OSU #4 in Too-Early Top 25

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BrutusB's picture

Unsurprisingly, Clemson and Bama are the top two. UGA is at three - but given that they’re bringing back their QB and head coach and we’re not I can’t really muster up outrage. ND rounds out the top five. 

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LongIslandBuckeye's picture

Soft non conference?? Cincy did go 11-2 this past season right? 

Espn at it again

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gobucks5413's picture

Yes it is soft. When Cincinnati is the headliner, it is absolutely soft. It wont be an easy game, but stop with the ESPN stuff. We need to win em all next year, and the non con shouldnt trip us up.

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WoullyBear's picture

But the University of Cincinnati might have the best football team in Cincinnati...#SorryBunglesFans

If Ann Arbor is a whore, what's Harbaugh for going back to her?

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BrutusB's picture

Our OOC schedule sucks if we’re being honest. But I’m actuslly ok with that this year. Let Day and Tate/Fields get experience. 

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Mostly Gray's picture

Well we all cannot schedule the Citadel.

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PhillyNut's picture

Bama has Duke, Western Carolina, New Mexico State, and Southern Mississippi.  A Murders Row if I ever saw one. Clemson has Texas A&M, Wofford,Charlotte, and South Carolina.  Better but still has some real gimmies, especially with how weak the ACC is. 

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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Byaaaahhh's picture

Bama has Duke, Western Carolina, New Mexico State, and Southern Mississippi.  A Murders Row if I ever saw one. 

Yeah, and to everyone's utter shock, Mark Schlabach neglected to mention that in Bama's writeup. 

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QuadCitiesBuckeye's picture

Bama has Duke

It's adorable when basketball schools like Duke and Michigan think they can play football

Shandy is not beer

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logamaniac's picture

Exactly.  Also the b1g is strange oftentimes in that good teams have shitty seasons and then bad teams have good seasons seemingly out of nowhere.  Also those good teams can quickly flip a follow up to a bad season with an absolutely great one.  

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bd2999's picture

Not really, the ooc is soft. It does not mean the game will be easy but they are not from a power 5 and are at best a good team. It will be more of a Cincy playing out of their minds to keep in the game than anything else.

It has nothing to do with ESPN, they are right.

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stuckupnorth's picture

Yes it is soft. Cincinnati is not tough. If that is what they are hanging their hat on. I get it. Luke F. Is the coach and he’s from OSU that automatically makes them better. Factor in Cincinnati is in the state of Ohio and that makes them NFL caliber. A 11-2 school from a lower tier conference is not impressive. Usually OSU schedules pretty good. I know teams back out however this year is not one to puff out chest. Also Clemson and Alabama ain’t going anywhere. We can cry at we want. It just makes our fan base look spoiled and jealous. Georgia has recruited phenomenally the last couple years and they too deserve a spot at the table. There is no ESPN conspiracy. That is an uninformed cop out. Those top four teams are right. Based on theoretical teams that haven’t competed in spring practice. Those are on paper teams. It’s not an exact science. However who do you think based on estimated talent returning from teams should be in the top 5? What would you say are there respected strengths as to putting them there.

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RunEddieRun1983's picture

UC is going to scrap with us, but make no mistake, by the mid-way point of the 3rd that game won't be close. Our OOC isn't great, so we're going to have to count on some tests in the conference along the way to get to the final 4.

Urban Meyer left an incredible legacy. 12/4/18 Ryan Day begins his.

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Hovenaut's picture

"Soft non conference schedule..."

Choice descriptive, WWL.

I had to run away high, so I wouldn't come home low...

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outdoorbuckeye's picture

Well it's not like we have an elite team like Citadel on our schedule.

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PhillyNut's picture

Purdue, no explanation.  At least Iowa is a decent team. 8-5 in 2017 with one loss being by 2 points to Penn State and 9-4 this past year including a bowl win over another vaunted SEC team

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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buckguyfan1's picture

See you in the Big Easy...

Simplify...

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Buckeye.383's picture

I really hope so for obvious reasons, but also because it is such a fun town/venue. I attended the Sugar Bowl against Arkansas and I am not sure I have had more fun "tailgating" anywhere else. Something about hanging out on Bourbon Street all day with thousands of Buckeyes and then walking to the Superdome. 

Born, raised, educated, and will die a Buckeye ~ BuckeyeNation

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Worthington Buck's picture

It's not weak.

Our "Out of conference" is either @ Northwestern / @ Nebraska (ie the extra game Bama/Clemson doesn't play), UC who went 11-2, FAU (everyone's darling last winter), Miami (OH).

Clemson has Texas A&M / South Carolina / Charlotte / Wofford

Bama has Duke / New Mexico St. / Southern Miss / Western Carolina

Oklahoma has the 9th Big 12 game / UCLA (lost to Cincy) / Houston / South Dakota

Outside of A&M potentially being way better than any of Northwestern / Nebraska / Wisconsin (potentially being a key word there), I don't see how we have an easier "OOC" schedule than any other top team.

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Go740Bucks's picture

Not to mention, they absolutely deserve a "soft" ooc schedule when your conference schedules you to play Penn State and TTUN back to back...

"The future is bright at Ohio State" - UFM

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stuckupnorth's picture

It’s funny we always justify OSU schedule. Whether it’s tough. We point to that. When it’s not we point to conference. OSU just doesn’t do wrong. When they beat a cupcake UNLv or Tulane. Fans say they are the best 3-7 5-5 whatever team to ever exist, and that no one wants to play that school because of how tough they are. Regardless of them being sub .500. 

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BrutusB's picture

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Purdue was the best 6-7 team in history.

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stuckupnorth's picture

Lol, I know right. People’s justification are like anything I’ve ever seen. 

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Go740Bucks's picture

I am not justifying anything. This upcoming year is a soft out of conference schedule, and I could not care less to be honest. Other big programs do the same, go undefeated, and make the playoffs. If Ohio State takes care of business, doesn't lose a game, they will be in the playoff. The only thing I am peeved about is the back to back scheduling of Penn State and Michigan, which i believe happens again in a few seasons. The B1G needs to be smarter about this, considering Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and Mich St run the east. 

"The future is bright at Ohio State" - UFM

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BrutusB's picture

It’s weak because we don’t have a P5 team. TAMU and Duke are both much better than Cincy. 

But as as I said above, that’s fine for this year since we need to get experience for some key pieces. 

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Worthington Buck's picture

You are missing the point.  We do have a P5 team.  One of @ Nebraska / Wisconsin / @ Northwestern.  And we don't play a FCS team, which Bama / Clemson / Oklahoma / Georgia all do.

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BrutusB's picture

If we're just pointing to a random game and saying it's our 'extra' 9th game, why not count 1-11 Rutgers?

If you're only looking at cross-division games, pointing to 4-8 Nebraska doesn't really help your case.

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Worthington Buck's picture

Nebraska will almost surely be better than 4-8 next year.  And Rutgers isn't a cross division game.  The SEC avoids having Bama play Georgia / Florida and Clemson play Virginia Tech / Miami.  The B1G schedules OSU to play at least one of Wisconsin / Nebraska every year.

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stuckupnorth's picture

It’s a great point, however it diminished OSU so it will not be counted. Because OSU can get credit for .500 school that they should beat by 75 conference or not. However Bama and Clemson can not. 

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TroyBuckeyeFan22's picture

Duke was not better than UC this year. UC lost to Temple on the road in overtime and UCF. Duke lost at home by 52 points to Wake Forest. 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

I think Georgia takes a step back this year and you see Florida step up. 

I would go Clemson, Bama, OSU, Texas, Georgia, LSU

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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TkeBuck's picture

clemson playing wofford and charlotte...at home!...is very challenging indeed. wtf is wrong with espn hitting tosu with 'soft schedule' but not calling out these  southern teams?

klusewski

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Worthington Buck's picture

They are business partners with the SEC / ACC, bottom line.  It's time people recognize ESPN for what it is, a propaganda machine in bed with two of the conferences.

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BrutusB's picture

You realize ESPN pays the Big Ten billions of dollars too, right? 

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BucksHave7's picture

You dont think the Terriers have a chance?

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ApollosGYRO's picture

Love how we get raked over the coals for our OOC schedule but when you look at Clemson and Bama's OOC schedule they play a way softer schedule

I hope the ratings last night were terrible!!

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BrutusB's picture

Clemson plays TAMU.  That's actually pretty good as far as OOC games go.  And they play SCar every year (not too great, but still P5).

I will agree that I have no interest in watching Bama play Duke.

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ApollosGYRO's picture

Agreed! Our OOC schedule is not great and I want it changed but they need to start pointing the finger at all of the conferences.

Remember how fun opening weekend was in 2016?

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BucksHave7's picture

But ESPN calls out ND playing at Duke!!!  

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

Bama and Clemson play nobody really out of conference. OSU has a softer than normal because the TCU moving the game to jerry world. We were to have hosted them

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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bd2999's picture

I am not even sure it matters much. A win over a ranked TCU helps or in general, but it is not like playing nobody hurt many of the playoff teams this past year. Win the ooc games by a fair bit and then win the rest of them.

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bd2999's picture

There are a fair number of young and new faces that will be on the team next year. It really depends on how they come together. The veteran WR room will be down to Mack and Victor (I think) and then talented guys with less game experience and young OL and QB (pending on who it is).

Have to wait and see but the ooc is not good. The only way they make a run next year is if they win them all. Seems that way anyway though. Cinnci could be a tough game but it is unlikely they will be ranked. It would be good for OSU if they end up that way but I am skeptical that they will be in the end.

I think it is pretty soft in terms of how the committee will look at it, but that changes from year to year. Sure as heck did not hurt teams last year.

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Worthington Buck's picture

The committee decides their top 4 then uses the rest of the rankings to justify how they got there.  If we do enough on the field to show we belong, expect some of the fringe teams to get a bump up into the rankings.  If we sleepwalk through the year and leave it up to the beauty pageant, expect the bottom of the rankings to justify the decision.  The placement of things like Iowa St vs Iowa, Northwestern vs Texas, etc showed that's the case this year.

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Losu1's picture

Way too early. Arnette and Sheffield likely gone 

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

That is actually a positive for OSU. Guys behind them are better

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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BucksHave7's picture

I think you hit the nail on the head in how awesome our D will be next year.

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Losu1's picture

Desmond Howard has reviewed all the teams and picks Michigan to win it all

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BucksHave7's picture

TTUN at #11?  Comical given  finished #14 this year and loses alot on O and D next year.  No way would next years TTUN beat this years team.

PSU at #17?  About right, maybe optimistic.  Would PSU next year without McSorley and Sanders beat this years 4 loss team?  Unlikely.   Plus at tOSU, at Iowa and at Sparty.

ND at #5?   Possibly, but wont make the plalyoff, given easy schedule and will get blown out at Georgia 3rd game of year (dropping out of top 10), at TTUN later in year.  Note too replacing both a punter and a kicker.

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BrutusB's picture

I forgot ND plays UGA this year.  That should be a top 5 matchup in Week 3.  Pretty excited about that.

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PhillyNut's picture

Vegas has us tied for third with Georgia on odds for winning the CFP.

I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan!

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actionstanleyjackson's picture

If anything...last showed that you play your young kids. No more saving them. Get them on the field...Wilson, Harrision, Williamson, Crowley...let them play. 

Stay golden, Ponyboy.

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armybuckinva's picture

I'm not worried about having weaker non-conference for the simple fact that our conference schedule is loaded.

Nebraska, Sparty, Northwestern and Wisconsin before a bye week.  All of those teams are potential top 25 teams.  Then Maryland, Rutgers, PSU, and M.  I know not all of those teams can make it to the end of the season ranked, but I believe 7 of the 8 have chances.

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Go740Bucks's picture

Nebraska and Sparty back to back, and Penn St and Mich back to back. 

"The future is bright at Ohio State" - UFM

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BucksHave7's picture

We get PSU in the shoe and PSU wont be better next year than this year. 

Thank goodness TTUN should have severe drop off next year.  Loses alot.

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armybuckinva's picture

We have had to put together two fourth quarter comebacks to beat PSU the last two seasons.  They lose McSorely which will help, but they will still be tough.

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BucksHave7's picture

And PSU loses Myles Sanders plus 2 unexpected OL (Bates and McGovern) declared to leave early last week.  And we get PSU in the shoe. 

PSU loses 5 games next year. I base a team on if it would beat this years team, I say no way, plus PSU has Iowa and Sparty on the road. 

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armybuckinva's picture

Very possible.  I think McSorely will be hard to replace.  Let's say they finish 8-4, that would still put them somewhere between 20-30 in the rankings depending on who those 4 loses are to.

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BrutusB's picture

Nebraska and Sparty both suck though. 

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armybuckinva's picture

Nebraska turned the corner at the end of last season and I expect them to keep that going in 2019 and I will never underestimate a Dantonio led Michigan State team..........ever.

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BucksHave7's picture

We have a favorable schedule next year.  Especially considering we are viewed by ESPN at #3. 

An undefeated B10 champ wont be left out of the playoffs. Especially this year, since ND is gonna get blown out by GA. 

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armybuckinva's picture

I'm not saying OSU can't go undefeated, but I think the middle of the pack teams take a step forward.  I have three games pegged as big games: @Nebraska, @Northwestern, @M

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Worthington Buck's picture

But I will always underestimate a Bollman led offense.

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armybuckinva's picture

This is true.  First team to 10 points wins.

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armybuckinva's picture

Bet they make that Nebraska game a night time event too.

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BucksHave7's picture

I would hope so.    Silver Bullets are back!

We get Miami OH in the shoe week before and Huskers at IL week before.  Thats in our favor.

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BucksHave7's picture

I know it might not hold w Arnette and Shefield, but I didnt realize we are returning 10 starters on Defense. WOW. 

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BrutusB's picture

That may or may not be a good thing given how the defense looked at times. 

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BucksHave7's picture

Right. 

Returning 10 starters on the defense of the #3 ranked team in the country for 2018 isnt a good thing.

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BrutusB's picture

We were #3 because of our offense. S&P had our offense at 3 and our defense at 34.

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BucksHave7's picture

Hence Alex Grinch, Bill Davis and Greg Schiano are all gone.  10 returning starters and awesome 4 year recruiting classes. 

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westy81585's picture

I wouldn't read ESPN's garbage if they paid me and said Ohio State was the best thing of all time.  

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IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY's picture

TCU backing out of the home-and-home hurts our schedule for 2019. I can just see the narrative now. "Does 12-0 OSU belong in the playoffs with such a weak schedule?" while 4-loss SEC teams are strongly considered.

"You're the patron saint of the totally effed" - Hot Tub Time Machine

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BucksHave7's picture

12-0 and being in the playoffs.  You talking about ND now?

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Triv's picture

Regardless of our OOC schedule, there is a realistic possibility we end the season with 5 games vs CFP top 25 teams, more than anybody in the playoffs played this year.

UC (ended this year at 24)
@Nebraska (I firmly believe Nebraska will be 9-3, at worst 8-4 next season. Adrian Martinez is legit and Frost has them buying in)
@NW (21 to end this year)
Michigan State (This year was a down year, so will see with them)
Wisconsin (See Michigan State)
Penn State (17 to end the year)
Michigan (14 to end the year)

Obviously its unlikely all 7 are ranked, but its not out of the question for 5 of those teams to end the year in the top 25

Sorry Urban, Woody is still my favorite

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BucksHave7's picture

Nice work. Makes sense to me.  Also we are view as #4 now, so as of today, we are in the playoff!

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BUInvent's picture

Not going to lie. Our out of conference schedule is weak. However, TCU did back out on us last year and Bama's schedule is just as soft if not softer. I hope ESPN criticizes Bama's schedule just as much as ours.

Go Bucks

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osu992's picture

SEC leads with 7, including 5 in the top 10. Big Ten has 6, but only 1 in the top 10. SEC will shake out, but I don't see another Big 10 team that would deserve to be in the top 10 with the way things are falling apart in tsun, with Penn St. needing a QB.

New Day for OSU. Same noon for TTUN.

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BucksHave7's picture

PSU needs 2 OL that left early for the draft and a new RB (as Sanders left early too).   

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hoosierdaddy's picture

The OOC is bad,Cincy had 11 wins last year with one of the youngest teams in FBS. I will bet Cincy at least covers next year. Luke will have them ready, it will tell what the Ryan Day era will be like.

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colo_buckeye's picture

I really don't care about OOC, just win them, doesn't matter at all and that has been proven.  We are simply at win all your games or fall subject to the subjectivity of he who must not be named and cross your fingers (I know here comes the "Don't lose by 30 to 6-7 purdont").  The bias is real and I think this year proved it.

God > Family > Buckeyes football

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ohiopanda's picture

OOC schedules don’t matter anymore. We lose one game in the fashion we usually do anymore, we’re out. 

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