Met quota on last part.
Looks like Dawand Jones is re-scheduling for next week due to the weather.
Not sure if Devonshire made it in
247 shows Devonshire visit starting the 18th or maybe I'm just making that up.
Is there any idea how many players the recruitniks feel this class ends up with by NSD? Or is it still pretty up in the air?
Any outside shots at top-150 players (ala an Urban Meyer signing day surprise)? Too early to tell with the new coaches still coming in? To be honest I've kind of lost track of recruiting with all of the coaching goings-on lately.
Edit after searching: It looks like essentially all but maybe 10 players in the top 300 are committed at this point; early signing day looks like it's robbing a lot of the intrigue these days.
Can't blame you for losing track. The past 3 recruiting threads have been hijacked by Corey Raymond talk, the coach that never was.
"The Edge is where average stops and elite begins"
Wouldn't expect a signing day surprise this year unless it's another transfer.
Just not enough time to build any kind of relationship unless there a Woodbey we can swoop up at the last minute. And correct the main focus has been on finalizing a staff. I would expect a surprise or a couple in the 2020 class as things are back to normal now.
I would guess the answer is "more than 17." With 9 seniors this past year, 6 guys declaring early, and 2 more (Martell and Snead) who I'd like to see back but are probably gone, you've already opened up that many slots. Given the number of guys who would be 5th-year seniors next year, some of whom will not start or perhaps even fit into a rotation, I could see a 2-3 grad transfers out from that group alone, and there's always the random regular transfer or 2, even if decisions aren't made until after the spring game. I'm no recruiting, but with Fields, 15 signees, one other commit, and probably a desire to add an OL, a CB and a QB, I'm gonna predict the total ends up being 20 including transfers in.
And this folks is why he is already one of the best recruiters in the game right now:
So encouraging to read that and hoping it rubs off on other guys. Hafley has already been reaching out to a lot of 2020 DB's so that's good to see too.
Should also add that BG is close with Brian and his family. I preface this by saying BG reported Hartline telling him he loves his current job so much that he has no ambitions of becoming a head coach or leaving in the next 10-15 years. Often that's coach speak but BG said he believes him 100%
As long as he doesnt believe him 110%!!
The juice is worth the squeeze
Didn't watch much of the game, but I saw that...immediately noticed the receptiveness to the coaching.
New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.
Wiltfong saying the three teams Martell is down to are wvu, Miami and Louisville.
At WVU today, Miami tomorrow. Looks like it is between those two. No date set a Louisville yet.
Sounds like he is done for sure at OSU. My guess is Miami will be the one. Teammates there. New coaches. Lifestyle up his ally.
Stay golden, Ponyboy.
He'd be smart to go to WVU. He would put up giant numbers in the BIG 12 because everyone does. He would get a lot of attention being that he would be the star on campus..probably the highest or close to highest rated player ever to play there. In Miami he would just be another dude in relation to that university.
The other two cities are substantially more fun to live in, though.
The most "loud mouth, disrespect" poster on 11W.
True. I think it comes down to does Tate want a better chance at becoming Baker Mayfield or Johnny Manziel.
WVU = Baker
Miami = Johnny
Don't know anything about Louisville except that their Athletic Department is a mess right now.
I don't think what Tate will become depends on the city of the school in which he transfers to.
I really like Tate as a player and I like his potential as a college QB but if he was wasn’t going to beat out Fields, it’s best he leaves now. Fields and Baldwin can battle it out and not have to share reps with another guy and Tate can start learning a new system. Yes, I’m a little concerned about depth but if you’re 3rd string QB is getting meaningful playing time, you’re probably in trouble anyway. 12 Gauge may have spoiled us.
Didn’t Miami have a young, highly rated QB that was going to transfer but then decided to stay?
Fields of Dreams
There was never any turning back once he entered the transferred portal and washed Ohio State out from his twitter acct..
You mean I live in the Ville and I still might get the Tate Experience?? Woo boy.
I want a fall Saturday in Ohio Stadium..
Wiltfong just updated his story. Tate will visit Louisville on Wednesday and Thursday.
Sooner this is over the better for everyone. Osu will now need to bring in a 4th qb via recruitment or transfer
Fresh digs. Thanks Spooner.
Could we have interest in a Lamont Wade transfer? I know we were high on his list but chose PSU because they told him he was a corner... but promptly was moved to safety.
He chose PSU because we didn't have room
I tried bum juice once, it was bitterly disappointing.
True, I forgot about that one. That was a sick DB haul that year.
It came down to him and Marcus Williams. Who ever committed first got the spot. They didn't want to take two corners under 6 feet
Chose PSU bc we had Williamson already committed and we were not going to take another corner under 6 foot not named Darnay Holmes that year.
Any chance Stud could still go to Maryland, I was trying to see if they were done with their staff...I know we wanted to get things final before recruiting started again but with few recruits left to get was still hopeful someone picked him up as new coaches filled out their staffs
Hoping it's an early April fools joke that he's still around and Day will replace him after the next signing day.
Rooting for MD to not have any OL coaching options at all and they go all out for Stud. MD's 247 board thinks he's a good recruiter........shhhhh nobody tell them :)
I think that even the most dense of us have gotten your point that you don't like him and want him gone.
So is this a second account where you unleash anger? I went through upur post history. Yikes.
It has nothing to do with anger. There is no anger. These boards used to provide useful information-not the negativity toward the players, coaches and programs that is so prevalent now. I prefer to call it frustration with the ad hominem attacks. I've been consistent in this view relative to both football and basketball. And please note that I have always supported the players, coaches and the programs.
Now I'm gonna bring it up every time we miss out on a top OL prospect :)
Anyway, there is room for discussion, no doubt. I respect the hell out of you and what you bring. I just believe that this technology has made it easy for people to take anonymous shots without accountability. You may or may not have seen my post under the Jones recruitment thread. I am pasting it again just to show that there may be other opinions that don't necessarily call for someone to get axed. (Thx for your response, btw )
"Whatever is said about his recruiting, he sure seems to have done ok in developing NFL quality linemen. Remember when Mumford was recruited no one had heard of him and he was a late add. Now some suggest he will leave early. Also, that guy, Michael Jordan who moved over to center this year from guard. All he did was garner All-American accolades.
Let others recruit. His reputation and coaching ability is a pretty good selling point. What's more, his playersseem to respect and like him."
We can let others recruit, but sometimes recruits would like to develop the relationship with their position coach. But I agree, he's definitely developed some of the guys!
Those who say they can and those who say they can't are both right. Which one are you?
We've landed several top OL prospects in all the recruiting cycles under Stud including elite 5 stars from across the country like NPF, Davis, and Miller, along with some very high 4 stars like Jones, Meyers, Nester. Yes there have been some misses as well but it's OL recruiting is not the disaster you keep painting it as.
You're right and wrong. OL recruiting hasn't been terrible, but Studs OL recruiting has been terrible. The other coaches, mostly Meyer, Day and Schiano have brought in your above mentioned.
Did anyone mention that Brian Down put in a CB for MJ Devonshire to Pitt?
East Coast living with Ohio roots
Will be interesting what they do at corner. Arnette is back but I think Sheffield is gone. He is not in Columbus and is in Texas. Pretty sure the semester has already started. Still think they need a corner in this class.
Devonshire signing would actually be similar to Arnette signing 4 years ago. 3* CB who was probably in the class late because OSU missed on some higher ranked targets. While not a star, Arnette has played a lot of games for OSU (with more to come) due to early entries and we could use a guy like that in this class for depth.
They absolutely need a cornerback in this class. I wonder if they can convince Elam to come up here.
Givler teased his paywalled piece by saying there has been a turn in the recruitment on what was a long shot recruit. Hopefully it is about Elam but I suspect it is about Fred Davis who was talked about today by some other guys.
He was referencing Enokk Vimahi.
Very interesting! Thanks.
Very hard to see how we could win that one. Joined the battle late, announces in a week, from HI.
Wasn’t he at Oklahoma this past weekend?
So what about him? They think we have a chance now?
Nicholas l Ernst
According to Givler.....Vimahi made a scheduled trip to OU. During his visit he indicated to the OU staff that he planned to take OV to Ohio State before NSD. Givler still thinks it is a long long shot to land Vimahi but it certainly is not dead.
I wonder if Sheffield graduated already? Although I do agree with you that he is probably going to declare.
There any news on the George Pickens/Noa Pola-Gates front?
It's a beautiful day in Columbus, Ohio... and TTUN still sucks.
Many crystal balls for Pola-Gates to Nebraska the past couple days.
I was wondering the same thing CardaleFTW, haven't heard anything about either lately.
Per BK this morning:
1. Feels good about Nester ending up at OSU. PSU biggest threat but OSU wants him in the fold this weekend. Keeping Stud has tilted this heavily for OSU again.
2. Jones would probably commit if OSU pushes for one.
3. Same with Devonshire. Right now it is Pitt and Devonshire is set to visit this weekend...not for certain though. OSU pushes for a commit would probably get him.
4. Feels Sheffield is gone.
5. Paris Johnson trending up and more comfortable with Day.
What led to Greg Studrawa staying on at #OhioState? That and plenty of #Buckeyes recruiting talk between @Bill_Kurelic and @davebiddle this morning (FREE)https://t.co/7OaovWeZox
— Bucknuts (@Bucknuts247) January 14, 2019
It had been the assumption for a while that @CoachStudOL would return to @OhioStateFB. But there had been some rumblings about him rejoining new coach Mike Locksley with the Maryland Terps. Now I can confirm that Greg Studrawa will be back to coach the Buckeyes' O-line in 2019.
— Bill Rabinowitz (@brdispatch) January 14, 2019
The world is yours
Well there it is. Can pretty much put Nester in this class for good now.
I'm on board with it. Ryan Day is an offensive genius and I'm not going to second guess him if he thinks Stud is capable of doing the job. Also, for all his "recruiting woes" I find it ironic one of the best offensive linemen in the country almost decommitted because of him possibly not being here. He's not a recruiting savant, but I don't think he's terrible at it either, and he's clearly capable of building relationships, i.e Nester.
Day completely remade the defensive staff, minus LJ. I'm more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on the offensive side since he's familiar with that room of coaches. I know all the talk about Stud and him not being a very good recruiter. If what is accurate in the other thread about what a national writer/recruiting person said in regards to Urban getting soft, I'd have to imagine Stud is fully aware that he's got a bulls eye on his back this season, on and off the field. His unit better be ready to play, and he better be on the road recruiting or Day will replace him.
You're too stupid to have a good time. -Dalton
Enokk Vimahi was supposed to announce his decision at the Polynesian Bowl... he has delayed it until NSD.
Has he been to campus? I would imagine it's vital to get him in for an OV with such a small window of time remaining.
No he hasn't yet but they are trying to get that done.
It didn't stop Dwan Mathis from committing to Georgia.
The more I think about that, the weirder it gets.
"I don't think you necessarily have to get a trophy to be a winner." - Nick Saban 1/2/15.
Per BK....Enokk's OV will be Jan 26 or February 2
Oh great a kid from Hawaii visiting during the dead of winter haha.
He should have came the week it was lows in the 40s lol
Very good news that he is pushing back his decision. Pushing it back in hopes of being able to make the trip. Keeping Nester and adding him and Dawand Jones would be huge for Oline depth.
Another crystal ball to Pitt for Devonshire by a PSU insider. Seemed like everyone assumed that interest from OSU would equal a commit, but might need to hold off on that a bit.
That is because OSU is not pushing for a commit from him. Once they do, many have said he would commit to OSU...If he visits this weekend he should be a Buckeye. If he does not, then he won't be.
I read somewhere this morning that Devonshire might not be a take since Arnette is returning. I don't understand the logic behind it but read that somewhere today.
It could be because they will not have that roster spot available now that Arnette is coming back. They were figuring on Arnette leaving thus opening a scholly for Devonshire. Makes reasonable sense to me.
This is definitely about roster spots. Offensive line is much more of a priority.
I'm good with it also because while we have one more year of Arnette(which isn't great) it saves us from 4-5 years of guy that probably has a ceiling of being the same player as Arnette.
You mean a defensive back who will play in the NFL? Yeah we are in such trouble.
"I find your lack of kalua disturbing" - Darth Lebowski
Arnette is not playing in the league. He may hang on to practice squad for a couple year but the dude is not an NFL player.
He absolutely can be an NFL safety, and I think he'll play a lot better this year as we'll see more zone concepts as opposed to press man which is where Arnette struggled most.
Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite
IDK, I think he's going to play on Sundays. I bet he looks pretty significantly better next year with a different coach.
I truly hope that is the case. I would love to be wrong and he goes off and is an All American next season. I just haven't seen anything that gives me confidence that it will happen. He commits too many penalties and gets lost in coverage far too often but this was all in man coverage. If they are making that switch to more zone D and it fits him better then that would be awesome and make me super happy. One massive positive that I will say about him is that he always seems to give everything he has and he has never been in trouble so he seems to be a good guy.
He plays more snaps in the league than Haskins
I'll defend you. Arnette won't play a snap in the NFL. If you believe otherwise then you're blindly riding the wave of recent success by OSU DBs in the league. Arnette is pedestrian.
Kitties aren't supposed to smell like cigarettes, they're supposed to smell like kitties.
I think Arnette coming back caught them by surprise
I could see that. They have lots of bodies at CB right now. I would prefer they didn't reach as they don't tend to work out in the defensive backfield from what I've seen.
Agreed...better off taking an extra next year in that loaded 2020 class.
Yeah, the logic with the Arnette thing is a bit surprising to me. I figure they would love to have a DB in the class either way or a linemen. Seems like they have a bit of room in there.
To be clear (if you didn't click the link), I think this is more about Arnette returning vs. Pitt beating OSU (if no visit happens) https://t.co/fFEQ7INSsO
— Alex Gleitman (@alexgleitman) January 14, 2019
Nothing against Gleitman, but I’d find that hard to believe that an incoming true freshman is affected that much by a guy coming back for one year. Is he going to beat out Okudah and Wade? Banks and Johnson? Or maybe we cooled on him?
Has nothing to do with beating guys out, has to do with scholarships available.
Something not mentioned in the BM5 notes above is BG said it's worth noting the 2019 and 2020 commits all wanted Stud back very strongly. He said he realizes his bad rep but that is to be considered. If he ends with Enokk and Dawand it would be a very good class with 1 5 star 3 4 stars and a good project player. He may not deserve the credit for it but I can understand why Day wouldn't be quick to dump him
Him staying is not worth me dying on the message board hill. Day did what he needed to do with the defense.
Hopefully he secures Jones, Nester and Enokk would be a massive late steal
I personally think he earned at least another year. The line improved though the year and was playing the best at the end of the season. Their #1 priority was to keep Haskins upright and they did an extremely good job at that. The run game issues to me were more about scheme then bad oline play.
He turned Munford from project player to very good LT by his sophomore season, he moved a guard to center 3 years in a row and 2 won the Rimington, with the 3rd being an All American by multiple outlets. He may not regularly land top tier recruits, but he absolutely develops talent.
Since most of this thread rags on his recruiting, 247 credits him with ALOT of studs: https://247sports.com/Coach/Greg-Studrawa-263/AllTimeRecruits/
Even if you only include his "Primary" recruits, the list is still more impressive than people give him credit for.
+1 for the "studs" pun.
You do realize that 247's list is very inaccurate right?
The only 4 dudes that he was actually responsible for are Pocic, Munford, Pridgeon, and Nester. I mean they have him credited for WR Blue Smith lmao!
You wanna know all about the mighty recruiter he is? Go ask Ryan Ginn who's a former Buckeye beat reporter from Louisiana about his recruiting efforts from down there and up here. Long story short you don't magically get better as a recruiter.
When you have Birm, Givler, Ginn, and BG reporting on how bad of a recruiter he is it means he's freaking bad at it. They don't pull crap out of their butts just to spite a staff member. How else do you explain Paris Johnson being on campus nearly 30 times and he's yet to actually have a conversation with you? Not like the kid is a 5* tackle from your own backyard right?
Munford was never a project. He completely mauled people.
Munford was never a project. He had to sit out a year part of his high school career because he transferred. He probably would have been a top 100 player nationally if not for that.
Vimahi is an interesting one to target. Seems to be a guard all the way, but I'm wondering if OSU thinks he can play tackle as well. At one point, he was also planning on going on a mission, though I'm not sure where that is at anymore.
Looks like Hartline is in Washington state. My guess going to see Gee Scott
Day visiting St. X/ Paris Johnson per the tweeter
The offseason is the longest season.
Gotta keep Paris working as the '20 class leader.
Yep...I'd hope Day tells everyone of his coaches that whenever they are in the area to pop in (as much as possible under the rules at least).
Birm says to expect Enokk the weekend of the 26th
Deondrick Glass just committed to the fake OSU... if any of you still had hopes that he would follow Yurcich to Columbus.
One this class, two next class. Or one if by sea, oh nevermind.
Nice try Paul Revere. The Old North Church still remembers.
I'd take him
Well guess I have to tolerate another year of Stud the magic man on the recruiting trail. Let's see if he actually makes an effort to get off the couch this year.
If not I feel bad for Coach Wilson who has to help him coach his unit another year (which is why they're being developed wink wink) and the rest of the staff who has to do his job for him on the trail.
Anyway good news on Enokk but still gonna be tough to pull a Hawaii kid with an official in late January. Hoping Coach Day can pull that one bc we need guys for depth ASAP. Will barely have enough to field a spring game next year btw.
Gotta move on at this point. I love following the recruiting updates but the negativity is killing me.
Pick up your feet, turn your corners square! And DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE!!!
Gonna keep giving it to him until he actually does something on the trail that proves me otherwise
I'm 75% sure Stud stole Spooner's girl at some point in the past
Doubtful. If she doesn't live inside the WHAC then there's a good chance Stud has never heard of her.
We have less visibility into who does what on the trail than we do field production. It’s one thing to say Bill Davis stinks because his product stinks. It’s another to try to parse out who is responsible for what on the trail.
also... if Day thought he could have a better line coach then we would have a better line coach. Either he is good w Stud, or he realized his ideal line coach wasn’t out there and available.
I find it hard to get too worked up about Stud. I get Spooner's point that he's a below-average recruiter and that's probably correct. However, his unit has vastly improved over the past three years IMO. The OL in 2016 was a mess at times and I thought Prince was going to have to be demoted and may not ever regain his job he was so bad. I had very few issues with the line this past season and thought they gave Haskins the time to do what he did. Penalties remain the biggest issue for the OL, especially false starts, but I just don't have the feeling with Stud that I had with Bill Davis and Taver Johnson where replacing them was a priority.
The O-lines pass blocking this year was probably the most underappreciated quality of the team.
Haskins largely had a clean pockets all year. The run game really turned a corner after that midseason lull once coaches began calling more downhill plays and Haskins showed to other teams he was willing to tuck it down with intention.
The penalties and mental mistakes were frustrating no doubt, but that's at least as much on the players as the coach (can't not false start for them). Felt the OL really gelled towards the end of the season, and finally felt confident the team could pick up tough yards in the red zone and on 3rd/4th and short, where an OL makes its hay.
Poor recruiting reports are another thing, but it looks like a few of the croots have good relationships with Stud. All for Stud getting another year- going to be exciting to see what he does with the OL! I'd say OL, along with QB, are the 2 positions that are the biggest question marks going into the offseason...but also 2 of the positions with the biggest potential upside! And QB and OL are absolutely the two position groups that need to be successful for the team to be successful. Looking forward to seeing what combo of Munford, Alabi, NPF, Bowen, Meyers, Wavy Dub, Jones, (true frosh Miller?!?! haha) gets the first crack. Certainly an embarrassment of riches.
Spooner, with all due respect, he may be getting a different directive from the staff. Furthermore, if he was allowed to be such a poor recruiter on Meyer's staff when more was needed, that's on Meyer as much as Stud.
Evanston this is not me guessing. I am repeating what our own insiders are reporting to their members. They speak to the recruits, their families, other staff members and people associated with the program so they're not guessing either.
It was also reported that Taver was not returning phone calls from the Battle family when he was put in charge of that recruitment. Urban hired him back too so Urban was not infallible or invincible to crappy hires.
Thanks for the insight, Spooner. I do wonder if Day will adjust Stud's recruiting responsibilities moving forward.
I don't think we can discount the impact that the off-the-field drama had on Meyer's coaching this year. Not throwing shade at a 13-1 season, but perhaps the details like keeping tabs on Stud and Taver slipped a bit.
Even if we would happen to land Enokk I'm not sure how much he's gonna help with the depth anyways due to his missions that he's going on. He was saying in interviews this past summer that it would probably be go to school for 1 year then on to his mission for 2 years and return to school after that. So if that is still accurate we would have him for '19 as a true freshman (which he will almost certainly redshirt-still has a lot of weight to gain), gone for '20 and '21 and then back after a 2 year layoff in '22 and after. Signing him looks great on paper but it will be a long ass time until he can truly help out.
So you are saying we would have a full grown Hawaiian man with four years of eligibility? OK.
I did see one of the insiders say that he was going to be out in Washington visiting Hatchett soon, which is a change from how he was recruiting. For how much Day has been stressing the importance of recruiting, I don't think Stud will be here long if he doesn't pick it up.
Also interesting that it seems, at least so far, that most of the contacts have been player positions by position coaches rather than a coach recruiting an area. Will be interested to see how that changes over time as these new coaches get settled in, or whether Day has a different strategy than Meyer. Given that Pantoni is still running a lot of it, the former would surprise me.
I like Urban's approach to recruiting, with area recruiters as the primary recruiter and position coaches as the secondary recruiter. 1. Its less time flying around the country than a scenario where coaches only recruit their position, 2. Less chNce for overlap, like 3 position coaches calling on same HS, 3. Less risk of an entire position group following g a departed coach, and 4. Gives kids another relationship on the staff outside their direct reporting relationship.
You need to get out more and understand how recruiting really works within the staff. 24/7 starhanderouters aren't gospel.
Any idea as to who the Bama commit is that might be visiting? Is it a 2019 or 2020 recruit?
It's their 2020 QB commit.
Prob going to need to take 2 QB's next cycle.
Wasn’t there speculation Miller wasn’t happy with Fields transferring in? If there was any truth to that I’m sure he definitely wouldn’t be happy with another QB in his own class
I’m not sure why that would be the case, it’s not like he was going to start as a true freshman. Fields is only going to be here for two years, anyways. Miller is going to be competing with Baldwin in 2021 and OSU is going to need 4 quarterbacks by then, so he should be worried those other guys.
This is definitely where I parked my car.
That's fake news in regards to Miller not being happy about Fields. He tweeted an emoji, and of course our 11w twitter interpreters took that and ran with it like they do with everything.
One of the insider on bucknuts confirmed Miller didn't like it.
Still not sure why. Miller was gonna have to contend with Martell in front of him for two seasons. Now it’s just changed to Fields for two seasons.
Fields will be gone by the time Miller is a sophomore so It seems pretty silly.
Yea miller is actually in a great situation. No ‘19 qb, and fields will be gone in 2 seasons. His only competition is Baldwin and it’s possible he could transfer by 2021
If you don’t want your team recruiting good QBs in the years before and after you, maybe don’t go to a top 10 school.
We are gonna need to take 2 QBs at some point. Baldwin would be a transfer risk if does not wait two years behind Fields.
I would imagine Miller didn't like it because it showed Day would bring in transfers. Miller probably would prefer not worrying about beating out people his age and the next 5 star transfer Day can get
I wonder how much of a chance we actually have with Enokk. This would be a steal this close to signing day. I’d be surprised if he didn’t go to USC, but you never know. Bring him in for his visit, and have his hosts be Bowen, Togiai and Garrett. All Samoan Buckeyes.
Looks like a real impressive interior lineman. We need depth at every position so this is great news. If we could I would take him and Dawand
I cannot emphasize enough how big of a win Enokk would be for Day and co. Would be nice to still be able to hit last-minute HRs even without Urban.
Do we want Enokk if he is going on a mission? Guess we have never really been in on somebody doing that do they normally pan out? Can't imagine being away from football for two years is good for your development
Definitely still take him. Just means two more years of physical development. Playing as a 23 year old against 18 and 19 years old has its advantageous. Just needs to make sure he maintains his bulk and strength which you can do on a mission.
Schools like Utah and BYU deal with this situation frequently, as do others like Stanford and UCLA. Here is a list of several currently NFL players that delayed college football for a mission. There are a lot of linemen like the Broncos first round tackle Garrett Bolles, Cowboys guard Xavier Su'a-Filo, and Redskins center Tony Bergstrom, along with Saints 'Slash' QB Tayom Hill.
It may not be an ideal situation for the universities but recruiting is mostly about the future. If you think a player will help your team in the future then sign him and sort out the details later.
A mission to kick ass? Yes.
My spreadsheet shows we are at 84 players with those currently signed and Tathan gone. Right now it looks to me like they would take 3 more OL (Nester, Jones, Vimahi) & probably a QB. So 88 total with 3 currently on the team to move on before the start of Fall camp.
Brandon Wimbush to UCF. Interesting landing spot for him.
In an article from BK, Jameson Williams plans to do some recruiting while at the Polynesian Bowl.
"There's a guy here Coach (Ryan) Day told me he wants," Williams said.
BK notes that Enokk Vimahi is also playing in the Polynesian Bowl and he is probably the target.
Nothing surprising here but it's nice to know Williams is pushing the agenda.
Hell yeah! Steele Chambers is gonna be there as well IIRC
If Ann Arbor is a whore, what's Harbaugh for going back to her?
I would assume it is Enokk, but could also be George Pickens. Haven't heard much from that trail but I do know he was interested in playing with Fields at Georgia. Stranger things have happened.
Is Elam playing in the game?
Per sources, Bishop Gorman grad, and Ohio St. backup QB Tate Martell will be transferring to the University of Miami
Official announcement coming tomorrow@BishopGormanHS @BishopGormanFB @CanesFootball
— Vince Sapienza (@VinceSapienza) January 16, 2019
Per sources, Bishop Gorman grad, and Ohio St. backup QB Tate Martell will be transferring to the University of Miami
Official announcement coming tomorrow@BishopGormanHS @BishopGormanFB @CanesFootball
— Vince Sapienza (@VinceSapienza) January 16, 2019
Later Tater Tot
Amd there was much rejoicing from their 6 or 7 fans that show up to games
Lesson in life though.....don't talk trash unless you plan on backing it up
Great info in this thread...but maybe for XXXVIII we retitle it ""2019 CLASS COULD BE pretty damn good all things considered..." It most certainly will not be as good as the 2018 class.
I think the only surprising thing about the whole martell situation was that his name is tathan, the rest was expected once he entered the portal
Can we at least put a stop to the Tate talk here in the recruiting thread? Coaches was one thing, this is another. He was fully expected to transfer when Fields came in, you bought into his Twitter talk, he burned you, get over it. Time to move on. There are plenty of other Tate threads to talk about this in, including the frontpage one.
Do the @Buckeyes land 5-star DE Bryan Bresee? Does #OhioState commit Doug Nester shut down his recruitment? Who does #OSU finish with in 2019 recruiting? And more... https://t.co/zECklElgjL— Bill Kurelic (@Bill_Kurelic) January 16, 2019
spoon, where you at.
I don’t have enough helmet stickers to vote yet can anyone help me out so I can offset whoever DV’d you
I’ll take a stab at it:
breese really likes osu, but he also really likes psu and uga. He really likes lj. He has great relationships at psu. He could totally end up at osu, but could also choose psu or uga, unless he picks somewhere else.
Nester: he is visiting this weekend. The buckeyes would like him to shut down his recruitment this weekend. He might or he might not. Psu and vt are real threats. He is the only commit that didn’t sign with osu yet. If he shuts down his recruitment this weekend, he will most likely sign with osu. If he doesn’t shut down his recruitment after this visit, he could still end up at osu but could also choose psu or vt.
That is freaking hilarious. +1
Actually said he has breese 55% to OSU and still feel good about him coming
right around 50%...sounds about right
You could be an 'insider'!
LOL! I can imagine that is probably 99% accurate to what the article says.
Here...take my UV, take them all! You are the new "Dean of Recruiting"
With LJ being a legend and now Mattison on board, if you’re a 4/5 star D-lineman, choosing against OSU has got to be hard to do.
I didn't see this anywhere but Bama just lost their best receiver not named "Bag Man".
Tosh Lupoi appears to be joining the Cleveland Browns staff.
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That should say recruiter but for some reason I can't edit.
Is Doug Nester, if he (very hopefully) signs with the Buckeyes, projected to be an OT or an OG at Ohio State? Seems most of the discussion has been that he will be an OG. Didn't he play OT in high school? Is his height a potential limitation to his playing OG, or is the "too tall to play OG" mostly a false meme? Just curious.
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He is slated to play Guard at OSU. He played Guard at the All American Game as well.
NHBuckeye, thanks for the info.
Any general reason why, he specifically (or any high school OL-man, for that matter) would move from OT in high school to OG in college? Not tall enough to play OT in college? Not fast enough to play OT in college? Potential limitations as an edge pass protector? Something else? Just curious.
It was either his arms were short or he didn't have good feet. Cant remember which.
Based on his All-American game footage, I think it's a foot speed issue for him. He's certainly built like a tackle.
I read that he received reps at OT and OG at the All-American Bowl. According to the article, Nester struggled greatly at OT. When he was paired with Harry Miller (OC) he was very solid at OG.
Let's hope that pairing continues...
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I wonder if nester could play center? I know we have Miller, so I am not worried, just thinking in terms of depth?
We're loaded at center--Myers, Jones, and Miller are all top 75 guys. I don't necessarily see Nester at C--he'll struggle in the same way that Mike Jordan did (which is hard to classify as struggle, but Jordan is clearly a better guard prospect than center) given his frame and height.
Also have Wypler already committed for 2020. If Meyers stays for 3 years wouldn't be surprised if Harry Miller just plays guard while he is here.
Yeah, I’m not sure what their listed heights are but Nester looked 2-3 inches taller than Miller when they were standing together for a picture.
"You can never pay back, but you can always pay forward."
Really need him to play tackle if possible.
Per Wiltfong, several Ohio State coaches visited Nester tonight.
Would be nice to wrap this one up.
Hopefully he stays with Ohio State. Definitely could use the depth along the interior of the offensive line.
I sure as hell hope Stud made that trip.
Is this the weekend he is supposed to visit too? Would be interesting if it got pushed back.......he'd probably have to make some tough decisions.
My guess is this is preemptive for weather possibly causing him not to be able to visit. I admire the hustle.
OSU wouldn't be in this ridiculous situation if Stud would have gotten up off his ass and recruited the talent within 90 minutes of freaking Columbus. At least ONE of Broeker, Duplain, or Samac should be in the class. Not to mention OSU should have at least a puncher's chance of landing Darnell Wright at this stage of the game.
Regarding Duplain, direct quote below from BG who was the first to CB him to tOSU but well you know....
"I did get a closeup look at the Duplain recruitment as friends of the family, and Alford did an amazing job there. He put the ball on the tee and just needed Stud to hit a wedge 100 yards onto the green."
I'm all for knocking Stud where he deserves it, but Darnell Wright not being interested in OSU has everything to do with Doug Nester being committed. Those two have a well documented history of not liking each other.
Birm seems to think Ohio State botched it more than Nester influenced Wright’s decision.
“Ohio State never was able to forge the relationship it needed to with Darnell Wright, the country’s top-ranked offensive tackle, despite very early interest from him. Right now it sits with only two signees on the offensive line even though the need to replenish the position is wildly obvious.”
tOSU "botched" it with Wright? How, exactly, could they have changed their strategy to instantly appeal to a kid that was getting pushed to the SEC by his HS coaches and, for whatever reason, didn't seem to click w/ the program culture at tOSU. If you are going to accuse someone of "botching" something, you should be able to clearly explain how the optimum outcome was clearly achievable.
Per BK.....Stud, Wilson, and Yurcich all visited with Nester yesterday. Nester is still expected in Columbus today for his second OV.
Notable composite ranking movements:
George Pickens up 8 spots to #28, now a 5*
Kaiir Elam up 12 spots to #49
Jameson Williams up 47 spots to #93
Enokk Vimahi up 8 spots to #124
Zach Harrison down 2 spots to #6
I forget exactly what the Buckeyes average ranking was before but I think it was something like 92.12 or 92.16. It's now 92.26. PSU was very close to OSU in average but they've now dropped down to 91.69. OSU remains 3rd in average ranking behind Bama and UGA with Auburn close behind in 4th. Jordan Battle jumping up from 77 to 41 is also notable unfortunately. Two big drops to note were Sopsher dropping from 9 all the way to 32 and our old buddy Devontae Dobbs falling from 28 to 48 and losing his 5th star. Michigan and Penn State both had quite a few players drop while the only one noted for OSU was Harrison falling two spots from 4 to 6.
I was gonna note Battle but that one still stings given what he would have brought to this class. The other one that stings is Wandale Robinson even though Hartline has crushed it at WR. He's nearly in the top 100 now when he was ~325-350 in early fall when it looked like he was going to commit. I think he's going to shine big time at Nebraska, good for the young man.
Not related to 247, per se, but Rivals' writeup of players they were still curious about after early signing day and the last ratings cycle featured Harrison prominently as a guy they still didn't have a handle on outside of ridiculous athleticism and upside. I have to agree.
It was shown last year that uncommitted recruits get a bump near the end of the cycle to drive clicks and views.
Haven't seen another thread on this, but didn't want to create a duplicate either. Plus I think this thread is a good place to ask and discuss my question anyway. With the early departures for the draft, the guys we have in the transfer portal/ transferred already( Jones, Martel, etc) what are our #'s looking like right now for scholarship players? And has it opened up room to maybe look for more than a couple more OL guys for 2019?
For # of schollies we need to be at 85 by the start of fall camp.
For remaining OL they are all massive reaches who have long ways to go to even be contributors outside of Darnell Wright who is not coming here or Vimahi who's a longshot but visiting. We're likely to take Dawand Jones bc he has things like agility for his size you can't teach. But even he's a bball players who's played at most 2 years of organized football. Other than Harry Miller there no OL that will contribute this year IMO.
There’s a scholarship grid on the site banner. Navigate to ‘Football’ and then over to the choices at the right. It’s pretty cool and updated very fast. Already has Snead out.
We are at 84 now. If Keandre Jones goes we drop to 83. There are always a few transfers between end of season and fall camp so there would be plenty room for 3 more OL and maybe a transfer QB.
Thanks Nortbrook, and to Spooner, NH and 992 as well. I figured there had to be some scholly space opening up. I figured we would try to bring in at least Nester and one other OL, was hoping it may open up space for a CB like the kid from Alaquipa in Pittsburgh or another really good prospect at corner? Didn't really explain that clearly before, LOL. that is a good point about another QB to.
I think the Alaquipa kid is Devonshire who we do not seem interested in now. At one point 247 had him as coming for an official visit but not now. All the recent predictions (CBs) for him have been for Pitt. It's always possible they go after another CB but I haven't seen anything on that.
Yea that's him, couldn't remember his name. I just think its strange we don't have any CB's in the class. I know we have a lot of talent coming back next year and not really worried about depth invthe DB area really just seems strange not to have one in the class. Arnette, Okudah and Wade should make a great starting rotation and with the other guys like Riep still onvthe team we have the depth not to take one I guess?
We've got some high 4-star and 5-star guys behind them too. Banks (who returned the blocked punt for a TD and stood out in the spring game), Williamson (who I think would've got more PT if not for injuries this year), Johnson (5*), and really those guys would be next up in the rotation.
Riep moved to safety, but even there, we're solid with Fuller and White... 5* Josh Proctor is waiting in the wings and there's a good shot that Coach Hafley's tutelage will show us some improvement in the overall secondary as well.
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Put your cursor on recruiting without punching on it until you see FB scholarship grid to the right. It breaks down each class as well as the total. They are good about keeping it up to date. I like the fact that each position is listed so you can see who might be moving on as well or where there is a excess of players.
So if we don’t bring in any CB’s this year and if Wade and Okudah leave after this year, by my count according to the spring roster, we will only have 4 scholarship CB’s next year not counting any they bring in for 2020 class. I think we need 1 for this class unless we are moving someone from safety over.
I dont want to see Wade and Okudah come off the field this year but it almost seems imperative to give Banks and Tyreke Johnson meaningful reps this year so they're ready for 2020. I definitely think Wade and Okudah leave after this year, both will be drafted high enough to warrant it.
Don't be surprised if riep is moved back to cornerback. I agree with you though, they need to take a cornerback in this class.
I’d imagine with the jam in the secondary and the schemes drawn up to give us fits that we might see a lot less linebackers get significant snaps.
We needed 2 cb`s in this class and every class that would be minimum. Typically 5 guys play all the time against spread teams. Thats the same as olineman. Wade and Okudah can leave next year and Okudah for sure could be gone. With our numbers on the oline and db`s you simply can`t miss on kids.....which is playing with fire as we saw this year at safety. Thank goodness they had to put White out there.....kid is very solid. Many times a really good cb can move to safety and be really really good. Not taking a cb this year is more of a head scratcher than keeping Stud as a coach....imho. Must be some serious studs after Okudah....which I havent seen but of course I dont see practices. The only option to this would be they see Shaw as a cb. Kids look better at wr than safety in his film. Loosing Battle really hurt and our staff had no contingency plan. Go Bucks.
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Absolutely right, I still can’t wrap my head around that the coaches acted like they had no clue Battle wasn’t coming here and have some kind of contingency plan for him. I think we are playing with fire with the 2020 class as far as OL and CB goes. If we miss on any of them or if there isn’t at least 2 of each position ready to contribute right away we could be in trouble.
Pump the brakes a bit. The depth isn't as bad as you think it is, and the 2020 class is more deep with corners and OL that are highly interested in OSU. OSU is in for a bunch of high 4 and 5* corners in the 2020 class.
Careful what you say. I’ve said the same thing in about 5 different threads and got downvoted into oblivion. We will most likely get 4-5 4*-5* CBS in the 2020 class. I’d rather have 5* true freshmen in 2020 than 3* redshirt freshmen
This is true-if a CB is really good, he'll be really good as a freshman-Denzel Ward-or get a swift dose of reality on the college level-Kendall Sheffield.
This is certainly not the case for some, if not most, corners. Ward played in 5 games as a true freshman, mostly special teams, and was admittedly very good as a sophomore. Our 2 first round corners the year before were both borderline bad in their first playtime... Conley was abused in his first season filling in for an injured Eli Apple and Lattimore regularly had issues in coverage in his RS Freshman season so he barely saw the field.
I agree the CB situation has me puzzled as well. We were talking about that just up above in the thread, with the early exits, tranfers, in such we are at 84 scholarship players maybe 83 soon if Jones does decide to leave. If we get to 83 Nester and one more OL prospect put us at 85. There will certainly be a lil more roster attrition between now and the fall, so I was also thinking at least one CB should be recruited. Or an athletic DB who could play corner or safety? I brought up Devonshire who we had been in on, but Northbrook pointed out that we have backed off him and all signs point towards him staying home and going to Pitt. Maybe we could get back in on him? Or maybe there is another available quality CB out there we could really get after? Not sure, but the depth doesn't look terrible, Arnette, Okudah and Wade will certainly be the starting rotation. And with Banks and Johnson behind them and a guy like Riep who is capable of playing Safety and corner especially at the nickle spot I think our depth is more than adequate for the next couple of years. Obviously Arnette is gone after next season, most likely Okudah will be to as I expect he will truly shine next season as a full time starter with plenty of experience. Wade on the other hand I'm not so sure will leave, if he ends up supplanting Arnette as the starting CB opposite of Okudah...then yea he gone too! If not, I see him coming back the following year where he would be the Top Dog in the CB room and possibly a team captain by that point? I don't think its crucial we need one in the 2019 class, in other words we shouldn't settle for a not elite level guy or a guy with tons of ability and upside, however it is strange we don't have one in the class. If we don't take one this class, then yes we absolutely need to get 2 absolutely top guys in2020.
Staff do need to get an A+ group of OL and CBs for next class. Need 3 OTs and maybe 3 interior guys. Maybe only 2 interior if we get Vimahi in this class. Need 3 great CB prospects too.
The recruiting problems on the OL and CBs won’t be a problem this year - it is two years down the road that things will get really dicey if the younger players we brought in last year are not able and ready to be starters. The only alternative is to bring in a group like Okudah and Wade next year - not just be in the mix, but actually land a couple of the top 5-10ish corners that are READY immediately by the start of the 2020 season. Otherwise, the DB and OL will be an easily exploitable weakness that could/will derail whatever potential the team has. That would be a real shame in our second and final season with Fields.
This is what I’m saying we have no choice but to land two guys at OT and CB who are ready to contribute as soon as they step foot on campus, is we don’t do that we could be looking at some problems imo.
Anybody heard if Jones the OT made it in for his OF?
I read in the 2020 forum that Nester was the only visit still. Can’t confirm or deny that..just what i read
Justin Rodgers is on campus.. which is low key epic and shocking at the same time.
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Message to all Ohio recruits: stay in Ohio #gobucks https://t.co/5C4imYDjek
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He’s not wrong
Harry is right too. LOL
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Haha, that would sure piss off Kirby Smart
Wow! For a guy (Harrison) that is typically quiet this is an awesome post. Glad to see he’s “all-in” now and helping push recruiting. Great sign
Harrison wasn't necessarily always quiet (certainly, he has some 'quiet' personality traits and was adverse to the hype of his recruitment), rather, his account was private so we never had the ability to see these before. Those Ohio kids probably already followed him.
But, hey...it's now fun for us too!
It's been reported elsewhere, but Harrison has looked happy as hell since Early Signing Day and the end of the recruiting process.
I'm sure there's an huge amount of pressure on making a college decision when it comes to highly rated players. Making the wrong choice could potentially cost you millions of dollars if you're good enough to make it to the NFL. Couple that with the social media age and grown ass men hitting you up on Twitter to commit to their school or to trash you for not choosing it. I'm sure he's happy that burden is over. I'm glad he chose the Buckeyes
The Draft will find you no matter where you play, I think you overstate this "mistake" concern. Being HAPPY and ENJOYING your time at the University of your choice is really more important. If you have the talent you get drafted from Indiana or Ohio State, Florida or UCF.
Think about it. He got EXACTLY what he wanted. He was conflicted between Ohio State and TTUN. However, the MAJOR (maybe only) reason TTUN almost pulled it off is now at Ohio State - Coach Washington.
Who are these four? Thanks.
Harrison, Stover, potter, and, nester I believe.
Jacoby, Harrison, Stover, and Potter
I stand corrected thanks. I forgot nester is from wv.
According to Bucknuts Dawand Jones did make it in for his official visit.
That’s good news. I suspect he might commit to the Buckeyes either before he leaves or shortly after he returns home (if he wants to talk over with the family).
Would love to have Jones and Nester locked up for osu asap
I second that proposal! YES PLEASE! +1 for you sir!
Losing Battle to Bama severely wounded this '19 class -- bad, no two ways about it - is their any news on Elam's recruitment? He could be the CB elite recruit to heal that big wound in this class...
Hope the OSU staff can pull some late magic on this one!! Elam would have a quick path to playing time @ OSU -- hope he realizes that....
No is the answer to that question.
Some crystal balls have been coming in for Elam the past couple days and they are UGA heavy.
"The rich continue to get richer" -- I do not see any teams other than Bama,Clemson, and Georgia playing in the NC game for the next 3-4 years....
OSU has ZERO CB's in the '19 class and Bama has 3-4, yet Battle goes there -- OSU has ZERO CB's in the '19 class and UGA has 2-3, yet Elam goes there -- that's VERY concerning...
OSU's DB classes have been absolutely loaded the past few years. Our classes have basically been right on par with Bama and UGA and higher ranked than Clemson over the past few cycles. Pretty sure OSU will be just fine and has just as much talent as anybody to make the playoff and title game. Having 0 CBs in one cycle when we expected to have 1 will not sink the program.
I can always count on you, Stu, to comment something dumb. The sky is falling in Columbus.
Bama’s secondary is usually their weakest unit other than when they had fat linebackers and linemen. Just because they have highschool stars doesn’t mean they have collegiate stars.
UGA hired UF's DB coach, the reason behind all the crystal balls for Elam to UGA.
Not sure any one recruit badly wounds a class. What hurt the class was only having Battle for secondary. If the defensive coaches did more with getting DBs than it would not have stung so much. That said, if space is as limited as they say, it is not like they would have taken many anyway.
Nor is this class considered as talented, so taking a bunch of guys this year may not have meant much if four stars from this class are on par with many three stars in other years. It is putting a ton of pressure on the 2020 group in the secondary though. That said, Battle alone was not going to be enough.
Shaw and Hickman are also slated to play in the secondary but very likely both at safety. So the class isn't devoid of DBs but it is lacking a natural CB. It seemed likely there would only be 1 CB in this class all along so if OSU ends with none, it just means they will take an extra one next year. It's not ideal but this has happened at DT and other positions in the past and the staff almost always makes up for it the next cycle.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Shaw starts out at corner. Kid has great feet and can run really well.
I think Riep almost certainly moves back to CB with the emergence of White and with Proctor by all accounts being ahead of him. Also see big things coming from Banks, Johnson, and Williamson when their time comes.
Where are the recruits at???
Alabama and Georgia lol
Anyone care to summarize what BK is saying about nester and jones?
They made their official visits this weekend. Visits went well. Both have a chance to end up in this class.
Lol I didn't read it yet but can almost guarantee that what's said. The only time to pay attention to a Kurelic article is when he actually makes a CB pick.
Otherwise the guy will literally write the same article for a week about a recruit and just word it differently each day. Can't tell you how many times I've seen that happen. If you join there do it for Gleitman and BG updates bc they will actually have good stuff outside of CB picks.
I read recently that Nester said as long as OSU kep Stud on that he would be signing here. I really hope he cancels his visit to Penn State. I guess we’ll know by the end of the week.
Jones top 5. Decision expected on NSD
Oh Hoosiers, I'm so sorry.
I am sorry but a top five with 19 days to make a decision and you haven't visited all these schools...Makes me wonder if he is worth it despite we are desperate for Oline...I know he plays basketball so he is athletic..we are worried about getting this guy but disappointed we got a 2020 tackle with same 3 star rating out of Cinci..Love off season
Every time I see your username I think it says Tampon.
That aside, yes both are 3 stars but stars don't always matter. Both have very impressive offer sheets. I'll trust the coaches at those programs over 247 and Rivals all day.
BR Buckeye What I was trying to say is we seem enamored with 2019 Jones as a 3 star but the jones that committed in 2020 people are upset as to why we took a 3 star so early...not used to getting whited out
Good point--I trust the staff to make these calls. Some of the folks are complaining, but I think they are in the minority.
I think folks may have misunderstood you. +1 to offset.
His final 5 includes four of the top 15 programs in the country plus his hometown school in Indiana. He's 6'8 360, we need OTs, and he also has offers from Auburn, FSU, Michigan, Oregon, and Texas. He may be a 3* but he has a national offer list. There are plenty of 4* players who can't produce an offer list like that.
By all reports, it's us or USC, so the other names seem to be "hats on the table". He's a project, but depth is obviously needed.
Your comment doesn't even flow logically.
Having a top 5 with 19 days left. What does that have to do whether he is worth it? He wants to have a ceremony and have his spotlight time, so he wants to put 5 hats on the table.
One person I think was disappointed about the 2020 kid, and although he got downvoted into oblivion he made valid points. He didn't make them in the most productive manner imo, but he made them his way.
Adding to this - there are plenty of 5* and 4* guys who everyone knows are down to 2 or 3 schools and put 5 hats on the table because that's usually the standard. Has nothing to do with anything really.
I think jones is a silent commit to osu
This is why people are so excited about the prospect of his committing.
24/7 has new rankings, and now Zach Harrison is 12th in composite, also seems like Garrett Wilson took a bit of a hit, he went down 13 in 24/7's new rankings. New Rankings have Alabama with 3 out of the top 7 overall.
I can somewhat understand the Harrison drop, but Garrett Wilson was fantastic at the All-Star game.
It appears OSU overall dropped from 92.26 to 92.23 so maybe some other guys got slight bumps because I would have assumed our ranking per recruit would have dropped a bit more than that with our two top recruits each dropping down a few spots.
Those guys are way too focused on the The Opening and the All-star games. They move their rankings all over the place based on a few good days of semi-competitive football.
Also looks like they've only re-ranked the top 32 (their 5 stars) so far.
Lol, truth. I'll take a 3 star-Jakob James-that already has offers from scUM,LSU,PSU, and Tennessee as opposed to a bunch of camp wonders. Offers tell the story.
To be fair, "camp wonders" almost always have their fair share of good offers themselves.
Zach dropped to the low-end of the 5* range on Rivals last week, dropping his composite position from 3 to 6. Dropped another 19 spots in top 247, creating the additional slide in composite 247. That being said, his rating did not change. He's still at 98--but a few have now broken past the 98 barrier. Heck, Nolan Smith went from 1 to 4 in composite 247 despite his 247 rating remaining the highest, from 98 to 100.
Harrison is a project. A freakishly athletic project w/ extraordinary speed for his size, but a project none the less. IMO, he doesn't flash as a freshman the way the Bosa bros. or Chase Young did.
Sure, but still a bit crazy to have such drastic changes based on a single performance or so. On athletic ability alone he was probably right were he was. Wilson makes even less sense given how good he looked in those games .
It is what it is but OSU is getting some good players in those two for sure.
There are over a 1,000 guys looking to get evaluated each year. Moving 10 spots is the opposite of drastic, especially when his actual rating did not change and when you can't move up in the rankings at that point. This is all in your head. He isn't thought of as 4x worse than he was before. He's the same--a 5* project. A few guys that were ignored before and a few guys rated similarly to Zach are now just thought of as surer bets. He went from #1 SDE to #2 SDE. The difference in what you do against wide swings in talent during the season and what you do against peers in camps and all star games is: you make yourself available for direct comparison to your peers. Not a big deal that they now think the other guy is a little better, especially when they give that one guy their highest rating in the class.
Agree with this. Don’t think he will play much right away.
OZONE Posted a commitment article yesterday at about 1pm and then took it down. I would post the screenshot but I am too lazy, honestly.
For Jakob James?
It was for Jones. Saw it also. This is why I think he has already committed to osu but wants to have the hat dance announcement.
Yes Jones, sorry.
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Interesting that Birm says there is a lot of uneasiness around Nester and OSU still...
I was wondering if the timing of Jacobs' offer had anything to do with news they may have gotten from Jones and/or Nester over the past weekend. Like they got the sense that one or both weren't coming, so they decided to get in early on Jacobs to make sure they can get enough bodies in 2020.
Naw, they were really high on him, is unrelated to the '19 class.
Texas A&M grad transfer QB Nick Starkell is looking at Ohio State. He’ll have 2 years of eligilbity and will enroll at his next in July.
He's ass my dude.
Tathan has no class, my dude
Both of these things can be true, my dude.
This is who Martell is. Anytime there is competition he uses social media to try to scare the other guy away. When that doesn't work, Martell just runs away.
You’re supposed to rhyme things, not give sass, my dude
From "the islands" to the 'bus is becoming a possibility.
#Buckeyes hosting big time target at biggest position of need https://t.co/emh91Ib8AX
— Alex Gleitman (@alexgleitman) January 23, 2019
Anyone know how likely it is that we actually get Vimahi? Having his last OV is alway a good thing.
Having his last OV is alway a good thing.
Alternatively: trying to get that last vacation in before they aren't free anymore.
I'll take the last in-home visit over the last official visit any day.
Ah yes, because I'm sure countless natives of Hawaii would jump all over a free vacation to Colubmus, Ohio in mid-January.
And what native Hawaiian wouldn’t want to take an all expenses paid trip to beautiful Columbus, Ohio in January???
A kid did to South Bend a decade ago.
Kid from Hawaii vacationing in Columbus in January?
Bro, he lives in Hawaii...vacation means a whole different thing to him than it does to you. And...it still needs to be a reasonable college/football choice. We're in the range, we're just not at the top of the list.
Adding clowns to the list of people who don't know how DVing works.
Haha why don’t clowns know how DV’s work? Maybe they don’t learn that in Clown School
What about jugglers? Or trapeze performers? I hope they know
Never thought I'd see a Hawaiian say y'all.