they haven't had any decent coaching since they've been there. i think washington is a great upgrade over bill dufus
All the coaching in the world won't make Borland fast or Werner not bounce off ball carriers....Please Al, shake up that LB group and find 3 studs.
Ah, much better than the earlier 3 word post. Good Luck young man!
PS See you November 17! :)
Good luck to him! Makes me wish we could have two teams!
New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.
Thought this was the route once I saw he was in the portal.
Sucks because I think he could start over a current starter
This ^^^^ Buckeye Pat Nailed this one. Kid should have had much more playing time here. Hate to see him go. Good luck KJ
BP - how many practices do you get to see, because we surely haven’t seen hi in games? Amazing to me how much smarter we fans are than some highly paid coaches...
Too be fair, Urban used the term "effort" and "team player" too much. Borland and Werner were those guys. He showed loyalty to guys when better options were available. I get Borland has experience but it looked like he lost a step after the injury. Jones had speed at LB and made plays when he saw the field. He was named ST player of the week multiple times and saw no PT. I'd take the guy with speed covering Rondale Moore over Werner.
Additionally Jones was behind Harrison, our best LB last year and they should have attempted a switch to the other side to compete with Werner. I know coming in Jones was only about 210-215lbs and he needed to add some muscle to play LB but maybe the switch from Fickell to Davis stunted his growth on the field.
Stop it lmao. 99% of these forums comments are fans assuming things they MAY not know. We go off what we think and opinion. And my OPINION is Jones was 10 times the athlete Werner was.
Have a great day
So that would mean Jones runs a 3.9-second 40 and can benchpress a car? My God, why didnt we start this guy??????????
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I know you’re being sarcastic to make a point, but based on the poor performance of the starting LBs, I think it legit begs the question of why other guys were not given sustained opportunities. The obvious example is how Brendon White sat the bench all season only to come in by sheer alignment of abnormal circumstances, and show immediately that he should have been playing all year. We don’t know what Jones could have done bc he was never given a chance. Given that the D coaching staff from last year is all gone now (LJ aside), I get the feeling Day didn’t much care for their decisions either.
even bill davis said that schiano’s defense was extremely complex for college players. Let’s see what less complexity and a new position coach can do for the position group. Also, with a new scheme and new position coach, every guy should regard it as a great opportunity to show what he’s got. Obviously K Jones still didn’t see that as an opportunity - OR was following Locksley to MD which he was prepared to do three years ago.
"but never started a game in his three seasons with the Buckeyes,"
Could he have been worse than what we saw this year from that group?
"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes
Very good chance the answer to this questions is "No"
Too bad, bummer to hear. I was hoping this past season would be the one where Keandre broke into the starting lineup. Best of luck to him.
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Best wishes to Keandre. I wish he could have had a productive career at Ohio State, but that was not in the cards.
Good luck to him! Can't blame him for going home.
You watch, he’ll have a 15 tackle, 5 for a loss and a couple of strip sacks on Justin Fields....
THANKS BILLY DAVIS!!!!!!!
Seriously best of luck Keandre
Well, Columbus wasn't looking for America, my man, but that turned out to be pretty okay for everyone.
Is there any doubt that he'll have his best game against us? I'll give him the 15 tackles... but please no strip sacks!
I'm rather hoping that he tweeks his ankle the week before the Ohio State game and has to sit it out. Nothing too serious, just sitting out one game as a precaution!
I hope he enjoyed his time at Ohio State. He was originally committed to Maryland, so I'm hoping he got value out of being here for 3 years - being around supreme athletes. I had high hopes for Keandre.
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Can't say enough in support of this comment. All accounts I read said he was an absolute beast in workouts and weightroom, and a guy that was always positive and focused in the locker room. His presence will be missed, but my hope is that he balls out hard for the twerps and the few years of not getting hit as much as some of the other guys will make him fresh to catch on somewhere and have at least 3-5 years in the league. Once a Buckeye, Always a Buckeye. Don't care what the diploma says.
Credit to Bucky Baller for putting it out there, even if it was only 3 words.
Best of luck Keandre! Really wish we could have saw more of him on the field for the Bucks.
Just posting and hoping my comment isn’t deleted.
"Not as productive as" rather than "worse than " because of how he did in practice??
Good luck to the home boy.
Keandre is too good to sit on the bench and not get a shot at the NFL. Hate to see him go to a division foe, at least they didn't get Hurts.
Yep, no ill will... wishing KJ well in his return home.
The only ill will I have in this situation is that he never really got a chance to prove himself, despite the god awful LB play this season. Almost wish there was an additional BS targeting call to give him the same shot Brendan White got in the secondary.
Figured that is where he was going. I really wanted to see him get more of a chance here, I thought he deserved it. But best of luck at Maryland.
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You mean we didn't try to block him from going there!?!?!?
Seriously. How often do you see a kid transfer within the conference, let alone within the division. Good luck, Keandre.
Hmmm... may have been the "Brendon White" of the LB corps if given a chance.
I'd have enjoyed the press conference when Bill Davis did his best Alex Grinch impression... "yes he just happened to have his best week of practice before the game I was forced to let him play in. He definitely wasn't ready before today!"
Thanks Billy and Urban for playing your favorites instead of giving the rest a decent chance to play.
You said it for me and a ton of others who don't want to admit that Davis was a factor (which in turn means UFM was to a fault). +1 for you, sir!
It is time!!!!!
Urban was more guilty of hiring his favorites in a few circumstances. I don't think he had much control or knowledge of the linebackers
this makes me sick. kid could be elite with instruction and opportunity.
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Who on the roster couldn’t be elite? Maybe you could use your see-into-future skills to tell us?
non-linemen whom i could beat in a 40-yard dash. at least one of whom was ahead of jones on the depth chart.
winner for most ridiculous take on the board today. You really think you could beat Werner (a converted safety) or Borland in a 40? GTFO...
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i ran a 4.8, so, in a word, yes
How long ago?
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Werner is actually fairly athletic and fast, but he isn’t the best tackler and does a poor job taking on and shedding blocks. Outside of Moore, he covered some slots pretty well. I’d bet he runs better than a 4.8. No arguments about Borland though. His speed is a liability outside of the tackles.
just to clarify, i have no doubt werner would run far faster than a 4.8.
and, about 10 years ago. i could still probably hit sub-5 but my quads would pop out of my hips afterward.
I really would have liked to have seen more of Keandre in the rotation. I think that 2 out of the 3 starters from last year's squad were definite liabilities and thought that Keandre should've been given more opportunities at Ohio State. Best of luck at Maryland.
This sucks! IMHO he was by far better than Borland and Werner. Still wondering why he was regulated to only special teams. Jones was better than both those guys...
Good luck KJ! Sad to see you go.
Thanks Bill Davis!
Only one problem Locksley can’t coach.
Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP
Sad to see him go. Unrealized potential. Best of everything young man. Many of us wish you the best. When we were so deficient at that position last year he didn't get a fair shot. Favoritism can be very ugly and unfair. Thank God for the overdue changes.
Best man, huh... Never saw the best part.
Kid had great HS film/was very well coached in HS. That said, I'd love to hear the basis of all the opinions in this thread that he will become "elite" other than "Bill Davis sucks, it's obvious!!!!".
Wish he would’ve let Al Washington coach him, who knows though, maybe Washington already talked to him. Oh well, I wish him well regardless.
But WHY would Al Washington make a difference-other than "He's not Bill Davis"I don't care if people think this, just justify opinion with some credible observations-.
Linebacker play was just poor during Davis's 2 seasons. Our linebackers didn't seem to read & react to plays well under Davis compared to how they looked under Fickell. Obviously I think Schiano's scheme played a part in that, but I still felt, especially this past season, that our linebackers (besides Harrison) frequently made bad reads.
I think the majority of the fanbase, including myself, thinks that Washington will do a better job teaching that aspect of the game. I assume Mattison will play a part in coaching the linebackers during practice as well, and he's definitely coached some good linebacker units.
That's my justification on why I feel the coaching change will make a difference. I think a lot of others just have the belief that the linebacker play can't possibly be worse this coming season, and that's probably true to some extent
Mostly because it’s hard to imagine a coach taking so many blue chip receruits and making them look below average. To put it shortly, it would be difficult to do worse than Davis.
This breaks my heart for many reasons. I will be rooting for Keandre.
"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."
Good luck Keandre except for one game each season.
Nothing cleanses the soul like a no call pass interference.
Once a Buckeye, always a Buckeye....unless he has a game-winning Int or FF against us.
This is a relatively new, but risky, strategy by Maryland to get three years of strength training and development under Mickey's tutelage, without footing the bill for the Mickey or the scholarship. Well played Maryland, well played.
Best of luck to Keandre.
Good insight, Arch.
So sit out a year, right?
Is he a graduate transfer, or will he have to sit a year? Or maybe there are extenuating circumstances?
I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.
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Thanks for the dance Keandre...wishing you nothing but the best...see you on Game Day...Go Bucks
Urban + Davis = Borland and Werner
It will be interesting to see how he fits in at Maryland. They return a pair of two-year starters in Brooks and Davis. I suspect they’ll look to Jones to replace Tre Watson, himself a grad transfer (Illinois) who was 2nd team All-BIG.
That said, LB coach Matt Barnes is now in Columbus and MD hasn’t filled the slot.
Right back like we he never left
Too bad. When he got into games in a mop-up role, he looked like a promising athlete who was just waiting his turn like so many have before him, but he seemed to play even less this season than in 2017 even though you'd think we'd be trying anything and everything to fix our LB issues.
I'm always going to wonder if it was just a case of him getting into the doghouse with a particular coach.
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That's a boom for Maryland. It sucks losing a leader and potential starter to a team in your division. Best of luck to him except when he plays the Buckeyes. Extra luck to him when he plays the wolverats and PSU.
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best of luck Keandre!
15-1 is SWEET!
Ball out KJ.
“Being average means you are as close to the bottom as you are to the top.” John Wooden
Watch KJ ball out at Maryland, he could of done that here but seeing we had sub par LB coaching he never got the chance.
Fate can be cruel. Haskins and Jones flip to OSU. Haskins ends up under Day and Jones, Davis. Keep pressing on Keandre.
The soldier is my son. The school I gone to didn’t teach much grammar.
Sad to see him go.
I get that he's from Maryland, but it doesn't make sense past that. He'll be facing his former team and probably losing badly.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
Good luck young man and thank you for all you did both on the field and off!
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Good luck to him, except when the turtles play the Buckeyes.
Beat Michigan! Beat PSU! Beat MSU!
Borland is slower than our offensive lineman
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Good luck to Mr.Jones. except when he plays against Ohio State.
I hate to see a player with this much talent leave the team. IMO he deserved to start all of last year and should have, he is way more athletic and faster than Werner and Borland. I absolutely wish him the best though.
I pray that our LB play will be back to the silver bullet standard this season.
As long as "Twinkle" tuf borland and "Pathetic Play" pete werner don't get the start over the more talented, athletic, higher ranked recruits of ours we should be fine.
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