Skull Session: Ohio State's Key Games For the Playoff, Buck-I-Guy Voted Worst Fan of the Year, and College Football Playoff Committee Hires a Four-Star General

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brutus0717's picture

"It's got to happen for coach Jim Harbaugh and the Wolverines eventually, right?"

That's what they keep telling themselves, and it has to be the only reason Harbaugh still has a job there. It surely isn't because of his outstanding recruiting record, wins against rivals, or bowl game success.

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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Buctor's picture

Not sure about the math, but surely statistically TTUN can't loose all their rivalry games.   Fortunately, actual competence does dramatically influence The Game outcome.  So in answer to the question, no, not necessarily!

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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Kalmar's picture

'Cut loose'   'Lose the game' Sorry to correct you but I see this one on the net way too much. Loose is what a badly tied knot is. Lose is what team does.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Meh, I think we all need to cut each other some slack. Fat thumbs and autocorrect account for a lot of typos and grammatical errors. The conscious mind knows what it wants to say and unconsciously misses edits others easily catch. I’ve posted WB instead of QB, inadvertently typed and failed to notice s instead of a on countless occasions, and guess what? I somehow survived despite knowing my mother with a masters in English would be ashamed of me.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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Alhan's picture

On the other hand, it may not be a typo.  If it were me, I would like to be corrected and given the opportunity to learn the correct usage.  I didn't think the correction was done unkindly.

"The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes." - EACommunityTeam

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Defiance's picture

and this right here is two people with different opinions can agree to disagree.

If only it were more prevalent in today's ultra judgmental and too often condescending conversations, the world (according to this 1 of 7.7B Earth inhabitants) would be a much more pleasant experience.

Thanks to you both for presenting sound and civil opinions to the table.

You've made our little 11W slice of Internet a better place for all!

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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Buctor's picture

Thanks. 

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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Buctor's picture

I do know the difference.  Lately I have become a bit careless with my self editing.  Apologies.

Beat everyone, in every sport, all the time!!!

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Buctor's picture

Agree, General Ray Odierno is a very impressive person.  But also agree footballl knowledge does not jump out of that writeup.  Hopefully fairness is an innate quality.  

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Homey1970's picture

Served under Odierno’s command in Iraq in 2010.  Still agree with this.  In fact, as a military retiree, I am incensed that retired general/flag officers use their rank and notoriety to enrich themselves in their post-military life.  Most GO/FOs’ pensions are six figures (for some, it’s 100% of their active duty base pay).  That’s a tax-payer funded pension.  

I don’t believe the committee members are paid a salary; however, the ‘notoriety’ piece to this selection process is not something a professional military leader should seek nor want.  The CFP committee should be composed of people with some meaningful tie to college football.

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BucksHave7's picture

Thank you for your service.  I’m fine with any profession which defends freedom and laws that puts your life on the line to be well compensated. 

BucksHave7

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ToTheHouse's picture

Thanks for your service 70, & to all active, and retired men and womem !

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Thank You for your service Homey!

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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cbusbornwrldwiderazed's picture

I also served under General Odierno in the above mentioned 03-04 campaign. Helluva leader who truly cared for his Soldiers and their families. Remembering when the Army decided to move the 4th completely to Fort Carson from Fort Hood, the question arose about the war memorial leaving with the division and him replying "that dog won't hunt". I hope he brings some reasonable advice to the committee. Great write up for a damn good military leader, Go Bucks!

"Old minds are like old horses; you must exercise them if you wish to keep them in working order."
John Adams

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Thank You for your service Cbus. 

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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cbusbornwrldwiderazed's picture

Hey 3yds you're welcome but no thanks necessary, I truly enjoyed my twenty years. It's this whole civilian work thing I'm having issues with lol.

"Old minds are like old horses; you must exercise them if you wish to keep them in working order."
John Adams

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Well a lot of Military service in my Family and extended relatives...not so much currently. My parents were the youngest of big families and I’m the youngest of six - so some of my older cousins are, well older. Matter of fact my oldest cousin served 20 in the Army, came home and became an instructor for like another 20. Retired, and is still teaching in some manner as a civilian. His father and his brother [so 2 of my uncles] were both at DDay. 

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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cbusbornwrldwiderazed's picture

The much tougher generation for sure, I grew up in a broken home and my Grandparents primarily raised me. My Grandfather was a WW2 vet, 3 Bronze stars (before it became a professional part on the back) from the Battle of the Bulge and one from Remagen bridge. He was a mean old SOB but he taught me hard work and respect. Anyways as I digress, tip of the cap my friend, it's always nice to hear the thanks. I do truly appreciate it.

"Old minds are like old horses; you must exercise them if you wish to keep them in working order."
John Adams

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cbusbornwrldwiderazed's picture

Double post.....

"Old minds are like old horses; you must exercise them if you wish to keep them in working order."
John Adams

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Buckfrombirth's picture

Glad (sadly, I suppose) to hear someone else finds post-military life less fulfilling than putting on the uniform every day. My memory of Gen Odierno is that his forces trusted him more than just about any other GO/FO and you never heard any stories of him taking undue advantage of the perks and political access afforded officers at that level. If he brings the same level of common sense to the Committee that he brought to the fight, I'm OK with it.

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cbusbornwrldwiderazed's picture

Well I just started vocational rehab through the VA, working in an accounting department for a nonprofit right now. It must be the military organizational skills because quite frankly it's a poop sack. But it's only temporary so there is that, next step is to complete my degree.

"Old minds are like old horses; you must exercise them if you wish to keep them in working order."
John Adams

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FeedZeke420's picture

Man, that's the truth the adjustment is hard.  I struggle to find self satisfaction at my current job it just seems so blah.  But I try and enjoy the things we miss out on while being in, mostly spending time with my wife and son.  Anytime I get to thinking about being back in I either picture having to watch my son grow up on skype, or ill also text my buddies that are still in to see what kind of bullshit they are putting up with and that seems to help enjoy civilian life a little better lol.

Go Bucks!

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Kevin Harrish's picture

Again, did not expect to find one, much less two people who actually served under him, but glad I did. Thank you for your service, as well.

cbusbornwrldwiderazed's picture

A bit late here but thanks Kevin, always a pleasure reading your work.

"Old minds are like old horses; you must exercise them if you wish to keep them in working order."
John Adams

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Buckfrombirth's picture

Thanks, Kevin. Never forget.

I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.

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Kalmar's picture

That's a nice retirement package. Not quite as good as Congress gets, with 1 term of service. 

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Buckfrombirth's picture

I'll defer on the Congress point to avoid politics (agree, though), but that military pension is a hard-earned one, especially for commanders at General Odierno's level. Their families often have no idea who they are because they are literally almost never home. The pay is good, but it comes at a very high personal cost. I currently work for a retired 3-star and he has talked at length about how he and his wife, though married almost 40 years, are having to learn how to live together all over again.

I survived Cooper, and I hate Tai Streets.

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Jagbuck's picture

As a twenty-six year veteran of the Army and one who has dealt with high level GO's and flag-level officers, I have to disagree about GO's not benefitting from status in retirement.  Most of these guys and ladies are extremely high powered folks who, with their experience and abilities, would easily make millions as CEO's of large companies.  Unless they are doing something that reflects poorly on the service or nation (like a certain Rear Admiral), I am fine with it.  That said, GEN Odierno is a strange choice for the committee.  

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Homey1970's picture

The counterpoint to this is that military service is a calling, not a means to enrichment.  If you’re talented enough to take those talents to another profession then nobody’s stopping you.

Every commissioned officer (including yours truly), once retired, will remain an officer on the retired roles until dismissed (for conduct unbecoming) or death.  The ethical standards we are held to on active duty remain.  It just may be due to my background but I do not agree on former officers using their notoriety to further their bank accounts or ‘celebrity’ status.  

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Homey1970's picture

*rolls

If anybody knows how to stop the autocomplete/autocorrect feature of iOS, hit me.

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I_Run_The_Dave's picture

The counter point is that their salary while on active duty is about 1/50th of what it would be for the equivalent responsibility in the private sector, so 20-30 years of retirement at 100% base pay is really nothing.

I still agree with your point about using rank/notoriety for personal gain after the fact, either via political careers or things like this.  It's an honor to serve, especially so with distinguished service such as his.  Don't tarnish that by dishonorable behavior after the fact.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

I for some reason did not expect to find folks who'd served under him in these here comments, but glad I did. Thank you for your service.

Homey1970's picture

To clarify, I commanded a joint unit (battalion size) under a Navy 1 star and then Army 1 star that were subordinate to Odierno as commander of US Forces - Iraq.  So, I wasn’t working for nor reporting directly to him.

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PhillyNut's picture

Neither did Rice have the football resume but she was probably one of the best on the committee. Would you rather have someone with extensive connections to football and the biases that come with it or someone who you know is really smart and will put in the time to make good, objective choices?

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buckeye_in_WI's picture

Option 3: not rely on a group of judges to pick the teams like an episode of american idol?

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buckeyedude's picture

Nailed it, Buckeye_in_WI! 

The present committee has a decidedly pro-SEC bias, and as fan of CFB, I'm sick of it! Georgia was a pubic hair shy of getting in this year. What a joke. 

"If you're not changing, you're falling behind."

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livinginthegrey's picture

Yeah, bring back the BCS computers! Take personal bias out of the conversation? 

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MikeLew's picture

Not the BCS computers, as they were terribly chosen, but yes, mathematically sound, pre-agreed-upon computers would be much better than the committee.

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Wargor's picture

Hell, it doesn't have to be super complicated computer models that require an MIT team to build.  Get something together that any decent Excel guy can handle and it will all be out in the open.  Sure, there will be points people disagree on (what is the Notre Dame rule, cause there obviously is one), but 90% of the BS can be cleared away and in the bargain we can get incentives for better football.  Think of a world where even an interested 12 year old can tell you that FCS wins only count 50% and that is mathematically why Alabama was left out.  

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lamplighter's picture

+1.  Rice knows football and she is really, really smart

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semperfibuck's picture

Gen Odierno might lack specific football knowledge but he doesn’t lack objectivity and common sense. Tell me, which of the so-called “experts” (who supposedly have football knowledge) would you put in charge? Herbie? Who called for 2-loss UGA to be in the CFP? Any ESPiN “analyst”? Their Power Rankings are a joke. The guy - Chris Falluca - who does the ESPiN betting? He gets about 50% of his choices wrong, and he gets to pick the games he wants to pick.  Give me the General and common sense over any of those football “experts.”

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buckeyedude's picture

First off, thank you for your service to our great country, Semperfibuck(three of my brothers are Marines)! #2) I wouldn't put any "experts" in charge. I would let each conference decide which of their team's is the best to represent them in the CFB playoff. 

"If you're not changing, you're falling behind."

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NavyBuckeye91's picture

Excellent points, Semperfibuck. 

I would also add that the CFP committee has consistently had someone like Ms Rice or Gen Odierno on the committee during its existence. 

One particular resason for this that I see is these people are well accustomed onbeing in a room full of enormous egos, and managing the discord that can produce. Try getting 13 different nations to agree on a military course of action. It ain’t easy. 

So while Gen O may not have the football experience some of the others have, he brings some essential qualities to that committee. Probably more than the sportswriter or two who usually have a seat at that table. 

"You beat cancer by how you live, why you live, & in the manner in which you live.
So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
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Wargor's picture

To further this point, just because he only has 2 years of football experience on the resume isn't really telling to how involved he is in college football.  That's two years more than me, but I've watched enough college football over the years to say that I have far from zero experience.  If the guy has a history of being an avid fan, that counts for a lot to me.  

If not, I would wonder a bit if there wasn't someone with equal integrity / gravitas who was a fan, but I'm still more than happy to see a quality individual with integrity take the spot over yet another AD with a vested interest in this, that, or the other.

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FeedZeke420's picture

He played a couple years of College Football and is the chairman or something of USA football his football creditials are fine.  I mean the dude played college football and the writer of this article has the nerve to question his ability to pick a playoff team lol. How many years of college ball did the writer of this article play?

Go Bucks!

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BbBnD's picture

Kevin’s years of direct football experience would only be relevant if he thought he should be on the committee instead of the General. You don’t need to be an expert to know someone else is not. Having said all of that, I don’t mind the pick even though I wasn’t aware of the guy until this post and can’t make informed comments on his credentials. 

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FeedZeke420's picture

My points being

A) He is a General and has made way tougher decisions than selecting a playoff team, its not that serious

B) The writer completely blows past his 2 years of college playing experience (which is more than the writer has) like it doesn't count.  Nobody knows how much football this guy watches/plays/coaches on his off time, but to act like this guy just played 2 years and never watched a snap of football afterwards is laughable.  He most likely is a very quality candidate that has played the game for two years at the level he is supposed to be judging.  I don't get the concern from the writer that the  General  might not know enough about football to pick a playoff team. Its not rocket science.

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Kevin Harrish's picture

To your first point, yeah I agree and I even said that in the article.

To the second point, he might be a college football expert, but their listing his (again, extremely impressive) accomplishments like that's what qualifies him, and I don't agree with that. And I'm not totally discounting the two years of college football he played over 40 years ago, but there are literally tens of thousands of people alive who've played two years of college football in the past 40 years. I'm not saying he's completely clueless about college football, I'm just saying his extremely impressive resume isn't really applicable.

FeedZeke420's picture

I see your point Kevin,  just for me personally his playing experience and being involved with USA football was enough to sell me on him being selected. I figure he has probably stayed engaged one way or the other with football since his playing days. Keep up the good work! I really enjoy the articles (even if I don't agree with everything all the time).

Go Bucks!

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Schizo's picture

I've worked with General Odierno a few times. If nothing else, he's a fast learner and readily admits what he doesn't know. If I had to guess he'll put together a competent support staff and at least take the job seriously. Plus other committee members will listen to his thoughts even if they don't agree with them.

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cledaybuck's picture

Is that necessarily a bad thing?  Sometimes, it is good to get an outsider's opinion.  Just look at what the committee full of football knowledge has done the last couple of years.  Heck, we made the playoff 2 of the 3 years that Rice was on the committee.

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ibuck's picture

aside from a two-year stint at Army, it has next to nothing to do with college football . . . it just feels like we keep getting further and further from football knowers deciding the best football teams in the country.

Agreed. But, based on results, the only abilities required on the CFP committee are being able to tell who has the fewest losses, and the willingness to listen gullibly to ESPN propaganda.

Hopefully fairness is an innate quality.  

If the General calls out ESPN for having their thumb on the scale, I'd be grateful for that innate quality.

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SC Buckete's picture

Maybe it’s just me, but that Friday night game at Northwestern with their newly minted 5 star transfer QB looks like trouble

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MountainsAwait's picture

That game brings back good memories 

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semperfibuck's picture

Tell me again why Gene Smith agreed to a Friday night game?

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Especially when Delany has adamantly refused to go to bat for us or the conference when it comes to the CFP. Sankey certainly hasn’t been fitted for that muzzle.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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cledaybuck's picture

I'm not sure the road team gets that much choice.

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blueblazer22's picture

This comment I really like. Understated and nicely done. I give my one upvote for this. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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Defiance's picture

#TRUTH$

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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buckslan's picture

Typical trap game. But both teams have 13 days to prepare for the game so, there shouldn't be any excuses.

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MichiBuck12's picture

I too have the Nebraska game circled as one to watch out for. They were much better at the end of the season this past year I do think Frost has them moving in the right direction. That QB they have is going to be a good one too if he stays healthy. 

I'm curious how Gattis is going to fare at michigan. For one thing, he has never called plays in his life, so this is a brand new role for him. Second, Jimmy isn't exactly one to give up control or change the way he does things. So it will be interesting to watch how this all works out. His track record shows he is a great receivers coach, but thats about all we know. Oh, he also cut his teeth under James Franklin, so if Harbaugh wanted a guy who knows how to shit the bed against the Buckeyes, a James Franklin protege is exactly what he'd be looking for.

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BucksHave7's picture

What is James Franklins’s record vs the Buckeyes?

BucksHave7

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BucksHave7's picture

Thanks. Help me out, what is your based your post on then regarding that comment?

BucksHave7

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BucksHave7's picture

Ahh, I read it again and now realized what you say. I get it and agreed completely.  Hard to do on an iphone on the treadmill. Go Bucks!

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Buckfrombirth's picture

Nice save, BH7. Good on ya'.

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

Has it been reported Jimmy is giving up playcalling?

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MichiBuck12's picture

According to the local radio guys in Grand Rapids, Gattis will have complete control of play calling. But you can color me skeptical on whether it works out that way.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Can working for Harbaugh really be any worse than working for Saban? By his account, Gattis had just gotten his ass chewed out after giving Saban notice that he was going to UMD. Saban probably called him every name in the book and made the guy feel two feet tall. (Someone should do one of those Hitler videos with Saban as Hitler being informed one coach after another is leaving.) No wonder he was thrilled Harbaugh called. Under those circumstances, who wouldn’t have been?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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JohnnyKozmo's picture

made the guy feel two feet tall.

Even if Gattis felt that way, Saban would still be looking up at him.   

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BiggHoww's picture

The Buck-I-guy beating out those other two fans is embarrassing. Stealing from a charity and depicting lynching are horrific acts.

The ugly truth is often downvoted

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brutus0717's picture

Yeah but Buck-I-Guy's body of work far outdouches the competition, unfortunately. It will be interesting to see where his "career" goes from here.

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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BiggHoww's picture

GTFOH, there is no amount of photo bombing or bad signatures. That compare to stealing ( which is a criminal act) or threatening to lynch someone over football ( could also be criminal).

The ugly truth is often downvoted

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brutus0717's picture

I'm not saying either of those other things aren't terrible, but years of charging for worthless autographs and pushing children out of their seats to get on television add up. 

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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blueblazer22's picture

I must heartily agree here. Buck I Guy is no treat, but a guy who depicts lynching has to be higher (lower?) on the list than this grandstander. Too bad that this category has to exist at all. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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Ohio Guy in Jersey's picture

Agree 100%. There is nothing, not a thing, that Buck-I-Guy has done alone or in the aggregate that compares to the level of stupidity and lack of humanity that the FSU fan offered up. Not just stupid, but a bad human being.

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BuckNut_1974's picture

Exactly! As bad as Buck-I-Guy is, there is no comparison between what he did and the other 2. Not even close.

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Reuben's picture

Maybe one of the runners up lost to Purdue this year. 

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Buckfrombirth's picture

HAHAHAHA!!!

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cledaybuck's picture

Especially considering the historical context, the picture depicting the lynching is far worse to me.

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CincyBuck's picture

Yep; agreed.  Buck-I-Guy's sin is definitely for pathetic/LOL-worthy.  But depicting someone as being lynched is, by far, the worse offense.

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awlinBrutus's picture

A decorated general couldn't be any worse than what is already in place right?

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iowabuckeyes's picture

At first, I found it ironic that a graduate of a non P5 school is on the committee when a non P5 school has less than a snowball’s chance in hell of ever getting in as long as the CFP remains at four teams. 

Then I checked who’s on the committee and was surprised to learn five of the 13 members have direct ties to non P5 schools.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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BbBnD's picture

That was my first though too, but then I started thinking it might be nice if the selection committee was solely made up of people without P5 ties. I imagine there’d be less bias, maybe with the exception of committee members that have ties to a team that won or lost that year to a P5 team being considered. Although, I’m guessing they’d put UCF in the CFP so maybe it’s not such a great plan. 

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Dillon G's picture

I'm not trying to sound grumpy or blast a guy who might be one of the most impressive human beings I've ever read about, it just feel like we keep getting further and further from football knowers deciding the best football teams in the country.

Having people with an agenda is actually the worst. After all, you don't have to be a heroine addict to know it is bad. 

I want to poke fun at how hilarious it is that a September game against Nebraska makes this list when Ohio State has Cincinnati, Wisconsin, Michigan State

Scott certainly has work to do. Just like the Browns who ended the season with 5 wins in 8? He will bring in players.

#walkaway

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StrongBuck's picture

What were you googling yesterday to come up with those Link Locker articles?

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Yeah. I was reading the link about things said before death. My Parents, In-laws, and a close Aunt we cared for = all had some time in Hospice except my Dad. My Father in law in his last few weeks, would speak of his time in the Army, where he served in Louisville. He’d talk to and speak of his wife [mother in-law] as if she were in the room - she had passed a few years prior. We went with it so not to frighten him or anything like that. He even imagined that one of the nurses crawled into his bed w him. Okay we had some fun w that, but tomhim it was real. 

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

I am convinced that with my last dying breath, my final uttterance will be “Bauserman!” And those gathered around, who will undoubtedly be few, will assume it was the name I gave my sled as a child.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Hey, hey. Take it easy on Joe Throw already. I was at that Akron game and hit that guy in stride; three rows up in A, but still in stride. 

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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cledaybuck's picture

Hold on there.  Akron was his finest moment.  He was 12/16 for 163 yards and 3 TD plus 6 carries for 32 yards and another TD.

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

I stand corrected! Well I was there. I was like 75 and sunny, but felt hotter. fwiw I can swear he did throw one ob that cleared the team, the benches, and the coolers. 

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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cledaybuck's picture

If you are so inclined, take a look at some of the game stats from that year.  There was only one game (UM) where our leading passer threw for over 200 yards and 7 games where it was under 100!

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Oh, not hating on Joe B. Just having some fun. What’s a kid to do; say he doesn’t want to play?

I had mad man-love for Steve Bellisari - so sorta feel for Joe. 

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Check out digg.com today for a preview of tomorrow's Link Locker stories.

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dan_isaacs's picture

Yeah, I think DJ spoiled us with his spectacular WMD's.  

Dan Isaacs

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BroJim's picture

Kosovo!!

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mtrotb's picture

I will say this: you grow up in California, commit to a school in far northwest(Wash), then school in southwest(A&M), then attend school in Ohio, now you are going to school in FL.  My crystal ball predicts a nice future as travel agent or working for Fodors travel guides.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

1) You missed Las Vegas in your tale of Tate’s travails.

2) I hear Hilton Grand Vacations is hiring.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

Buck I Guy is that hot water garbage juice run off at the bottom of the can on a hot August day 

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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Major H's picture

Hemingway lives!

I'd rather be an hour early than a minute late.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

I got a way with words when it is someone or something I truly detest.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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PhillyNut's picture

To be fair to Lincoln Riley he told the kid not "anytime soon". Apparently in Oklahoma that phrase covers about 14 days.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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brutus0717's picture

Everybody knew Hurts was going to transfer, and while Oklahoma is a pretty good landing spot, I'm not sure they were the initial favorite. Either way, Rattler has some learning to do before he can take the reigns.

"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM

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3SticksBucks's picture

Is the General Odierno sitting next to Carrot Top or Ellen when they watch film???

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Spivan's picture

Never served under him during my time in, but knew a lot of guys who did. Well respected for the most part.

I think the committee is trying to bring other people that get attention rather than active ADs and former coaches who they have taken some heat for.

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Thank You for your service Spivan!

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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Dillon G's picture

That is pretty much what I see. Having Gene Smith is also not good. The person who can speak with authority on the starters and the other starters (back ups) is not allowed to do so. And when he leaves Frank. Beamer gets to say what he wants.

BC lost to Indiana? So what. Rank them 24.

#walkaway

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blueblazer22's picture

Precocious puberty is one that I have never heard of I will admit. Sounds like a challenge and a half to grow up with no doubt. 

Lincoln Riley accepted Hurts as a transfer, but I suppose there is a chance that Jalen isn't the starter? Maybe the recruit is still the guy with Kyler bolting for the pros. 

Can we please do away with the committee? There are some impressive folks on it, especially a former chief of staff now, but let's find another way. 

"They say, "these geeks come a dime a dozen.  I'm lookin' for the guy who's supplyin' the dimes." -Classy Freddie Blassie

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buckeyedude's picture

Coming from a military family myself, I have mucho respecto for General Odierno. But I don't think this is going to help.  

I've said it so many times that I'm going to start getting DV'd for it; but they, the CFB playoff committee, needs to get the human element out of the playoff selection process and just take the conference champions, regardless of record. Give the power to the conferences, not some random people. 

But then they lose power and control, so we know that ain't happenin'. 

"If you're not changing, you're falling behind."

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hetuck's picture

1. Buck-I-Guy signing the Bruce memorial was execrable, but it pales in comparison to the other entries. 

2. So will Gen. Odierno have to sit out when Army is discussed?

Winning is a habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.

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Tony Stark's picture

I'd rather have General Ray Odierno on the Presidential cabinet than the football playoff committee.

Second thought.  the worse fan only poll only took account the one act of BuckIGuy, not his aggregate work.  I can see how his one afternoon of thoughtless douchery is worse than knowingly stealing charity tickets or an intentional lynching post.

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Tony Stark's picture

EDIT:  I CANNOT see how his one act is worse than the others

Tony Stark

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Defiance's picture

While it's really a matter of:

sometimes it just comes down to:

"Defiance in Silence" 

Shhhh

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buckeyetodd's picture

You need to hire a proofreader.

ToddT

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BUCKEYEYANKEE's picture

Not all football coaches tell the truth go figure! You had better get used to the execrable business of college football Mr. Spencer Rattler! 

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Hovenaut's picture

Yeah, I have to admit I struggle a bit with the fact that while Ohio State football isn't worthy to be voted into the CFP three years running, but their noted superfan walks off with the best worst fan award going away.

Because that's a great look for the sport.

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

Please tell me I’m wrong, but I thought I saw a wannabe late this season - in addition to the Big 3 “superfans” we have?

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Why can’t we have an attractive female super fan? The cameras never seem to fail to find them when SEC teams are playing. I’d pass the hat for Buckeye Lacrosse Girl to be the fresh new face of Buckeye Nation. Instead, we get the modern equivalent of these three tools. Why, I oughta...

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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3ydncloudofdust's picture

What? No hotties yet?  It’s been 26 mins already!  Maybe a thread for the Forum?

"Three things can happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad." - Woody

 

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Turfgrad's picture

Ohio against the world!  Remember Hov?  Even after Meyer is gone, they all still hate us.

"I think Alabama would beat Ohio State if they played next weekend!" Clay Travis Fox Sports Post Championship Show 1.12.2015.  Needs no explanation.

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Hovenaut's picture

Been that way as long as I can remember, and I'm cool with it.

I'm not around that much, running exhausted and lost...

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Turfgrad's picture

Me likes, too!

"I think Alabama would beat Ohio State if they played next weekend!" Clay Travis Fox Sports Post Championship Show 1.12.2015.  Needs no explanation.

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

(RE: ghost boy story) Can’t for the life of me figure out how no one has sued a pharmaceutical company’s pants off (or some hospital or doctor) for the opioid crisis. Like everything, they KNEW it was addictive.   Jusr ridiculous and immoral. And while I’m on this soap box, still don’t know how someone hasn’t sued the pants of the NFL for covering up what they knew about CTE. 

You win with people. 

And so forth...

9 Units Strong!

 

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lamplighter's picture

especially the doctors that continually prescribed the stuff

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peidiwch â ffycin gyda'r Cymry
 

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J-Buck's picture

ding, ding, ding....this ^^^^^^

I'm a peacock Captain, you gotta let me fly!!

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ShawneeBuck74's picture

Thanks for that find. Wow. Storms a-brewing for the “legal” drug dealers. 

You win with people. 

And so forth...

9 Units Strong!

 

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WeAllBleedScarlet's picture

“He earned a bachelor's degree from the United States Military Academy at West Point”

Let me guess, this guy is the “representative” for the northeast, Great Lakes and Midwest to balance out the 14 reps for the south and southwest.

See you at 16 when we finally make this thing less riggable

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Tater_Schroeder's picture

Interesting story about paying $8000 for some "young blood". As someone who has had a blood transfusion before (due to very serious anemia), I can tell you I felt 1000% better immediately after the transfusion (temporary high, as my hemoglobin count started draining again). Nothing to do with the age of the donor however, so I suspect this young blood thing is an expensive gimmick. 

Pray for potatoes with a hoe in your hand.

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BucksHave7's picture

Buckeyes lead the CBS list of Seniors spurning the draft for their senior year of college football.  Hill, Fuller and Harrison!!!  Only 14 on the list and the Bucks had 3!  Gonna be another great year!

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BucksHave7's picture

Btw: Hope I dont ruin the 'credibility' of this list. But only TTUN (Patterson) and Sparty (Willikes) were the other B10 schools w 1 each.  And only LSU had 2, all other schools only Had 1. 

Go Bucks!!!!

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BuckeyeRealist13's picture

I can’t decide if it’ll be @ Nebraska or @ Northwestern where Ohio State loses by 30

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BuckNutsinIndiana's picture

i went to Iowa in ‘17, Purdue ‘18 and plan on Northwestern ‘19, for the love of my 11 year old, please not this game as he already thinks OSU loses bc of us attending the game.

I dont often hate, but when I do...I hate _ichigan Wolverines. Stay victorious my friends.

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

Nah - Billy Davis be gone so we good.

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MDBuckeyes's picture

I'm more concerned about everyone else I listed than I am Michigan, because if my life has taught me anything it's that the Wolverines will absolutely self destruct come late November.

I have seen the opposite happen - it was the 90s. Actually, it was the whole 13 seasons before Tressel. Don't forget the past, lest we repeat.  

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mr.green's picture

Amen. Never take them lightly. 

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huber57's picture

I had the honor of meeting Gen. Odierno in 1998 when I was a young second lieutenant in Germany. The guy is larger than life and was such an amazing leader. I don't know if he knows anything about college football but this choice can't hurt.

Why does Dublin have so many round-abouts? Because everyone in Dublin thinks they have the right-of-way.

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iowabuckeyes's picture

Is it too much to ask him to carpet bomb the SEC? Clemson would become collateral damage from torching SCar.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

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kmp10's picture

I'm not trying to sound grumpy or blast a guy who might be one of the most impressive human beings I've ever read about, it just feel like we keep getting further and further from football knowers deciding the best football teams in the country.

It seems that you're questioning whether or not a man who actually played college football is a 'football knower,' but I wonder if you were one of the people who had no issue whatsoever with Condoleezza Rice, a woman, like all other women, who had never played/coached/had anything to do with football other than to have "watched every super bowl" with her father being a decider in that room? If you want to question who does and doesn't belong on that committee, which is fair, it seems to me that you should have started asking that question when Rice was a member through 2016. She was there for no other reason than to placate people who want 'gender equality' in football... which is comical, imo. And I'm well aware of her diplomacy pedigree, but there were plenty of men who had actually been involved with football who would have been infinitely better options. 

When I die, sprinkle my ashes over the 70's 

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cledaybuck's picture

What a stupid, sexist take. 

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HOLYbucknut's picture

I hold the same opinion as Kevin and I hated the Rice hire for the committee for the same reason I don’t like this one. The guy played 45 years ago. I don’t doubt that he’s a GREAT general and an exceptional chairman for the organizations that he heads but I’d prefer someone with a little more recent hands on experience at the risk of said members trying to get their conference in. Granted the general has infinite amounts of experience over Rice.

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Cooper's picture

She was there for no other reason than to placate people who want 'gender equality' in football

Lol and you don't think this decision is being made to placate a certain demographic that watches football, the same sport in which the professional league accepted $10 million so that the Department of Defense could use the league as a marketing and advertising ploy?

The guy knows as much college football as the rest of us.

This is definitely where I parked my car.

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cledaybuck's picture

Gender equality= 1 woman on a 16 person committee?

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soldierdad's picture

Riley was no different than Day.  Act as if the next man up is your guy all the while talking with transfer portal individuals about how their strengths can be broadened in your program.   Day at least basically said that they’ll explore all options to make the team better, where Riley basically said we’re good.  Day seemed to recruit over a two year, next man up, program guy.  Riley had a 5 star unproven freshmen.  If there’s a villain who is it?  If there’s no villain than why would either coach parse their intention.

The soldier is my son.  The school I gone to didn’t teach much grammar.  

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buckeyepastor's picture

Nebraska and Northwestern fall early nough in the season to be problematic for a team breaking in a fairly young offensive line and a new QB.  The Huskers have a talented dual-threat QB to contain and a very good run game.  Apart from Spielman, I don’t think they have anyone noteworthy to throw the ball to.  I will say, living out here in Nebraska, they are getting bold and trash talking about this season for the first time really since joining the conference.  NW won the West last year and will be a tough “out” for us.  Glad we get Cincy at home.  Don’t know how much they return from last year, but Fickell got them to double-digit wins in 2018.  

"Woody would have wanted it that way" 

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soldierdad's picture

The committee obviously has rabbit ears.  What better place to hide than behind a 4 star?  

The soldier is my son.  The school I gone to didn’t teach much grammar.  

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SecondGuyIn's picture

I wonder what the M...igan narrative would be if they were playing in Columbus this year. Ohio State has some big shoes to fill, but so do the Wolverines. 

Go Buckeyes.

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thunderhawks51's picture

"if there was any Band-Aid to the bruise"

Just another example of why they're so soft up there. You should stop putting Band-Aids on bruises after the age of 3. 

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NorCal Buckeye's picture

Shoot, we've never done that. My boys have heard the term "get up, you're good" plenty of times since they were small. Even got a nonchalant "walk it off, Dad" from my 8 year old when I severely jammed my toes on an ottoman.

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BUCKEYE3M's picture

it just feel like we keep getting further and further from football knowers deciding the best football teams in the country.

Kind of like figure skating, huh? 

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southalabamabuckeye's picture

It's got to happen for coach Jim Harbaugh and the Wolverines eventually, right?

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Stinson's picture

"Imagine being so universally loathed that a strong majority of voters consider you more malicious and embarrassing than a dude who photoshopped a head coach into a picture of a lynching."

and yet here we are.

"The height of human desire is what wins, whether it's on Normandy Beach or in Ohio Stadium." -Wayne Woodrow Hayes

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My Dad Is A Wolverine But I'm A Buckeye's picture

Does the new general have the authority to court martial the other members of the committee for servicing the SEC too much?

Number 1 rule in life: always beat That Team Up North. 

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

At this point the powers that be can bring in the lovely ladies from The View to be on their committee for all I care.

The composition used for selection won’t change a damn thing until the playoff structure is improved unless they put Archie, Urban, Kern, Krenzel, Smith, Nicklaus, the last band member who dotted the i, and Cardale, (all at the same time) on that committee.

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58Buckeye's picture

The composition used for selection won’t change a damn thing until the playoff structure is improved unless they put Archie, Urban, Kern, Krenzel, Smith, Nicklaus, the last band member who dotted the i, and Cardale, (all at the same time) on that committee.

Evidently you don't understand how the committee works. If you had all those on the committee you would have 8 people who absolutely could not vote for OSU. They would all have to leave the room when OSU was discussed. What you need is a boat load of B1G reps. who are not affiliated with OSU. 

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causeicouldntgo43's picture

Just sarcasm and hyperbole, but you are right, I don’t understand how the committee works since they keep changing the weighting of the criteria all the time.

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Madtown_Buckeye_16's picture

Well, it's a big ten west game on the road in the middle of the season, so of course I'm terrified. This might be a hot take, but I'm excited to see what Lincoln Riley can do with Jalen Hurts. I like Riley, and anything to get us away from the Clemson-Alabama matchups I'm all for. Speaking of,  year after year of Clemson - Alabama has to be bad for the sport, no? 

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buckeyeupnorth's picture

So people accused the committee of being biased because the current makeup had football coaches on it from the SEC , etc. who were 'too close to the game". 

Now we have people accusing the committee of getting away from the game because they placed someone on it who isn't a recent coach from the SEC. 

Apparently, the committee should simply do what it thinks is right because they will be criticized from the peanut gallery no matter what they do.

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thedewman10's picture

There is no way I believe a coach would ever lie. That would be extremely execrable. Now hang on while I get back to real life with my very execrable vehicle and go to the execrable shopping mall. 

And I like the words of the day.

TheDewMan10

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yantubos's picture

Here's an idea to fix some of these playoff problems. Why not standardize how schedules are made? That way, the Big 10 isn't playing more meaningful games than the ACC and SEC? If everyone has the same number of conference games, we can at least agree who did better in those games (and who sucked against "inferior" competition).

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chibucks's picture

I love Riley acting like it was his own noble choice not to sign one of the most coveted transfer quarterbacks in recent memory, as if he wouldn't do it in a heartbeat if he kid wanted to come to Norman.

also - for a university that has used the transfer system, for them to block / not support their team members' transfers is a little hypocritical...

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Buckeye Greek's picture

Am I the only one who is not happy 2 of the 3 new committee members are from the South?  #secbias #ESPNownsSEC

scUM - "Those who stay, will NOT be champions!"

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ShowThemOhiosHere's picture

I want to poke fun at how hilarious it is that a September game against Nebraska makes this list when Ohio State has Cincinnati, Wisconsin, Michigan State and a late November matchup with Penn State on the docket, but if I'm honest the corn people do have me a bit rattled.

Personally, I'm far more concerned about that Nebraska game than any of those other 3 games.  I think worst case, Cincinnati tests OSU a bit, but I don't think they'll actually win.  Wisconsin and MSU better step their shit up from this past season if they want to come into the 'Shoe and leave with a W.  I'm not convinced their boring styles can beat OSU...TTUN does it with better talent and still can't get the job done.  Nebraska, though...for as absolute shit as they were at the start of the season, they played much better football down the stretch.  It's like getting that first win changed everything for them.  Their 4-8 team gave OSU quite a tussle.  They will be much better this season.  It's in their place.  It sets up almost perfectly for a statement win for Frost.  Let's just hope if that happens, it's not a blowout, and OSU can face them again and even the score in Indy.  

Speaking of The Game, it is in Ann Arbor, they do have their QB back, they lose a lot on D and that never seems to matter.  Still, I'm not going to be convinced that OSU is in any danger whatsoever of losing to them until I see it play that way on the field.  I'm sorry, but I heard way too many TTUN fans talk way too much shit this past season about how they were going to beat OSU, handily I might add, and yet, OSU whooped that ass far worse than ever before.  The 23 point margin of victory understates how much of a beating that was.  

I remember one of my good friends, a TTUN fan, saying back in 2011 "if we don't beat you this year, we may never beat you again".  Well, last year's game almost feels like that type of loss.  Or it's the kind of loss that awakes a sleeping giant.  I don't know...I don't trust Harbaugh's coaching to make 2019 like it was 50 years earlier.  I won't buy their hype until I see it on the field against OSU.

Class of 2010.

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Bourbon Meyer's picture

Pizza Mike signed Coach Bruce’s banner. Why should’nt Buck-I-Guy?

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Bourbon Meyer's picture

Pizza Mike signed Coach Bruce’s banner. Why should’nt Buck-I-Guy?

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Bourbon Meyer's picture

I think the vote for Buck-I-Guy as number 1 kinda reflects the divisions in our society, don’t you? Eleven Warriors picked up on it.

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