Tate Martell Considered Transfer Before the 2018 Season, Attorney Says Coaching Turnover Played a Major Role in Transfer Decision, Per Report

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JimmyVanP's picture

He was set to graduate in 4 semesters? That's honestly rare for a student athlete good for him. I know I'm a sophomore and I'm definitely not ready to graduate this spring lol

"I feel ready for whatever awaits me on the other side. I don’t fear adversity. I don’t fear the spotlight. I don’t fear success. And I don’t fear failure." - Braxton Miller

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Kevin Harrish's picture

They go to school in the summer as well, and he enrolled early. So by my math, it's actually seven semesters. But still, he took care of business.

JimmyVanP's picture

Oh yeah.. duh lol

Still impressive 

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mrgreenpants's picture

then add AP and college credit from high school..and it makes sense.

Joe Burrow already showed how it's done... he *could* have competed @OSU in spring...and then transferred before summer to workout/win the team @ miami with 3 years eligibility if things dont work out in columbus

after spring he could also accurately scout the competition.

it is a huge gamble for Tate not staying to graduate ...and potentially a critical error.

imo, Tate martell was advised poorly....and life decisions seemed to have been made emotionally....

this may cost him a football career, unfortunately.

that freshman QB in miami is a bigtime arm talent.  he redshirted not because he isnt good....but because he was physically immature (not ready) as a true freshman. the kid as 3 years and done type potential, imo.

i'm thinking the family didnt even know about Jarren Williams....nor that other phyiscally immature kid at OSU that would eventually develop into the NFL draft's QB1.

even if Tate is eligible in the fall.. there would be no surprise for manny to allow them to compete well into the season.

Yes, you want to get the reps in spring ball...  but if tate's waiver is denied(odds are not great for tate)... he will watch a now more physically "ready" Jarren Williams win the job...get all the reps..gain that experience...and holds onto QB1 until the NFL comes calling.

..then we'll watch tate leave coral gables for a CFL tryout after a year.

his legacy being the kid from vegas that turned himself into a meme (ie striking out twice)

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zeketolliver's picture

Actually, I think Urban Meyer's departure gives Tate a pretty good shot at getting a waiver. 

Whoso would be a man, must be a non-conformist.

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dlej419's picture

I would think so.  His case actually looks more legit than Fields case to me.  

Just keep punching!

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BillShermansGhost's picture

I strongly disagree, a coach leaving is not a "hardship,"  Having a racist slur spoken about you so casually is.

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Aristotle's picture

It's amazing Fields was able to make it thru the whole football season and actually play in some games after that slur was directed at him in September...

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DiasporaBuck's picture

It feels like a contrived justification, given that he nearly transferred already when a coaching change wasn't even a consideration and even afterward still had a path to immediate eligibility that he turned down.

OSU Class of 1999

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CTownBucknut's picture

Honestly, I think most of these cases are contrived justification.  This isn't to say Fields doesn't have a strong case, but if I'm being honest, my guess is he'd still be at Georgia if not for Fromm.  In the case of Martell, I'm sure they will use the Zach Smith situation to further their case, and that would fit in with the idea that he almost transferred before the season.  Again, this doesn't mean it's justified per say, but it may be enough to get him the desired outcome.  

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Dillon G's picture

Anther Miami QB graduated very early. But that is because he was smarter than everybody else. Have you heard of Bernie Kosar? 

#walkaway

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Major H's picture

Associate degrees count?

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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buckeyefan333's picture

7 semesters I believe:

Spring 2017, Summer 2017, Fall 2017, Spring 2018, Summer 2018, Fall 2018, Spring 2019

He enrolled early and football players take summer classes so if he was on track to graduate at the end of this semester that would make 7. 

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Brah Zhole's picture

Brahs, I'm gonna guess it's gonna be hard to get a "hardship waiver", or any thing close, when just 3 weeks ago you were making social media promises about being the man, knowing the system and trusting the coach.  

If he transfers before graduating, which would be one semester, and then sits, he's not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, despite his 7 semesters.

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BuckeyePat's picture

I think it’s ridiculous he left and never once thanked Ohio State, his coaches, fans, or teammates. 

Major smack in the face

This is all a gimmick from an arrogant kid to beat the “sit a season” rule imo

Staff’s have changed before. Doesn’t mean you get a waiver

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BuckeyeatTSUN's picture

After the way they attacked him I don’t blame him for not thanking the fans.

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BornNbredAthensBuckeye's picture

Hey hasn't had any class yet, why would he start now?

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Tony Stark's picture

Excellent point Brah! How he can argue the change in coaching staff (which is an awful excuse itself) is a factor when he went tweeting after the change in coaching how he is staying and starting?  Surprise! social media comes back and bites someone in the ass.  That's a first!

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Silver Sniper's picture

There were some things that happened at Ohio State that we can potentially get some relief from the NCAA, and we’re going to try it that way.

What the ever living f—- is this asshat talking  about? 

—> Cue Brett McMurphy writing another article on Facebook.

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FairfaxBuckeye's picture

I have a feeling that they will not just use the coaching change, but also the circumstances surrounding it.  They will likely say that Ohio State and Meyer knew that Meyer was dealing with health issues, but the extent of them, and potential impact, were not made clear to Tate when he was being recruited. That is, had Tate known Meyer was having health issues and that he would not be there for his full 4/5 years, he would not have come to Ohio State.  As well, I believe Zach Smith was the lead recruiter for Gorman, if I recall correctly, so I anticipate Tate's attorney mentioning the OSU investigation regarding that matter, Smith's firing, and Meyer's suspension.  

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jpfbucks01's picture

I think you are headed the right direction plus i think they will throw in the Z Smith episode too

Per this report he failed to show for day 1 of camp this past year as he was considering leaving then

The Smith story broke on July 23, Meyer was suspended temporarily for the investigation on August 1 ie the start of camp

I think Martell's story will be the following:

1) I was very upset with what was revealed as part of the Smith story and felt I wanted to leave

2) Urban and Day talked me out of it with assurances that coach Meyer was in for the long haul, (see public statements by both)

3) So i decided to stay even though i had misgivings

4) Meyer decides to leave shortly before the Rose Bowl, backing out of his promise to stay

5) Day makes it clear that a return to the Read option offense is not what he is considering by changing OC/QB coach to Yurcich and by soliciting Fields as competition for me as he is slightly better suited to the current offense than I am

6) Hence due to the staff changes and my previous misgivings and false assurances I could not see this situation forthcoming (ie out of my control)

I think this will be the basis of his appeal and given the current "somewhat" greater leniency of the NCAA on granting these waivers he may have a case

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BrewinBuckFan's picture

1.  I think players, including Tate, should be able to transfer once with out restriction and not sitout a year, especially if their HC or position coach changes

2.  With that being said if the NCAA starts allowing transfers because a coach allegedly misled a recruit then there is no point in having transfer restrictions at all

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rkylet83's picture

He should have just waited.  Now he has to sit a year.  Graduate and go where you want and play immediately...now you have to wait behind someone else and hope they don’t get a stranglehold on the job.  

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kmp10's picture

Now he has to sit a year.

What? That's FAR from determined. There have been waivers given to other OSU players, Antonio Williams and Jack Wohlabaugh being two, who had no known reason for gaining immediate PT aside from being buried on Ohio State's depth chart. Martell's reason for a waiver, at least in part, is that the guy who recruited him because he fit like glove in his offensive system abruptly decided to leave. That, in and of itself, would seem to offer him a better chance at a waiver than both Williams and Wohlabaugh. I think Martell plays in 2019.

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tcm1968's picture

There was a clear cut reason to get a do over transfer last season.... not sure that applies this season... and you don't shout from the rooftops come take my job ( knowing there's a new head coach) and then want to transfer after finding out it's not your job potentially...

And Jack Wohlabaugh and Williams both had reasons. Williams got a hardship waiver ( as a lot of folks do) because he transferred back home.. Wohlabaugh most people have suggested got the transfer train rolling during the season and then it was just a formality and that both Duke and OSU worked on his appeal to the NCAA.

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NOLABuckeye's picture

I gotta think that not waiting til spring when he could've transferred free and clear will weigh heavily against him.

Nothing cleanses the soul like a no call pass interference.

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tcm1968's picture

Yup, keep your head down a few more months and play anywhere day 1.... lack of patience..

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stuckinSouthBend's picture

Seems like he wanted to get out regardless of the risk to 2019. Kid must have not been happy.

Scarlett & Gray > Blue and Gold

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saintstephen11's picture

This smacks of the rest of the team seeing him as the tool he is. Once you lose the locker room transferring is all you really have.

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WahooFanChicago's picture

yeh, some kind of sh^t must have gone down. Otherwise you really think he would have stayed, tried to win the job in the spring, graduated and then transferred without sitting out in the summer if he didn't win the job.

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luckynutz's picture

Williams is from North Carolina. He went back home due to family issues. Just read the story on it. His parents split, and his grandparents had health concerns. That's a far better reason to be granted a waiver than being butthurt over having to earn the starting job.

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Hemi14's picture

You mean butt hurt, as in Justin Fields?

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rosycheeks's picture

I think Martell plays in 2019.

Couldn't care less about Martell playing in 2019, but I hope you're right b/c there's no way he's eligible but Fields isn't.

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thedewman10's picture

If Tate is arguing coaching changes, Tate actually has a better point. Fields reason is that he feels unsafe at GA, when he stayed and played the whole season after it happened. You don’t feel unsafe someoplace and stay in that place. That, to me, is a reason they may use against him getting one. 

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Brutus865's picture

Did Jacob Eason apply for a waiver? He had to sit this year..

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BuckNut_1974's picture

Agree. He should have waited, graduate and then not have to worry about getting a waiver. Seems to be the better way. Yes he would have missed spring practice, but Burrow did it that way and was still the starter. He might of had more schools after him also if he was a grad transfer. But it also appears he might not of been happy here anyway if he was going to transfer last season.

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awlinBrutus's picture

Plus he could have competed in spring for the starting spot. Maybe he behaved poorly and said things he shouldnt have and didn't have a choice? Could have been the helicopter father. And i get the father protecting the one time Gatorade player of the year. As a father you wanna make sure a kid like tate maximizes his potential. Natural imo.

MICHIGAN STILL SUCKS

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LouBuck35's picture

I'm already to the point where I just don't want to hear his name anymore.  If he was that pissed that he thought he should have been in the equation over Dwayne Haskins going into fall camp, then he must think he is a lot better than he is.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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Jsnyde45's picture

How do we know. He could be really fuckin good man. 

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LouBuck35's picture

He might very well be. But he's not better than Haskins and he was the clear #3 before Burrow transferred. Competition was between Dwayne and Joe, everything else was just lip service to try to keep Tate semi content.

Look, if Urban Meyer is still the coach, Tate is probably your starter. But he ain't, so he ain't.

I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

I seem to recall that it was Tate who spouted off about there being special packages, and this was either during Fall Camp or right after.

No he wasn’t better than Haskins, but was definitely given reps with the Starters to placate him because of  his displeasure (and threat to bolt).

I’d previously noted that and was accused of  implying that I was some type of insider and was throwing manure against the wall to see what stuck.

Well no I’m not an insider, but I never assume that just because a beat writer doesn’t report it, or because it posted in a forum by a poster, that info isn’t true.

There literally are people who post who know players and sometimes get scuttlebutt and pass it along in these parts.

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

Tater not gonna Tate HERE!

THE END

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Drpsychbuck's picture

Good at running his mouth and alienating himself from his team. Kid was going to walk away prior to fall camp. Hope he sits and then finds himself in a crowded QB room in a less favorable situation than at OSU. They have Jarrett and two other QBs that will have more playing time than him when he finally earns eligibility in 2020.

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stxbuck's picture

We know what HE wanted us to know from his social media antics.

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RC's picture

Yep, fuck this kid. Sorry, but he seems to be an entitled little asshole. He gets it honestly though, from his parents.

The kid's all talk. But, when it comes down to action, he tucks his tail and runs. He's very high on himself

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BuckeyeinFlorida's picture

LB35,
Friday at 2:36 pm. 60 upvotes and 5 down. That absolutely explains the fan opinions. Don't go away mad. Just go away.

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bucks4nuts's picture

Go on mr lawyer .. This is just the start of the portal business.. ncaa will just Grant all waviers soon enough — but only for one transfer .. Affer that u have to sit out 

"To The House"

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goodlifesean's picture

As they should NCAA is nothing but a Cartel at best,

Have you ever seen a fierce animal who you were sure wouldn't bite? Because I haven't.

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Stoicpaisano's picture

Don’t need the hardship waiver to participate in practice. Plenty of reps to go around in CMH or Coral Gables.

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huffdaddy's picture

So, my lawyerly advice:

Maybe don't tell a reporter that your legal strategy is to throw as much against the wall as you can. It, um, undercuts the seriousness of your argument.

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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Darksungm's picture

There should be a 2 point upvote option for Arrested Development references.

God bless and go Bucks.

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My Dad Is A Wolverine But I'm A Buckeye's picture

I second this motion.

Number 1 rule in life: always beat That Team Up North. 

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Maybe don't tell a reporter that your legal strategy is to throw as much against the wall as you can. It, um, undercuts the seriousness of your argument.

This made me laugh as well.  Can't believe he said that.  Then again, if you're a lawyer and you're taking cases where you have zero jurisdiction, then you're probably not a top-shelf option in your field.  Just guessing here.

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TigerSweat's picture

As I've said since Fields officially transfered... Tate is about throw a truck load of shit at OSU, it's football program and it's coaches. I predict that by summer, Tate will one of the most disliked former players in Buckeye history.

Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0

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huffdaddy's picture

He manages to generate about 40 percent of the noise on any of his teams. Which only works if you generate 40 percent of the production.

"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.

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Moutarde's picture

Heh.  Maybe he should have called his cousin Vinny?

A thing repeated will happen a third time.

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Darksungm's picture

What are the chances the shit being thrown against the wall includes how Tate is somehow a victim in the Zach Smith mess?

God bless and go Bucks.

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bucknut1994's picture

“There's no reason I shouldn't (stay),” Martell said on Sunday. “This dude hasn't put a single second into Ohio State football. I don't know why somebody would think that the grass is greener on the other side, but I guess he's kind of looking at it like a fantasy way, I guess.”

It's crazy how fast things change Tathan 

#94Ways

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Cptnvideo's picture

I wonder if Tathan has any OSU tattoos.

My favorite team? Whoever is playing TTUN.

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BeepBeep's picture

I can't fathom how how that got down votes. There should be a requirement to give a reason to every down vote.

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Knite's picture

They should take this upvote, downvote and just shit can it. Hardly no one uses it like it should it was intended to be used. If you say something that someone doesn't like, they down vote you,  yeah  ok.....

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OhioState8188's picture

Graduating that fast... wow

I understand being able to practice in the spring and the effect that can have but Joe Burrow transferred super late and was able to lead LSU. Pushing for a waiver might come back to bite him.

O-H

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Huskerbuck's picture

Very disappointed in Tate the athlete and Tate the person.  Took him at his word when he said to bring on the challenge and he would win the starting QB job.  So much for taking on the challenge not to mention not following through on his word. 

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crnastu's picture

I agree, thought he should have stayed and competed in the Spring... then graduate and go wherever you want to and play immediately if it didn’t go your way. 

Makes me wonder about the backstory we don’t know about, what was the relationship between him and Day? Did he have a chance to start? Was Day already looking to Baldwin after Haskins? Add Fields to the mix and he saw the writing on the wall. But, I still feel that if he’s the player he thinks he is then why not fight and earn the right to start? 

Stu

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Hemi14's picture

Something had to happen after his bold tweets, causing a complete and very quick 180. Unless I’ve missed any publicized conversations, Day has been very quiet since the transfer announcement. Is it possible Day informed Martell that Fields “is now the front runner for the offense we plan to run”? It’s not out of the realm of possibility Martell was told he won’t be the lead candidate to run the offense. 

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ibuck's picture

 Is it possible Day informed Martell that Fields “is now the front runner for the offense we plan to run”? It’s not out of the realm of possibility Martell was told he won’t be the lead candidate to run the offense. 

Seems possible (probable?) that Day told Martell that . . .

  • OSU would not run the read option
  • Efficient passing would be a key criterion for QB, including seeing the field and accurately passing to the open receiver
  • Baldwin had the edge over him, and
  • Fields likely did too, perhaps having the edge over Baldwin
  • Undermining the team would not be tolerated, and Tate's tweets were of concern.

Just a 2-cent guess.

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Davep160's picture

Graduating in 3. Go him

The lord of brevity.

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Extramedium's picture

Except he's not, he's leaving first 

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nm_buck's picture

Good luck Taters.... beat clemson.

"The future is bright at Ohio State."  - Urban Meyer 1/1/15

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faux_maestro's picture

Clairvoyant.

They're all chickens. The rooster has sex with all of them.

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NHBuckeye's picture

Personality clashes huh?   Interesting.  

Fields of Dreams

 

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Crowd Threatening Bauserbombs's picture

His personality clashed with the coaches’ personality that said he wasn’t good enough to start.

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

Time will tell, but I WILL NOT be surprised that if the waiver isn’t granted, the Martell machine will consider throwing shade @ OSU w/ regards to where “bodies are buried”.

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NOLABuckeye's picture

I don't think the waiver is granted, but I do agree that they'll throw plenty of shade.

Nothing cleanses the soul like a no call pass interference.

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Rollin'85South's picture

In my honest opinion, any “bodies” would’ve came out when the whole Zach Smith thing went down. I’m guessing there is nothing left after McMuffin tried his hardest with the Grimes story.

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Seattleosufan's picture

I seem to remember Meyer saying something to the effect that Tate was having a hard time when he first got to OSU. Maybe the other players gave him grief. Guys have a way of trying to ground a prima Donna. 

Deserves got nothin' to do with it

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awlinBrutus's picture

I have my suspicions it was deeper than that. But I'm thinking along the lines he was a "little different" than others in his social network. And that's ok but initially it could have been awkward in the locker room. Or maybe he acts as cocky as he looks? Maybe he came off as a spoiled rich kid? In D1 a lot of guys come from varied backgrounds. I can't see Day not tailoring his offense to a possibly better runner and thrower than JT if Tate won the job. I mean Haskins must have looked phemominal in practice throwing if JT looked great in practices. If anyone should have been pissed about playing time prior to the 17 season it was Haskin's. Meyer naming JT the starter shorly after 31-0 and before spring practice imo had to be frustrating. There's a chance we end up worse than 11-2 or better with Haskin's platooning with Barret with the chance of him being more than ready by the time november rolls around. I loved JT like most Buckeye's, jow could you not? Breaks his leg @ ttun and watches the rest of the game in the stands, lol. At the very least Haskin's should have got the start in the BTCG after Barret's injury. Meyer lost his edge a little after his surgery in 14. Do you really think Saban starts a guy 6 days removed from arthroscopic? With Haskin's OSU destroys wisconsin imo. So maybe Tate's attitude isn't as shocking as it looks. But to transfer without competing 1 semester from graduation, to sit out a year? WTF? I wish him luck as i shake my head on the decision.

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awlinBrutus's picture

I think eclectic is the word i was looking for. Had to be tough being faraway from home. Wanted to see him get a shot. When he committed he mentioned he wanted to compete and get better and he knew how deep we were @ QB.

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DP71's picture

I wish Martell great success. Sorry he never got a chance to shine in Columbus but it seems as though this works out well for him, Fields, Baldwin, OSU and Miami. 

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tcm1968's picture

Is this news??? I remember back in the spring he was pouting because he thought he was going to be QB1 and it turned into a 2 man race between Burrow and Haskins and there was a sense at the time if Burrow stayed he would have gone elsewhere..... and didn't even almost not come to begin with??

And if he's allowed to play day 1 by the NCAA ( minus the grad thing) at Miami it will be a free for all on transfers... he has no business being cleared to play day 1 based on the current rules... none.. before last season for sure... now... nope..

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Extramedium's picture

Many players, including a couple.former OSU players have been granted waivers for far less

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tcm1968's picture

Who?  Williams got a hardship waiver to go home... Jack Wolabaugh worked on his waiver with OSU and Duke.../... neither of those dudes got upset they weren't the starter and decided to bolt.. it was a well thought out process and they transferred the right way...

It's been well reported Tate thought Haskins was going pro and he was going to be slotted in at QB1... when he had his interview with Coach Day he was told there wasn't a QB1... it was an open competition..... and that set him on his way to transfer... it's not about coaches or coaching changes... he didn't want to compete and thought Baldwin and Fields should be battling for HIS job.... when that wasn't the case... greener pastures... 

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Hemi14's picture

Neither does Justin Fields.  He remained at Georgia the entire season, long after the racial slur. His sister is still enrolled and playing softball. Fields left Georgia because he wasn’t the starter. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. Yet, let’s play the race card for a free pass.  

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GlassCityBuckeyes's picture

He should of stuck it out and grad transfered. Will take that scholarship though. What a bone head.

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tcm1968's picture

He's either got parents giving him horrible advice or he's taking his own terrible advice.. could not have handled this any worse... 

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kmp10's picture

What a bone head

Arrogant? Yes. Cocky? Absolutely. Petulant? Sure... but Bonehead? He's on track to graduate from a four year university, while playing major college football, in 2.5 years. He's lots of things, but stupid clearly isn't one of them. 

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Desymond's picture

Didn't he major in communications? It's not like the dude got an engineering degree. Sure he took care of business, but he could still be a bonehead. 

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GlassCityBuckeyes's picture

I never said stupid but that' was a bonehead decision. Could of got a degree from Ohio St which is allot better then a degree from Miami. And played ball this fall as a grad. Now he's most likely sitting a year and has no degree. And who knows maybe he even wins the job at Ohio St this season. Should of followed Burrows footsteps. Come in see how things play out and if it ain't looking good take your degree and go play ball elsewhere.

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SEQUOIA473's picture

Miami is actually a good school and rated a few spots ahead of tOSU by US News. (It is a small private school and not a public U.) We assume it’s a shit school because of the reputation with their football. As far as Tate, I would have sucked it up and graduated and then left. He’s leaving his future up to others by not doing that and that’s a poor choice. 

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kmp10's picture

Correct. Miami is a well-heeled private university with a very good academic reputation. It pains me to say that, because I despise 'The U' like no other program not named ttun, but it's true. Specific to communications Vs engineering or any other degree path, that isn't the point at all. Let me give you the benefit of some experience as a much older member of this community... aside from very specific degree paths (teaching/education/nursing as examples), the thing that matters most to companies hiring young people is not what their particular degree is in, rather it's that they had the stick-to-itiveness and the persistence to set a goal and to see it through. Sure, if you want to be an architect then you have to get a degree in architecture. If, however, you want to go into business in America then a communications degree, or a history degree, or a marketing degree (what I earned) is not what's important, only that you have a degree, proving to those doing the hiring that you're at least someone who has the fortitude to attain something that still escapes the majority of Americans. If you want to sell pharmaceuticals, for example, the sales manager hiring you doesn't give one rip whether you have a B.A., a B.F.A., or a B.S., he only cares that you have that piece of paper in hand to get you in the door, because he's going to teach you what he thinks you need to know to make lots of money selling drugs to doctors. Anybody, and I mean anybody, who has what it takes to obtain a four year degree within 2.5 years is a guy companies will want to talk to... especially if that guy also played major college football at a program like Ohio State. It's impressive, and that it's a communications degree doesn't make it any less impressive. 

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SwingGuru's picture

Ok, you rambled on and on about what makes a good degree... sorry this guy majored in Communications, and it's not like we are talking about a Mike Lanese here.  Maybe you are of the emotional intelligence camp and how that is just as important as the standard IQ test intelligence, or maybe you majored in Communications too, but we aren't talking rocket science here.  Whatever makes you feel better, but the reality is this has nothing to do with his degree, the kid is a football player and wanted to play football.  None of us know anything about his intelligence here, I don't and you don't, and its not relevant. 

But in life degree choice is a relevant decision and often indicative of intellectual prowess.

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PhillyNut's picture

You can be book smart and life stupid.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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Extramedium's picture

Except he's not on track because he left

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libera's picture

My take on the slang term bonehead does not mean stupid as in low IQ but dumb in making bad decisions: "Can't believe he paid that much money for that clunker. What a bonehead."  'He was told not to drive after having that much to drink. What a bonehead for getting a DUI." 

libera

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

Entitled little prick that took his ball to warmer weather! Jeron Williams will beat him out in Miami for fun!! Book it!!!

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rblackbu's picture

Stunned to hear he was ready to transfer in 2018. OSU needs to recruit more Kenny Guiton’s every other year...loyal, great teammates and are willing to grow with the program. Good luck Tate, enjoy cupping your farts in Miami

"When you help someone up a hill, you get that much closer to the top yourself..."

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buckeye2012's picture

I don't know the kid but he sounds like an entitled diva.

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RC's picture

Looks like a couple of his family members, or fanboys, came here to downvote anything negative about him.

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allbucksallthetime's picture

Best wishes to Tate but it's well beyond time to move on.  Go Bucks!

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Homey1970's picture

Don’t like the way this whole transfer wave is going down.  Before long, the attorneys will be dragging all schools (including OSU) through the mud in order to make their immediate eligibility arguments.

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NOLABuckeye's picture

Right about that Homey.

Nothing cleanses the soul like a no call pass interference.

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BrutusIsMyHomeboy's picture

Yeah, the NCAA’s rules put the players in this position. If they allowed transfers when there is a coaching change they wouldn’t have to drag anyone.

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Seattle Linga's picture

These are tough decisions even at his young age. Hopefully he received wise counsel.

The off season bites !!

It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

OSU QBs cannot be spoiled entitled children.

"I find your lack of kalua disturbing" - Darth Lebowski

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MindSurfr's picture

Not familiar with his academics but my cousin took AP courses in high school and attended a community college while still in high school. He graduated in 1.5 calendar years. But he was not part of an athletic program. So its totally possible. Just not sure if he had the time with football. 

But it sounds like his lawyer is openly admitting, there is no legit reason, i'm just throwing things against the wall and hope someone at NCAA likes one of my many possible reasons.

Not saying Tate did this or it applies to Tate but... it sounds like the lawyers is saying if you are an ass/jerk and make yourself unlikable because you treat others poorly, you can say "see, everyone hates me here, i need to be able to leave and play immediately". and that is a transferable justification. 

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Eddie27Zeke15's picture

Let the kid play.  It’s all good, my friends.

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Bucks19's picture

So anyone can just leave and be eligible?

So a HC leaves and anyone can transfer and be eligible?

Not buying it.  It would be mass chaos. How about manning up and competing?

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Eddie27Zeke15's picture

I’m not in charge of the rules.  But if the powers that be decide to let him play, I’m game.

It’s easy to say “man up.”  But it’s his future, not mine.  So I’m content to let Tate do what he thinks he needs to do.

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BELLEFONTAINEBUCKEYE's picture

Or.......Talking a bunch of shit about maning up , then.....Tuck your short tail between your legs and head south!

IMADELOUSYPICKS

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I am Kirok's picture

To be fair Bucks19 he did have a coach say "I'm here for the long haul" "I plan on coaching" etc and then retire three months later. I hope he does get granted the waiver if only so he doesn't make up a bunch of shit about OSU that the media will take as gospel. 

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stpetebuck's picture

E27z15 ....you nailed it. 

The  multibillion dollar industry of NCAA football already has free employees, yeah let them play.

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LongIslandBuckeye's picture

Joe Burrow gave him the perfect blueprint on how he should've went about this...compete for the starting job, graduate, and if it doesn't go your way you're immediately eligible to start somewhere else next season. Plus no one would blame you... I don't think theirs a single buckeye fan who rooted against burrow this past season.

This doesn't make any sense to me if he was actually going to graduate this spring...

tOSU via LINY

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Bucks19's picture

I did. Was the most overrated player ever to not play at OSU. Didn’t do a thing here. 

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Mastro16's picture

I think he threw a few touchdowns, so he did something

Kirk Cousins on the other hand - now there might be the most overrated player ever to not play at OSU

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nmartucci's picture

Just feeling like this story is not adding up.  If he wanted to transfer due to Meyer retiring then why wasn't he in the transfer portal the day after the Rose Bowl?  It's clear to me that his decision to transfer hinged on whether Fields was coming to OSU.  Oh well, at any rate I wish nothing but the best for Tater Tot at the U!

NJM

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buckzilla1's picture

He wants to leave let him go. Best for him and the team. End of story. Good luck.

You never lose to those pricks. Ever. Ever. Urban Frank Meyer

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BPOSU's picture

Anyone else think his lawyer was tip toeing big time around mentioning the Zach Smith saga as potential ammunition?

Also I'm with everyone else... His decision not to stay and graduate and insure immediate eligiblity is a little confusing to say the least.

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Cptnvideo's picture

Kind of looks like he was no longer welcome in the locker room. And maybe his tweets had something to do with that. Just a guess on my part.

My favorite team? Whoever is playing TTUN.

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JT Buckeye's picture

I kinda wonder this too.  I remember seeing a comment thread on a different story/forum post that talked about how no OSU teammates congratulated him or anything, except for a couple well wishes on instagram.  Someone feel free to expand on this if you have more info..

*Sipping the Buckeye Kool-Aid since 1995

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

TOS Boarding House reported that he was not on schedule to graduate in May.  I’d heard the same, but saying he was helps the narrative.

Yeah I know what the lawyer said, lawyers say a whole lot of things; Lol!

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Lighteyes's picture

Oh yeah. His lawyer is absolutely playing that card. Something along the lines of this (albeit in a much longer and more dryly lawyer phrasing):

When Tate chose to stay at Ohio State after last spring, Urban assured Tate he'd be coaching here for at least a couple years and Tate would be the successor to Dwayne Haskins. Urban knew he was covering up for a domestic abusing scum that could lead to the end of his coaching career, but kept that a secret. Also, Urban knew he had a cyst in his brain that could end his coaching career, but he never told Tate that. The coaches lied to Tate; if they'd been honest about Urban potentially leaving, Tate would have transferred sooner.

Who knows if that'll be successful or not, but the NCAA has said many times that "coach leaves" is not sufficient justification for waivers, so the lawyer is going to want something else to push on.

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TigerSweat's picture

Crazy that they went our of their way to lie in an attempt to keep a QB that was never going to start for OSU. Urban may have hoped he would develop as a passer but he didn't

Urban Meyer >Jim Harbaugh for ever and ever, Amen. 0

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PhillyNut's picture

Attorney and being fair to everyone - completely mutually exclusive.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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GunnerBuck's picture

Still find it hard to believe he was on track to graduate in 2.5 years...

"Come on, you sons of b!tches! Do you want to live forever?" -- Dan Daly, WWI

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Bucks19's picture

Enough of Tate!!! Please!! Was Burrow now Tate. Both are GOOOOOOONE 

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tampatom's picture

Not sure what to believe anymore, his problem is if he does not make it to NFL what is plan B, Dealer at Casino? He could have waited to see what happened with Fields and even transferred as graduate but he chose to screw OSU and it is what it is so he needs to live with it

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Buckeyebobby1968's picture

NCAA is going to open up Pandora's box if they start granting waivers for things like not getting enough playing time or coaching changes or having fans saying mean things. They need to start cracking down on this before it gets out of control. Ten years ago, a player would simply accept the process and sit out a year. Now this kids are getting lawyered up today. 

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harync's picture

I wonder if this helps Field’s case in an indirect way. The NCAA will point to the racial issues and say that is a valid reason to transfer. Then they will reject Martell’s as a way of showing that they are not just going to approve every transfer and clamp down on this before it gets out of hand.

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

Coaching turnover? Wasn’t Day his coach most of his time at Ohio State? Martell was upset that the zone read wasn’t going to remain a part of the the offense so he knew at that point he had little chance to start. 

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teddyballgame's picture

Not sure if I'm really feeling this whole player mobility movement.  Have a feeling there's going to be a lot of unintended consequences.  Coaches are about to get a lot busier at the end of every season now with having to re-recruit the roster.

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

I respect your opinion Teddy, but I really don’t have a problem with immediate eligibllity when you got million dollar coaches leaving like 40 going West, before and after the Bowl season.

You got guys recruiting guys to sign, and then leave to better the lives of their families, etc.  Rhetorically speaking, why is it only a concern when the players do what they think is in their best interest.

I’m sorry, that they’re getting a “free education” doesn’t do it for me as an explanation.

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teddyballgame's picture

There's some definite hypocrisy in the system for sure.  I think it's been the case lately that if a head coach departs then the current year's recruits (even those who have recently signed) are let out of their commitments.  Honestly, you can't really predict what any coach is going to do so it's wise to pick the school and football program that you're comfortable with for the long haul.  There's potential for major talent drain if you let anyone just hop to a new school when a head coaching change is made.  While the school is looking to make the next hire you can bet the Saban's and Dabo's of the world will be headhunting and recruiting that team's best players.  Hopefully a reasonable balance can be found with proper regulation to keep things from getting out of control while allowing sensible moves.

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BrutusIsMyHomeboy's picture

I agree with those concerns but I think the solution is to restrict the coaches/programs (somehow), not the players. The players have the least amount of power in this broken system.

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BUCKAROOTIMESTWO's picture

Agreed Brutus w/ re: to broken system and the players having the least power, although they risk the most.

And the ole’ “they get a free education” stance is never going to do it for me, as if that’s enough that they should just be “thankful” and have no say so!

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rdalchemy's picture

If OSU fails to get into the playoff they'll get Miami in a bowl game.

Zbuddha

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Kernfan's picture

Looking at articles on other players, it doesn't look that unlikely to get a hardship waiver, at least from some of the articles I was reading when Fields was deciding.  Tate's family can afford a good lawyer.  Still wish he had competed here this spring, but its his decision so just worrying about who's here and if OSU picks up a grad transfer or juco on NSD.

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buckeyenut74's picture

I’ll forever believe what I’m about to say....” he can’t handle competition and I don’t think he handles adversity well.”

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Hovenaut's picture

Kudos to 11W Alum Kyle Rowland with the scoop.

Hindsight is, and in, 2020

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EDUGOON's picture

Tate didn’t want the smoke, so he bailed to The U and now trying to seek immediate eligibility. It would have been super lonely going through the Spring by yourself after shooting your mouth off about being the next QB at the OSU. Does anyone know how his teammates felt about his comments? Then him ghosting out the back door? His back and forth created a situation that he couldn’t return too period. Had he just shut his mouth he would have gotten Burrow level of love walking out of here, but his ego just couldn’t do it.

#FieldsDay #GoBucks

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Martell was on track to graduate from Ohio State this spring, Rowland reports, which would have made him a graduate transfer candidate and guaranteed him immediate eligibility at his transfer destination.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Nikkibucksfan's picture

Coaching changes do happen. Urban retired for now and that left Tate without hopes of getting playing time. So , I guess that’s an idea to go with. Nobody did anything to him, his feelings were hurt. Give this boy his eligibility and a pacifier so he can become a star in Miami...no harm. I don’t want to see OSU dragged thru the mud again...Enough is enough 

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Kujo247's picture

Why are we writing articles about a guy that's no longer in the program and didn't want to be prior to fall practice?  He's not even a starter who's now leaving.  Hey, 11 Warriors, let's move on to people we care about.

Nothing is too difficult for the person that doesn't have to do it.

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countrybuckeye's picture

like, yeah

I saw somewhere a great kid got his offer from some program, so he can put those on notice at the high school he will attend in two years time 

thats what we’re talkin’ about!

“Save yourself and relax during every game. I recommend a fine bourbon.”

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Buckeyeincleveburg's picture

There are almost a hundred comments on this article in just over an hour .. so I think 11W readers do care about this topic, for now anyway.

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CALPOPPY's picture

Why are we writing articles about a guy that's no longer in the program and didn't want to be prior to fall practice? 

For starters, it’s news that Tate wanted to transfer before fall practice. That new information that hadn’t been shared in the media. I think it’s fair to share.

Memento mori

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AZ Buckeye13's picture

That could have been the reason that the coaching staff put in some "packages" for Martell. I, for one, was not too thrilled to see us return to a zone read offense.

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CALPOPPY's picture

I, for one, was not too thrilled to see us return to a zone read offense.

Honestly, with the way that Haskins was running during the middle of the year, looking like C3PO, I was happy to have someone else near the goal line. However, they never appeared to have the threat of a pass so it was ineffective.

But then Haskins ran better after the Purdue abomination. Either he finally got it himself, or the coaches stressed it to him and he got it, because we were horrendous in red zone that night, and he was better from there on out.

Memento mori

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Tony Stark's picture

Respectfully Kujo, if you don't want to read articles like this, don't read articles like this.

That said, this article does concern OSU football as opposed to just a former player.  There could be issues as to the reasons for any transfer, which some readers would find interesting.  Also, some readers like to stay abreast on information or the basis for any transfers granted by the NCAA as that would affect OSU in the future. Also, being informed leads to better forum posts. :)

Tony Stark

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Kujo247's picture

Sorry for having an opinion and voicing…just like you did.

Nothing is too difficult for the person that doesn't have to do it.

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buckeyeleafe1's picture

Nice cover up!! Do they look at tweets? they should! It seemed to me that he saw him comming and bolted.  Or lets give him the benifit of the doubt and say that was the case of a coaching change.  What was he trying to do? Was he trying to tare down the program? I hope him the best.  It seems like he is trying to gain the right to play right away.  Good luck to him...he is just trying to figure it out. 

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Bourbon Meyer's picture

I hope a Clemson linebacker decapitates him and little Tate’s head is rolling on the colored turf. Buckeye Grove salutes you, just like it does Nick Bosa. #Buckeyeforlife

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BrutusIsMyHomeboy's picture

C’mon man! It’s not that bad.

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Five-One-Three's picture

So much to unpack with this embarrassingly trash comment from a seemingly terrible human being...

One. Nick Bosa has a tree in Buckeye Grove, and I'd take 1,000 Nick Bosa over just 1 of your disgusting ilk.

Two. Wishing violence on a kid just because he transferred away is one of the most vile things I've ever seen. We have an early front runner for worst fan in America.

Three. The world would be better off without people like you, as would this team and website. Consider how your life became so pathetic that you ended up this way and fix it... You're disgusting

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buckinkentuck's picture

Was the original comment trashy? Yes.

Was your comment trashy? Yes.

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Five-One-Three's picture

Congrats on adding nothing to the conversation, thanks for wasting everyone's time with nothing. Keep defending people that wish death on 20 year Olds... The nerve of you to pretend your somehow not trash lol

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Five-One-Three's picture

People like you are the exact reason people point to the 11W commenters as an example of the worst in college football everywhere else on the internet... This site needs to purge its trash in the worst way

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CALPOPPY's picture

People like you are the exact reason people point to the 11W commenters as an example of the worst in college football everywhere else on the internet... This site needs to purge its trash in the worst way

I get that we have posts from time to time that might be shitty. But for anyone to point to 11W as an example of the worst in college sports? Get real. That is a complete joke.

Yes, we have some shitty fans, but in watching this site for the past 8 years, with 4+ as moderator, it is not the worst in college sites and far from it. Now, the site works to keep it that way through some policing action on behalf of the commentariat, the MODs, and the staff, but we still allow  outlandish and hot takes. However, I see takes just as crazy, hot or worse on many, many, many other college sites. And anyone can do their part to help downvote the comments, which usually happens in cases like this. My guess is that it gets grayed out by tomorrow. That's negative e reinforcement for the commenter, and is helpful for the site.

Personally, I don't like tearing down any specific student-athlete transfer, but your statement is just as hyperbolic as those that are so loudly criticizing this specific transfer.

Plus, I would like to know where exactly other sites have criticized 11W commenters as the worst on the internet. I haven't seen it but I also admit that I'm not on many other sports sites simply due to lack of time or lack of interest.

Memento mori

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Five-One-Three's picture

The articles on this site are amazing, the forums and commenting community are a cess pool of disgusting people that is mocked relentlessly.

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Fatpants's picture

I heard a certain quote once. Something about when you point fingers there ends up being more pointed back at you. Can't remember it exactly.

Oh well.

 

PG <3 PG

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CALPOPPY's picture

The articles on this site are amazing, the forums and commenting community are a cess pool of disgusting people that is mocked relentlessly.

Again, who is mocking the commenting community relentlessly? True question. Can you give examples?

The community is not a cess pool of disgusting people. Generally, the community is tight, caring, and genuinely nice. There are assholes everywhere and this is to be expected on the internet (especially with anonymous users), but 11W community is nicer and more respectful than others that I know, especially for the size.

Memento mori

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Kwanblaze's picture

Hmmm... has there ever been a reported case of a quarterback getting hit so hard by a Clemson linebacker that his head pops off and flies into the 13th row? No? I really didn't take it that seriously, but I could be in the minority.

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

No, but I do remember Jalen Marshall looking like a Pez dispenser in the Sugar Bowl against Bama. His helmet must’ve come off three or four times in that game from hits. 

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott

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Five-One-Three's picture

Calling for any player to be injured is trashy as fuck, calling for someone to be injured because they transferred is even more trashy. But then again this site is filled with trashy people from what I've seen over almost a decade so what am I to expect.

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aboynamedtracy's picture

Whenever someone crawls out of hibernation frothing at the mouth, I like to look at commenting history to see what the person is all about. This is my favorite of yours circa July 2015, which was the last time you actively commented before this tirade:

'Is there no way to delete an 11w account? this place is too hypersensitive for me'

Isn't it ironic?

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buckinkentuck's picture

You called someone trash, a terrible human being, and said the world would be better without them. 

I, however, said your comment was trashy. I criticized your comment, not you as a person. Big difference. 

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CALPOPPY's picture

Calling for any player to be injured is trashy as fuck, calling for someone to be injured because they transferred is even more trashy. But then again this site is filled with trashy people from what I've seen over almost a decade so what am I to expect.

Please just stop.

Calling for a player to be injured is trashy. I agree. But then you go to far. Please stop.

Memento mori

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BTBuckeye's picture

Good luck man. Whatever. Go bucks

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Port Richey Buckeye's picture

Don't need him we are stacked at running back. Apparently Thug U was in need of one though. Buh bye Felicia.

Fuck eSECpn and fuck Mythigan.

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sharks's picture

"...You try to throw as much against the wall as you can. ..."

Fuckin Lionel Hutz over here

As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster...

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Cooper's picture

I’ve grown tired of the boy who cried wolf games he has played and continues to play. Threatening to transfer every time you’re not guaranteed a starting position is kind of petulant. Coupled with his attempted manipulation of Justin Fields during interviews, it’s obvious Tate likes to play mind games with people. It’s best he moved on, a team with championship aspirations honestly doesn’t need that sort of attitude.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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buckeyeinWI's picture

Tate Martell leaves.

Justin Fields comes on board.

fair trade...

GO BUCKEYES!

15-1 is SWEET!

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NoVAsmitty's picture

I think he gets the waiver, not that I agree.  tOSU won’t oppose the waiver. Unless his lawyer publicizes Tate’s argument, which this guy appears willing to do or Tate/parents do so, we’ll probably never know Tate’s position. Why publicize the basis for the request if tOSU doesn’t oppose it?  Would just put them in a very bad, vindictive light and doesn’t do anything to help get Tate immediate eligibility. 

Sounds like this kid thought he should start over Haskins back in August. That’s just laughable. I’m not going to waste my time posting about this idiot anymore. I’ve wasted enough. Good riddance. 

“I intend to make Georgia howl.” General William Tecumseh Sherman

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TDXpress's picture

Interesting article on ESPN.com tonight on Tate's arrival this afternoon in Miami . Personally, I believe in Coach Days offense that both Justin Fields & Matthew Baldwin would have been 1/2 this year. The Zone Read offense of Coach Meyer was tailored made for Tate, but things have changed . Lets move on ! Go Bucks !!!

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Arizona_Buckeye's picture

Well - Fields better get his eligibility this year, pick up the offense quickly, and not get injured because we are fucking thin as thin can be in that QB room.  The other 10 guys on that team better be stepping up and kicking ass because we also have very little on the field experience either!  

The best thing about Pastafarianism? It is not only acceptable, but advisable, to be heavily sauced

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buckeyechick24's picture

From just reading this bit it seems like he wanted to transfer in the fall due to not winning the starting qb position than Meyer’s retirement which was not even announced until towards the end of the season. 

Go Bucks!

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osu992's picture

Urban wanted him, Day doesn't. Of course the coaching change factors in.

New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.

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buckeyepastor's picture

What a load of crap. I am done with this kid.  Runs his mouth about being the best, and then turns tail and runs.  Cries that he has endured a hardship because of “coaching turnover” even though the offensive staff has made exactly one change, and the guy who is no longer the offensive coach is now the head coach.  And he is carrying off his distraught, triggered self to the stable confines of Miami - a program that is such a hot mess that the AD issued a public apology for their performance and then their head coach decided to get the heck outta there.  He was traumatized by OSU’s instability?  Please!  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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allinosu's picture

I don't agree with him running his mouth but the head coaching change kills his chances at QB since Day is not in favor of read offense as much as Urban. Tate showed he could throw early but Day handcuffed that option later in the season. We are all making conclusions without all the facts and should wish him luck and let him go in peace no matter how disappointed we are with him. He didn't do anything to us personally though reading through the comments, it appears many think he did. Perspective.

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Woody&#039;s Ghost's picture

Tate's lawyer is a complete moron. Laying out his entire case in the media??? ...Where did he find this guy?

The NCAA is kicking its chops at this point.

I say this with the caveat that I don't hate Tate for leaving. He saw the writing on the wall and wanted an opportunity to showcase his talents that he would not have gotten here. No sour grapes from me there. -- But where did he find this moron of a lawyer?

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium."

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Arsenal7's picture

spoiled fucking brat lmao good riddance

also this lawyer is a dipshit

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CowCat's picture

There are two kinds of people that react to being punched in the face. Those that fight back and those that run.

Talk is cheap. Even with Haskins leaving he chose to run. Good luck with that, Miami.

Plus, he had a chance to get a degree from a premier university by playing through the spring and be eligible for a graduate transfer. None of this makes sense. Hint, hint: Tate you're not playing in the NFL, if you're not a HB.

"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer

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Scarlet O-H's picture

I'm not trying to question the credibility of Kyle Rowland but I don't follow his story.  Tate was late to fall camp.  Okay.  There could be a dozen different reasons why he was late.  I can't make the connection between being a day late to camp and Tate's desire to transfer.  And not just a wish to transfer, but such a strong wish that the coaches knew about it and had to talk him out of it.  I wish Kyle would have filled in the details a bit more, like explain why Tate was late.  Or am I missing something obvious?  Is there more to the story that was reported at a different time? 

"Your focus determines your reality."

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Urbanbuck's picture

Keep in mind this kid was HOTLY pursued by Meyer - was talked into coming to OSU over other high profile positions - he put in the work, competed and lost to Dwayne and stayed strong and supportive, we've all seen the sideline videos of his involvement with the team, congratulating players, and his social media support for Haskins in pursuit of the Heisman speaks for itself.

Keep in mind he is basically the same height as Murray and Bradford, and was a true legend at the high school level playing what was regarded as the toughest schedule in the country. 

I can't fault the kid for having an ego - he earned it. 

What I can do is puzzle over WTH happened in the time between the Rose Bowl and his sudden transfer that so embittered him and left him severing his relationships with the program and his former teammates.

I am not ready to simply blame it all on this kid. Shit happens, something probably did here, I am sure it was complicated but the easy answer of throwing this kid under the bus is wrong.

Wahoo! Wahoo! Rip, Zip, Bazoo! I Yell. I Yell. For O.S.U.

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BucksHave7's picture

So Tate’s hardship is that the tOSU HC and some other coaches changed.  

Yet his solution is to go to a diff school with an entirely set of new coaches all who were never at tOSU?   Good luck. LOL 

BucksHave7

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NOBLUE's picture

why should't he get his waiver  ?? this whole transfer thing is a effing joke anyway ..his case is as good or if you will ridiculous as any others ...or should'n't he get it just because you all are hating on him...he's just a college kid trying to play football and had no chance of starting so he transferred ...BIG FUCKING DEAL...i think some of you are drama QUEENS and probably watch soap opera's too...haha

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BucksHave7's picture

Personality clashes =  Tate thought he should start and the coaches didnt?

BucksHave7

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OldColumbusTown's picture

More like = Tate thought he should be given the starting job and the coaches told him there will be an open competition.

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OH-IO's picture

Yo, Tweeting Tate, just go away and take the Percy Harvin role with you.

OH-IO living BACK IN COLUMBUS after 32 years in the ATL. 

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hetuck's picture

1. "Throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks." The word is shit. That statement has to be a red flag to the NCAA. He cites coaching change and goes to a school that just had a coaching change. On the other hand, I don't think OSU contests. 

2. Grad transfer would have been interesting. Unless it was oceanography, I doubt if Martell could find a program OSU doesn't offer. Burrow was lucky LSU offers the equivalent of general studies at the graduate level. 

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

Vince Lombardi

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WezBuck28's picture

Personally, I think it's just an excuse..

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gobucks96's picture

He is risking the shot at playing next year by not waiting until he graduated. That's not the kinda move that shows good decision making skills.

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Eph97's picture

I hope the NCAA denies him and then I hope he sues them and wins to end the whole system so that players can leave without sitting out a year.  I suspect the threat of a lawsuit has the NCAA terrified because forcing a player to sit out a year has no justification beyond selfish ones for the team. Other sports don't require players to sit out a year, so the NCAA will definitely lose a lawsuit.

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Sanitarian2's picture

Yeah, the NCAA has a history of losing lawsuits.

Sani

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

It really shows how much of an emotional, and not likely well thought-out decision it was that Tathan made...

I mean, he could've come to camp, competed, and may have won the starting job against Fields, could've been 50/50, maybe it was 60/40 in favor of fields, maybe it was as far as 80/20 in favor of Fields, but regardless, Tathan would've seen the field this year even if he hadn't been named the starter.

Now, if he isn't given a waiver (can't see why he would be), he'll sit for a year, burn a year of eligibility, and have 1 year to play and prove himself. Had he just graduated this year, he would still have his RS junior and RS senior years available if he desired a transfer at that point.

Missed opportunity on his part for sure.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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buckeyepastor's picture

Or, possibly this scenario - Martell chooses to stay and compete (and apparently he could have graduated in the spring and left if he felt like it and be eligible as a grad transfer).  Fields loses his appeal, and Martell is the man at least for the year.  Then, as an OSU grad, he transfers after 2019.  

There is a decent chance that Fields and Martell are both ineligible this fall.  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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Mips19's picture

Just my opinion, which doesn’t matter, but it seems like the smart thing would have been graduate and compete with Baldwin and probably Fields and if you don’t get the job then transfer.  Joe Borrow did it that way and it worked out, why take the risk when you may have been starting.  Anyway best of luck at the U they need a good QB and I hope he does great, he would have under Meyer, but I don’t think he would have played much under Day.

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Mips19's picture

Hopefully he struggles early loses a couple but gets good enough to knock off clemson.  Clemson needs to go back to Clemsoning,  Georgiaing just doesn’t sound right.

I ❤️ Harbaugh

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tjshaffe's picture

TATE MARTELL CONSIDERED TRANSFER BEFORE THE 2018 SEASON, ATTORNEY SAYS COACHING TURNOVER PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN TRANSFER DECISION, PER REPORT

Tate Martell considered transfer before the 2018 due to the fact he was not named starter.  Martell to sit again in 2019, so attorney spins the story and says coaching turnover played a major role in transfer.  

Best of luck at the U. Moving on.. 

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redwoodz's picture

Just let Tate play right away. Yes he’s young and kinda stupid but Urban leaving left him in a bad spot.

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bucknutz18's picture

Not gonna join the Tate bashing train, kid wants to play and I can't blame him.  What is truly shocking to me is he almost transferred over the summer.  Did he honestly think he was better than Dwayne and should've started over him?  Pure delusion if so.  

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Best for everyone at OSU that Tate is gone. But Mr. Lawyer...Tate almost left after the spring game when Haskins was named starting QB. That was under Meyer. So now you are going to use a coaching change as your reason to play right away? 

Seems pretty easy to see that Tate was not happy with Meyer enough to not report to camp. now he is using the fact meyer left as his reason? Can't have it both ways Martell. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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MiamiBuckeye's picture

Lots of DVs in this thread, which I find shocking. How can Tate still have fans on this forum? I understand those who aren't interested in bashing him, but defending him at this point is an entirely different matter. I've said it before--Ohio State fans owe him absolutely nothing considering his entire contribution to Buckeye nation consisted of lots of hype, one really good passing sequence against Rutgers in garbage time, a bunch of failed read options in the red zone, and some Twitter drama. 

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

He just reeks of entitlement. From the way he acted on QB 1, to wanting to quit because Haskins won the job, to the false bravado at the Rose Bowl, to trolling Fields on Twitter and in the Atlanta newspaper, to being upset with Day when Day wouldn't name him the starter after the Rose Bowl and told Tate he had to compete for an open job, to tucking tail and running away. 

I have no sympathy for a less than team player. I am glad he is gone. He would have been a problem. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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Poison nuts's picture

Problem is, he guaranteed he'd  be back & win the QB job after Urban retired. So he knew of the coaching change & said he'd be there & win the job. 100%. That will come up in this & may be the deciding factor.

Get busy living.

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MiamiBuckeye's picture

This is a good point. I think the timeline of events and statements really doesn't line up in Tate's favor and pokes holes in the narrative he and his lawyer are trying to sell. 

"porque las estirpes condenadas a cien años de soledad no tenían una segunda oportunidad sobre la tierra."

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5thGradeTetherballChamp's picture

I think he lost respect in the locker room after his comments towards Fields pre-transfer, and couple that with Day's pass-first offense I think he saw the writing on the wall that he wasn't going to start again this year. Regardless of any "promises" that may have been allegedly made by now former coaches.

Dude's arm wasn't nearly as strong or accurate as Haskins based on what I saw during the spring game, and the fact that we didn't see much passing from him in the game snaps he played speaks volumes as to the coach's confidence in his passing ability. Good athlete but a less than average passer, IMHO.

Nothing that comes easy is worth a dime.

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BuckeyeCrusdader's picture

If Urban was talking to Tathan at the start of fall camp did that violate his suspension?

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Brooksie's picture

Given all that has come out - I cannot think of any situation other than a clean break between Tate and OSU that benefits anyone.

It is what it is.

Bucks Fan since 1970

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BuckeyeAsylum's picture

This will be the last article regarding Tate, right? Because honestly, it's over. He wanted to leave, was retained. This time he left. He hasn't done anything meaningful in this program to care about. Not bashing anyone here, I know you gotta report, but I am hoping this isn't going to drag through the off season, because ultimately does anyone really care anymore? He found somewhere for him and we are without him, so that should be the end. Good luck, whose our guy for fall?

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Chewbucca's picture

Quarterbacking at Miami: So easy a caveman can do it.

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esap153's picture

I don't get why Tathan didn't just stay through spring ball, try to compete for the job, graduate then move on as a graduate transfer...

Let's be honest, he isn't leaving due to coaching change, this kid was praising Ryan Day for his development as a QB, knew who his coach was gonna be as soon as Urban Meyer stepped down. If his transfer was because of the coaching change, why didn't he enter the transfer portal immediately after Meyer stepped down, even if it's just to explore other options?

He in fact stated prior to the rose bowl that he was going to be here in 2019 and he was gonna win the job, well after Ryan Day was announced as head coach, so I don't know, this just seems like a very emotional decision and really just plain stupid. I mean, much smarter to be a graduate transfer, he likely could still win the job at Miami even if he doesn't get there until fall camp...

Well now I guess the real question is did we as Buckeyes fans, really want someone like this as the starting QB anyway? I don't mean to be so critical, but being the head guy on offense is a heavy responsibility, especially when you're at Ohio State and under the perpetual microscope of media scrutiny. It's not a job for the entitled, you have to be on your guard, behave in public, on Twitter - all while ignoring the critics and national pundits who question poor performance, etcetera.

I do know one thing, I couldn't ever handle that, especially as a young man, 18-21! Takes a certain breed.

I wish Tathan the best, would've loved to see him compete for the job, then transfer but it's his life, his career.

Seattle Buckeye, Green Tony

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esap153's picture

One thing I will say in the players defense, it is a stupid policy that transfers have to sit out a year, I mean coaching changes happen all the time, especially at a place like Ohio State, where coordinators get hired as head coaches when they have a good season or two, and that's usually who players are involved with the most, so kind of lame that coaches can leave lickity split, but players have to wait...

I guess they just don't want a bunch of transfers by young guys who don't know what they want to do, or change their minds, hopping from team to team. I could imagine if there was no penalty for transfers in football it could turn into a shitshow

Seattle Buckeye, Green Tony

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