Sweet. Eat shit ESPN.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
"I think Alabama would beat Ohio State if they played next weekend!" Clay Travis Fox Sports Post Championship Show 1.12.2015. Needs no explanation.
His cyst must not be causing hom trouble all of the sudden. He ‘retired’, but now has two jobs.
His two new jobs combined are 1/50th stress of being the HC at Ohio State
"You can never pay back, but you can always pay forward."
I would say the stress is more than that....seriously a downvote for that? Look how much he grayed.
How many alcoholics do you know? It’s the same concept. He has been a coach his whole life. No one can expect anyone to go cold turkey. They just cut back a bit at a time. It’s clinically proven to be more successful and actually less stressful. Let’s cut him some slack.
Was thinking the same thing Rill Dill. When anyone trys to keep it real on these boards, they'll get some flak. Comes with the territory...
It's not keeping it real...it's a bad take.
Urban needs to avoid the stress, or he gets headaches. It's not like he needs to sit on his ass all the time and never leave his house. Being an analyst, getting to basically sit around, watch football all day, talk about it, for x number of Saturdays per year...sounds like a nice, low stress gig to me. So, yeah, I'm sure he can handle that job while being the head coach at Ohio State is not such a good idea.
Class of 2010.
Well, we can agree to disagree. UM seems to conveniently have a health concern when he wants to exit a coaching position. I'm not a physician and am not qualified to ascribe the level of discomfort he faces daily or if at all, but I believe if the Zach Smith scandal had been managed more properly he would likely still be coaching. It's naive to believe everything people, even football coaches, say to the media.
No, I think most people agree that this is a bad take. Seriously, did you not watch any games this past season? If you did, and it wasn't obvious to you that Urban was in physical pain, you weren't paying attention.
“The best executive is the one who has sense enough to pick good men to do what he wants done, and self-restraint enough to keep from meddling with them while they do it.” – Theodore Roosevelt
I was paying attention and what I saw was a defense that was falling apart and I'm sure that caused anxiety and may have led to headache symptoms. Again, I'm not a physician, but this will be the second time that "health issues" caused him to leave a program and I'm pretty sure he will coach again. Hunting dogs, hunt! I'm not saying that I dislike the man for how he changes course at times, I just don't want to be fed puppies, rainbows and sunshine when at least part of the reason why he left is because of how poorly Micheal Drake handled the ZS scandal. Again, we can agree to disagree.
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I’d rather he went to ESPN. We have enough representatives at FOX already. We need a positive voice on ESPN to bolster us on that platform.
It's not like the personalities at ESPN get to voice their actual opinions.. they get their marching orders and bullet points just like they do at Fox news or MSNBC.
Careful, CincyBuck may be lurking.
1) My name is CincyOSU
2) Why would I care? This is good news.
No, not you, CincyOSU. I’m talking about CincyBuck!
JK. It’s all in good fun, Cincy. Always appreciate your points of you. BTW, I knew it wasn’t CincyBuck but I couldn’t remember what it was off the top of my head for the purposes of the joke. Have a good one my fellow Warrior.
He knew he was leaving when they suspended him. Watching him during the press conference it was obvious he was simply going through the motions and gritting his teeth thinking "I'm so out of here, this clown/president doesn't want me here I will go anywhere in the country except Clemson or Alabama and demand the salary I want." He had to play the politically correct game for a few months while he planned his exit and will now sit for a year before his next eight-million a year coaching job. An unheard of 83 and 9 record--any school in the country will roll out the red carpet and kiss his ass from one end of campus to the other. Ohio State and the clown president Michael Drake suspends arguably the best coach in the country and expects him to stick around. Seriously? Urban Meyer does NOT have to put up with that bullshit, he played the politically correct game for a few months so another school would not face the completely unjustified wrath of the #metoo movement and told Drake to kiss his ass. He's Urban F'n Meyer, he calls the shots, not Michael Drake!
Well put! They treated him like a child and catered the media (which is absolutely out of control these days) instead of handling the whole charade properly.
Quite the take. Not gonna happen.
Replace this BTN tool for Urban Meyer!
Urban needs to be added to the playoff committee!
TG Proud Buckeye alumnus.
Can an athletic director be a TV analyst also? Is that not happening?
I would imagine if he takes the TV gig his title/job would need to be re-worked... you can't do both.. still think it makes more sense for him to be in the Archie Griffin raising money mode... which I assume he could do both roles.. Any kind of AD and TV would be a non-starter..
Many years ago, Arkansas AD Frank Broyles worked as an analyst for ABC. Before that he was the Head Football coach for the Razorbacks.
I don't give a damn for the whole state of Xichigan.
Before there were dedicated color analysts for the college game of the week, it wasn’t unheard of for an active coach to be in the booth for a big, late season game.
There’s at least one OSU-Michigan game I remember where JoPa was in the booth. Late ‘70’s or early ‘80’s. You can find it on YouTube.
"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
- Stuart Scott
Woody did color for ND-USC when Anthony Davis scored four TDs.
Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.
Wait, give me those facts. What year? I have to watch this.
1972. IIRC, USC returned two kickoffs for TDs. After the second, Woody was silent for a long time. When he played USC in the Rose Bowl, they tried to pooch kick, but didn't get it deep enough & gave USC possession at about the 40 yd. line. That was the first pooch kick I remember seeing.
That game was also notorious for Ara saying he'd had a guy on a horse ride back and forth behind the bench at ND's practice. John McKay responded by saying he'd have a short guy hop around the following season.
Yes, NavyB. Joe P was definitely the commentator for the Ohio State-Michigan game in ‘74.
It would just be short term until the ND job opens up...
Wahoo! Wahoo! Rip, Zip, Bazoo! I Yell. I Yell. For O.S.U.
11 inches of snow and sub freezing temps this weekend, Shelley will be working overtime sending out resumes.
Sub freezing? You've been in Carolina too long. Try sub-zero.
When he does, will you be asking to change your username? UrbanIrish appears to be open.
Only a matter of time before that man is on the sidelines again.
If it happens, good for him. That's where his heart is, not in a booth or an office. I won't be pissy like the fans if a certain SEC school. He gave us a good 6-year run, and it's next man up as HC. With coaches as with players, Ohio State just reloads.
"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM
"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody
Right. Fat fingers here.
I wouldn’t say I’d be pissy but I would think less of him and OSU for creating the whole retiring for his health charade.
Don't listen to Freddy P. Soft
Yep. Thanks Drake.
Yeah, he’ll go to Youngstown State and work under Tress.
He might be doing this just to actually say fuck you to ESPN. Can’t say I’d blame him that’s for sure.
"Age wrinkles the body, quitting wrinkles the soul" Woody Hayes
I really don't disagree at all, and have always thought he was never done, just needed a break again, but when it does happen it's really going to be a pretty slutty move, honestly. I'm grateful for what he did for Ohio State, and I won't be bitter, but it's kinda slutty. And the sad part is, that's going to be what his legacy will become, in part.
Ignorance isn't bliss for the rest of us.
I also believe his legacy would be that he was a great at building elite programs but lacked the fortitude to maintain a program for the long term. He seems to fall apart after the building process is over. He did at Florida and it would seem to be the case at OSU if he does in fact coach again.
The Billy Martin of College Football. Everywhere he went they dramatically improved, but for some reason there was always a falling out and he moved on to somewhere else.
If only he could get a coaching job without having to spend a year on TV... Oh that's right... he could have a job coaching tomorrow if he wanted one.
Excellent. Good for Urban. I hope their ratings crush ESecPN!
I'm a peacock Captain, you gotta let me fly!!
The F’ing 4 hour games? They won’t crush ESPN
Well that happened quickly. This is eerily similar to when he left Florida for us in 2010. Here we go.
Priority #1: Beat Michigan
He’ll be a Trojan in a year or two.
I have seen speculation as well that USC will make a run at him to be their next coach. I have every expectation they will but that doesn’t mean he will be interested. In fact I suspect he will be approached by any number of schools over the next couple of years.
Or Notre Dame
Sorry but Kelly isn’t going anywhere in the next 5 years. Not happening
I do not mind him coaching again.
With that being said, if he comes back next year at USC and swoops Pantoni, Mariotti, and Alford from our staff then I think he's kind of a POS.
"We talkin' about practice?!" -Allen Iverson 2002
At this point I think the odds are better that he will coach again, and probably in the next year or two, than that he won’t coach again. A pattern is developing here.
OSUCOM 2008 Graduate. Go Bucks!
I'm glad for Urban, but as a fan, he isn't the most exciting person to listen to. I thought he made the right decision to leave the booth and return to the sidelines at Ohio State.
He was actually pretty good on TV during his year off in 2011.
I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..
Agree. He was a natural, he improved as the season went on and unlike many analysts he brought good insights to the game.
I thought so too!
Get busy living.
The man can’t sit still lol. Love that he chose Fox over ESPN.
I like it. He's able to stick around OSU all week but can give his insights or whatnot on game days. It will keep him busy when OSU is taking the field.
insights or whatnot
while scouting the college landscape, hand-picking his next HC gig....I kid, I kid. More power to him.
He won’t be sticking around OSU all week. He will be plotting his next move as a HC. Not guaranteeing he will be at USC, but he won’t be assisting Gene for long.
I seriously doubt he wants to start over rebuilding a new program. Especially when his patented offense isn't winning against elite defenses anymore
Especially when his patented offense isn't winning against elite defenses anymore
LOL. What? Urbans offense has always morphed with his OC. Herman (scumbag), then Beck/Warriner, now Day. His gameday coaching, gameflow feel, etc is his strength - always has been. The basis of his offense (more numbers by using zone read) is still solid, what killed it was Beck/Warriner, then JT not being a fit under the Day modifications (though he crushed a number of records his year with Day at the helm). Its always an interesting fit to see an offense predicated on patience and running (Urbans base) meshed with a high impact big play offense (Herman/Day) and when it is flowing nicely nearly unstoppable (2014, end of this year). The defense has been the biggest issue the last couple years. Plenty of offense against Iowa that JT's shitty INT's shouldnt have mattered as much, but the D gave up everything to the FB wheel and TE seam. Vs Purdue (and numerous others this year) the D could not get out of its own way on slants . Never seen an elite (talent wise) defense get dominated with literally 2 plays by multiple teams. This years kryptonite was different than last years, but neither had a whole lot to do with Urbans offense. Against Clemson in the 16 playoffs, the D got rocked early and completely had to toss the game plan. Not saying everything was perfect, but Urbans offense has obliterated plenty of elite defenses of late - in fact, outside of Clemson, it has beaten all of them.
Everything that happens-good and bad-should motivate you to be persistent. ~JT
Would love to see him replace Dinardo on BTN, also I assume this means he moves out of AD role which would could give Day and the new coaches some space. If this is groundhog day he will be back on sidelines in a year??!!
They are getting their space anyway. Gene made that quite clear as he should
I would love to see him tell Dinardo to eat shit...
"The future is bright at Ohio State" - UFM
Fox Sports is headquartered in LA. Urban to USC is happening in a year, mark it down. Say what you will about Colin Cowherd, but he’s had this situation nailed from the start.
That he is often very wrong, the fact that a talking head is right from time to time means nothing other than confirmation bias. I doubt Meyer coaches again.
Um no! Collin is typically pretty spot on
Except for the times when he's not, and those predictions never get mentioned again.
Well his wife already said she didn’t want him coaching again, so I don’t share your confidence but it’s possible.
$$$$$$$$$$$, Southern Cal, sunny all the time.
LA is an absolute nightmare.
That's 1 opinion.
Happy wife is always, (in our case 35 years), is the best life, for all concerned.
Born and bred a Buckeye - Buckeye 'til I die
With Chip Kelly at UCLA..... I can imagine the 2+ hour lunches. Heaven.
Still think the early retirement had more to do with Drake throwing him under the bus than it did for his actual health. Not saying he doesn’t have health issues, just saying Drake throwing him under the bus expedited his retirement.
We will never know all the machinations surrounding Urban Meyer and the 2018 Ohio State football season.
Too much time spent at the North Heidelberg rather than the classroom. SSD 68-72
We will never know all the machinations surrounding Urban Meyer and the 2018 Ohio State football season.
We may know if Urban writes a book. He's already written at least one.
Our honor defend, so we'll fight to the end !
Not true at all. Urban would have outlasted Drake.
He won’t win another title. He had several golden opportunities here, and failed. Sayonara
Yes him passing out on the sidelines and constantly grabbing the side of his head was all an act
I’m not saying it was an act but if he coaches again next year I could see why people would view it as a convenient excuse to leave a situation that he was no longer happy to be in. I could see Urban being unhappy after Drake hung him out to dry. He also loves the University so an amicable way to make the break would be by using the health angle. Personally I hope that he sticks around OSU and becomes the AD but it certainly looks like he’s heading down the same path he took after bailing on Florida. Time will tell whether his health issues were really bad enough to make him retire or if it was a PR creation.
A PR creation....
I guess he paid off his physician to attend one of his press conferences and explain about his arachnoid cyst.
LOL, this place is amazing sometimes.
Welp this feels familiar
It's only a matter of time before ex coach Urban the analysts becomes head coach Urban the analyzed. It's just a matter of time before he coaches again is what I get from this news today. Urban will sign a damm near 100 million dollar deal with USC once they can Helton.
But his cyst.
I think his ego might out way that.
He doesn't need to go on TV to coach again, you all must realize that right?
Good for Urban and FOX
Best coach on the best CFB Network
Go get'em Cal Poppy - we are behind you !!
It's not a rivalry .............. it's a wreckoning.
Damn right. Gus & Urban.
Ohio State and Michigan guys in the booth.
Always and forever, Go Bucks!
It works because right now we currently OWN ttun and all Urban would need to say is 62 - 39.
"Conversely, Urban Meyer and his players are an unstoppable army of football automatons that feel no emotion and win in any and every setting."
How does this affect his position as Assistant AD? Is there any potential conflict of interest if he does both, especially if he is in the booth?
Buckeye in the desert of Washington state.
Spoiler alert: he won’t be Assistant AD
Yeah, that's all bullshit. The recruiting stories Birm wrote on LR... Grinch recruiting as tepidly as possible while still getting paid, the program accepting the commitment of Mathis and fumbling QB recruiting for 2019, Studrawa being Studrawa as a recruiter and losing Ohio o-line talent because he's an average recruiter (and still, he's here), losing Jordan Battle to Alabama because Ohio State "took his commitment for granted," and then sent Taver Johnson to finish what Zach Smith started... and he failed miserably. Meyer had seemingly made up his mind to leave OSU long before announcing it, because Birm paints a picture that is one of a bumbling cluster fuck of a recruiting season... at least that was my impression. It was Meyer's powerful name and reputation that allowed Ohio State to sign even the third best class in the B1G, because it was far from the staff's best effort. I actually thought Meyer might be being truthful when he said he was retiring for good due to the cyst... and now, after listening to Dan Patrick and other media people refer to OSU sources saying Meyer will be at USC or ND in 2020, I'll be shocked if any of what Meyer said was true. Not that he doesn't have a cyst, because of course he does, but that it precludes him from coaching. He wanted out of Ohio State, and he's doing it slowly so as to pick his next gun for hire stop. Personally, that bothers me, and it's one of many reasons why Woody Hayes, by a wide margin, is the GOAT at Ohio State.
When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's
Wow, the amount of reaching on this post. Lol!
"Because I couldn't go for three"
No shit. That's the point of a sports blog
The point of a sports blog is to “reach” dramatic conclusions on a class that is ranked 3rd in the nation by quality? Okay...
Maybe so but his last sentence...truer words never spoken.
Kmp10-The third ranked class is due to numbers not quality. Quality wise I believe the class ranks in the top five nationally.
a hard rock miner from Butte, Montana
Kmp - what a stupid post. REALLY stupid!!!
Even if this shit you're spewing is half way true. How can you blame him. Ohio State threw urban Meyer under the bus this past fall. I'm still so disappointed in that shit. I would feel the same way if my employer did that shit to me. I'll root for Urban for the rest of my days. And make no mistake, he loves Ohio State.
That position was created out of thin air and has job descriptions invented solely for him. I’m sure they’ll work something out.
Important distinction; Urban is AN assistant AD, not the assistant AD. Ohio State has like 20 something assistant ADs. It’s just a title. He won’t have much responsibility, just gives him a chance to stick around a bit and be a part of the university. Beau Bishop talked about this on his radio show or maybe the Eleven Dubcast, but important point regardless.
We will fight to the end for OH-IO!
I often Wonder what would have been, had Drake supported Meyer, instead of rolling him under the PC bus on a witch hunt.
Oh well, onward to the future.
I can’t believe people are still just blaming Drake for this. He admitted to declining health since 2016. He was literally bent over on the sidelines this season in pain. That has nothing to do with Drake or a press conference.
As I said, I’m not saying he didn’t have, or doesn’t have health issues, but I totally disagree on the Drake part. Drake absolutely threw him under the bus. Meyer did say it was a combination of things to why he retired. It doesn’t take a genius to read between the lines.
Make no mistake, the lack of support from Drake made it easier to walk away. Meyer almost walked away at the beginning of the season. It’s not a matter of one factor or the other, but a bit both. Urban’s health issues are very real, but like you pointed out they aren’t new. There is a reason they were far more evident this year as opposed to others.
If Meyer wanted to walk away at the beginning of the season he could have negotiated a large chunk of his $39m buyout and stepped down.
He said almost wanted to walk away. I'm sure his commitment to the kids on the team, so close to the season started weighed heavy on his emotions, just like the lack of University management support.
He didn’t & never did “want” to walk away, which is why he stayed on & took a suspension that brought with it an aura of guilt & only furthered to forever tarnish a legacy he cares greatly about.
Yep, he’s now adding more tarnish. He has a habit of doing that.
You're a moron.
You know Drakes actions had nothing to do with him retiring? How do you know this? It's your belief, your opinion, and mine is equally valid.
The fact that Urban even slightly acknowledged this past summer at his retirement press conference tells me it had a lot to do with his decision to step away. Of course he has health issues, but working for a PC dipshit dampened what he was willing to put up with as far as his health.
It looked to me like he was bent over because he couldn't believe how putrid the defense was playing.
WTF John!!! BOT runs the show!!
In case you weren’t watching Urban last 4 games, go watch him in the sideline.
In case you didn’t watch press conferences, go back and watch Urban struggled big time!
Oh well, COWARD to the future.
Fixed it for ya.
Life is short. Filled with stuff.
I'm not sure I get the reference.
I love Urban but if your implication is that if none of this happened he'd still be our coach.. next season we'd have Tate Martell running the read option.
If urban goes to usc then there really wasn’t a big health issue
I firmly believe he has health problems but I also believe said health problems can be helped, cured or alleviated with proper meds and monitoring. Also health problems magically go away when somebody sticks damm near a hundred million in your face especially a 100 million in a place like L.A. .
$100 million only goes so far in California, that would be like $60 million in Ohio. Plus, you don't have to deal with all of the dumb laws they pass. Yes, the weather is better but that's about it
Your body even adjusts to the weather (50 degrees there feels as cold to your body as 30 degrees here). L.A. is pretty overrated
"Year for what?"
I've lived in SoCal for about 16 years now, mostly in San Diego. I've also spent a lot of time working in and around L.A. For most working people, living in L.A. involves spending a lot of time in traffic commuting to and from work, and then trying to avoid traffic by sticking to the area where they live. It is a huge place with a ton of people, with almost endless things to experience. But unless you're willing to be stuck in traffic for an hour or more each time you try to go somewhere, it's best to avoid the freeway. I think that is why each area of L.A. takes on a life of its own, and people living only 15-20 miles apart can have very different experiences while living in the same city. I also think that is why it's simultaneously a cool city with a lot of opportunity, and a horrible place that can leave people filling stuck. Consider me in the camp of people who very much dislike L.A.
"It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer." - Albert Einstein
Yep not a fan of traffic
How about homeless encampments and literal shit on the sidewalk?
$35 M didn’t fix the problem. $100M won’t either
Trust me, LA is a horrible place to live
That’s not true. He DID have health issues at Florida. He went to the hospital and thought he was dying. Like, that was a thing that happened.
He was still at OSU after one year off.
Panic attacks. Been there, done that. Visited many hospitals.
His health issues are very real, that’s not the entirety of why he retired though & the extra stress brought on by the “scandal” absolutely made things harder on him.
Miracle cure...just like Dean and now Barrow.
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
They'll just add it to his list of excuses
Urban can still work at Ohio State and be an analyst. He flies out on Friday, does the show Saturday, and flies back Sunday. His son is at Cincy, so he's not moving anytime soon.
Urban Meyer gave Ohio State a lot of great years and I’ll always be grateful —-whatever he chooses to do from here on out. Unless it involves Michigan and then he’d be dead to me.
Deserves got nothin' to do with it
Hmmm. Easy money for him. Can he be a spy for the Buckeyes since he will be out and about visiting other programs ? Maybe some inside knowledge recruiting info as well. I doubt he will go to USC, but they will be calling for him.
Rose Bowl or Bust
Just don't see the USC thing. I'll come back and eat all the crow if he does, but he has zero connections or history at USC at all. He doesn't strike me as an LA/Pete Carroll type. Other than it being a traditional blue blood school, I don't see why everyone has him pegged to go there. If they had anyone other than Clay Helton, I don't see this topic being brought up.
I think Shelly has much more pull than she did in 2011. The health issues aren't going away unless he is lying about how serious they are. He was stressed out enough here with multiple top 5 recruiting classes stacked on top of each other, and he's going to leave the family behind for a rebuild in LA - color me skeptical.
Please...she loves being in front of the camera more than he does
Grandkids change things.
He’s not an LA guy.
I think lots of the fanbase is in Loubucks same corner on this one. There are more than enough posts from others musing the same.
FWIW, by admission, I am not an OSU fan. I am an Urban Meyer fan. Which means I cheer for whatever team he is coaching. I think his teams are the most interesting... so I have been cheering for OSU the past 7 years. At any rate, I have been following his career closely for much longer than his OSU tenure. There are a ton of things most super fans of OSU don't know about Meyer that I think make his going to USC much more likely than people who started following him 7 years ago realize.
1. He did say Notre Dame was his dream job. But remember that was years and years ago. And he turned down Notre Dame once already... to go to Florida. Somewhere that offered him more money than Notre Dame. He also cited quality of life at Florida as being better for his family as one of his main reasons for ditching Notre Dame.
I think that lends to the narrative that USC is in-play. The amount of travel he would have to do in LA would be much less than other schools given the large population and local recruiting base. And that has to be good for his personal and family life I believe. Not to mention that for Meyer money clearly talks. He has left several jobs for better ones. As a non-OSU fan, but big fan of the sport with no team affiliation, I personally think of USC as the ultimate job.
2. OK, here it is... I have never mentioned this in my years on the forum and I almost hate to break the news... but when he was at Utah he had a provision in his contract that allowed him to get out of his contract with no buyout to take the job at Notre Dame, OSU or... here it comes... Michigan!
Now, I don't think he would take the job at Michigan today, because he cares too much about his OSU legacy. But it goes to show that connections to a school don't always matter. You could even say he has an anti-connection to michigan. But Michigan is an elite job, just like USC. Even if they aren't currently playing elite, the job is elite.
3. This is actually his third retirement. He retired for like 1 day literally when he was at florida. then unretired the next day. My feeling is he is addicted to coaching. People want to hate on him for changing programs but I think it eats at him to not be coaching. It is what he is good at. And it is really really hard to take that away from someone. If you were elite at playing Basketball (Jordan), Or slinging a football (Favre), etc. you might have a hard time giving up what you love too. I think this is actually what makes him such a good coach. Is his unrelenting desire to do it.
At any rate, I've literally listened to every press single conference he has given in the last 11 years or so. And I bet he goes to USC. And I think it would be good for young men if he did.
Buckshots... always there for you if you missed the news last month
Sorry but you're not saying anything that everyone here doesn't already know. It's not inside info, especially the multiple Florida retirements or the clause in his contract. And if we're talking about "quality of life" trust me it's much better in Columbus than LA. Especially for grandparents with grandchildren in Ohio.
and a son in school at Cincinnati...
Awesome, he gave the finger to eSECpn. He will still be closely connected to Ohio State in my opinion. This last debacle at Ohio State took a toll not only on him but his family. USC ain't happening, mark it down.
Fuck eSECpn and fuck Mythigan.
I thought Urban wouldn't retire from Ohio State for another 4-7 years...damn I was wrong...Urban may end up at U.S.C...I will never say never again when Urban is involved...Go Urban...Go Fox...Go Bucks
Gus & Urban > Fowler & Herbstreit
Oh my God the thought of this just made my day better!
"BLOOD. THIRSTY. BUCKEYES."
Hell YES! No apologies.
So he gonna teach a class, be assistant AD, and be on tv?
Wild theory: anyone think it was possible that Ohio State pushed Urban out and mutually agreed that his real health issues would be used as the main talking point for his exit? It’s hard to believe he won’t be on the sidelines in a couple years.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
I don’t know about that, but he was pretty pissed at the press conference after the Zach Smith debacle, and Drake threw him under the bus, he never recovered from it in my opinion. I don’t blame him for it. I’ll forever be grateful, unless he goes to TTUN and I don’t see that happening.
Ohio State got crushed by bad PR for NOT firing him. What would be the benefit to them by secretly firing him instead?
Seems highly unlikely, in part because Cris Carter went on national TV and said he is no longer physically able to be a Head Coach and suggested Urban could have a major health event on the sideline.
If Urban wanted to coach again, I don't think he'd have his people giving future rival head coaches such powerful ammo.
Not a chance in hell Urban was pushed out, if that’s case they fire him at the start if the season & save themselves the crucifying by the media.
Anything to keep Urbs out of the house says @spinnershells.
OH-IO living in SEC! SEC! Ville
I thought the Big Ten was the majority (51%) owner of BTN while FOX had the remaining stake?
"Attack the Strong, Trample the Weak, Hurdle the Dead!"
-Former OSU S&C Coach Lichter
Damn it all, I don’t ever want Urban to be on the other side of a playoff field or Rose Bowl.
Why? Somewhere....Clemson fans who read that post are laughing.....and laughing hard.
TV analysts don't face off against us, contrary to popular belief
Deja vu. He really is going to be coaching at USC in two years isn’t he?
its all good though. Still went 7-0 and got us a natty.
True, he still wrecked Harbaugh. We owe him til the end of time for that!.....I also don’t think Meyer would be able to steal all the staff from Day. Coach Mick is loyal but he is from Ohio. I’m not sure he moves again for Urban. Pantoni might get stolen though. LJ isn’t going anywhere. Day just cleaned house on defense so no issues there.
He has plenty of washed up friends he can hire.
I though he was going to be working in the athletic department? He’ll be in coaching again within 3 years. He says he won’t, be he also said about 3 time that he would be coaching at OSU in 2019
Technically he did coach the team in 2019.
On the run from Johnny Law...ain’t no trip to Cleveland.
Yeah, mixed bag here as well.
I don't mind him in the booth, especially at Fox, but would like to see him stay rooted in Columbus.
I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...
Vegas odds are definitely in favor of him coaching again within two years. It stinks that things got totally blown out of proportion by the media and OSU bowed to the social pressure to take action. That is definitely the main reason Urban is not coaching the Buckeyes. I believe he has an ailment, but seems real convenient as the excuse for him to step away. History does repeat itself.
Vegas is in the business of making money, not predicting the future. You can bet on ANYTHING. I don't even want to know how much action they've gotten on whether UFM coaches again.
I love Urban Meyer, and he doesn’t owe me or OSU anything. He can and should do what he loves if he is able to do it. With that said, the cyst took him to his knees on the sideline against Indiana. Against. Indiana. We all saw that, and he certainly didn’t run into another coach like the sideline reporter said. They covered for him. If he goes back to coaching, I’m afraid he won’t be long for this world. The stress and grind of being a head coach simply doesn’t work with having a brain cyst.
It would be awesome. Nothing holding him back from some real assessments now. We also know he requested covering the Big Ten in 2011, so he could scout the rest of the conference from the inside. I’d almost expect him to start by covering regional games unless he does the in studio shows. If he starts doing the PAC 12 games, well...
I genuinely don’t see him coaching again, his family is against it & it would tarnish his legacy deservingly so it not. However, if he does, it will be at Notre Dame, with that said there is no conspiracy. OSU’s handling of the situation soured the relationship there is no doubt, not that Urban didn’t blow that press conference, but the lack of support burned some bridges forever. Meyer also has genuine health issues & the combination led to him walking away from a team he had told people in private he believed would win 2 of the next 3 championships. Take from that what you will.
I wish Urban the best of health and doing whatever he wants.
As much as I loved the Urban Meyer era, the past 6 months have been incredibly difficult to believe anything that comes out of his mouth. 48hrs before he retired he told the world "I plan on coaching." Then during his retirement presser he talked about how this wasn't a quick decision. I can't place which source I saw/read it from, he said he already had his first lecture written out for this OSU class.
Like, I'm not even upset about his decisions - he's earned the right to do whatever he wants. I just don't get why he feels the need to lie about dumb stuff. It saddens me.
Make preparations in advance. You never have trouble if you are prepared for it.
He’s not lying. He did stubbornly plan to coach, this also wasnt a rushed decision in that he had been talking over the possibility of walking away for bordering on 3 years with his family & most of his friends pushing him to walk away. He could have his first lecture written & then this offer came. Life isn’t black & white my friend.
The drama continues. Publicly he support the University and coach Day but all his friends were essentially fired including his son in law, so I am not sure he feels the same as things have played out. He felt he should have never been suspended and now as everyone he was surrounded by is gone, his ties to OSU are now gone so I doubt he will not look at options to prove he was slighted. His legacy is very important to him and Shelley will do what he wants
Was Dennis fired?
he was quarterback coach during Rose Bowl and reported he had a one year extension but then Yurrcich was hired and I doubt he will stay as GA if that is still offered. He also was recruiting in December and now no press on that so I assumed he was no longer on staff as he was not mentioned in any press about coaches
Why is this an Ohio state football article?
I have to return some videotapes
Because it involves a former Ohio State coach? I guess while we're at it, we can stop with the news on former OSU players too like Michael Thomas and Lattimore and Bosa.
Wouldn’t those 3 be nfl articles?
Man can do what he wants. Forever thankful.
Urban can do whatever he wants to do, but I think it's an interesting conundrum. He can't be a TV celebrity and be an associate athletic director at the same time.
There is risk in all of this. If he stays at OSU he's basically guaranteed a job. On the other hand it could be "take the money while you can" with TV. Who knows? I'd hate to see him burn out on TV and not have a home in Columbus.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
Maybe he can tell the world what Dbags they are at ESPN. Glad he is not going back there.
Talk some BigTen 9 game schedule stats and less sec 8 game schedule bullshit.
Those trying to make a connection between him landing an analyst gig and him coaching at USC are realllllyyyyy stretching it. The man just loves football and wants to be around it. Doesn't mean he wants to jump back into coaching.
He is on the better network. He and Gus Johnson can talk about Cardale Jones together.
That's the truth. Welcome to the show!
Or get invited to Denzel Ward's barbecues.
Tom Brady lost to John Cooper. Never forget.
DG, I can just hear Gus Johnson greeting UFM on their first telecast together: “Urban Meyer! URBAN MEYER! The entire Fox Sports Network is counting on Urban Meyer!” And while we’re at it in terms of new job responsibilities for Urban, how about adding him to the CFP selection committee?
He will have to recuse himself when Ohio State is discussed.
I was really hoping what he was saying was true but the actions are speaking louder than words. He is going to coach again and it’s going to be at a major powerhouse that’s available at the time. Maybe USC...maybe Florida State if Taggart gets canned in 2019. At this point I doubt he takes the job at Ohio State as a side gig. They caved to the factless media onslaught and pissed him off enough to say goodbye. I am very thankful for what he did and accomplished here but the way this was handled will always piss me off.
He may coach again, I doubt it, but anything is possible. But those drawing the conclusion he will coach again because he might have a job at Fox are being idiotic. Do you really think one has anything to do with the other?
Do you really think any schools interested in Meyer are saying "yeah.. he's a hall of fame coach... But let's see how he does behind the desk at a sport network first!"
Yes it happened once in the past that he took at job at ESPN and by an insane number of circumstances, the OSU job came open so he took it.
If usc wants Meyer and he wants the job they hire him immediately
Groundhog Day, Urban Meyer edition!
So does that mean he is already leaving the Asst AD position? That is a slap in the face to Gene Smith... whatever... I smell something is up...
You guys realize there are currently 24 assistant AD positions at Ohio State. It's a title given to someone who is in charge of a little corner of the AD , it's not directly behind Gene Smith waiting to take over the entire department. Its amazing to me that there are a lot of fans who still think Urban is going to take over the entire AD department within a year and Gene retire.
There is zero reason Urban can't spend some time on the road as an ANALYST, which is not a color commentator. The article doesn't say he is going to be calling games. He's going to end up at half time at some games sitting in the booth giving his opinion of what he sees on the field. I'm sure it will be an occasional cherry picked game. I'm also sure they are dying to have him analyze a Michigan game, which I highly doubt he will do.
That shouldn't remotely interfere with his agreed upon work with OSU. He's not the sole teacher of the leadership class, he's doing that in conjunction with the current assigned prof. There is nothing that has me believing he is 8-5 at OSU all day, his schedule can have him there part time.
The freak out on here is amusing.
This. I think people have been way over concerned about the assistant AD thing. The average assistant AD at OSU makes 140k I think or something like that. Meyer, by virture of his exp could be making north of a million or so, who knows. But I agree that people have been blowing up the AD dept piece way too much. It's basically a rounding error on his coaching salary is he is making what the other A-AD's make.
The ONLY thing that is obvious.....
Is how little we all really know.
What we do know is he left one place before because of health. We also know he said he was going to stay there some way as adminsrative as that is where heart was. We also know he went to broadcasting. Then after a year he was coaching again.
We've scene 2 of those steps and appear close to the third step. All that would be left is the last.
Do you think the man is living his life on a loop like it's a twilight zone episode?
If he coaches again, I wish him the best. Thanks for seven great seasons, extending a GOLDEN AGE of OSU football that started 18yrs ago when Tress was hired.
There was and is a health issue. This is a fact.
So many of you accuse the media of refusing to let go of an agenda. So maybe you should be willing to let go of your own.
Urban may go to the booth. He may coach USC or Notre Dame or the pop warner all-stars. Maybe he’ll be on the playoff committee or fly to the moon.
There was and is a health issue. He did the smart thing getting off the sidelines. It doesn’t mean he’ll do the smart thing by refraining from going back.
But Urban Meyer doesn’t owe us a thing. He did a great job for the Buckeyes and if he coaches some day, let him be.
He seems awfully attached to his grandchildren to leave Ohio. I'll bet he doesn't coach anywhere unless it's Ohio State again.
Only have love for the Meyer fam. If he coaches USC, I will be sad but not mad. Some BoT members and Drake REALLY screwed up the Zach Smith stuff. PR was bad. Misread the situation. Overreacted, etc. As JCam061588 has said many times, that burned some bridges with Urban. Not Ohio State...he loves OSU and Ohio...that's always been clear. However, as long as Drake and certain elements are around, I expect Urban to keep them at a distance.
And he really does have health issues. My fear about those are the "other future concerns" that could arise from the cyst...dementia or Alzheimers or a brain aneurysm come to mind. That's the kind of stuff that had Cris Carter worried, I believe.
If Urban went to Notre Dame, I think he'd lose some love from OSU fans though. That's too close to home and almost as bad as going to Michigan. No thank you.
I think most would be more forgiving of him moving to California and coaching USC. It's far away from Ohio, the weather is perfect, the best doctors are out there, and he could repair his media image in one of the media capitals of the world. USC has talent on its roster. The Pac 12 is weak like the Big 10 was when he got here. The school would likely throw 8 to 10 million per year at him.
If he coaches again, I see it as a quick 4-5 year "building a program" back up to national prominence and then quit and do media while living out his best days as a grandpa in SoCal. However, I really think Shelley is done with Urban coaching. She wants him to be alive and be around for the grandkids. We'll see. But my love for Urbs won't change.
You win with people.
And so forth...
9 Units Strong!
I do think Meyer will coach again. I sure hope day has replacement lined up for certain members of the staff, notably Marotti and pantoni. I am kind of surprised there wasn't a clean break already. Don't be surprised if Alford goes with Meyer as well. Day may have to replace the entire offensive coaching staff in addition to marrotti and pantoni.
i appreciate what Urban did for OSU and Big 10, but if he goes to USC or some other big time school I am firmly behind Day kicking his ass on the field..OSU>>UM>>Scum
I don’t care if Urban goes to USC, but where does that leave his legacy? That would be his 5th program and 3rd blue blood. Most of the greats are associated with 1 program. Bear and Saban are all Bama. Saban had some serious success at LSU, but has a long run going at Bama. Tom Osborne, Barry Switzer, and Bobby Bowden all stayed at the same program and became legends. Would Urban’s legacy be that of a college coaching nomad? Staying 6-7 years and then packing up and moving to another region. He will have gone: Midwest -> West -> Southeast -> Midwest -> West. He is an all time great already, but I really wonder how he will be remembered if he goes to USC.
Same as LeBron. He may call himself a Buckeye and while he represented the buckeyes well, if he goes to USC, nd, or wherever in a year or two in my eye it will knock Meyer down to third on all time great coaches. In my opinion it will be hard to consider him a Buckeye legend when he coached so many other high level programs. I do wonder how he would do recruiting given his health. If you thought negative recruiting was bad before it will get a lot worse, because now there is a pattern.
Great hire for FoxSports. Does anyone know where Fox Sports is located? LA, right?
Da juice ain’t worth the squeeze
I'm not going to lie...I do not want him coaching another team!! I will feel like I just broke up with a girlfriend if that would ever happen...ugh!
Fox sports is not a team
It does seem like he is sitting back taking in offers. The media is a pimp and he is a whore. Except he gets to keep his money. Can we just separate ourselves from this liar? Not paying for an autograph...Hell No !
Yeah people who leave jobs for better ones are terrible people. EMPLOYEES SHOULD SUBMIT TO EMPLOYERS FOREVER!!
BOW TO YOUR MASTERS! money grubbing losers... how dare you optimize your position in the marketplace!
I just don’t see how he can juggle an analyst gig in California and an assistant AD/ co-teaching position in Columbus. It seems like a whole lot of responsibility. Not as stressful as HC but a lot to handle imo.
All of those jobs are extremely part time. There are like 24 assistant ADs, it's just a title. He's helping teach a class on leadership, and his position at Fox will likely be showing up once in a while to give his opinion. He might not even need to be on set.
Left coaching job because of declining health
Took a TV job
I wonder what will come next in a year or so? I'm guessing he will have found "balance" again and will be in a good spot and will be leading a team in California or South Bend come 2020 season.
The USC thing I find hard to consider until you say Urban following LBJ again.
This isn't popular opinion but,I think Urban was told by Drake this was his last year that Ryan Day was taking over in 2019 I honestly beleive they forced Urban out but they didn't have enough to fire him JMHO!! That being said Urban is me second favorite coach ever I wasn't old enough for Woody wish I was I got to watch most of those old games on tape my grandpa swore by him,But the Vest is my favorite OSU coach #GoBucks
"Nobody despises to lose more than I do"
Deja vu all over again?
Lets be clear Urban in my opinion can do what he wants. He got us a national championship and was cheated outa at least two more. I do feel if he does take the USC job and the Day era fails alot of people saying they support Urban will change. Or they'll blame Drake and he would absolutely have to go. If the dudes health is bad as they say I hope being over there don't make him take a job at USC. The health part of it would be very stressful. Espn would absolutely have a field day with this especially after he spurned them for Fox. Just saying How many of you would turn im him if the Day era turns out to be bad and Usc is dominating? Im personally good but being on other boards and even this one I see people flip on college students for less. Just Saying......
Watch the CC video talking about Urban’s retirement. CC said he Urban won’t coach again. They are really close.
Whether Urban winds up coaching at another school or not, it has been right there for the world to see how hurt and pissed he was over his shameful treatment by that little wimp of a president at OSU. They knew that 99% of what what was reported as news by ESPN was simply covering their ass for even making such a big deal out of what happened in the first place and exaggerating the original incidents and Urban's "responsibility" in the charade, and still they threw Urban under the bus. Anyone with even slight observation powers could watch Urban's response and know how hurt and pissed he was over his treatment. OSU sat by and let ESPN drive one of the top ten coaches of all time away from his dream university and did NOTHING to defend him.
I love Urban and hate to see him go but , as many others have said, his unknowledgeable and 'media bowing" treatment, and refusal to properly defend one of their two greatest coaches in history for something which was grossly exaggerated and not his fault in the first place is something Urban simply refuses to forget or forgive and I don't blame him.
Head coach retires for health reasons then spends some time as a commentator of games. HMMMMM seems I've seen this movie before. When he is on the sideline again he will have officially earned his name Urban Liar!
Because I couldn't go for three.
If he wants to coach again he can have a job now. It doesn't require him to spend a year on television as a commentator.
Unless you think a 62 year old man with serious health issues, kids and grandkids in Ohio wants to play out this charade just because it would be funny... Oh and tarnish his own public image even further.
I seriously wonder how people survive daily life sometimes.
Of course Urban would work for FOX instead of ESPN.
Can you imagine Meyer at an ESPN Holiday reception in Bristol, CT?
Finebaum: "Hey, Urban....no hard feelings, right. After awllll, it's just show business, brother."
Meyer: "No hard feelings, Paul. Here, I brought you some punch."
Finebaum: "Ah, gee, thanks, Urbs. You're a cool dude."
Meyer, walking away thinking to himself...."I hope he like the taste of my piss."
A dog will hunt. A dog will hunt.
Go for 3.
UFM is not going anywhere that will preclude him from watching Nate play baseball the next 4-5 years. He has said this is his #1 priority right now...not coaching another fb team across the country.
Urban and Shelley have the big picture in mind. Retirement from the state of Ohio at 62+ is also a factor. It is IMO, way more likely UFM will soon become AD at OSU (or Cincy or BG) than coach anywhere.
I can't imagine Urban wanting to do anything that would prevent him from watching OSU play...studio analyst would be my guess. A network like FOX cutting into Gameday would cause the biggest stir ..and a big personality like UFM would turn the most channels.
Love Urban Meyer -He did a amzaing job at Ohio State. I hope he stays with OSU for a long time. I just don't want history to repeat itself. Go Bucks!
Didn't he have his own doctor state his health issue was 'real' and 'serious'? I have to think if he ever coaches again, the first thing he'd have to do is get his doctor to reverse that statement ("Since his retirement there has been a medical breakthrough. Urban has undergone a UberBrainThingyReduction procedure this past summer. In clinical studies it has shown to eliminate the issue"). Otherwise the negative recruiting and general media backlash would be out of control.
That is why I don't think he will coach again.
I don't understand why Meyer would be so upset with accepting a three game suspension or being mad a Drake. I didn't buy the DV stuff that was being spewed by the Twitter machine, but Zach was a bad hire. He wasn't a good coach. He could recruit some, but our receivers weren't playing well under his coaching. And, while there was a toxic marriage situation going on, which wasn't entirely on him, nor was it for Meyer's to fix, he did have other issues that spilled over that weren't professional. Meyer shouldn't have kept him on as long as he did and that was on Meyer. So to say blanket, Drake threw him under the bus and that's why he left or to allude that he was justified to do so is wrong. In light of today's culture and everything that was being proposed on the Internet, I would have taken the three day in a heart beat and smiled the entire time. That's a win.
I don't understand the USC connection. Based upon what I've seen/read about the guy, that's a culture that doesn't mesh well with his character. If he goes there, there's going to be so much fanfare, so many ESPN specials. Are we going to hear the same rah rah glory speeches he gave at Ohio State? Is ESPN then create the narrative to justify his move to USC because The Ohio State was a bad place to work? If this is the case, it's going to feel a little cheap. At least for me.
Meyer isn't the best coach in the nation right now. I'm not sure where this is coming from? Saban and Dabo are both better. I'd say that Saban is nearing the same boat as Meyer. Dabo, on the other hand, has something really special going on at Clemson. I'd be an idiot to deny it. Meyer was the best coach in the country from when he took the broken squad and they went undefeated, up until the Natty. After that, it's been down hill - meaning, not best one or two, but still really good and we should feel blessed to have had it.
The year that Tress was suspended I stated that he wouldn't win another NC because he wasn't willing to be just a little pragmatic about his coaching staff. The same thing with Coach Meyer. He has a tad bit of an issue with nepotism. This isn't to say that it doesn't happen in coaching, but it can be a hinderance to success. And it has been since 2016. Hypothetically, if Meyer was to take the USC job, does he then steal away Coach Mick? What about the others he bequeathed to Day? Does he continue hiring coaches the same way he did the last three four years? IF so, then he probably won't win another natty. He'll improve them a lot, but he won't be able to surpass Dabo . Of course, this I just my opinion.
Needless to say. For some reason, I think the next two serious contenders for the Notre Dame job will be Fickell and Meyer. This is just a gut feeling. No rational thought behind it. And I know that it's inconsistent with what I said above, but in either case I don't think Meyer coaching at either place is feasible. Otherwise, he and his wife really lied about his health. And that goes for Cris Carter as well who really painted a bleak picture of Meyer's health on television. He made it seam like he was literally dying or would die if continued to coach. I'd hate to think that members of my beloved school program would have those types of character issues.
If a coach goes and gives a public statement that he believes he won't coach again, then I'd expect that to be the truth. Otherwise, I'd be lying if I didn't lose a bit of respect for him if he was to take on another elite position. Not after everything that was said. I could understand taking over his Alma Matter in a last hurrah. But, the Ohio State University was good to him and his family. The three day suspension or as some claim, Drake throwing him under the bus really shouldn't tarnish that feeling. That's my university. And if his feelings for it are that thin that he'd cut ties over a light slap on the wrist, then thanks for the memories coach, but hit the road. If it was that big of a deal, I would have rather have you resign out of principle instead of playing the used car salesman bit.
If you die before you die, then you won't die when you die.
Interesting take, tolstoy. Your passion for your alma mater (commendable) certainly shines through. As a alumus from another school (BGSU) I can quibble with some of your post, but for the most part, I agree -- especially and regrettably, the part about Meyer ending up in Dabo's rear-view mirror and the possibility of Saban trending in that direction, too.
One thing that should be clear to all of us: Meyer is a turnaround artist. It's in his coaching DNA. "Maintenance and sustainability" are not. Would he love a chance to turn USC around? Absolutely. But that by no means guarantees or suggests that he will. Considering the geography involved, I'd be shocked if he did...at the risk of sounding naive.
Quibble away. I, by no means, am an insider here or an expert on anything. I walked past the Woody everyday, I never entered.
A few thoughts: First, I love Urban Meyer the coach & man from what I've seen. I'm a much bigger OSU fan though. I do think he got a raw deal from OSU. I think he kept a man on too long in an attempt at loyalty to Earl Bruce... but I don't believe he ever "knew" what all was happening on the inside of the marriage of the ZS in question & did his best with the facts he had. He retired in part due to health issues, I think those are very real but the treatment he got from OSU facilitated the retirement.
I do think this is all eerily similar to what happened at UF. He was going to stick around there as well. But we all know he didn't - called games for a year then came to OSU. We as fans benefited greatly from that. As a fan, of course I'd be hurt if he ended up coaching in a year or 2. Because I believe him when he says he can't do it due to stress. I think he does indeed love OSU very much but if he were to coach again any time soon, it would absolutely be indicative as a pattern & in my humble opinion, a bad look. I don't see where he'd be able to be assistant AD & an announcer. Not that he wouldn't want to but it would appear to be a conflict of interest. Whatever happened in the 70s with Joe Paterno or Woody calling late season games/bowls - this is 2019 & I don't see how he could announce in a non-biased manner & stay on OSUs staff. Maybe I'm wrong.
So, yeah - love the dude & wish him all the best. The good he did as a coach should never be forgotten or taken for granted. I will absolutely not 'pull a Gator' & hate him for coaching should it happen - but it would certainly tarnish his credibility for me personally.
Now that he's gone, answer this question:
Do you REALLY think Shelley didn't show him the texts from Zach's wife?
With how close-knit of a family they are, I just can't see her keeping something so serious from him. Maybe they just didn't really know the extent. Just my opinion.
Of course she did! They're both liars, but it can't be proven. Look, I would probably think less of UM if he wasn't lying. There is only so much a person can justify being responsible for due to someone else's actions. I blame the police department for not taking action long ago.
My guess is it is moot. It sounds like she cried wolf a million times. I doubt when she texted it was newsworthy and they clearly didn't believe her. But shelley isn't going to reply and say that. So I'm sure she acted concerned, anyone would.
She may not have, just to protect him. I'm sure many a partner/assistant/follower of a powerful person has not shared information just so powerful person would have plausible deniability. Honestly, would it make sense for Shelley to share details that might affect Urban (her meal ticket), especially if smith was known to cry wolf from time to time?
Shelley: 'oh, the smith's are arguing again. when will it stop?"
Urban: "I'll talk to him tomorrow"
Urban: "What's up Zach? Shelley says you two are arguing again?"
Smith: "We figured it out, I just pull the toilet paper on upside down again"
Urban: "great! You just never know what sets them off, right?" <chuckle, chuckle>
Smith:"Right!" <chuckle, chuckle>
I wouldn't expect Meyer to go to USC, but I would most definitely not be surprised if he were roaming the sidelines in 2021 or 2022 in South Bend. Seriously folks...don't be surprised!
It is time!!!!!
I think it would most excellent if he poo poo'd both LA and South Bend and took over for Cincy after Luke leaves. I would love to see what would come out of that team. It would certainly make Ohio college football more interesting.
Good to hear ... was wondering how he was going to pay him mortgage. :P
The will to win is not as important as the will to prepare to win. -- Woody Hayes
I meant "hiz" mortgage ... sorry for the spelling error ...
To those thinking he'll take a job at USC. Do you honestly think the left coast, Hollywood, #HHH, #ZZZ, #AAA and the latest en vogue ribbon campaign would tolerate his presence? I doubt it.