I don't think OSU fans are really going to care if Urban goes to USC in 2020 (I don't think there's even a 1% chance it happens). We'll especially not care if Ryan Day has a successful first season.
This. We’re not bitter FLA gator fans. Urban put 2/3 of Florida’s NC trophies in their case and yet they quabble about him like bitterly scorned lovers.
We are tradition rich tOSU, Urban added to the tradition, but the machine will roll on. He’ll always be beloved here no matter what.
Ryan Day is just going to add icing to cake by taking us to the next level.
Urban doesn't owe us anything. I hope he finds as much happiness as he provided to me in 2014, especially not just getting that SEC monkey off our back, but taking it behind the woodshed and beating the shit out of it.
It was a 7 point win.
It was an old fashioned gonna sock you in the mouth and what the hell you gonna do about it genuine ass whoopin. People fight back in ass whoopins sometimes. Bama fought back, and we paddled em mercilessly for it. And better believe that wood shed whoopin lit a bigger fire under the teams ass before they went and devoured some duck
Let us enjoy our Bama 7 point bludgeoning
It was a 7 point win.
It was in Alabama's back yard and it was 85 yards through the heart of the South (in under 2 MB)
So how about you just
"Defiance in Silence"
The total yardage at one point in the second half was 457-150 Buckeyes, to go along with a 36-7 run on the scoreboard. It was a pretty solid beating.
Zeke had 230 yards rushing agianst Bama...I believe that is a pretty good ass stomping. We rammed it down their throats and they couldn’t stop it.
The Rill Dill trill.
Nothing cleanses the soul like a no call pass interference.
Sure, it was a 7 point game.
But that doesn't tell the story.
OSU literally handed them a few TDs of of turnovers and questionable play calling.
It was #4 tOSU against #1 Alabama in Nola and the Buckeyes absolutely outplayed, out hustled and out ran Bama to win the first CFP!!
Alabama and its fans were so entitled walking into that game. I heard so much dumb shit during NYE on Bourbon St from them, they were really quiet the next night though.
Yep....If I had a dime for every, "Y'all don't believe Y'all are gonna beat us do you?" I got from Bama fans in bars, I'd be rich.
We have them four turnovers and spotted them a 21-6 lead. In hindsight, that might’ve been a blessing as it took all the pressure off. And when Evan threw the TD to Thomas at the end of the half to pull within one, we had all the momentum. Frankly, we should’ve sealed the deal on the last offensive series, but Urban tried to get Evan a TD on first down, but it was well guarded and stopped the clock. Had we done the smart thing and make Bama burn their timeouts, we would’ve sealed the deal rather than give them one last shot.
Just such a magical three game run.
It wasnt as close as the score would have you believe.
What the media and Florida fans could never understand was that to Urban, Florida was a great opportunity to coach at the highest level and win but Ohio State was the dream job. He would never publicly admit it but, I am sure his 2014 National Chamiponship with Ohio State means more to him than the ones at Florida because he did it with the school he loves.
Notice when he quit coaching the Gators he went to ESPN. When he quit coaching the Buckeyes he stayed at Ohio state
Don't put much stock into Urban saying Ohio State was his dream job. He also said Notre Dame and scuM were his dream jobs.
Proof he ever said TTUN was HIS dream job?
He also said Notre Dame and scuM were his dream jobs.
I remember him saying Notre Dame, but I'm not buying that he said the same about Michigan.
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I'm pretty sure he said that ND would also be a dream job, but TTUN would be a NIGHTMARE job!!
(he was sure right about TTUN, wasn't he?)
nightmares are still dreams
Yeah that blows my mind. He did great things for them and moved on.
"Woody is a God-fearing man. It's good to know that he's afraid of somebody."
They wouldn't care if he went anywhere outside the B1G.
Dan Patrick said on Monday, "A well placed source at Ohio State has told me he'll be surprised if Urban Meyer isn't at USC or Notre Dame within two years." That's an unknown right now, but if that were to happen, and unless Meyer were to have a yet to be invented medical procedure which eliminated the cyst within his brain and the 'unknown risks' that accompany coaching with that problem, then Meyer will have been less than forthright in his stated reasons for retirement and his future intentions... again. No surprise there... go do what you do, Urban. It's a common trait among college football coaches. These guys seem incapable of straightforward answers to simple questions.
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Well stated, Kmp. I think that Ohio State fans are the only people who think Urban's health issues are legit. Everyone else acknowledges it like
So, if the health concerns are legit, I'd say there's a better chance he succeeds Gene Smith than Clay Helton or Purple Face.
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Gee, maybe that has something to do with us actually seeing Urban collapse on the sidelines this year while clearly in pain. Why would he fake something like that on live television with his family likely watching from home? Clearly something was up with him. And newsflash, the USC job isn't any less stressful than OSU. You're just in a more crowded city surrounded by many, many more assholes out there.
Gee, maybe that has something to do with us actually seeing Urban collapse on the sidelines this year while clearly in pain. Why would he fake something like that on live television with his family likely watching from home?
NBA and Soccer players flop all the time, Urban is no different. - Brett McDickbreath, prolly.
Lol. No competitive advantage to be gained by a coach flopping. Not to mention it would look rather pointless lol.
His well placed source is probably some alum who doesn't know crap and is totally speculating. Urban is done coaching
Urban hasn't even had time to get his business cards printed and the media who constantly harassed him while he was coaching is still at it. They are desperately hoping he takes another job so they can once again treat him like a piñata.
Urban was basically set adrift after he left Florida. He picked up the job with ESPN, but that is a vagabond life with no real purpose other than yapping on TV as an analyst. His dream job with OSU opened up and after negotiating with his family, he accepted.
Gene and OSU have given him a position in the AD that provides him with the freedom to design programs to help student athletes, to mentor coaches and players, and to do what he was doing as a coach, without the stress and intensity of actual coaching at games, game planning, schemes, etc. He doesn't have to face the media every Saturday afternoon and every Monday, who are waiting for any sign of a misstatement. He can make a difference in people's lives, which appears to be important to he and Shelly.( Remember, that is what they planned to do with Zack and Courtney in Florida. They stated they would serve as mentors and support in the Smith's marriage. Well meaning, but didn't work out well) . Urban obviously loved that part of the job, listen to his comments toward his players , from Tebow on to JT and Parris Campbell.
I don't believe he is going to leave that behind to move to CA and take on coaching at a broken program , with a former player for an AD, and all that living and working with kids in LA entails.
I've said it before, but there's a large segment of the national media who will only be happy when they see Urban in the ER or the morgue.
Never understood how they view Saban as a deity but Urban they want to send home on a stretcher.
At 54 years old, highly doubt Urban is done coaching. Sabans 67. Urban has a good 10+ years in the tank. Urban has a huge ego, he'll want to coach again. If anything for the media attention. He's not going to want to stay in some BS drummed up job Ohio State's given him in the athletic department for long. His health problems will miraculously become manageable when the right school calls.
He's done coaching bank on it
I see you're still working on your troll game, FussyBuck
Urban has a huge ego, he'll want to coach again. If anything for the media attention
And that statement proves you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Urban loathes the media
Urban is done coaching
Are you 'speculating,' or do you know something no one else seems to know?
I’ll be surprised if Urban Meyer isn't at USC or Notre Dame within two years.
- Michael Vincent Drake, President, The Ohio State University
there is so much this there
"The future is bright at Ohio State." - Urban Meyer 1/1/15
Best take I've seen on this whole thing. Only Urban knows A-the impact of his cyst, and B-what he wants his reputational legacy to be.
If Urban wants to coach again (which I doubt) who are we to stop him. That being said if he poaches LJ from Day's staff he's dead to me lol.
We will care when he takes his/Days support staff.
Day has made probably more than half of the current coaching staff his own at this point. I definitely don't see guys like Hartline and Washington for example leaving to go work for Urban.
Wouldn't shock me. Wouldn't blame him.
If his health is better, good for him. It's not like he can take a medical leave while being coach here, recruiting would be impossible.
I would love to see him coach again. CFB is better, and 100 kids somewhere would get a hell of a leader.
I can't imagine he'd want to work with an incompetent AD like Lynn Swann.
Neither would I. Now if he does what Lloyd Carr did to Michigan on the way out and encourages OSU players to transfer or decommit so they can follow him where he's going that's another story.
Carr did that? I had not heard of that. When he was leaving his administrative role or leaving as coach?
Both in different ways. Carr convinced Ryan Mallett to transfer right before RichRod took over (despite RichRod being willing to work with and build his offense around Mallett's skillset). That of course left the cupboards completely bare for RichRod at QB the following season. Don't know if did the same with Justin Boren or if Boren just didn't like RichRod. But Carr also influenced scUM's coaching searches after he retired (in negative ways). IIRC he tried to keep them from hiring Les Miles because he had somewhat of a rivalry with him (Carr has always had somewhat of an ego, just watch him when he's dealing with the media). That of course is why they ended up with the failures that were Hoke and Rodriguez. In short, I hope Urban pulls none of that shit on OSU.
Thanks, D! I didn’t know that! I always thought Carr was a POS
Some scUM fans I know actually believe part of the reason their program has fallen from elite status since Carr retired is because of some of the things Carr did on his way out. The team looked completely different from 2007 to 2008 for a reason. Of course that still doesn't explain why their savior, Jim "I'm a jackhammer" Harbaugh hasn't gotten them back there yet.
If Urban does come back McFuckStick will resume his smut flinging. I got the feeling one reason Urban retired was to shield his family (and Shelley) from that POSs unchecked attacks.
If Urban does go to USC I wont care TBH. He gave us a national title and 7-0. Ryan Day will just have to kick his ass in the CFP if he does. OSU is moving on.
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It's a shame that muckraking reporters have virtually no accountability.
"Because the rules won't let you go for three." - Woody Hayes
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The problem with accountability for journalistic types is the fact that Urban-or whomever is allegedly being slandered or defamed-would have to agree to a deposition on the facts of the matter, which would give attorneys virtually free will to ask Urban-or whomever-whatever they want, under legal oath. If the individual(s) being slandered/defamed has skeletons he or she would rather hide-even if unrelated to the matter at hand-they keep their mouths shut or settle. This is what happened to President Clinton-he was being deposed in a lawsuit by Paula jones and the Monica thing came out.
I wouldn't care unless he came back and beat OSU or stole some players in transfers or recruiting. He's done enough to earn our gratitude, and he's definitely not "leaving the cupboard bare"!
A thing repeated will happen a third time.
I saw him saying a 12-1 OSU would get selected for ESPN’s Holiday Invitational Tournament and realized he was talking out of his ass, so I never made it to #6.
There is more of a chance of Urban going to Cincy and coaching after Luke moves on than there is of him picking up and moving to California to coach USC.
I'm pretty sure he is done as a head coach in CFB .
I however would not rule out high school football or possibly as a position coach (WR or QB coach) given how competitive he is. I think it would be a position out of the spotlight not only for him , but for his family.
We have a CB coaching position open.
He will want to coach but Shelley ain't having it.
That is the big difference between this situation and Florida. The family saw him feel better after a break, thinking things will chance and it didn't. They will likely be Jess supportive if he wants to go back to coaching, not saying he eventually won't.
Not to mention the pesky ND rumors keep popping up but doesn't Shelley hate South Bend? I seem to remember her saying a while ago she never wanted to live there again.
Another reason not to go to ND, Meyer hates losing.
I guess some people just don’t believe the medical issue. Constant daily headaches is a living nightmare. I can vouch for it.
Yeah, but so was “chest pain” like he had at Florida, until it wasn’t (it was an esophageal issue and was able to be treated). Who’s to say something won’t come along to be able to treat or control his headaches? Innovation in the medical field happens all the time.
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Headaches and gastric stuff are just a tad different. I’ve had bad gastric stuff before, enough to make me want to simultaneously vomit and cry but a headache that brings you to your knees? Nope. And with stress aggravating it? Why? Not to mention the retirement negative recruiting would be off the charts
Apparently you missed the part where I said if it could be treated. If it can be treated and he doesn’t have headaches, you don’t think that changes the calculus?
There is 'managed' and 'treated'. Treated usually means you can fix it. Managed means living with it, but figuring out how to best offset the pain and the occurrences. I think he's in a 'managed' situation, at least for now. And personally, I don't see that getting fixed.
I’m a physician, but thanks for the clarification...
You are basing this completely on how things stand right now, just like everyone was on Urban at the end of his Florida run. Crushing chest pain that sent him to the ER. When they figured out it wasn’t life threatening, and was actually caused by something different than cardiac chest pain and could be treated, he was raring to go.
All I’m saying is to completely preclude any chance of him ever coming back to coach again insinuates that things won’t change with his condition or available treatments in the future, and I don’t thank anyone can make that assertion with any certainty. Based on what we know now? Sure, he won’t come back. All I’m saying is that if his condition improves, or a new medication or treatment is discovered that can “treat” his problem, I think you’re crazy to think that he won’t be coaching again. Will that happen by 2020? Doubtful. But never? Too tough to say.
I’m a physician too.
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I play one on TV...everyone is better by the end of the hour.
Justice delayed is justice denied....#FTP
I'm one when I feel like it.
I also slept at a Holiday Inn Express :)
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I just like playing doctor with the hot chick next door
Crushing chest pain. It’s called a panic attack. I’m not a doc, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night. I’ve been to many ERs with the crushing chest pain. He has some form of panic disorder. That is my shithouse evaluation.
Except when the crushing chest pain is a heart attack, or angina. The whole “elephant sitting on my chest” thing? Pathognomonic for an MI. In hindsight it’s clear it was anxiety or stress induced esophageal spasm, but he’s also likely had the arachnoid cyst(s) his whole life as well. Except recently it wasn’t made worse by all the stress (or being a HC at an institution like OSU, the weight of allegations by media and others about the ZS situation, etc.).
All I'm thing to say is that this isn’t as different from the post-Florida Meyer as everyone here is making it out to be. Would he be able to manage his stress better in the future and limit the severity of the headaches? Maybe. That’s all I was saying. Everyone else is talking about how inconceivable it would be for him to coach again. I don’t think it’s that far fetched.
I agree that his condition could improve; however, he’s been treated for it over a period of years. Unlike the gastric issue that was thought to be heart related, the arachnoid cyst has been treated before.
I’m not a doctor nor have I recently stayed in any hotel but I do use my CPAP nightly. It doesn’t improve my cervicogenic headaches though.
The man was pounding sleeping pills and chasing them with beers. Now he has headaches that are dropping him to his knees on the sidelines. Not to mention he’s going to be carrying the weight of his Florida tenure and Zach smith if he tried to come back. For a man with a history of stress induced issues, there’s no managing that. It doesn’t take a physician to figure that out.
For those of us who aren't MDs, this article sums up Meyer's condition pretty well, and two neurosurgeons are interviewed for the article. Meyer's arachnoid cyst is a rare kind that not only causes symptoms, but required surgery to drain fluid out of it. He's incredibly fortunate in many ways, but he got the short end of the stick with this cyst. He said that he had the cyst drained in 2014, and that his medical team recommended against draining the cyst a second time when the cyst became a problem again. Barring development of a safer way to drain arachnoid cysts, or a more effective means of preventing fluid buildup in the cyst , he won't be able to coach again. That won't prevent ESPN and the rest of the sports media from making him a leading candidate for every major coaching job that comes up for the next twenty years. My two cents is that if he is able to coach again, due to advances in the treatment of this type of cyst, he will coach at Ohio St.
I'm not a physician, but I did stay at Holiday Inn Express last night
I'm not a doctor and I can only afford Motel 6.
They leave the lights on?
Well I am a trader so my opinion is the only team Meyer will ever coach is his grandsons pop warner team
Urbs loves his grand kids. I just can’t see him moving to California. I contend that IF he ever coaches again it will be at OSU.
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Same with watching his son play baseball. He missed out on the daughters playing college sports, doubt he misses it now.
I believe Shelly when she said that she doesn't want Urban to coach again and I think that carries a lot of weight. We will hear his name swirling around in rumors for quite a lot.
He will be the new Jon Gruden of coaching searches until he accepts 20 mil/year from Notre Dame in 2035
6. Urban Meyer takes over at USC
Perhaps no FBS coach is going to face more pressure this coming season than USC's Clay Helton, who went 5-7 in 2018 after winning 21 games the previous two seasons combined. Trojans athletic director Lynn Swann has shown patience, but it will run out after a mediocre season in 2019.
Meyer, who said he believes he'll never coach again, will be the top candidate to replace Helton. Meyer, 54, won more than 90 percent of his games at Ohio State, never lost to rival Michigan and won three Big Ten titles and the 2014 national championship.
Meyer isn't going to sit around and do nothing, and it's not like he hasn't changed his mind about retirement before.
Small college or UC are the only options IMO. Low stress, high impact on kids. Could see him at Baldwin Wallace or something.
Coach Fick is hoping UC means something other than “University of Cincinnati” in your post.
Bold prediction- Urban Meyer's next coaching job speculation will be a clicks gold mine for ESPN for years
Just like Chucky (John Gruden)
How’d that turn out?
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So, live. Live. Fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight then lay down and rest and let somebody else fight for you. "
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How’d that turn out?
He managed to set a whole new standard in just his first season.
That Slayball dude is a real Nostradamus.
Here's my prediction. He has half his brain removed along with the cyst. Even with his half brain, he dominates the pac-12.
As long as he builds his staff without tearing down ours, more power to him. My personal theory is that he’s sticking around to take a break for a year or two but also potentially come back if Day leaves and Drake is gone.
Mark must not have much else to write about.
The offseason is the longest season.
Ohio State AD in 2020. Move along eSECpn.
Fuck eSECpn and fuck Mythigan.
This - clearly didn't get the memo he's Assistant AD. He's not sitting around doing nothing guys...he's chilling at bball games with top talent and helping Day poach coaches.
Indeed, the press misses him already ~ oh the irony!
Again, w/his past "history" how can he promise a 5-star recruit he will be a coach anywhere for longer than one yr?
Perfect ending for Urban ie 62-39 and a Rose Bowl win. Leaves the Buckeyes in a much better condition than when he took over. Only one way he returns ~ if the NCAA declares JT has a couple more yrs of eligibility. :-P
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I agree with most of your points but crushing Arkansas in the sugar bowl was a pretty good ending for Tress.
High and tight boo boo
naw - he's going to ND
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My understanding was that his headaches can be triggered by loud noises which include him yelling. Until his health is under control I just don't see him on the sidelines other than a Barry Alvarez kind of thing in the future.
My money is on he never will again unless he is told by more than 1 doctor it won’t kill him. But I don’t think OSU would let him gat away if that were the case. Sorry to who happens to be coaching at that time.
He will replace Belichick
I won’t have any ill will towards Urban if he does go to USC but I wouldn’t ever believe another thing that comes out of his mouth. It also would prove that he doesn’t have what it takes mentally to maintain a program. A lot of his detractors think that Urban bails the second he faces adversity. If he was to coach again after only sitting out one year it would certainly bolster their case. Hopefully he sticks around and proves everyone wrong. If he was to leave he’d be taking our strength/conditioning coach and our recruiting coordinator. Can’t see too many OSU fans being thrilled if that was to happen.
Don't listen to Freddy P. Soft
Doubtful he ever coaches again, even if he's healthy. Shelley wants him done & even made it public that she wants him done & there is no person on this earth that means more to him than her & his children.
"Because I couldn't go for three"
I don't see him going to USC but I would love for him to take Gene Smith's spot on that goddamn playoff committee.
Yeah, I can see him taking over when Gene retired either this June or next.
lol ESPN will do anything for clicks.
Yep, they're just salty because they couldn't get him fired with McButtmunch , and now he's a less accessible target.
Enjoy the wins over *ichigan, ....I still remember the dark days of the 1990's....
Urban in Cali? He would have 84 5 stars. and a 4 star kicker.
It is something to stir a conversation but that is it. It will never happen. Meyer's medical condition is not something that goes away and gets worse in the football game environment. At least bothers him more. And his family seems to be happy with his choice. He may still have the fire and itch in him, but sometimes you have to hang them up early. Not fair but the way it is.
If he decides to coach again- he will do well.
The little woman may think otherwise on him coaching again.
ESECPN just wants clicks right now since their Bama team chit the pot on TV ratings...
Enjoying daily the back to back ttun beatdowns.
To start: Fuck e!spn and all the clickbait they push out.
1.) USC’s football woes go beyond the current coach. They are without a university president and Lynn Swan is a very poor AD. Several staff members believe their academic prestige is harmed when football is the main focus of boosters and thus don’t support it in earnest.
2.) If Urban were going to bolt for the PAC-12 I don’t think he’d have let Oregon/Nike build up such a strong presence with west coast kids, or waited until they were practically excluded from CFP consideration. Plus U$C plays Bama in 2020 and I doubt he walks into that tirefire with a 90% chance of being creamed.
3.) Get ready for this to be the ESPN CFB Yearly Hot Take for the next decade until Urban is 60+. He will either be rumored to U$C, ND, or even Alabama until he reaches his golden years.
1.) USC’s football woes go beyond the current coach. They are without a university president and Lynn Swan is a very poor AD. Several staff members believe their academic prestige is harmed when football is the main focus of boosters and thus don’t support it in earnest.
Maybe they should hire Michael Drake
Looks like Urban is now the new Gruden. There will be an Urban plane watch and everything every time a high profile coach is on the hot seat!
Looks like Urban is now the new Gruden
But with a better haircut
If Urban did decide to take the SC job good luck to him. I'm all in on Day and believe he's the right person to lead this program.
I don’t believe it
I told my Bama friend this and he got a twinkle in his eye
look out for Urban to take over at Bama when Saban leaves ;)
Sounds like someone here is really hooked on the ESPN Expert dust. Urban is 10 years older & smarter, he's been offered an attractive job, and bottom line is if he chooses to go out West God Bless him.
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He’s still employed by Ohio State, so he won’t be sitting around doing nothing all day.
Notre Dame? Maybe. USC? Ha no.
Wouldn't surprise me. Game is shifting towards flag football so you just need an NFL QB with 5 star receivers . That's literally what the soft pac12 and USC is known for. He could own that whole coast and get #1 recruiting classes. I doubt Shelly and the fam would mind living in CA either.
His kids are here... his grandkids are here... Nate will be at Cincy playing baseball.... that being said an empty house with a honey-do list could get old pretty fast when you know you are one of the GOATs of the game. So while he might listen to a USC offer (a long distance from family) I think the only place that could lure him back in a couple of years would in fact be Notre Dame.
Call it what you'd like
Success - it's what you do with what you've got. - Woody Hayes
Notre Dame is believable to me.
I've been looking around at colleges, USC is definitely off the table
If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. You do that seven days a week, you're going to have something special.
I would be totally fine with that. Urban doesn't owe us nothing. I actually think it would be cool to see him coaching again in a few years.
There is a cure out there right now for his health issue. It's called 4 years at $12 million.
Not a chance in hell that this happens.
I'm 99% sure he doesn't leave for USC. His daughters and grandkids are in Columbus. His son is in Cincinnati His son-in-law is still on the OSU football staff. His wife is still working at the university. He himself is an associate AD. Too many roots.
"We get paid to score touchdowns, not kick field goals"
-- Urban Meyer
Does he even have an agent again or yet? If he gets a new one then I think we can be pretty sure he’s looking again.
Why get sucked into this. They warned you his name would come up each time.
New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.
Please don’t do it, Urbs! I get jealous easy.
This speculation will continue until these yahoos figure out he is done coaching. He is older, has grandkids, wants to enjoy life, and he has a much less stressful job at the University he loves.
You people are too nice. I will be bummed out if he's coaching in 2 years. 5 years, different. He didn't say he was resigning, he said he was retiring. I expect him to keep his word, at least for a while. Doesn't mean I'll wish evil upon him, just that I'll be a little bit disappointed, and quite frankly, root for him to fail on the scoreboard wherever he lands. The only way I would lighten up is if he opened up about what the suspension did to his trust in the people higher up than him.
Everyone who’s saying they won’t care if he comes back is lying. I would be mad. Why would you leave us? We have it all and you started it for us. USC or anyone else would be a slap in the face. You are from Ohio. That has to mean something. Com on man.
Yeah I was probably one of the few people around here who was actually happy to see him go (because I think the program is better served having someone with the youth/creativity/energy that Ryan Day has at the helm and I thought Urban's hiring practices were holding the team back in a major way) but even then, I'd be a bit pissed if he went back to coaching in the next few years.
Not because I'd rather have him here, mind you, but because it'd be disrespectful to Ohio State after they pushed the 'health issues' narrative and help him ride off into the sunset.
Again, though, my take on Urban doesn't mesh with the way many people here view him and I totally get that. In this hypothetical, though, I'd assume they'd get pretty pissed because him backing out of retirement for a third time would seemingly legitimize a major part of the criticism he's endured, and counter the "oh but he's changed this time" narrative that surrounded him at Ohio State.
When I walked in this morning and saw the flag was at half mast I thought, "Alright, another bureaucrat ate it." but then I saw it was Li'l Sebastian. Half mast is too high. Show some damn respect.
Are you serious? The school went to no lengths to clear his public reputation. People still think Zach Smith was abusing his wife and Urban covered for him. OSU didn't fight for him after he gave his health to the program and as perfect a record as the sport has had in over 50years. Not to mention all of the good things he did to promote a no violence toward women message year in and year out. He ran a perfectly clean program and OSU didn't make that case at all to the public. He brought hundreds of millions in value to the OSU brand and they wouldn't spend a dime defending him.
As a fan he doesn't owe us any more than he has given and obv can't give any more.
It is just immaturity to care more about him coaching at another school than to care about all the young men he could help by staying in the profession.
Buckshots... in case you have amnesia.
Agreed, I do think some here have lost sight of this. I actually do have a well-placed source, and what went down in that fateful board meeting did forever damage Urban's relationship with OSU. I mean, that is of course fairly obvious, and even a Paul Finebaum can make a wild guess and be right that this was going to be Urban's last year.
Unpopular take coming here. I have no doubt that Meyer's health issue is very real and played a big part in his retirement. But I think the offseason drama and his poor treatment from the OSU administration (perceived or real) had a lot to do with it. Many on this site predicted that this was going to be Meyer's last year simply by watching his body language during the press conference this summer. No one said anything about any headaches then. And now here we are. I believe Meyer's health was the perfect pretext for him to leave OSU gracefully and graciously. That doesn't mean he wasn't really suffering from headaches and needed to get away from football. But I'm not at all convinced that Meyer will never coach again. In fact, if the Zach Smith fiasco never happens, Meyer is still our coach today. So, i will not be remotely surprised if Meyer is coaching again in 2020 or whenever. And I won't hold it against him. He's entitled to do whatever the hell he wants with whatever team he wants (with the exception of TTUN).
I totally agree that the suspension and the Smith drama was a major factor in him leaving. He was hung out to dry somewhat and his reputation took a hit. I still won't ever have any negative feelings towards him if he decides to coach again. He gave us 7 great years and is an OSU legend.
Sorry Coach, if this happens, I'm gonna have to dial my love for you back from a 9.6 to a 4.
Don't worry too much. Mark Schlabach is about a 4 as a writer/journalist.
Urban gave us 7 great years and am very thankful. I will have no ill feelings at all if he coaches again some day. Dude is a legend and we were fortunate to have him while we did.
Hindsight is, and in, 2020
Did I see on MGOBlog that he's expected to replace Harbaugh after the 2019 season?
When he got suspended, I said he was going to leave after this season and would take the USC job when it opens up. I feel pretty strongly about that still. A lot of people didn't think he'd leave after this season, I know he had health problems, but he after the school decided to suspend him, I think he decided he was going to leave.
I also don't care what he does. He was the coach here, the team did a great job and succeeded, now he's gone. I enjoyed watching the team for the most part when he coached here. If he wants to coach, he'll go out to USC and win a title or 2 there.
He was coaching next year, I'm pretty sure ol Shelly put her foot down and that was that.
I personally hope he does coach USC. The sport is better with him in it.
If we all took the name out of it and were just told that a coach would come here for 7yrs win 90% of his games and 100% against TSUN and then leave still loving the program but do it because it is stressful winning at that level all the time and eventually take another job after a needed break. I think we would all be all-in for it.
I also think we have to realize the Urban just doesn't fit the mold of every other CFB coach. #1 he wins waaaayyy more. #2 to pull that off there is a cost... a short tenure because of the stress. I hope he gets to keep getting to do what he loves. I think it is also really hard for him to not do what he loves so I expect, and hope, he coaches again.
Plus if he is at USC there is still a chance he can keep beating Michigan in the rose bowl... and the pain of that for TSUN fans would be so, so, so agonizing. It would be beautiful.
Good weather, easier recruiting, less travel, no stress of ruining the legacy at the school you care most about... by all means Urban do it!
Thanks for sharing, Urb.
He said he believed he would not come back...he also said he believed he would be back for the 2019 season. However, I think his love for Ohio State will outweigh his love for coaching. I THINK he is going to be busy with Ohio State so, hopefully he will be content. I do say he has a loop hole by saying he believes he will not coach again. I hope Im not reading to much in his statements. I am happy with Day so...Go Bucks!!!
JFC. You gotta quit paying attention to the damn media. Wow.
Everything Urban said towards the end of the season and his choice of language made it obvious he probably wasn't sticking around long. That proved correct. Everything he's said about not coaching again and his choice of language makes it obvious he wants to coach again. Now maybe Shelly can convince him not to, as it's clear she doesn't want to see Urban coach again. But he doesn't want to rule it out and this is what the guy does. It's his passion.
I expect to see him at a USC or FSU or LSU or Auburn in a year or two. I will not care. I think it was time for a change at OSU. Urban had a hell of a run but some cracks were forming and its frankly close to impossible to keep a program perennially in the top 5 for ten years. Saban is not normal. I'm excited OSU knew they had found the right successor and made the move. Urban had an incredible run here but the timing feels right.
I think Shelley will allow him to go out west. Great weather and a much easier conference to win. Built in recruiting as well. Still, I don't see it happening.
Guys, I don’t log in here much, but I think I have a good perspective here
if u looked at urban after his press conference where he was suspended, he shut up because he loves south, but he definitely felt like he got thrown under the bus, ive been in in similar situations where I knew I was right and also knew there was no point in arguing.
im not urban, but I’ve held both of the situations I’ve been in like that with me all my life.
Never forgave it. And to be honest, I believe urban would be right if he held a grudge for being the sacrificial lamb.
I don’t think it will stop his love for sound if he goes somewhere else, but if I got labeled a wife beater, I’d be jaded as fuck.
i hated some professors at osu, and let’s be honest, we all did. Didn’t make me hate osu. I just would choose not to be around that professor. I’ve also quit great jobs because I hated my boss.
I hope everyone who graduates from osu has the same ability to quit his job when he’s blamed for something he never did.
i honestly think urbs was done wrong, and if he goes to usc, I’ll wish him the best, as long as he’s not playing us. The guy was quality.
Bitches get stitches, and by bitches I mean the Harvard of the north
For some reason osu keeps getting spell checked to sound, my bad guys
Fight On Urban, FIGHT ON!!!
What we can't do in the air we'll do on the ground.
Don't think he'll coach again. He'll help Day build OSU into a dynasty.
I'm not sold that he's done coaching, but I really have no idea. I truly believe that Urban has the right to do whatever he wants. That said, it would hurt a little bit if he went anywhere else. I get that some of the joy was taken out of working for OSU over the summer when the administration wouldn't stick up for him while the national (and even some local) media was trashing him. But he IS an Ohioan, born and bred, and let the fans know this at every turn. It would feel disingenuous if he turned around and started coaching elsewhere. Does that make me the jilted lover? I guess it does, but realizing this isn't going to change the way I would feel. Again, he has the right, regardless of his accomplishments here, to go do whatever he wants. I guess I'm just hoping that he stays with OSU in the Athletic Department and helps continue to grow the beast that is Ohio State Football.
"We gotta go win this next game and make the State of Ohio proud!"-UFM
I think Urban's future will be to become A D at OSU sooner than later. He might be the next Barry Alvarez. Also, I had a discussion recently with my doctor as I was taking my annual physical. He is an OSU grad as well. I asked him to explain if he could about the severity of the brain cyst that Urban has./had. He said that he could never have another operation on the cyst again because it would be impossible to fully recover. His headaches are brought on by stress and he has to learn to live a less stressful life. Has anybody noticed how Urban looks much better now than he did at his press conferences during the season? Sometimes we all have to make decisions we really do not want to make. We were blessed having him. Now, it is time to move on and embrace the next great coach in OSU history! GO BUCKS!
I would t be shocked if he took a couple years away and then came back and replaced Day if he leaves. Pending Drake and company have moved on.
Get use to the "Urb is the leading candidate for (fill in the name of the school)" for the next 15 years or until it actually happens. Got a feeling that Shelly will have a lot to say about this.
I could definitely see Urban coaching somewhere else in the next few years, be it USC or Notre Dame or another high-profile job. I don't believe for a second he's done coaching, not at his age.
"In America, anyone can become president. That's the problem." George Carlin
Every school will kick the tires on Urban because why wouldn't you he's the GOAT. I don't think he would have taken the assistant AD job here if he was going to come back in to coaching. Players have come out and said he had mentioned retiring back in like 14 and 15 so I think his health has been an issue for awhile. His current position allows him to still be somewhat involved with the football program but not near the stress level of being HC. Woody faced plenty of adversity while being here and didn't hold a grudge against the university, I think Urban is right where he wants to be he loves the great state of OHIO.
I guess I take a slightly different and possibly simpler approach to this one. Don't overcomplicate it:
Urban loves a project. He thrives at "building" more so than "sustaining". It's a different approach and I totally understand it. If his health permits...and there is a challenging project to be undertaken...Do your thing dude; Thanks for your service here!
This is more than a "rumor," and I think it will happen. With that being said, I will not begrudge him. He LIFTED us to heights though unimaginable. He NEVER LOST to that one team! He got us ANOTHER NATTY!
It will not go well for his "reputation," but I do not think it will stop him. The Zach Smith thing probably cut at least 3 years off what we could of had Urban for. It is disappointing, but DAY is our man now~!
Here is the thing, I don't think Urban and Shelly would love living in LA. WAY more media pressure and scrutiny, more 'Hollywood' style recruits vs Midwest and southern grinders. The cost of living is insane, like they'd have to pay him about 10mil a year to be equal to what he made at OSU, plus he won't have the autonomy he had at FLA and OSU, there will be way more donor/alum involvement etc.
Urban is only 54 he wants to coach again go for it. Thanks for everything coach
Why the hell would he leave OSU to go to USC? There is nothing about that which makes sense.
I personally think he left Ohio St. mainly because of his health issues. Although I don't think he left Florida sorely on health issues. If he can get his headaches under control I suppose there is a chance he could get back into coaching. Don't forget USC is a blue blood of college football just like OSU.
USC was a blue blood.
I don't see how you leave your dream job and then take a job across the country at a school with which you have no affiliation.
I don't believe he'll do it. I also don't think he'll ever go to ND, since Brian Kelly supposedly butts heads with the Administration on recruits, etc.
I don't think that's his intent or plan. I think USC is clearly going to make a run at him though. Why else haven't they fired Helton? They're just using him while time passes and it's at least plausible Urban would listen to an offer. They know Urban can't do shit this year.
That is quite a conspiracy theory. There are plenty of high grade coaches they could talk to.
Urban has zero ties to USC and I don't see why he would take a job halfway across the country when he just left his dream job.
The first few posts in this thread were very positive, so I had a bad feeling I was going to be the only negative person in this thread. Glad I'm not lol.
I hate USC, and I hate Notre Dame. Why would I root for Meyer if he was coaching either of them? I root for OSU and OSU only. The same reason I didn't root for Burrow at LSU. I didn't root against him, but when you move to a different college team, whether you're an ex-OSU coach or player, I no longer have a rooting interest in you. The same would be the case with Meyer, as much as I have appreciated and enjoyed him as an OSU coach.
Might as well get use to this. Anytime a major job comes open in the future Urban's name will be all over it. The media, as they typically do, will take the lazy approach and just report speculation instead of actually finding facts and reporting them. USC is just the first major program that will come available. Urban has no ties to the program and has never expressed a desire to coach there. So other than him being Urban Meyer and them being USC why would any reporter think Urban is going there?
Go for two only because you can't go for three
I knew with recycling day being yesterday it wasn't just for my plastic and cardboard waste.
If he decides to coach again, that's his decision, it doesn't really matter all that much what the fan base thinks.
Will it be a bit of a bitter pill to swallow? Yeah, maybe, but if the guy ends up missing coaching that much, can you blame him?
Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.
Will. Not. Happen. Ever.
If he does end up going somewhere else, either all that "I'm a Buckeye for Life, Ohio guy, dream job, love this state, it's my home" stuff is complete Bullshit OR He was forced out of Ohio State and this was a soft exit strategy OR the Bullshit at the start of Fall Camp was enough to sour him on the leadership of OSU. Sorry but if he coaches somewhere else he is dead to me unless it's one of the 2nd 2 reasons and that comes out.
"I don't want to be around average, why be around average!" -UFM
I don't blame him. Some people are competitive. Some times you need a break too. Drake threw him under the bus so if goes on to coach again so be it.
IF Urban ever coaches again it sure as hell isn't going to be a West Coast school, even as one as prestigious as USC. ND is the only team I can see him coming out of retirement for.
I don't think he coaches again. I think he ends up finding meaning as an associate athletic director at tOSU. Still working with young people, still coaching coaches, less headaches and still gets to be close to football.
Urban and Tate reunited at USC, wouldn't that be some shit
I have said it before (and was downvoted into oblivion) but I think he will coach again. However, I think their are only two places he would consider 1) tOSU 2) ND
I also said the scandal influenced his decision to leave (also downvoted) but since Urban himself has said that everyone is acting like they knew that all along.
He is 54, he will get the itch before he turns 60 I believe he will coach again before he turns 60. The idea that he could be the first coach to win a NC at three different schools has to appeal to him.
Urban is the coach in waiting for when Day leaves or gets ran out of town
Buckeye born and last stop is at TOSU
The only reason that Urban's name comes up with USC is because Helton is on thin ice and Swann needs to make something happen to turn them around from going further into oblivion. Urbs is the only name out there that COULD turn them around. But here's the thing,
First this isn't Ohio State, his dream job, he would have a few stressful years turning that shit program around. Why would he subject himself to that? Why would Shelley sign on for that? Why go and deal with one of the most arrogant fan bases that have a distorted view of reality. USC has lost a lot of shine after Pete Carroll, Reggie Bush, etc.
Second- I don't think he would risk ruining his legacy by rolling the dice on USC and at the same time taking his guys from tOSU and possibly do damage to us. I mean seriously? Why would he literally throw away all good will in a state he and his family are from.
Third- there is only one job I think he would consider taking and that is UC Bearkats. It's his alma mater and his son plays baseball there. If Fickell gets a bigger job next year I could see Urbs stepping in to keep them rolling for a couple of years while they try and find a more permanent guy.
sometimes logic needs to take over and rolling the dice on a complete unknown at the risk of pissing off his family, shelley, and tarnishing his legacy (which is pretty freaking awesome on the field) just doesn't make sense to me.
"it matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul.