Heck of a car salesman too.
Been like 6 months since Buckeye Jack got the ban hammer. Have you considered letting his take go?
Is he gone for Good? I hope not.
Mahomes. I've never seen raw arm talent like that.
And Toledo still sucks.
Ever heard of Brett favre?
I'm only 20, so I grew up on old, kinda washed Brett. I'm sure he was electric in his prime, but I never got to see that period live and really understand it.
I can't believe he retired 9 years ago already, though. I know he's in the Hall, but wow.
Well, I'm 28 and u made me feel old. I kind of like it.
I love Favre, I am a big fan, and remember his whole career, but Mahomes has the strongest arm and the best control over it that I have ever seen.
The only good thing about The Game is winning it - Urban Meyer
Ever heard of John Elway?
wonder if he has anything left?
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I like Mahomes a lot but Aaron Rodgers is my top guy. Rodgers may be the most naturally gifted QB I've seen in the NFL in a long time. It's a shame the Packers have completely squandered much of his career. He should have more than 1 SB ring.
I love watching him play/throw. Makes it look so easy. Quickest release from any position (pocket, rolling left, right, etc.).
You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton
Rodgers is also at fault for squandering the team around him, not just the FO or coaches.
“Megadeth >>> Metallica” - Alum 2019. I couldn’t agree more.
Rodgers has never had a great team around him. And he's also never really played behind a good offensive line since he's been the starter in GB. Blame that on McCarthy and Ted Thompson (previous GM), not Rodgers.
Uhhhhh, who does Brady have this year? Julian Edelman, a converted QB? Come on now, Rogers definitely deserves some of the blame for HIS career.
HIs super bowl team was pretty good, especially on defense. They also had a pro bowl tackle at that point and all those receivers Favre finished with were still there (Jennings, driver, . To say he's never had a really good team is naive.
I like a Phil Rivers type. Confidence he can manage the offense, call plays on the field and let me focus on the D...it wins championships, I've heard.
Never before in the history of man have lives less lived been more chronicled. - Dennis Miller
Always a bit of luck involved in things.. Imagine if Rivers had landed in NE and had Robert Kraft as owner vs the inept Spanos gang in SD and LA.. Hard to imagine another QB that's done more with less than Rivers over the years.
I would say Mahomes or Jamarcus Russell
Russell was particularly elite when it came to throwing INTs. No one was quite as skilled at that as he was lol.
What, nobody has a taste for GOAT...
I know, I know, it makes me a little queasy too, all that blue and amarillo and that damn M too.
WTF, way to ruin a forum post, right?!?
But seriously, IMHO all time great NFL franchise QB's have to be"Dandy" Don Meredith, Joe Montana, Brett Favre?
More recently as mentioned Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers?
My pick to build a franchise, hands down it The Dwayne Train for me baby. He has the tools, he definitely has the upside and with very little wear on his body, he could be slinging it on Sundays more many years to come!!
"Defiance in Silence"
Meredith? I don't think so. He's probably only the third best COWBOY quarterback of all time (after Staubach and Aikman)
He may be the goat, but it's no thanks to TTUN.
Michigan would like you to never forget that it developed the greatest QB who ever lived into a 6th round pick https://t.co/9cLFbgHjXc
— Ramzy Nasrallah (@ramzy) January 21, 2019
Rodgers is the best there is (screw you, Packers, for wasting his career), but if I'm starting from scratch I'm going with Mahomes hands down.
Baker Mayfield, not easy to breathe life back into a franchise like he has in just one year.
“It is now my duty to completely drain you” RIP Kurt
The QB that took the Rams to their first NFL Championship-Bob Waterfield. You get his wife, Jane Russell, as a bonus.
a hard rock miner from Butte, Montana
Hands down, Roger Staubach... the most competitive, athletic throw and run combination to play quarterback in the NFL, imo. Staubach was the personification of the word 'leader.'
When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's
No argument here KMP!! Roger was the epitome of leadership, on and off the field.
You could have said Meredith, Staubach or Aikman and I wouldn't have argued with you.
The rest of the forum may have something to say about it but that's another story...
Defiance, I don't think Meredith, especially, or Aikman were nearly as good as Staubach. Aikman would be much closer than DM, but Troy wasn't the complete package that Staubach was. Honestly, the closest a Cowboys QB has come to Roger Staubach since 1979 (Staubach's retirement year) is Tony Romo. Their games are very similar from a physical perspective... but Staubach dwarfs Romo in his ability to manage a game and a team psychologically (and so did Aikman, obviously). Staubach was the definition of cool under pressure... the bigger the moment, the more Staubach excelled, where Romo, as good an athlete as he was, consistently faded when the lights were the brightest. Some guys are comfortable being uncomfortable, while other guys shrink when the moment gets too intense. Staubach always rose to the occasion.
Absolutely agree with your take on Roger, he was his finest when the test was the toughest, whether it was in the service of our country or on the field for Big D! They played in different eras and I definitely see your point. I don't think they are comparable unless you take them all as Cowboy's QBs.
I think for me I tend to wear those star-shaped blue and silver glasses when I look at the NFL much like my Scarlet and Gray glasses can cloud my view of the college football landscape.
Those were the real uniforms. Like the Browns, they should go look back.
If you're building a franchise, their paycheck definitely matters, so you're likely going with someone on a rookie deal. Give me Mahomes.
I still don't understand how the Chiefs defense wasn't better with arguably their 3 best offensive players (before Hunt's issues) on rookie deals.
Go Bucks, Deacs, Panthers, Braves
Your answer was fired Monday. Horrible playcalling by Sutton. Also, KC did have some key injuries. Berry all season was an issue, LDT as guard and the loss of Hunt was big. He was a great player, but I am glad he is gone. I hope KC drafts a good RB early after they spend a few picks on secondary.
I saw a UFO once.......it told me to have a goodyear!
Easy, the greatest qb to ever play for Ohio State, Johnny Utah.
Scrolling down, this makes more sense than most have so far.
"You have to play with emotion, you can't let emotion play with you." - Ryan Day
You could always count on Utah for a 2-point conversion.
I hate to say this...but I think the answer depends on how many years I have on my GM contract (and how secure I think my job is).
If I had to win in one year, I'll take a guy with a very high floor, even if they're on the downside of their career (i.e. like a Drew Brees).
If I thought I had a little more time to build that team and room to make mistakes the first year or two, Mahomes.
Mahomes has a ridiculous arm, but who knows if he'll continue improving from this season. He could take a step back--many other younger quarterbacks have. (Vince Young was a Pro Bowler and ROY his first year, Mark Sanchez made back-to-back AFC Championships, Josh Freeman, the list goes on.)
With someone like Brees, I'm pretty sure I have a competitive team Year 1...even if I may not have a starting quarterback by Year 3. However, if I have to win Year 1 (and can collect my big lump sum buyout in Year 3 when they fire me)...
With running back Eddie Lacy. Immovable objects.
How can any of you resist the elegant charm that is the neck beard?
Tom Brady lost to John Cooper. Never forget.
No love here for Otto Graham?
Bernie Kosar, with a healthy back?
Lamplighter-+1 for Otto. My favorite QB of all time is Sammy Baugh, punt, pass, run, safety, general all around player.
Poco, I’ll see your Sammy Baugh and raise you Billy Kilmer, my favorite QB. I was a young kid when he played, but man did he play with passion.
Slingin Sammy Baugh. For sure.
Lets not forget Bobby Layne, Milt Plum, and that guy from Louisville. Unitas, i think
Since this is just a game of chance, I’m going to gamble with this bet.
“gamble with this bet”. That’s an excellent comment Homey. +1
I'm thinking many on here don't know that's Schlicter.
Money no object and I'm building a team today... Guys like Brady, Ben, Brees, Rivers etc too old to build around imo. Rodgers has all the talent in the world but more and more he seems like a total head case so hard pass..
2 options imo.... if I'm building a team it would be Mahomes or Trubisky. Would just depend on the team and who I had around them. Trubisky has a bunch of OK pieces around him in Chicago and was still pretty fantastic. Would love to see him with dudes like Hill and Kelce...
Akili Smith, David Klingler, the Throwin' Samoan
whoa ... thought I was Mike Brown there for an instant.
Varys: I've always hated the bells. They ring for horror, a dead king, a city under siege.
Tyrion: A wedding.
Nobody voting for “Chris” Everett?
You probably won’t say it again.
Rome is an asshole. You know he shit his pants when the table literally flipped.
One of the greatest “holy shit” moments ever. He was no small guy either.
I'm jaded but Russell Wilson is right up there for me.
Focusing on Penn State !!
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
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I'm partial to Mahomes but I will say I hope he isn't a flash in the pan and defensive coaches figure him out. I really want to see him play like he does with a defense that will help him instead of make things harder.
Give me the Dwayne Haskins! He will win 10 super bowl rings so we wont ever have to hear about that Brady kid ever again
I’ve never seen anyone as good as Rodgers. He’s unbelievable if you actually study the QB position. Release, arm strength, mobility, and brains. Got it all.
If I get to choose throughout history, I will take Steve Young at the start of his career with Bill Walsh as my coach and Paul Brown as my GM.
If I'm taking a guy that's in the league at this moment I'm going with Mahomes or Watson.
If 2019 rookies are being counted I'm going with Dwayne Haskins Jr.
All hail the God-King Mitch Trubisky!
No seriously though, Pat Mahommes.
Proudly dispensing unbridled arrogance since 1983.
Joe Bauserman ... Can someone post his passing chart please ???
More seriously, if i need to win right now and i have an established/proven talent team my pick is Brady BUT if a rebuild and i have a young/unproven talent team i take Mahomes .
Go Bucks !!!
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Andrew Luck by a mile. If you look at the Colts, TY Hilton is listed at 5"9" (dude looks shorter than that to me) but their star RB is a 4th round pick from South Florida, number one TE (Eric Ebron whom I think is awesome) doesn't exactly catch every pass thrown at him, fantastic guy but he's not exactly Gronk here. The Colts O-line is getting better but from day 1 that Luck has been w/Indy, it's been sketchy and patched together at best. Hell, I mean the main reason the man has missed so much football is because they've put that poor kid behind one of the crappiest O-lines out there. I don't have the numbers in front of me but for years he was the most sacked QB in the league I believe.
Could you imagine if Luck had gone to Dallas, Denver, Seattle, Baltimore or hell I don't know ANY team really with a halfway decent O line? He's done really well in Indy but I just can't imagine how well he would have done on team with a solid head coach and competent GM. Can you image if Luck replaced Brady in New England? I mean, hell, he's been saddled with Pagano as his head coach and Grigson as his GM for most of his career in Indy.
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I'm taking A-A Ron. Incredible talent.
Not this one:
Mahomes easy. That combination of arm talent and athleticism is something else.
I will take Fran Tarkington in his prime. He was like Mahoney only more slippery. Slipped out of more tackles than a greased pig.
Russell Wilson is practically a Tarkington clone. Same player, IMO.
Steve Young, one of the greatest duel threats of all time. He has rings, records and played for one of the top three coaches in NFL history .
Even though Ive never been a Packers or Vikings fan I always did admire Brett Favre's throwing. QBs like him just dont come along very often. He could probably still play if he truly wanted to.
"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine
I love Carson Wentz, but his injuries are absolutely killer.
Mahomes is a great choice, but I think Andrew Luck's ability and toughness make him a better choice.
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
At the moment, if I were just putting the pieces together it would be Mahomes or Luck at the moment. If most of the other parts were in place but needed a guy to do it and I could get anybody...Brees more than likely. I always liked him as a player, but in the longer run there are a few up and comers that look pretty solid out there.