Miam is a LOOOOOONG way from being relevant. They get the benefit of playing in a horrible conference, but even still, they'd have to win the conference (beat Clemson of course) to get into the playoff. I doubt that happens, but hey I love the imagination.
They're not as far off as you think. The 2017 season had them as a top 10 team with an outstanding defense (remember Turnover Chain). However, their offense was wildy inconsistent with Kaaya leading the charge, so they were beat by teams who could get more than 6 first downs. With Tate being added, along with multiple offensive weapons, they could certainly make a run.
"Go out there, make plays, they'll remember your name forever. FOREVER!" - J.T. Barrett
I like Diaz, and actually think he should be able to take Miami further (quicker) than Right was able to.
Not sure they have enough in place to knock off Clemson in the ACC next season, but it's a bold pick.
Shit, I didn't spell that richt.
No problem, we're all rong now and then
I could be wrong but I don’t think Brad Kaaya was Miami’s QB in 2017. Pretty sure it was Malik Rosier.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
Miami, especially with a QB who is a limited passer, will struggle
Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0
No way Alabama is undefeated and not ranked number 1. Miami is a bold pick but Clemson loses a lot to the draft this year defensively. I like the Texas pick a lot. Some new blood and I think they could make it in.
"I'm not going to lie. We're anxious to be a part of a matchup like that. It's two states that love the game of football." -Jim Tressel
Alabama's unbeatable facade has cracked. While ESPN will still likely paint them as the Team of Destiny, the selection committee will certainly look at us over them if our schedule shapes out to be strong.
uh what? they will be the college football darlings indefinitely until saban retires or starts going senile. they "cracked" in the first playoff, how did it go for them after that?
There is no question when you take into account OSUs weak out of conference schedule this year as well.
I would be shocked if Clemson isn't in there.
What scares me is PSU back to back with TTUN and Nebraska will not be a push over.
I dont see PSU as much of a threat anymore. I feel like their window has closed. Especially with that game being in Columbus, im not worried. Nebraska is a tough test, but that game will show us if they're real or pretend.
Maybe but what about Purdue this year and Iowa the year before trap games if the players think you do no offense.
Thank goodness PSU and TTUN are no where near as good this year as last year. Huge drop offs. Out of the 3, you are right, NE could have most wins.
1. Alabama (12-1) SEC champs
2. Clemson (12-1) ACC champs
3. Oklahoma (12-1) Big 12 Champs
4. Georgia (11-2) SEC title game loss
5. Ohio State (12-1) B1G champs
6. Florida (10-2)
More of the same minus Notre Dame.
3. Oklahoma (12-1) Big 12 Champs Georgia
4. Georgia (11-2) SEC title game loss Oklahoma
5. Ohio State (12-1) B1G champs Florida
6. Florida (10-2) Ohio State
ESPN told me to FIFY
If what almost happened last year happens this year, the 4-team playoff era is over.
You couldn't squeeze in LSU?
TENNESSEE. I want to see that just to see how bad the rest of the CFB shit the bed.
Georgia was ESPN’s darling for a few years, but Smart is proving he can’t get over the hump. Tennessee is poaching from Bama (both directly and indirectly through Georgia), so I’m just getting ahead of the curve. I think the ESPN spotlight shifts if they can look good in September.
Lol Miami isn't going to the playoffs next year, and Tate Martell isn't good enough to get them above 9-3, even in the weak ACC Coastal. This is all assuming Tate Martell is given eligibility, which I still don't see happening. "My coach retired" is a terrible excuse that the NCAA would be idiotic to accept simply because of the precedent it would set. Imagine a future where a coach retires and half the team transfers out--suddenly in one fell swoop a strong program is gutted before the new coach even has a chance.
Edit: Actually looking at Miami's 2019 schedule, it's soft as butter. Miami could easily finish 11-1 or even 12-0 depending on if they can beat Florida in their season opener. They'll get absolutely wrecked by Clemson though in the ACC title game
"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."
Considering Tate Martell was the starter incumbent before Fields showed up, I'd say your selling him really short (lol). Miami has a defense, good offensive pieces, and a head coach that has the staff and players buying into the culture. Clemson loses talent to the draft at most positions. Not a stretch to think they can make a good run.
Also, I feel like Tate's transfer is all but guaranteed. If he can show to the NCAA that he was misled, he'll get the waver.
How was he misled? This ought to be good.
Maybe I am wrong, but Tate never won the starting job, so assuming he was the starter incumbent is exactly how you get butt hurt enough to leave the program you guaranteed you weren't leaving because you knew for a fact you would win the competition it turns out you didn't want to have.
Can you say 'run-on sentence'? Sure you can!
All but guaranteed? C'mon, man, I know waivers are being handed out like candy these days, but Tate claiming he was misled by anyone is just entitlement personified. I really doubt either Meyer or Day would have promised him the starting job while Baldwin was still on the roster, and that's without even factoring in Fields.
Who said Tate would have been the starter next year even without Fields?
Tate said it
My thing is, how was he misled? He knew full well that Meyer was retiring when he decided to run his mouth at the Rose Bowl about being the starter because he had been in the system for 2 years. I have no issue with what he said at the Rose Bowl and no issue with him transferring. But considering how public he was with these comments could and should really bite him in the ass.
The Pac-12 is wide open. While Oregon barely beat Michigan State in the Redbox Bowl, they have 10 offensive starters back plus a top 10 recruiting class led by 5-star DE Kayvon Thibodeaux. They open the season at home against Auburn so we'll have an early opportunity to see what the Ducks are all about.
Until further notice, I don't see any of the Pac-12 teams getting into the playoff. That conference just can't keep from bloodying its own nose. If Washington is playoff bound, Washington State ruins their season, if one of either Oregon or Stanford is in pole position, the other will spoil it.
Scroll down: I’m not the only one who thinks Oregon’s got a shot.
Clemson should run the table in the ACC; yes, they lose a lot, particularly on defense, but the cupboard is far from bare.
Oregon has a shot in the same way that teams like Texas, Michigan, Penn State, and Florida have a shot.
I'm just not ready to project them into the playoffs after a 9-4 season, especially when recent history tells us that the Pac-12 North is a clusterfuck where the favorite always gets their season spoiled by a divisional rival. Also without Marcus Mariotta, Oregon never makes it to the playoffs in 2014. Herbert is good, but he's no Mariotta.
But couldn't you say that about the B1G in general and Ohio State in particular after losses to Iowa and Purdue derailed both ours and the conference's NC aspirations the last two years? I mean, the last time the B1G was in the playoffs was also the last year the Pac-12 was in. A strong argument could be made that the B1G and the Pac-12 are on the same trajectory.
Ohio State has been in the cfp as many times as the pac12 as a whole. Ohio State is also the only team to win the CFP not named Alabama or Clemson.
Even considering the Clemson stomping, Ohio State may be the sole reason that the B1G is perceived as better than the Pac12, but that perception is real. There's not a team in that conference out west that has shown they should be taken seriously from year to year.
Kitties aren't supposed to smell like cigarettes, they're supposed to smell like kitties.
3. Ohio State
4. Texas A&M
Fuck eSECpn and fuck Mythigan.
Sounds good. Best to keep pesky Clemson and Ohio State out. We can call it the SEC conference tournament. Seed the top 4 regular season SEC teams. Problem solved.
Its been ESPN’s Holiday Invitational Tournament for the last three years. They pick who they want to pick and then tell “the committee” how to justify it. There’s just way too much money in it for members to stand up and be accountable.
We should go ahead and slate these four teams for the CF playoff right now before any games are played. Even having the committee in your pocket could not prevent that championship disaster. Repairing the PR damage that final caused to the ESPN's money cow in Bama will be extensive.
"The minute we stop expecting greatness, we become Wisconsin."
This is funny...but when half the conference is pre season top 10 it is just a bit of an exaggeration instead of impossible
Neem - have you considered a future as a fantasy writer? I like the way you think and good luck to Tate, but... Tate is not Johnny.
At least you didn’t put forth 2 SEC team playoff. That narrative drives me crazy. Some needs to awaken me with UGA wins something... anything! Choosing the Vols is also a bold choice, and methinks those posters have no idea how bad UT is! From what I have observed, Saban’s coaching tree has very spotty results...
My four: Bama, Buckeyes, Clemson, Ducks.
3. Ohio St.
Si vis pacem parabellum.
The only way Alabama gets left out in the Saban era is if they lose three games, including the CCG. Two losses or less, and they’re in.
Which is exactly the problem with the committee.
Stop kidding yourself. If Bama fields a team they are in PERIOD. They could go 0-12 and the committee would put them in on strength of schedule. And I'm only half joking.
Texas and Miami are silly. Only 4 rosters are capabale of winning the title OSU, Bama, Georgia, and Clemson. IDK how it will happen but two of those teams will play in the championship
Are they really that silly? Miami was a top 10 team with a smothering defense just two years ago and are now under a head coach that they believe in. Texas on the other hand had a 10 win season and SOUNDLY beat Georgia. they have the pieces. You can also argue they have the best defense in the Big 12.
Texas has 3 starters back on defense their defense will be worse. They lose basically their entire Oline and by far their best receiver. They should be worse based on who is gone/who is filling in. If they somehow improve they still aren't playoff level. If you look at Clemson and Miami's roster it's not even close. Clemson won't be as good on defense but will improve on offense with every skill player back. I don't think "belief" will be a big enough difference to carry a 6-6 team over a 15-0 team with its biggest holes be filled with guys like Xavier Thomas.
But, but, *ichigan has Jimmmy! The greatest coach ever to walk the planet, and they're MEEEEECHIGAN for Christ's sake!! /s
Florida State has the roster... and nothing else.
You were good until your last game. I really needed for you to say Buckeyes score on first 6 drives and crush the Tater Tots 56-3 ( I have them 3 because they did mange 3 against Wisconsin)
1- Clemson 13-0 - The fightin Dabos cruise through another pathetic ACC schedule. They have TAM at home. uSC not much on the road
2- Ohio State 13-0 - some close wins and we beat the West champ twice.
3- Alabama 12-1 - lone loss is on the road against TAM (who loses at LSU and at Clemson)
4- Georgia 12-1 - they lose the SEC CG to Bama.
“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman
2. Alabama (or Georgia--whoever wins the SEC title game)
A pair of semifinal upsets sees Ohio State take down Texas in an instant classic that goes to double overtime
Miami sucks so does Oregon. Also Texas has a ways to go. The usual suspects will be there. Bama, Clemson, Notre Dame, and Georgia. Same garbage, different day.
notre dame lmao
ND just got its noraml once every 5 years Playoff Present to get blown out this year.
The committee knows not to schedule ND into another playoff until 2024. Its a known thing.
ND has UGA and has to go to TTUN next year...they have a tough road
I see you are taking full advantage of the legal weed in Ohio with those predictions
Miami is going to be bad and Tate isn't getting a waiver. Anyway here's mine:
Clemson vs Ohio State in the natty
Miami? I understand their defense was solid for the most part this year but they have a long way to go and it does not seem likely that Tate will get a waiver.
1. Clemson 13-0 (It is hard to go undefeated two straight years but I don't really see anyone else in the ACC being that good next year.)
2. Ohio State 13-0 (Call me a homer if you want but the talent is definitely there and the schedule isn't too bad outside of a road night game against Nebraska. We play TTUN on the road but whatever they can't beat us anyway. I'm going to predict our defense will be hugely improved and Fields will be Heisman candidate.)
3. Bama 12-1 (They have a couple tough road games like Texas A&M and of course LSU is a threat to beat them. Will be interesting to see if Tua gets a lot better in games against good defenses next year.)
4. Georgia 12-1 (This spot was tough. I was thinking about Washington with Eason but I'm not sure exactly how good he is yet. Texas obviously has a shot if they can build on this season. OU will take a step back Hurts is very good but he isn't going to be a heisman trophy winner. Georgia will lose SEC Championship to Bama as their only loss. Almost all their tough regular season games are at home)
Clemson over Georgia and Ohio State over Bama
Ohio State over Clemson in the title game
Those are my predictions.
I really, really, really wish the Big Ten would come up with some marketing to emphasize November as when teams are made or broken. We play PSU the week before The Game. We’ve played Sparty the week. When we struggled against Maryland the week before The Game last year, a Maryland team that beat Texas, it essentially knocked us out of the running for ESPN’s Holiday Invitational Tournament. Alabama struggles against The Citadel that same week, people laughed it off. The Citadel finished 5-6 in whatever low level conference they play in.
Emphasize the war. Emphasize being tested. Emphasize that there is no games that are gimmes, no cream puffs, no chickenshitting. November matters, and champions are made during the stretch runs. That’s what sets the Big Ten apart.
1. Somebody other than Bama
2. Somebody other than Clemson
3. Seriously please God not Bama
4. Literally. Any. Other. Team.
Just cant wait for playoff expansion. At least the Patriots have to win the series of postseason games that bring legitimacy to their dynasty. So long as Bama beats LSU and Georgia they're in - some years they can even lose one of those despite not playing another team in the top 50 and fuck it, they're Bama. Clemson doesn't play a single team all season that would be better than 4th in the B1G EAST, but fuck it, Dabo.
Maybe I'm a cynical asshole, maybe I've had too much knobb creek. Either way, I was under the impression that the CFP would bring more parity - not ensure only 2 teams were allowed to win a national championship.
Miami???! Are you on drugs?
After that I went straight to the comments and didn’t bother with the rest.
What a long winter it will be with these types of discussions.
Clemson out? With Lawrence and bad ACC? Cupboard is faaaaaaaaaar from bare
You probably have a better chance of being struck by lightning than Miami making the playoff.
Especially in Miami. LOL
Miami 6-7 this year. They are now going to lose 1 or none? That would be the greatest turn around in college football history.
UCF under Scott Frost would like a word...
Fair enough, however now comparing running the table in a P5 conf to a non P5 conf.
Calling the ACC a power conference is generous
Hm? Didn’t Ohio State go 6-7 before they went 12-0?????
Neem aka Tates biggest fan. Please delete your account. Miami stands no chance of making the playoffs. They will be good again someday..... maybe....
Buckeye Til I Die
Georgia / Clemson / Oklahoma / Bama
Clemson / Oklahoma run the table against joke schedules. Georgia beats Bama in the SEC title game. We trip up once in the Nebraska / Sparty / Northwestern / Wisky stretch. Bama gets the 4th spot because everyone forgets about the curb stomp against Clemson and determines Tua is once again the greatest college QB ever and espn wants their "Southeast Football Invitational".
i think we may see a different OSU transfer at QB.in the Playoffs
A 1 loss LSU team who beat Texas early on the road and knocked out Bama
Clemson is 100% making it and will go undefeated. They're schedule sets up too well for them not too with Trevor Lawrence and co. coming back. Ohio State will drop a game this year but avenge it and get in (probably Nebraska), I feel like this could be one of Ohio State's better teams in recent years. We have a lot of returning starters on defense and every one knows that JK Dobbins, Justin Fields, that Receiving Core + Day/Wilson/Yurcich will be as good as anyone offensively. I believe this is the year that Bama doesn't get in (lol), I think UGA beats them in the SEC Championship game. They have too much coaching turnover, it's going to bite them. Sarkisian is a horrible OC. They'll finish the season 11-2 and UGA will finish 12-1 AND jump us after that cuz ya know, SEC Bias. History says that team number 4 is going to be a weird team that doesn't deserve to be there (Not enough talent to compete with big boys) but has a solid season and gets in, giving the #1 seed an easy walk to the Championship game (2015 MSU, 2016 Washington, 2018 Notre Dame). This year, I'm leaning towards Washington. Washington's schedule sets up nicely, they have the best coach in the conference and the Pac 12 sucks, so I think they'll get in and get smashed by Clemson.
1. Clemson (13-0)
2. Georgia (12-1)
3. Ohio State (12-1)
4. Washington (12-1)
National Champion: Winner of the Ohio State/Georgia game over Clemson.
"The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish" - Charlie Chaplin
1. Clemson (13-0)
2. Ohio State (13-0)
3. Alabama (12-1)
4. Texas (11-2)
I'll take the good guys in the natty 42-31 over Clemson
No way a 2-loss Texas team gets in unless there are no other 1 loss teams. Even then, they'd probably put in the SEC runner up if they had 2 losses
Fun to think about but Clemson isn't going anywhere. OSU,Bama, Clemson, and Oklahoma is my too early prediction.
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Can you imagine a team that lost Mike Weber, Nick Bosa, Paris Campbell, Terry Mclaurin, Jonny Dixon, Dwayne Haskins, Malcom Pridgeon, Isiah Prince, Dre'mont Jones, Sean Nurnberger and Urban Meyer talking about the playoffs the following year.
Sleeper in all this are the Akron Zips.
08/31 - at Illinois
09/07 - UAB
09/21 - Troy
09/28 - at UMass
4-0 and in the top 50!
It is winter after all!
"My aim, then, was to whip (TTUN), to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us." - William Tecumseh Sherman
1. Ohio State
4. Kentucky (too many talented Ohio kids to keep them out)
A year from now, you’re going to say “I definitely outthought myself with that Miami pick”
Clemson, Alabama, Texas (I may be saying the same thing with this pick) and Ohio State
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I'm not sure why people think Tate Martell is going to make Miami into a playoff team, or why they'd even want that to happen. Let it go, the kid's not a Buckeye anymore.
Is it such a bad thing to want people to succeed?
I’ve liked Tate since his High School days. Once a Buckeye, ALWAYS a Buckeye. Don’t care what you did or didn’t do.
Clemson has DOMINATED the ACC since Jameis Winston left. Is it too bad to want a different team to do good?
I'd be all for Clemson getting knocked off their perch, but I don't think Miami is the team that will do it.
The only way Clemson gets knocked off is if Dabo leaves, and that isn't happening unless he takes the Bama job after Saban retires
I realized I did that after the edit link vanished.
If Miami wins 10 games next year, Tathan or no, I'll be shocked.
They have a lot of work to do.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
To be fair, their schedule is super soft. They start the season hosting Florida (a probable L) but then after that their toughest games are @ Pitt, @ FSU, and @ Duke. They avoid Clemson, Wake Forest, and Syracuse, and they get Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech at home.
Unless Miami is even worse in 2019 than they were in 2018, they should easily make it to 8-4 with that schedule, and 9-3 or 10-2 seem well within reach.
None of this is to say Miami will be GOOD next year, or playoff-worthy, but with the ACC being as weak as it is and their schedule being so favorable, Miami should have no trouble getting to a decent bowl game.
I just think it stands to reason, given their recent history, they'll find a way to screw it up. 8 wins sounds about right, but I'd reckon Pitt will rumble all over them with the ground game, I can't imagine Va. Tech being as bad as they were last year, and Ga. Tech plays an offense that doesn't suit the U defense all that well, so 8-9 seems logical, 10 seems fairytale, IMO.
A tOSU and UT matchup in the natty would break every TV rating in CFB history. That's like the 2 biggest sport fanbases together in one game.
For an actual prediction:
Clemson wins out in a weak ACC on the back of a ridiculous offense with T Lawrence at the helm. Georgia sweeps the East, or even has one loss, but wins the SEC. Ohio State doesn't escape the regular season unscathed but drops a real game against Nebraska or Penn State, not a trap game so the playoff chances aren't snuffed out.
I am struggling with the fourth pick. Texas looked really good at the end of the season but couldn't beat an Oklahoma team that, really, got beat up and down the field by Alabama for most of the game. I'm not sure if they can take the leap to the top, but they'd be in as Big 12 champ over a non-SEC champ Alabama with the same record. Or...pending a weak Big 12 it'd be a 2-team SEC playoff again with Bama/Clemson rematch in the semis for ratings.
Bucks beat UGA in a TOUGH, physical game that's all about the line of scrimmage, but Justin Fields out-duels Fromm due to us having a deeper, better receiving corp.
Clemson beats Bama again.
Clemson beats OSU in the championship again...the trend continues and our lack of depth on the O-line, youth at QB, and fucking Brent V keep the awful trend alive.
To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.
I think next year is chaos with several one loss teams making an argument.
Clemson and Bama will be locks despite both losing one game. Both teams can beat the Patriots so the committee has to let them in.
I think 6 other SEC teams will claim only one true loss or no losses, because a loss to a team ranked in the top 100 is a quality loss and should count as a win.
The ACC will adopt the SEC logic and claim losses as victories to top ranked teams. Any loss to Clemson will be deemed a victory.
The B1G, Pac 12 and Big 12 will all be left out. The committee has enough on their plate in choosing from among the one loss SEC and ACC teams.
"Your focus determines your reality."
Um........ I think you forgot /s
1. Clemson - They're a playoff caliber team playing in the ACC. They'll win out and be a lock for the playoffs.
2. Alabama - Georgia is the only team that will give them fits, but Georgia is really good at finding new and creative ways to choke.
3. Ohio State - While all of the media is making a big thing about it being Ryan Day's first season running Ohio State Football, we all know he isn't new and the players already know what he's all about. They new coaching hires will make the changes on defense we've been waiting for. The only question is how much better at passing and reading defenses can Fields get in one off season. Also, even if he doesn't pan out (not likely) Matt Baldwin doesn't even seem to be a thought to most of the nation when it comes to Ohio State's offense. Who knows how good her really is.
4. Texas - Because I don't want two SEC teams. They're interchangable with Oklahoma. They did smash Georgia though.
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Good take. But I’m not sold on the Longhorns
I dislike so many 3 spots in this thread for the Buckeyes. That spot is 0 for 5.
Hate to break it to you but if Miami makes it to the CFP, Tate won't be their QB. He is going to have to sit out a year.
Go for two only because you can't go for three
I will probably be pulling for Tathan against Clemson. Like I said, if he cleans up his social media, starts using the correct cliches, etc, I will watch just like I did LSU last year.
1. Clemson (13-0)
2. Alabama (12-1)
3. Ohio State (12-1)
4. Georgia (12-1)
Clemson runs the table. OSU 1 loss is to Nebraska, but avenges that loss in Indy. Bama loses to LSU but beats previously undefeated Georgia in SEC champ. Committee wants to put UGA at 3, but doesn't want a rematch so they put them at 4 and OSU at 3. Oklahoma loses 2. ND loses 2. Texas loses 2. All of Pac12 has 3+ losses.
Bama beats OSU, Clemson beats UGA and we get Bama/Clemson for the 87th time. Clemson goes back to back.
Everyone sleepin' on Oklahoma.
Yes, let's make a Hurts vs Tua semi-final happen.